Im a Fascist ask me stuff

I was unaware of this word filter lol

Thats not a wordfilter? notsocialism

How so? Your freedoms are curtailed by whoever controls the police/military.

fascism is a state which has tenants of nationalism close to heart while still looking out for the working people through corporation of the economy
while having workers interests at heart it rejects most marxist concepts like "class warfare" in favor of encouraging cooperation between classes with nationalism and faith

i believe it is a derivative of fascism while obviously different such as in the cases of the views on race and economics

proof the italian fascists did?

so almost all forms of goverment except anarchism?
its called the social contract eithe people have a bit of freedom and a bit of security or all of one and none of the other

>an ideology that openly claims that the people are obligated to serve the interests of the state not the other way around

Fascism is the biggest bootlicker ideology there is. At least Nazis see the state as a means to an end rather than an end in and of itself.

How do you reconcile your love for Mussolini with the massive fuckups he made. Notably, wasting almost half his military ordinance in the Spanish civil war, the war in Ethiopia, the battle of Taranto, and the Quota 90

this is from "Europe Between the Wars" by Martin Kitchen
want more?

well that shows little understanding of fascism t b h
only against people actively attempt to harm and subvert the nation
once enacted corporatism would allow for workers election of representatives
ive never understood this one
if a goverment fucks up then it will either be voted out couped or overthrown

simple
he was good at domestic policy
and shit at foreign policy
joining ww2 was one of the worst decisions in military history t b h

Pls tell me you are not Italian

i am

fascism in two pics

Aside from you just straight up making shit up in this post, you still have yet to address the central tenant of fascism;

All within the state, nothing outside the state, no one against the state.

How can you unironically think that an ideology that actively calls for the submission of all personal individuality and freedom to an abstract political entity is an ideology of the people?

Do you like isreal and Zionism as a concept?

The Italian experience in Spain is hilarious.

The Republic hadn't won a single battle until the Italians showed up, at which point they promptly routed them and the CTV became the laughingstock of the Nationalist forces.

At one point Franco had to request use of Italian troops be severely curtailed.

They were so bad their presence was actually a net detriment to the people they were there to help.

That fascism has become associated with military prowess and ruthless efficiency is downright hysterical.

its none of my business what happens in the mid-east t b h

Allora sei un coglione

What is the obsession with aesthetics? Who gives a fuck if someone wants a nose ring, why is that some breach of deceny?

Thoughts on Mussolini's gay island? LGBT people in general? What religion and thoughts on faith?

typical lefty/pol/ answers

go ask the tankies
Also because the individual is not important, the progress of mankind is important and the only system for that is fascism.

not OP btw

that thread was a joke, how can you even use it, especially with such a name

Another complete joke right here!

In fairness Mussolini did tell the Germans Italy would be ready for war in 1943 at the earliest.

answer , I provided proof in
here is some more proof

I wrote Nat-Socialism
Test: NutSacialism

There you go with your bbc memes

i dont mind people being homosexual as long as the person dosent act destructive to society

Because anyone that offends someone else or causes feelings of difference is attacking the fascist society, where the state dictates every level of life. When everyone is the same social order is maintained, in theory.

a lot of it is emotional, people don't have to think about retards if you kill them at birth, so it's a society that has removed all such differences. you don't have to see something different and struggle to accept it, you just kill it.

Define "acting destructively to society"
Spooked worldviews always rely on relative cocnepts

1) Not an answer to most of the questions
2) define "destructive to society"; should they be allowed to raise adoptive kids ect.

Christ, this sounds impotent as fuck. The state basically says "pls don't hurt my fragile sensibilities", and if you step out of line you it enacts violence upon you. Just like an abusive father appears to be weak and impotent after he beats his kids, so too does the state after it beats it's citizens.

Wait…the autistic stalinist posting on Holla Forums is italian!? Are you really italian or just an american LARPer who learned italian with his great grandmother?

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just look at pride parades

no thats destructive to society
ahh it was a bit overboard
there should be a state religion
people who how different religious views or views on religion are O.K as long as it dosent cause the person to act destructive to society

Okay, you have a nation like Singapore: what should be the state religion?

Organizing and participating in gay pride parades which are an embarassement promoting mental retardation.
I don't care about homosexual either. I've some, i was even friends with them, i don't seeing them holding hands or kissing and hugging.
But those useless cunts that go on gay pride they should be fucking sent to live in a gulag. Completely useless fags…either they could learn how to become decent human beings through hard work or they would fucking starve to death for all i care.

Not an answer
Define destructive

If you want to limit people's freedom, you should be exact.

Is this why you're a Fascist? Because even a retard like you can feel entitled to speculate on who should live and who shouldn't?
A few days ago I've seen a crazy hobo screaming that with his heroin he could kill hundreds of people, whenever he wants. You're like that hobo: barely coherent, completely uneducated, fundamentally evil, and generally talentless.

Mi sono dimenticato di aggiungere che gente come te andrebbe appesa per i pollici.

nice mexican flag

Wew, you could leave this bit of naive moralism out and the post would be exactly the same. His ideas lead to shitty things happening, that doesn't make them evil.

So you define being destructive to society as "organizing and participating in gay pride parades which are an embarassement promoting mental retardation"?

What "mental retardation"?

nudity pornography pedophilia etc all the things that increase as homosexuality become more flaunted in society

L'altro user aveva ragione: la gente crede nel fascismo perchè sente la propaganda, ma non studia i fatti che la circondavano. Se lo facessero vedrebbero i fascisti per quello che sono, ovvero dei pirla.
The other user was right: people believe in fascism only because they read the propaganda but they never study the real history behind it. Had they done it they would see fascists for what they really are: dorks.

Not reading books promotes mental retardation. You are worse than a homosexual.

If what he is proposing is not evil, then nothing is. Stop justifying moral bankruptcy. If someone wants to deprive someone else of their human rights on the basis of bigotry, call them out for what they are: frustrated people with evil desires.

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Moral arguments are one of the weakest kinds.

Precisely.
I'm not justifying moral bankruptcy, if someone has beliefs that have shitty consequences then their beliefs should be questioned, mocked, and discouraged. But when you call someone "evil" that stops all possible dialog and precludes the possibility of ever understanding why the person holds the beliefs that they do.

have you ever participed on a fascist protest?

what is your personal view about race?

Your philosophical ignorance is showing, especially considering the fact that you seem to be not aware of what philosophical moral discourse actually is.

Wow kid, take that Stirner easy.

I've just realized that you're parroting Harris. kek, as your kind would say.

no genuine fascist movement exists in the region i live in
its important to maintain an ethnic/racial majority in ones country but theres is no need for a complete "pure" ethno state i m o

do you think that a black adopted by a white family that lives in a white community can be considered like a white?

I'm more of a Nietzschean tbh.
inb4 "hurr durr Nietzsche was a evil racist moral relativist who hated Jews"
I'm parroting who? Honestly user, "evil" is just a term you can use to irrationally dismiss someone without first trying to understand them. If right-wingers are complaining about being dismissed without having their beliefs challenged then maybe you should listen to them.

Do you accept eugenics? Let's say that in this national eugenic program you're one of the guys that go under the needle: would you still support it?

Do you advocate for free speech?

no

well he certainly cant be considered ethnically or racially white but he can adopt enough of the dominant culture of the nation he lived to fit in
now if a large enclave of african people formed that would be a issue

well ive got to go

Respond to this , coward.

i dont give a shit about "muh ebil state" because ive matured to the point where i know some authority is needed in life and a state is needed to preserve society

Then we can talk about evil. If on the ground of your Nietzscheian heritage you refuse to do so, then you have basically renounced to discuss anything (and this is due to the fact that you're probably trying to reject every prejudice, but the one of superiority truth).

In a Nietzscheian framework every term is used irrationally. There is no metaphysical foundation: what we're saying do not refer to trascendental ideas (or at least this is what Nietzsche thought).
So, is this what you're trying to do? Dismiss every possible discourse because we can't prove virtually nothing?

The guy you're talking about is a fascist, and I'm an italian who has lived around fascists for his entire life. He is not a new radical type of readtionary, he's a fascist in the same sense his grandpas or old people he saw in bars were.
Secondly, I have listened to his argument. I have used to the word "evil" in a direct response to what he wrote. Do you think that no proposal can be considered obscene? Should I try to reason with the fascist guy with absolutely no arguments (as this thread as shownes you: he is not even educated on his own ideology ffs) who also wants to segregate human beings on the account that he does not like looking at them? This guy wants to suppress the rights of homosexual people cause of fucking pride parades, and you still think that I have not grasped the nuance of this old, stereotypical argument we've all heard hundreds of times?

Wew, either argue why the term "evil" is useful for achieving the outcomes you want or fuck off. I'm not even arguing about Nietzsche here, you just chose to latch onto that because you had nothing else to back you up.
lolno, Nietzsche didn't think that you should elevate truth above all else, that's a pathetic misreading of him.
Wew, love too end a quote mid-sentence to make it seem like someone's saying something they didn't say.

That's what you all say. The Quota 90 was domestic policy though and it was total shit.

He's an Italian. I remember when he found out I was an Italian posting under the Yugo flag he brought up Le Foibe. That's something the average American LARPer probably wouldn't know anything about.

What does one things has to do with the other? Homosexual people can have their rights. They have them already at least in my country. Although the communist party voted against the right for homosexuals to adopt children, the radical centrists, the cosmopolite liberal party and hip right wingers were more than enough for that law be approved in the parliament.

People who participate in pride parades are promoting mental retardation, imported from the leading factory of shit in the planet: the USA.
They promote corruption, lavish lifestyles, going to discos and listen to fucking Madonna and Lady Gaga, they promote hollywood tv shows who have no artistic value whatsoever. This is garbage, these behaviors have no room in a society that must be together through thick and thin.

Except my argument wasn't "muh ebil state". I was arguing that the state fills a patriarchal role under fascism, and that violently enforcing your will directly robs the fascist leader of the ability to fill that patriarchal role.

I know you're not arguing about Nietzsche, since you don't actually know how to interpret it. The outcome of a task can be "What is evil?". Read Wittengstein's PI.

You've misread. That sentence means: you're trying to reject prejudices, but you have not rejected truth. Proof of that: you reject moral arguments because they do not fit your epistemological criterias, while also not realizjng that virtually nothing does. Even the outcomes of an action will just be the ground for philosophical and moral contempletation. As Nietzsche said
And then

That's how you've started, I've just pointed out that from your point of view there is no such thing as an attribute called rational, yet you're willing to single this specific type of discourse out, while not mentioning that you would apply this attribute (irrational) to every other possible discourse.

Das rude user. Yes I'm Italian, seriously with all the anti-american shitposting I do how could you have thought that I was American?

1. how does fascism come around? is there a revolution or is a government voted in?
2. how do you make sure that fascism remains in support of the people?
3. your personal economic policy?
4. is there a baseline between fascists for what is degenerate? like would gays or trannies be immediately lynched?
5. im pretty sure race isnt a huge facet to fascism, but more so nationality (especially italian fascism). With this in mind what's your opinion on the refugee crisis in europe rn?
6.

forget 6 its a typo

The right has no theory

HAHAHAH, Is always a farce. Like in Italy the march of rome. It's all about asthetics. Fascists were already backed by the kind

Why is term "evil" useful in leftist discourse? That's the question I asked and you still haven't answered it.
Yeah, this is a total misreading. I reject absolute truth, but subjective truth is perfectly valid if you can justify it rationally. It's the "justify it rationally" bit that gives it authority.
Wew, love too imply that Nietzsche was a nihilist
This is a misreading of Nietzsche. He wasn't an irrationalist, you dolt.

Nice spook, faggot.

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Do you have a single fact to back that up?

This is enough for me to know that either you have not actually read his writings or you don't have the nuance necessary to understand what Nietzsche's prescription are. To quote him, in his Introduction to his Case Contra Wagner, Nietzsche defines himself as a moralist in those moments in which he mentions concepts such as "overcoming" and "will".
Also good job for having ignored those 2 direct quotes that directly contradict you.

OH FUGG MAGARONI FASHIDST :DDDD
QUICK JOSIP FETCH THE FOJBAS x-DDDD

well mussolini diden't thought in that way so in a fascist society you would be killed

Do you have daddy issues?

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Want to know something potentially true in a hypothetical modern authoritarian fascist state? The leaders would be so powerful, right, have so much luxury, leisure, etc., that they would most likely engage in decadence behind the scenes, as human nature does not simply vanish.

Fashies are always screeching about cucks and calling people cucks, yet fascist leaders would eventually have a taste of all kinds of debauchery, like torturing and killing people for pleasure, pedophilia, I don't know, shitting and pissing in a hoe's mouth, but one thing is for damn sure, eventually they would want to get cucked and watch their wives, the queen or whatever the fuck you want to call her. She'd get fucked in the ass by a big black cock while the fascist watches her. The Furher or whatever the fuck would probably even take it up the ass himself.

Give a man all the pleasures in the world, all the money in the world, all the power in the world, and he becomes decadent. That's a fact of society, and a fact of humans, that's why the left-right dichotomy constantly goes back and forth. Human nature, man. Fascists call people cucks because they secretly want to get cucked.

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protectkids.com/effects/justharmlessfun.pdf

Not him, but here you go. Of course, you are an anarkiddie so you don't care and muh spooks when your society collapses underfoot.

of course a tankie is retarded

How did it feel to get your ass kicked multyple times by the "lower race" of Ethiopians, only armed with spears and crossbows while you had fucking tanks? 😂

How does it feel to advocate the extermination of Barbarians whem it is your ancestors, the Rome pilaging Barbarians who founded Italy?

Does it feel good to spread your asscheeks to corporations and corrupt politicians?

You're a fucking idiot. I wasn't making a positive claim, I was making fun of you. Learn to read.

Also, way to avoid answering my question for the third time, retard.

What do you guys think of Nazbols?

Of course tankiddies are retarded and lack reading comprehension; where does any of that state that porn and peodphilia increase because of acceptance of homosexuals? Man you people are retarded, guess that's why you're a tankiddie. Also,

Are you racist?

Top kek.

That's spooky as fuck.

MI FAI SALIRE PERTINI. TI APPENDO COME UN SALAME.

Compagno Pertini è stato l'ultimo vero politico di sinistra in Italia. Prove me wrong non puoi

Concordo.

How small is your penis?

Pertini non è quello che durante la sua presidenza i servizi hanno assassinato Moro, la corrente di pseudosinistra (Andreatta, Prodi) della DC ha imposto l'indipendenza della banca centrale e l'aderenza dell'Italia al progetto monetario europeo (ESM) che si è poi rilevato insostenibile (1992) e puro strumento di prevaricazione di classe. Non è quello che alla fine del suo settennato ci fu un referendum sull'abolizione della scala mobile.

L'Italia è il paese dei comunisti ricchioni, gli altri comunisti lo sanno bene.

less than 15cm, not as small as the one of

Guerra civile in Italia tra comunisti servi del capitale e fascisti ritardati, servono armi, subito!

Che si ammazzino a vicenda

Magari dopo altri 20 anni di Matteo

Willing to bet it's some terrone who did time in the army to freeload for a couple of years and got brainwashed into loving Mussolini while getting fucked in the ass in the showers, that's usually how it goes. The Italian armed forces would be a laughing stock if they weren't a dangerous indoctrination tool for fashies.
They'll bring the naja back over my dead body, I swear to god.

God, you're triggered. I'm sure 99% of your personality is just shit you regurgitate from Nietzsche, without any actual understanding. Keep thinking that Nietzsche wasn't a nihilist (inb4 you were only pretending), and keep mistaking epistemological nihilism with existential pessimis, loser.

Regarding your question:
Discussing the moral frameground of an ideology is useless, even if the vast majority of leftists reach this cause for purely moral and ethical matters? Just admit it: morality in general trigger your contrarian istincts. Someone calling "evil" the act of suppressing human rights on the basis of bigotry was a good chance for you to prove how right can you be, wasn't it? Too bad that you're clueless.

Which are you fetishes?

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As a transgender faggot communist, is there anyway that you can guarantee that you don't try to kill me if you get your way?

Fanno a gara

All my posts have been pretty low effort. All your posts have been long as shit. I'd say that you're the triggered one here fam.
Nope. It's fun to see how mad you're getting at the imagined person though, keep it up lmao.
He wasn't. The fact that you think he was shows how out of your depth you are here.
I disagree, but that's irrelevant because I'm just asking you how using the term "evil" is useful, use whatever framework you'd like to justify that, spergo.

the only legitimate question is why haven't you killed yourself yet you sad basementdwelling neckbearded cheetodustcovered horsefucking fedora wearing faggot.

This tbh

OP: I'm such a traditional fascist, reading this, reading that, like my granpa, honest environment, bachelor in history, Nietzche, random showing off … more random showing off

user 1: explain me please the transcendental concept of truth and blablabla evil in the context of postmodernal random author reinterpretation of modernist more showing off blablabla

user 3: go back to your hole fascist scum!

< kek'd :DDDD

Why are you a fascist tho?
Doesn't communism work in your rational self interest whereas fascism works against it?

stfu capital collaberationist

live in voluntary commune with other freaks

I was the person talking about Nietzsche, idiot. I'm not a fascist. kys.

stfu spooked up faggot

Was it really necessary to hang him?

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you can't get more polyp than this