Infantile "Anti-Anti-Imperialism" BTFO

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Solid video by based MLM.

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libcom.org/blog/syria-imperialism-left-1-08082012
marxistsfr.org/reference/archive/smith-cyril/works/millenni/smith2.htm.
marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1917/staterev/ch05.htm
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anti-anti-imperialism fits it well, it equates it to anti-anti-fascists that cry about themself not being in favor of fascism but "only against anti-fascists who are just as bad". this should be understood by anyone on the left, even the retarded anti-anti-imperialist liberal imperialism apologets.

DFSNS is the only good option in Syria
libcom.org/blog/syria-imperialism-left-1-08082012

Stop me.

Like clockwork.

here's the real version

anarkiddies, everyone

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The Syrian communist party is like those eurocommunist parties which support lukewarm social liberals. Assad is a neoliberal and increasing socio-economic inequality was one of the biggest causes of the civil war ;)

lmao

Post yfw Marx never used the term "dialectical materialism" and that it was in fact the Russian Machists (vulgar materialists, as in they literally admitted they, including Lenin, had a shit and vulgar understanding of dialectics later on) in Plekhanov who coined it, and that if anything Marx's method is better described as the materialist dialectic: marxistsfr.org/reference/archive/smith-cyril/works/millenni/smith2.htm.

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Politically, the distinction between the first, or lower, and the higher phase of communism will in time, probably, be tremendous. But it would be ridiculous to recognize this distinction now, under capitalism, and only individual anarchists, perhaps, could invest it with primary importanceBut the scientific distinction between socialism and communism is clear. What is usually called socialism was termed by Marx the “first”, or lower, phase of communist society. Insofar as the means of production becomes common property, the word “communism” is also applicable here, providing we do not forget that this is not complete communism. The great significance of Marx's explanations is that here, too, he consistently applies materialist dialectics, the theory of development, and regards communism as something which develops out of capitalism. Instead of scholastically invented, “concocted” definitions and fruitless disputes over words (What is socialism? What is communism?), Marx gives an analysis of what might be called the stages of the economic maturity of communism.
marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1917/staterev/ch05.htm

liberals get the bullet too

I'm not a liberal but you most certainly are a revisionist :^)

anarkiddies, everyone

I wew every time

wew

It literally is undialectical. I don't see why this isn't the fitting word for it.


It isn't at all. You should read their statements. They are not fucking retards like Anarkiddies who would split off with their own commune in the middle of a genocidal war against foreign imperialist powers.

Pathetic appeal to philosophical authority. Dialectical materialism is based on Marx and a faithful development from Marx, compressing his dialectics into a digestible form as a guide to action. To all the illiterate morons who think dialectical materialism is only vulgar (it can be, when it's preached to the masses) I recommend the works of Georges Politzer.


I didn't make another thread within the last week faggot. Posting anime Zionists isn't "BTFOing" anybody.


Imagine being this dumb

That pic makes some good points OP.

You are pic related incarnated.

A stretch, but we'll take it.

Hahahaha.

Tankies will be the first against the wall once the purges start.

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the syrian communist party is smart enough to know that if syria gets crushed under the boot they and any other genuine struggle will go out the window, so they dont autistically start their own Mad max commune in the middle of the desert and then sell out to the pentagon

Wew lad, I truly want to read that vulgar bullshit about dialectics once again. Even reading some Stanford article about Hegel's dialectics is more informative.

tl:dr

DFSNS is helping america acheive global hegemoney and is destabilising the region.
keep autistically screeching on about the bullshit in your link, but the fact is that if DFSNS/SDF/whateverthefuck you wanna call that american alphabet soup takes hold in the middle east theres gonna be conflict and chaos there for decades to come.

you pathetic hypocritical faggot dont even do anything for a revolution at home, even less so abroad. so just fuck off.

its not impossible its just extremely retarded and counterproductive.

Why are sperging out so badly and attacking characters?

Hmm not sure that is true and it seems counter to everything he said before it. Why would imperialism stop if a country was suddenly independent?

what characters? im genuenly calling you out on your bullshit.
the world works in practical and logical matters, not idelaistic bullshit.

because in the brief space between to onslaughts of imperialism, so when theres no external threat, a movement can focus on an internal threat.
external threats are in case of revolutions bigger than internal ones oftenly.
look at the 1917 revolution; with the germans off the table there was no longer just russia, there was the russian people and the russian monarchy.

Yes, I'm sure the imperialist powers of the West and their right-wing nationalist opponents live and die according to whether or not they get the endorsements of fringe M-L parties with less than a thousand members.

same gpes for 3rd world revolutions limited to the borders of their sand castle.

you really dug your grave on that one.

What?

No I didn't.

Our endorsements mean literally nothing from a geopolitical standpoint. We have no actual power, this anti-imperialist realpolitik has no actual point to it. What we can all know is that, no matter who you decide to "support", your "support" won't change the outcome in the slightest. The closest you'll get is going over there and joining a militia group.

I have no idea why every M-L seems to think they're the premier of their own little SSR when actually they're just a dipshit on a computer.

remember that

not if youre going places with hard work and things youre prepared to do for the lesser evil.
im working on my future, are you?

im not a Marxist-leninist, nor am i posting from a computer.

True but anti-war/anti-imperialist platforms are always popular. Straight-out communist ones, not so much. It's definitely easier to convince the average Westerner that exploitation of the 3rd World and war in Syria is shit than convincing him that FALC is inevitable.

What world do you live on?

I have no idea what you're getting at here

I'm not a SocDem. I don't advocate for welfare reforms or muh lesser evil. I want communism.

Wew lad.

Didn't Lenin, in Left Wing Communism: An Infantile Disorder, write about the importance of (in the right conditions) working within "reactionary parliaments" and trade unions? Didn't Engels, in The Principles of Communism, write that the communists should work with the democratic socialists when possible?

And you call us infantile lol. You believe that writing shitty articles about Hezbollah's noble struggle against ( ( (imperialism) ) ) and calling other irrelevant leftists imperialist shit-lords is more important than improving the condition of the working class. Keep living in your little stalinist fantasy world.
Yeah sure.

Do anti anti imperialists even have a good refutation for the petrodollar question

DFSNS is fighting in it's own interests as it's always done. What has changed about DFSNS politics or goals since the US started helping them? Absolutely nothing. Salih has already stated there are no deals or plans for permanent bases and he most definitely outranks whichever SDF spokesperson in that reuters article. Assad was an american puppet in the past you dullard.

The social democratic reforms you advocate for are flawed and do nothing to transcend capitalism. Social Democracy doesn't work because it inhibits the accumulation and reinvestment cycle of the bourgeoisie, which is detrimental to the cycle of capitalist development.

that's an oxymoron

What is their stance on the proposed Qatari access pipeline

I'm assuming they're against it since qatar is now aligned with Iran

Also they absolutely loath turkey so there's that

Gotta love the anti-imperialist Assad who tortures people for the CIA

Well, if there's one thing the Syrian government is good at it's torturing people

gee dumbass, how about we take a look at how much of the world supports syria and how much supports YPG? choose any field, social media, popular support, state support…

im working towards high degree of education and labour experience to make use of it in the future. you is suppose are just working at mcdonalds to pay of your student debt and shitpost during your time off.
either way i would be capable of doing more for "muh tankie geopolitical dictatorship"
than you would for your "muh world revolution that will spread from some desert"

but all articles are shitty, no matter what group they talk about
isnt these echoes a pol meme?
doesent this argument work both ways?

no, because they are naive enough to be manipulated anywhere, so the petrodollar empire countries can just subvert them at home and utilise them in enemy countries to creat unrest.