Redpill me on communism

They didn't. First communists were early christian communities. Furthermore the utopian socialists, Owen, Proudhon, etc. were all non jewish. Finally Marx himself was ethnically jewish but his family was converted to lutheranism. He was raised Lutheran and became an Athiest as an adult. He didn't identify as a jew at all. Also, you're forgetting the huge mass of people like Engels, Kautsky, etc. who were just regular white people that were Marxist. Not to mention all the non europeans like Mao, Ho Chi Minh, Sankara, Cabral. So the short answer is jews didn't invest socialism or communism, although in certain contexts like imperial russia they were disproportionately represented (although still a tiny group overall) because the government was persecuting them as jews and therefore they had an incentive to be attracted to an anti-government ideology.

TLDR: read this:
commonruin.wordpress.com/2014/02/02/on-the-myth-of-cultural-marxism/

It begins/ends with bloodbath.

youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3F695D99C91FC6F7

This playlist is pretty much solid and easily digestable for beginners.

you're probably not a kike but you're not 100% informed either

"Here are snip[pets of Army Intelligence reports written by Captain Montgomery Schuyler. Schuyler made a point of the heavy Jewish involvement in the Communist revolution. Schuyler wrote that "It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the United States but the Bolshevik movement is and has been since its beginning guided and controlled but Russians Jews of the greasiest type.." and went on to point out that of the total 384 commissars running the Soviet Union, more than 300 were Jews."

2 negros, 13 russians, 15 chinamen, 22 armenians, and more than 300 jews.

does that sound like a russian goverment to you?

rip thread

lmao
Do you even know what a commissar is?

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If muh Jews ruled the world and if they wanted to implement communism, it would have been done a loooong time ago. The examples you brought up with the Wikipedia profiles are very nitpicked. Furthermore, clumping together Jews as a race *and* Judaism as a religion just shows the underlying inconsistency of your argument here. Islam isn't a race, and Christianity isn't either, so Jews and Judaism should not be treated as if they are the same, since there is one separate race component and one separate religion component.

384 members of the Council of People's Commissars you retards. This report is from 1919.

Also,

timesofisrael.com/putin-first-soviet-government-was-mostly-jewish/

jewwatch.com/jew-genocide-USSRchristians-usexpeditionaryforces.html

Holla Forums's not a source. and the so called "bolsheviks despising judaism" are ethnic jews. not religious jews.

this book sites trotsky as an outstanding jew. trotsky's an atheist.

amazon.com/Whos-Who-World-Jewry-Biographical/dp/0961827203

the book in question is sponsored by different jewish organization including the adl

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you're just proving to us you're a retard way out of his depth now

who is this T. H. Rigby, i cant find any material on who he is

i am inclined to believe the american ambassador to russia.

He was a sovietologist author

quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=acls;cc=acls;view=toc;idno=heb05453.0001.001

next time try google

Commissars are polical officers in the Soviet Military. They didn't "rule" more than 30 people at a time. Read something other than low lQ nazi propaganda lol.

the info on him seems really obscure. why would the u.s lie about the composition of bolsheviks in 1918?

Read a book please.

you cant read can you? the guy who i replied to said "jewish" bolsheviks are atheists.

However, members of jewish organizations that sponsor a book on great and outstanding jews cite an atheist communist as a great jew.

Hi Hawaii Left Review wathca' doin?

Jesus how do philistines like yourself manage to keep speaking? How many times do we have to repeat this to you: the jews are not the cause of whatever your trouble is, whether is be a low cash flow or a stubbed toe.

Google The Iran Contra Affair

then why were so many jews communists?
why were jews kicked out of 189 countries?
why are there so many jewish billionaires?
why were many of the founders of feminism jewish?
why are jews pushing diversity in places that dont want it?
why was it always jewish lawyers that represented blacks in the american civil rights era?
why is it illegal to deny the holocaust in so many european countries?

Keep watching Alex Jones, good little prole.

i dont watch alex jones, and alex jones isn't an anti semite either.

Okay go back to the Daily Stormer then, Adolf.

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Read Zizek

The same reason that anyone becomes a communist
What is a scapegoat and distraction?
Why are there so many non jewish billionaires?
"founders of feminism"? wew
That's a result of capitalism, which is inherently unstable and causes many a crisis.
Because there are lots of jewish lawyers.
Why do you think fam?

Fuck off, most of us used to be Holla Forumsacks, be nice to them. They don't know any better. Also, you sound like a retard because you clearly don't know shit about right-wing ideas. There's more nuance than you'd think and they care very much about their different labels.

And Austrians like to cite Mozart as a great Austrian despite his native Salzburg not getting annexed until after his death, those sorts of organizations and lists are always looking to stretch the definition of a whatever they are if it'll nab them someone important.

I don't see why we should tolerate blatant hatred of jews. This shill did not come here to learn, he came here to bait.

I used to be a Holla Forumsack too. I stopped being tat only after self-education.

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because christian states often oppressed jews. Commies wanted to smash or capture said state.
Even muslims were kicked out of christian countries or christians from muslim countries. That is how stuff worked then, you could either convert or had to GTFO.
Banking, lot's of private property and trades, AKA capitalism.
like who?
Because they are capitalists, it's in their self interest to divide working class.
I don't have a clue, I'm not american.
Because our forefathers died to stop Adolf "turbocapitalist" Hitler. French partisans alone probably done more to stop Third Reich than america, and I don't count partisans from every other single european country.

How did you go from pol to lefty pol?

Name? I can't find anything

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Jewish_feminists

Why are so many jews bankers?

This proves literally nothing. Prove that jews founded the feminist movement (as if that is even a problem).

meh, sounds like bourgeois, non-marxist feminism

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Sick sources but this isn't a historical fiction board. Sorry.

Holla Forums's moderation stifled any free thought so I came here to shitpost/troll. Patient anons helped me see that leftism isn't so bad. I still kind of feel like leftists lack a healthy sense of disgust often times though.

because christians forced them to. But history is irrelevant now, I'm marxist because I am, along with many other stuff, for abolition of banking.

wewlad

The book credited for starting second wave femenism

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Feminine_Mystique

Go on the author's wikipedia page.

Ctrl + F: Jew

wewlad

the book literally started the second wave.
the entire point of getting women to vote was so that politicians can use identity politics which splits up the family unit.

when it was only men who had the right to vote, the man voted on behalf of his family because the man was the representative of a family. he had to pick someone who would benefit his family

when women get the right to vote, politicians get to use identity politics to divide the two and split the family unit into two.

that's how you get dumb women voting for hillary because muh vagina

THE SOLUTION IS AsserISM

FUCK JEWS AND FUCK CAPITALISTS

Top brainlet

FUCK YOU MODS.
strass.erism is great. kys

men represented the family brainlet. they had to make choices behalf of them. women do not.

I never disputed that buddy.
Wew, that's literally not true. Politicians at the time would likely have preferred to not be pressured by a mass movement.
See also:

strasserism

yep. identity politics

strasserism

Men were the breadwinners, idiot. That doesn't make them more definitive representatives of the household. wew

Women don't make choices for their family? That is just so blatantly incorrect. It seems like you people always just assume that the system is perfect except for some malevolent other ruining it when in reality these things are inherent to the system. Grow up anytime.

they do make decisions. dumb decisions. that's why a successful matriarch doesnt exist.

by this logic is saudi arabia most successful country in the world. Just go back reading your Koran and praying to Mecca, shitskin.

Could you elaborate on what you mean by this?
Society used to value patriarchs (and still does, just to a lesser degree), so it's obvious why this would be true. And anyways you're a brainlet if you think there's no female historical figures of note.

Was someone's mother abusive or something?

i thought leftists arent racists? anyway, saudi arabia isn't successful because it's full of sandniggers.

those female historical figures are anecdotes. look at countries with female leaders. germany and sweden for example. look at how well those countries are doing.

i come from the balkans and these views are actually quite normal here. along with the antisemetism

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I'm not, but orthodox muslims like you are driving me crazy.

You literally just used an anecdote to prove your point right after complaining about anecdotes you literal retard.

In what universe?

key word is historical.

lower gdp than turkey

You're such a retard.

every time

not an argument

Still true tho

Reading and life experiences

It's quite successful for its goals
Spreading Wahhabist terror, killing sunnis , getting the monarchy more petrobucks

anyone know what the sauce of this image is?

Proudhon invented scientific socialism, you illiterate.
- Proudhon

Man, it's depressing how difficult it was to install communism compared to dismantling it. The former took a once in a lifetime convergence of national and international social and economic factors, plus catastrophic revolutions and civil war. The latter just needed a few porkies well-positioned within the party.

it's the same thing for all good things in life man. i just wish everyone would get along and for all the problems in the world to go away.
to bad i'm a nazi.

too.

People have more sex under socialism and communism.

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GEE I WONDER

because communism gave them a chance at egalitarianism because historically they were an oppressed peoples. It is in their interest. Its like asking "why are so many starving people in favor of getting food?"
Denying Jesus as the son of god was an EXTREMELY fringe taboo that could get you killed.
They tend to make their own communities that only trade with eachother and when they die they would pass on their wealth to their families rather than giving it to the church, like in catholicism.
pics.
neonazi conspiracy theory; please name me the actual organizations and/or people who are doing this. Don't just say "the jews."
What the fuck does this have to do with anything? Plenty of non-jews represented blacks as well. That's because they're lawyers, that's their job. Did you know Fred Phelps, founder of Westboro Baptists Church, represented black people in court during that time? It's their job.
This has nothing to do with the jews, it has everything to do with the governments.

[CITATION NEEDED]

Holla Forumscucks bring this up all the time but they never cite any specific examples or offer any explanations.

i understand now
so basically, you're butt angry that you work for other people and what you make gets to be kept by other people.

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Take this then.

they literally couldn't do anything else in the middle ages.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Court_Jew
also they were exiled to Babylon in the ancient era, which is where the first banking industries started.

If I have a good job and a family, a house and a nice yard, why should I want communism?

Yes

for the less fortunate people goy!!!!

You really thinks someone would do that? Just lie in propaganda?

the u.s wouldnt lie about something like that. they have zero reason to give shit.

they'd lie about other things, but not this.

It's likely you would have a higher pay under communism, but I don't know your current occupation for sure so I can't say. Either way the fact is that Communism is not in everyone's best interest. The minority of landowners strongly oppose it. But for the majority of people that's not the case.

What pay am I gonna get when capital is done with?

Why would I be better off than I am now?

i live in a former communist country. my ancestors are literally comprised of peasants from villages. they took the food and crops my family produced. they all hated communism.

if communism was so good, the eastern european countries wouldnt hate it that much. in the country i am in right now, anti semetism is high and along with nationalism. i can honestly say living standards are much then.

back then, we did not have enough food to feed everyone. now we have more food than we do people. our goverment is a little corrupt, but we can change that.

i am not a capitalist, but i believe in the free market and the exchange of goods for services. dont take that away from me. i will fight to the death to defend this right.

keep communism away. thank you.

some communist tell me please
why my family exploited for half century under communist rule
you see it's not real communism. what is real communist system? means of production have been seized like german man karl marx say.

why are communist women in western country thinking that being of communist nation mean they can do whatever it is they want?

we live in the past communism. my mom still cook and clean along with all the women. they were happy doing that! what is wrong with being a good mother?

maybe you should get the system to see how bad it is. then you will want to turn back. most of you are very young anyway and will grow out of it

my grandpa tell me difficulty of small thing such as acquiring bread.

i do not think you westeners want this no?

fuck off ukkkrainian.

Eastern Europe will be the only safe place

whatever, the point is he wasnt jewish

I don't want you here, fuck off.

If only this was reddit, you could have just banned me

I don't mean here on 8ch, faggots like you can stay on this fucked part of angloweb, BUT I'm not letting you emigrate to my part of the europe, we are full.

Where am I trying to immigrate to?

idk, all I know is that you are faggot and I do not want you here. I could change my opinion if you prove to be able to drink, tho.

Stefanie Knight

so basically be socially awkward and never engage with any other human bean

Further research has revealed it's actually Liz Tess, my mistake.

It's literally God's plan for humanity.

Sad to see you uKKKranians didn't get any educashun in that time or you would know communist countries don't exist because communism is global.
Your kulak parents fucking deserved it, they also deserved a retarded child (you)
WE COMIN FOR THOSE SPOOKS TOO BUCKO

We are not kulak, we are normal present. They gave up the grain.

And yes communism is global. And globalism is bad. We do not want globalism.

You are coming for us? Come. You westerners are usually a bunch of pussies. You probably never held rifle in your life. Unless if you are American. Most Americans are dumb or inbred anyway. It is why you lose war to rice farmers.

Thats a part of it yes.
Why do you make this sound as if its invalid? Are slaves just crybabies because they dont want to be slaves?

k

also