Should I join the Democratic Socialists of America? I'm really considering it. Do we have any DSA members here?

Yes, you should join them. They vary from chapter to chapter, but are multi-tendency and are trying to do some good work.

Has the cop been remove or his gear still there?

* still there

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Fugg no, you shouldn't.

DSA never endorsed Hillary. Stop pushing this narrative Mr. FBI.

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I was on the fence about joining but I just got back from a meeting.

While their platform is reformist, they do seem to be actual socialists and not socdems. You should contact your local chapter, go to a meeting, and see for yourself really.

Don't join, see if you can get into the meetings without.

How do I find out if there's a chapter near me? When I go to the website to look it asks me for my full name and home address to view that section. No thanks.

That's really weird. It didn't require an account a few days ago.

What is the DSA's stance on police unions?

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Go toma Merino and se if is rugby for you

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DSA is a front for the Democratic Party tbh.
They are using the events in Charlottesville as an opportunity to recruit. They aren't real leftists. Their ultimate goal is to support Blue Lives Matter and elect Corey Booker or Chelsea Clinton in 2020.

Piss off SAlt.

every thread, the same SAlty trots.
You know that the DSA and SA have worked together?

you don't think it's rather suspicious that they're the fastest growing party in America? they are 100% getting donations from the owners of the DNC

They definitely are not. They get membership fees to fund their organization. Also people are joining because socialism is cool now. Fuck off with your conspiracies you stupid fed.

The DNC aren't some all powerful omnipotent beast. America and the factions within it have and will again fuck up in moments of panic and impulse.
They clearly aren't as savvy as they like to think they are, they ran their campaign off analytics and then fucking lost it in one of the most humiliating political defeats in recent memory.

I see no evidence of this

He…hey guys, remember not to join the fastest growing socialist movement in the US, I totally say this because it's a bad idea, and totally not because I'm either a very salty trot or a Fed.

Well, the DSA is fast growing… That must be something right?

so prove to me they aren't SuccDems.

With this logic we should support Our Revolution instead because it's led by the most popular politician in the United States, Bernie Sanders the Vermont Zionist.

Just because Sanders or DSA call themselves socialist, doesn't make it so. LARPing and wearing read, while still supporting the Democratic Party does not make you a socialist. Period.

show me where the majority of the DSA supports the democrats. each chapter runs itself, national basically handles the printing of pamphlets and documenting the budget.

they made their budget easily accessible during their convention for all members.

THE COP IS STILL THERE

I lol'd

Most chapters that are large enough to engage in electoral politics without a doubt end up supporting a Democrat. DSA is not a political party.
DSA supported Bernie Sanders in 2016 and Obama in 2012. They are SuccDems who believe that he Democratic Party can bring in "socialism". They just want to preserve capitalism by boosting the welfare state. They do not believe in socialist transformation .They are SuccDems and are not above supporting a liberal in order to defeat Trump in 2020.

Genocide all reformists

I'd only join if they were the only 'socialist' group where I was, because doing something > not doing something.

But fortunately, we got the IWW up here, so its all good.

A DSA person actually tried to come up where we were to start a group and we were like "why do we need you, if you tried something you would just split the membership and make us less effective."

discord whatever trot posters say

discard
fuck

I wish I could bring myself to believe this is bait…

salt and DSA are comrades. this is a guy pretending to be a dumbass Spart or something. all the big trot groups are cool with us.

IWW is heavily affiliated with DSA in my chapter and lots of other chapters. DSA don't split or poach because they're not centralists and don't see themselves The Revolutionary Party to be built. they were trying to help and you were being a dick

a ton of the members are threatening a dues strike if the cop isnt removed. everoyne is debating and the old guard/more liberal wing is learning about why cops are bad. its a productive scandal, at least. its starting to drag a bit now but i have every expectation he will be removed after the audio from the Austin local meeting leaked and showed him to be completely circumventing democracy

Link? I haven't heard the leak.

Fetonte will not be kicked out. He will stay, and in typical succdem mentality, they will support the narrative that cops are workers too and that kicking him would be too leftwing.
SuccDems are the right-wing of socialism. They are okay with cop enablers.

twitter.com/austin_DSA/status/898602323978592256

Around 9:30 or so he does the first egregiously bad thing and it gets worse from there.

I know Holla Forums hates progressive stack but it's designed to prevent this white cop from strangling a discussion about his own fitness for the position.

Go away fed.

This

Go away bootlicker

but brosip, you are the succdem

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But I'm for community control of police.

And market socialism isn't succ dem

go to a fucking meeting

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I talked to a member. One of their main goals is moving the Democratic Party to the left aka "Bernie succ dem". I guess technically their not succ Dems because there's no way they be successful

No one is defending Fetonte.

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SuccDems are the right-wing of socialism. They are okay with cop enablers.
This guy is

Literelly most of the South is defending Fetonte, along with the old guard and most Bernie Liberals. muh cops are workers too meme.

Fetonte has been in the NPC for over two weeks. He is not going anywhere. DSA does not have the ideology to kick him out. They will just say, "oh he's only 1 out of 16 members".
Having a cop in the NPC is not a problem for a Democratic Front.

This guy loves himself some police infiltration.

This again

It's funny because they've been shitting up every DSA thread for weeks with the same bullshit and no real arguments.

literally just the old guard in austin.

Join whatever org is best in your area.

Start a chapter. You'll be surprised how many people would support you.

STOP BEING SECTARIAN FUCKS, JOIN THE UNITED FRONT

It's controlled opposition. Check it out if you're interested, but only as an entry point to connect with more serious marxists.

DSA is going to suffer a split sooner or later. As the movement heats up, the question of revolution or reform will pose itself. Go ahead and join DSA now or whatever, it's as good a place as any to get involved, but you should study revolutionary theory and align yourself with the left wing.

Why do you faggots dislike cops? Why do leftists never grow out of that edgy anti authoritarian phase? I think it's ego

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LOL

yes thats what im implying..

michael brown dindu nuffin, da cops oppressing us

Well can't argue with that…oh man do those multi million dollar lawsuits won by people that got filmed getting beat and killed by cops piss you off? I bet they do. I bet they they all don't work another day of their lives.
SHOOK

good luck finding a non-edgy political space online

no thanks.

Don't, it's full of idpol :
youtube.com/watch?v=iP3GdVLczbI

Seems to depend a lot on where you are. Chicago's chapter, iirc, is full of SocDems, while Anchorage's (which, tbh, is made up of like 15 people max) is filled with Trots and MLs.

If you're interested, just go to a meeting and see if you like it or not. It seems like after Charlottesville, PSL and DSA have been getting closer/are working on a coalition. If you don't like DSA, at least join IWW or PSL.

Cops literally always stand with the capitalist government in any revolutionary situation, unlike the army which usually sees at least a partial split.

The only people in the left who don't get along with DSA are ML or Trot cults, like The Internationalists or Sparts.

Yeah, I say to it user. Quality differs from chapter to chapter, but it's perfect for leftypol entryism. It needs people like you to steer things left and away from idpol.

I'm a member and I made lots of friends through my local chapter

Kek. CPUSA endorsed Clinton, but DSA didn't.

National is kind of a meme but a lot of the local chapters are legit

its essentially the only left-wing group in the U.S which isnt an absolute meme group and that has socialists in it
so i would say yes

Hey hey hey what about the IWW?

also them

Even if the organization in the larger sense might be idpol by some and succdems by others, I really feel like there's potential in the local chapters. Their very existence is at least one small step towards popularizing socialist ideas, lowering the threshold for engaging and weakening the taboo surrounding it in the public discourse.
I know that influencing "muh public discourse" isn't anything grand, but I see a need for such small steps considering the closed-mindedness of the Yankee public political sphere, where the populous has become apathetic and disinterested to participate.