"Taxation is theft."

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Indeed, as is the wages/profit system.

your boss is the only one making you pay taxes

I agree

Good thing socialist Albania and North Korea abolished taxation then

So is property.

How come this gets brought up sometimes here?

It's a voluntary exchange. If you don't like paying taxes, just stop doing it.

If I told you you have to pay me monthly or i lock you against your will in my basement is that not theft?

Capitalism is theft.

This. If you don't like it go somewhere else, this territory has been previously claimed and homesteaded by a government centuries prior to your arrival.

It's a mutual agreement between consenting individuals on the market bro. You have the freedom of choice of either paying taxes or getting locked up.

getting capital equal to the value of what you've made, while your employer gains some of that capital for the trouble of giving you employment is theft?

"Rent is theft." Well, dear visitor?

Taxation is theft, but it is usually proportional to what you're earning, and its direct result is the possibily of civilization. Schools, infrastructures, hospitals, pensions, art: all of these fields, when coupled with the free market, always bring moral aberrations in the world. Worthless public schools, unaffordable health care, no financial security for the elderly and the less fortunate, corrupted art devoid of any value: I'd rather have a percentage of what I earn going into these projects.

1. You don't receive capital, you receive a wage
2. The wage you receive is not equal to the value of what you made, this is how capitalist exploits your labor to extract surplus value. If every worker got paid exactly the value of what he produced, there would be no suplus value, no more capital for further investments and growth, and no profit.

Geez, nobody is forcing you to live here, if you don't like it just move to a different country, or start your own.

Wrong, it is overwhelmingky common for workers in co-op to give a part of what they earn to the co-op itself, so that the means of production can be improved.
The difference is that in doing so, the CEO do not get to buy himself a boat with workers' money.

What was I wrong about? Your post doesn't contradict mine

Wealth is created by collective effort. When you create wealth, you are depending on a multitude of things created and maintained by others, be it education, infrastructure, raw materials, scientific knowledge or some other things. As such, it is not only necessary but just that wealth gets spread around society rather than concentrated in the hands of a few, and in the absence of end-state socialism where this happens naturally, the state is the most capable actor for doing this.

To clarify, workers investing a portion of their wage in the coop is the same process of M-C-M' as a capitalist exploiting his workers and investing the surplus value into the production. The only difference is that one process is voluntary and the other is exploitive.

Theft is theft.

Taxation is, like the State, symbiotic to the functioning of capitalism, watch a few minutes of this: youtu.be/BYaEL0Aw_Pw?t=8m59s.

For some empirics: grist.org/business-technology/none-of-the-worlds-top-industries-would-be-profitable-if-they-paid-for-the-natural-capital-they-use/.

How is wage not capital?
I can buy MoP for my wage

I thought you were implying that progress of the means of production is impossible under socialism.

This is a great difference. Also its capitalist undertones are due to the fact that no industry can take place outside of capitalism. Yet, co-ops are in themselves, even though workers still have to invest in the means of production, a socialist practice, for you can consider those means of production properly seized by the workers who use them.

Anyway yeah, I think we're on the same page.

Money is not capital until it's invested to make more money. If you buy the MoP to be used in production then that's now capital

The wage is fixed, and is not related to the actual value you produce (well, it is related in the sense that you won't get no wage if you produce less than what you earn, which means that in this compromise not even financial stability is granted to the worker). It's one of the main tools capitalist have to alienate workers from their work?

*that last question mark is a typo

Yes I fully agree

It's only bad if a monarch taxes the peasants but if it's the communist government taxing the plebs it's justice somehow.