How do we eliminate ghetto mentality?

How do we eliminate ghetto mentality?

Blacks never chose this depressing lifestyle and whats worse is it's been trending to whites now, and theyre adopting/mocking/copying this mentality because its the hip and cool thing.

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Ban rap music, destroy consumerism, destroy the usa
I'm not even ironic

Also make mandatory to watch the wire

At first rap music was ok, it was basically a modern form of the blues, taking about the ghetto life and expressing how they feel…

But now this whole rap shit is owned by porky and every song is targeted to teens about smoking weed, gangbanging and being edgy.

Rap can be pretty revolutionary,Just focus on abolishing capitalism and the rest should follow suit

Do what the Black Panthers were doing. They were dedindufying America, and Porky doesn't want that.

youtube.com/watch?v=6lIqNjC1RKU

Ya'll lay off rap music

Uhh… eliminate the ghetto?
How has no one else said this?

not only eliminate the ghettos but force the rich and poor and middle class to live together in close proximity to each other. Live work, and everything inbetween.

Because that's a catch 22.

Rap music is anti intellectual as fuck. They made "music" simple. Even the most intellectual and complicated rap is simpler and stupider than pop

shut up you fucking idiot. that's not materialism.

Only casually racist morons who don't understand the culture that comes out of the ghetto would say such retarded things as "ban rap music". If your ideas on how to fix things coincide with American conservatism you need to rethink you being a leftist.

Every single genre of music is guilty of the same crimes rap are capable of and it has everything to do with capitalism and corporate power of the arts and nothing to do with the people in the ghettos. Sex and violence sells so now country, rap, rock, every cut of music is infected with it. That does not mean the entire genre is irredeemable or needs to be banned it just means the people need to take back their music.

Is it?

Most idiots who like rap only like it because its "cool"

Wrong. Listen to Killer Mike and eat your own doo doo. Maybe it is you who is desperate to seem above the fray of ordinary folks? If that is the case you will never be able to foment revolution in your lifetime- you are a dead end.

Really, man? You can do better than that, this reads like something I heard in middle school over a decade ago.

I say ban rap music, but I also said ban americans, checkmate

Nope, no music genere promoted material hedonism as much as rap. Yeah rock, but for every Hair metal, stadium rock Def Leppard there was a Gang of Four or The Pop group that was against that shit. Also Rap is simpler than any other fucking genere.

The amount of ignorance coming off this post just makes you look even worse. You are sound like Rick Santorum or Mitt Romney talking about young people these days. You have no idea how normal people live and yet you claim to represent their interests? How pathetic.

Tankies once again proving themselves to be fun loving and understanding types

lmao

Every response to this thread should just be Killer Mike's Reagan video over and over again.

ITT: Peak idealism and barely reformed Holla Forumsyps collide to "fix" the black community.

you fucking SCUMBAG.

you know NOTHING about not only the rich (class conscious!) history of rap, but the fact you would have the fucking audacity to call it simple in face of the genius of goodie mob, of outkast, of clipse, of de la soul, and COUNTLESS others, and this isn't even to mention the musical pioneers rap has produced who don't have politically inclined lyrics. you actually disgust me, and the racism lying behind your posts itt is pathetically transparent. rap was undeniably THE proletarian music of the late 80's throughout the 90's, and even today, though corporate labels have done their best to delegitimize the art form (i wonder why), black, proletarian, american consciousness still manages to find its expression in the genre. rap "made music simple." un-fucking-believable. you have no idea what you're talking about, fucking degenerate.

rap more like crap haha yeah so how's your 6th grade going so far guys

yes it is not like we need the poor and working class for our revolution or anything what are we communists?

why are tankies have such shit taste?

i'm actually so pissed over this idiot's posts. if you're trolling, good job because it worked.

you have literally no idea what it means to be a leftist. fucking idiot seriously tried to blame black poverty on rap. it's like he's a fox new anchor. fucking degenerate. fucking philistine. fucking moron.

Okay you're right. some people like music because it fits their personality, Just like the same people liked disco and heavy-metal in the 70s.

But i dont think the message behind this kind of genre (at least the heavily marketed genre) is healthy for the mind, and is just trying to appeal to edgy teens who also love seeing hot girls in music videos.

Maybe this isnt the case for people who listen to rap in their mid-20s who can relate to being lower-class, but i just dont think talking about killing people, robbing, doing drugs, gangbanging and being a fuckboy is that good of a message.

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I never said that rap caused poverty, what I meant is that rap is now owned by porky and is just there to appeal to edgy teens and promote drug abuse.

also do you even know what posts are mine?

It's a reflection of the material conditions the black community lives in. It's an indictment of capital. This is basic materialism.

10/10 post OP. We never chose that shit.

Where is this from?

This is the >Holla Forums is one person version of music.

yes all rap is filthy porky propaganda this is all going according to plan now just slip these handcuffs on your brother for me now

The video for Reagan by Killer Mike.

Not him, but its more of an Adorno thing regarding the commodification of rap and how if make something in reaction to something as "not the established culture" then it becomes empty unauthentic drab which is eventually subsumed by the dominant culture, no matter how "woke" it sounds or how real the persons intentions are. youtube.com/watch?v=-njxKF8CkoU

Nice pasta.

Poop.
Brits made class conscious music with punk and all its variants without falling for that anti intellectual shit that is mumbling.

M8…
The whole world ain't america

You are ignoring that the criticism leveled at punk and especially brit punk bands was the EXACT SAME THING you are saying about rap RIGHT NOW. Conservatives during that era became broken records whining about how it was destroying the youth and glorified violence and drug use. Do you even know the history of your own music?

But he's actually listened to punk music, so he knows better, while he remains intentionally ignorant of rap music.

Oh fuck off. There's plenty of vapid punk with no intellectual merit.

This kills the constitutionalist.

wtf why would you do that when you can just introduce class consciousness to it?
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Mainstream punk. Never heard no conservative brit talking smack about The Fall pal.
Fuck The Smiths are more prole than fucking rep

Conservatives are gonna hate anything they don't understand and right now you sound kind of like one. No matter how tankie you get you still got some old scared conservative trapped inside you- time to let him out. Take off the glasses.

[Verse 1: Kool A.D.]
Yeah, you don't need to see I.D
Kool A.D., Kool A.D., Kool A.D
That's me – what you mean the list over?
We don't get all our guests in, the shit over
Please understand what I'm saying
Rider ain't up to par, we ain't playing
Whole clique get in the club or we skating
Y'all gotta deal with everybody who came in
Already and paid and now they angry and saying
All type of shit like, "You played us"
And you won't like that
So let's say just a couple of players on
The Ay-Ay-Ay list
The Hey-Player-Man-Yo-I-Thought-This-Was-The-Bay list
The Dog-You-A-Hater-Playboy-You-In-The-Way list
The Better-Let-Me-In-Or-Better-Pray list
The Hooked-Me-Up-Just-The-Other-Day list
The Like-Why-Not-Today? list

[Hook: Boots Riley]
We're all V.I.P
I'm talking every motherfucker in my hood and me
I mean, we're all V.I.P., V.I.P., V.I.P

[Verse 2: Killer Mike]
I'm in the VIP with the Bloods and the Crips
And the Stones and the GDs, everybody see me
I'm in the section with the niggas that's bamma
Got dreads, gold teeth, talk real bad grammar
I'm over here with the welfare recipients
We ain't never paying, but we stay getting shit
I am with the people on the bottom, fella
We gonna riot, loot, rob til we rich as Rockefeller
We ruthless as a Carnegie
And we gon' bone thug 'til we get this shit in harmony
The one percent better learn to share the V.I.P
Or we gon' nut up – everybody gon' D.I.E

[Verse 3: Boots Riley]
You know I'm balling soft, make my drink a Molotov
Call it crunk or call it off, swing it like a Tomahawk
Middle finger at the cops, brothers gonna get a spark
Bottle, pistol, or a rock; one day, we gon' call the shots
My flow, it sputters like they shut off my water
I got the sheriff after me for what I said 'bout Obama
My flag is red like a period, comma, I'm a piranha
Just like every one of y'all – let's take that shark to the slaughter
And we gotta be bouncing more than last month's rent check
Boss walking Wall Street with a pimp step
People of Whoville, we need to slit the Grinch neck
Low-paid prostitutes with no fishnets

[Hook]

[Verse 4: Heems]
We all V.I.P
I'm pretty great, you should be like me
Be like her, be like him
I get my jeans at V.I.M
I get my shirts at Jimmy Jazz
I have more shirts than Jimmy has
Yes, we all important
Yes, you should be supported
Yes, I'm getting bored with
All y'all noises, so discordant
It's Himanshu, Uncle Sam wants you
That's a bonsai tree, it's expensive
Put it down
Heema put it down, Heema put it down
When nobody around
Heema wear the crown
Heema wear a gown
Heema wear a shirt that say John Bowne

So now you're naming a bunch of post-punk/art rock bands??? At least name some gritty punk if you're playing prolier than thou. Also Morrissey is a reactionary twit that needs to retire.

i'm familiar with the argument, however it ignores the historical situation rap came out of. while it was certainly counter to the 'established culture,' this is not the reason it was created, a la something like punk. up until at least '94, it was an authentic expression of urban black consciousness which accidentally became popular. rap originally had no intentions of reaching the mainstream. even today, while its widespread commodification is no secret, rap has never lost its subversive potential in the domain of (free) mixtapes.


oh fuck off, you know very well these are my own words. respond to me, you fucking bitch.

The smiths are shit for retards who need their music to sound gay to ffel it has a meaning. Nah actually I dont believe this but it's the exact samabmental manure as your "criticism" of rap. When you say it's "simple" it doesn't mean anyrhing. First why music without few changes should be bad, a lot of minimal music is regarded as great art. You know what there is no second point. I realized you will never change your mind, you are a very stupid person and you proved this a lot in other places you will keep repeating rap is stupid and in your life you will never see how this for you is a self fullfilling prophecy. You know I can see what tour life will be, people like you that have this thinking pattern tend to have a very similar way of acting in life, they always live vad lifes and point their fingers at everyone. Because you are the only one who is right, here, irl, everywhere. And you will never understand how absurd your way of thinking is. Or if you do it will be very very painful.

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{^1: "Yo, yo, yo, yo!"}
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{^1: "Yo, yo, yo, yo!"}

[Hook: repeat 2X]
We've got 5 million ways to kill a CEO / Slap him up and shake him up and then you know
Let him off the flo' then bait him with the dough / You can do it funk or do it disco {^1} y'know how this go

[Boots]
Well I hope you testify that it was worth your waitin / On the turf debatin how to get it percolatin
He workin you while we happy just to work a day / But I'mma slap him 'til my blood starts circulatin {^1}
Do your checks have elasticity? / Did they cut off yo' 'lectricity?
Did you scream and yell explicitly? / Force the boss into complicity {^1}
I'm a white chalk stencil but I push a pencil / Rollin dope fiend rentals through your residential
Broke as fuck, eatin lentils with no utensil / Finna teach pimp class with a ho credential {^1}
They own sweats shops, pet cops and fields of cola / Murder babies with they molars on the areola
Control the Pope, Dali Lama, Holy Rollers, and the Ayatollah / Bump this rollin {^1} in your bucket or your new Corolla
Well you might catch me on the scenic route, with my penis out / Yellin, "Twamps for the executives with the meanest mouth!"
Wanna know what this demeanor's bout? City tried to clean us out / Green is clout, shut 'em down {^1} they ain't never seen a drought
You interviewed but they ain't callin you back / And for the record I ain't called it a gat
But tuck this in the small of your back / Wait in the bathroom stall 'til I tap {^1}

[Hook]

[Boots]
'Cept this game ain't slow, it's the creeper / If you a janitor, get a street sweeper
Ugly is even skin deeper / If you can't get the Pres, get the VeePer {^1}
They made the murder scene before there was a coroner / I mighta been born here but I'm a foreigner
Spillin swigs for victims of pigs and Afeni's kid / Flip off the lid, who you {^1} pourin fo'?
You too could be a corporate green killer, bean spiller, uhh / "Gangster of Love" just like Steve Miller
They wear skivvies that's made of chinchilla / Factory in Mexico, bought {^1} a spring villa
I'm from the land where the Panthers grew / You know the city and the avenue
If you the boss we'll be smabbin through, and we'll be grabbin you / To say, "Whassup with the ra-venue?" {^1}
And if you feel it we can even try to seal it with the /
[Hook]

[Boots]
Tell him it's a boom in child prostitution / When he show up at the stroll give him lead restitution
You could throw a twenty in a vat 'o hot oil / When he jump in after it watch him boil {^1}
Toss a dollar in the river and when he jump in / If you can find he can swim
Put lead boots on him and do it again! You and a friend / Videotape and the party don't end {^1}
Tell that boogers be sellin like crack / He gon' put the little baggies in his nose, and suffocate like that
Put a fifty in the barrel of a gun / When he try to suck it out, a-ha, well you {^1} know this one
Make sure you ain't got no priors / Don't tell 'em that we conspired
We could let him try to change a flat tire / Or we could all at once retire {^1}
There are just a few of the
[Hook]

[Boots]
Bay Area, get ready to brawl, Bay Area, are you ready to brawl? / L.A., get ready to brawl, L.A., are you ready to brawl? {^1}
Chi-town, get ready to brawl, Chi-Town, are you ready to brawl? / Detroit, get ready to brawl, Detroit, are you ready to brawl? {^1}
Atlanta, get ready to brawl, Atlanta, are you ready to brawl? / Houston, get ready to brawl, Houston, are you ready to brawl? {^1}
New York, get ready to brawl, New York, are you ready to brawl? / London, get ready to brawl, London, are you ready to brawl? {^1}
Capetown, get ready to brawl, Capetown, are you ready to brawl? / Tokyo, get ready to brawl, Tokyo, are you ready to brawl? {^1}

Yeah
The Coup {^1}
Boots Riley
Pam the Funkstress
It's really goin' down {^1}
Yeah, ya know, in case you didn't know, gats are comin
The Coup
You know, sum'n, sum'n {^1}

Rap is fine, capitalism and the need to market rappers as personalities promotign Gucci, Givicci, Versace, and all those other dumb brands needs to be banned.

[Intro 2x]
Hey you!
We got your war
We're at the gates
We're at your door

[Hook 4x]
We got the guillotine
We got the guillotine, you better run

[Verse 1]
We want to thank you for flying with us
We know you coulda stayed home, just cried and cussed
May all your guns go off if it's time to bust
May all they tanks have time to rust
They got the armies turning bullets into gold
They got the hookers turning tricks in the cold
And every time the police kicks in the door
An angel gas brake dips in the O
And even if a d-boy flips him a O
It ain't enough to buy shit anymore
Sleep in the doorway, piss on the floor
Look in the sky, wait for missiles to show
It's finna blow cause
They got the TV, we got the truth
They own the judges and we got the proof
We got hella people, they got helicopters
They got the bombs and we got the, we got the

[Hook]

[Bridge: Silk-E]
Don't talk about it
It won't show
Be about it
It's 'bout to blow

[Verse 2]
I just spit the dope lines, I don't snort 'em
Tell the boss to call police to escort him
You don't write all them lies, you just quote 'em
Get offline, plug in to this modem
No, you can't out-vote 'em
The rules is still golden
Only jewels we holding is if we guarding our scrotum
If you press your ear to the turf that is stolen
You can hear the sound of limitations exploding
Please sir, may we have another portion?
We're children of the beast that dodged the abortion
Neck placed firm 'tween the floor and the Florsheim
We'll shut your shit down, don't call it extortion
Caution – we're coming for your head
So call the Feds and get files to shred
Every textbook read said bring you the bread
But guess what we got you instead?

[Hook]

[Outro: Silk-E]
Let's keep it banging like a shotgun
We in a war before we fought one
Now if you're tired of working so they can play
A common enemy, we got one
Now keep it banging like a shotgun
We in a war before we fought one
Now if you're tired of working from day to day
A common enemy, we got one

[Bridge]

Somebody webm "Reagan"

I agree. Still he wanted to kill maggie and kill the queen.
I not big on standard punk. I'm a big fan of proto punk and post tho.
The fall was the prolliest that I could come up with.
Wire, gang of four, the pop group are pretty marxist too

Suck my dick pleb

No honestly I don't get the appeal of rap seen how post punk was more prole, while being experimental, while doing actual music. Punk did anything that rap is trying to do better.

The ballot or the bullet, some freedom or some bullshit
Will we ever do it big, or just keep settling for lil' shit?
We brag on having bread, but none of us are bakers
We all talk having greens, but none of us own acres
If none of us own acres, and none of us grow wheat
Then who will feed our people when our people need to eat
So it seems our people starve from lack of understanding
Cause all we seem to give them is some balling and some dancing
And some talking about our car and imaginary mansions
We should be indicted for bullshit we inciting
Hand the children death and pretend that it's exciting
We are advertisements for agony and pain
We exploit the youth, we tell them to join a gang
We tell them dope stories, introduce them to the game
Just like Oliver North introduced us to cocaine
In the 80's when the bricks came on military planes

[Sample: Ronald Reagan]
A few months ago I told the American people I did not trade arms for hostages. My heart and my best intentions still tell me that's true, but the facts and the evidence tell me it is not

[Verse 2]
The end of the Reagan Era, I'm like 'leven, twelve, or
Old enough to understand the shit'll change forever
They declared the war on drugs like a war on terror
But what it really did was let the police terrorize whoever
But mostly black boys, but they would call us "niggers"
And lay us on our belly, while they fingers on they triggers
They boots was on our head, they dogs was on our crotches
And they would beat us up if we had diamonds on our watches
And they would take our drugs and money, as they pick our pockets
I guess that that's the muh privilege of policing for some profit
But thanks to Reaganomics, prisons turned to profits
Cause free labor is the cornerstone of US economics
Cause slavery was abolished, unless you are in prison
You think I am bullshitting, then read the 13th Amendment
Involuntary servitude and slavery it prohibits
That's why they giving drug offenders time in double digits
Ronald Reagan was an actor, not at all a factor
Just an employee of the country's real masters
Just like the Bushes, Clinton and Obama
Just another talking head telling lies on teleprompters
If you don't believe the theory, then argue with this logic
Why did Reagan and Obama both go after Qaddafi
We invaded sovereign soil, going after oil
Taking countries is a hobby paid for by the oil lobby
Same as in Iraq, and Afghanistan
And Ahmadinejad say they coming for Iran
They only love the rich, and how they loathe the poor
If I say any more they might be at my door
(Shh..) Who the fuck is that staring in my window
Doing that surveillance on Mr. Michael Render
I'm dropping off the grid before they pump the lead
I leave you with four words: I'm glad Reagan dead

Subtle.
R(etards) A(ttempting) P(oetry)

Write something more meaning right now freely.

Eat shit, Vogon.

You have come out on the side of American conservatives when it comes to music, art, and taste. Sad!

You never even read my whole post, that's how stupid you are. Btw "pleb" is a newfag meme for retarded kids. Bye

Is ghetto culture still trendy for whites to adopt? I don't think that's really been true since 2006.

[Aaron Burr:]
How does a bastard, orphan, son of a whore and a
Scotsman, dropped in the middle of a forgotten
Spot in the Caribbean by providence, impoverished, in squalor
Grow up to be a hero and a scholar?

[John Laurens:]
The ten-dollar Founding Father without a father
Got a lot farther by working a lot harder
By being a lot smarter
By being a self-starter
By fourteen, they placed him in charge of a trading charter

[Thomas Jefferson:]
And every day while slaves were being slaughtered and carted
Away across the waves, he struggled and kept his guard up
Inside, he was longing for something to be a part of
The brother was ready to beg, steal, borrow, or barter

[James Madison:]
Then a hurricane came, and devastation reigned
Our man saw his future drip, dripping down the drain
Put a pencil to his temple, connected it to his brain
And he wrote his first refrain, a testament to his pain

[Burr:]
Well, the word got around, they said, "This kid is insane, man."
Took up a collection just to send him to the mainland
"Get your education, don't forget from whence you came, and
The world's gonna know your name. What's your name, man?"

[Alexander Hamilton:]
Alexander Hamilton
My name is Alexander Hamilton
And there's a million things I haven't done
But just you wait, just you wait…

[Eliza Hamilton:]
When he was ten his father split, full of it, debt-ridden
Two years later, see Alex and his mother bed-ridden
Half-dead sittin' in their own sick, the scent thick

[Full Company except Hamilton (whispering):]
And Alex got better but his mother went quick

[George Washington (Company):]
Moved in with a cousin, the cousin committed suicide
Left him with nothin' but ruined pride, something new inside
A voice saying, "Alex, you gotta fend for yourself."
He started retreatin' and readin' every treatise on the shelf

[Burr (Company):]
There would've been nothin' left to do
For someone less astute
He would've been dead or destitute
Without a cent of restitution
Started workin', clerkin' for his late mother's landlord
Tradin' sugar cane and rum and all the things he can't afford
Scammin' for every book he can get his hands on
Plannin' for the future see him now as he stands on (ooh…)
The bow of a ship headed for a new land
In New York you can be a new man

[Company (Hamilton):]
In New York you can (just you wait) be a new man
In New York you can (just you wait) be a new man
In New York you can be a new man
[Women:] In New York
[Men:] New York
[Hamilton:] Just you wait!

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Ehy nah you cocksucker. I don't like rap music because it's not experimental enough and I find it really childish and subtle as a-bomb. Just because I don't like something that btw is mainstream as fucked doesn't mean that I have the same taste as the conservatives.

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youtube.com/watch?v=mg9wspT84ak
youtube.com/watch?v=FdVLriC0cQk

Read half of the post, pretty sure it was bait

Absolute pleb.

There's plenty of experimental rap. Dalek, clipping, Shabazz Palaces, Kool Keith, Pharcyde, Death Grips are some good examples. Your opinion on rap is that of somebody who thinks the extent of punk is Green Day or Blink-182. You're just wilfully ignorant on the genre.
Punk was mainstream as fuck at one point. Your criticisms are all basic bitch shit.

Also
This is my main criticism of rap tbh

Obvious butthurt detected. Proves how emotionally unstable they are.

Again, I take back that people only like rap because its trending, but because people have a negative mindset.

Look how stupid the guy in ops second piclooks? Hes probably a middle class suburban kid who heard rap music on Nickelodeon or YouTube and thought that its cool because 1, hes an edgy teenager and 2, hot babes in the music vids.

He probably listens to rap while mommy pays for his internet to post online.

But is it really healthy?


Typical rap lyrics


Ghetto life is bad, its not something to mock.

Also when they say fuck rich people, they mean fuck anyone whos more sucessful than lowlives like thenselves.

Fix your own problems first whiteboi.

I have noticed over time this has become less and less true.

We /mu/ now

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"ghetto mentality" is just african-american proles and lumpen trying to adapt and survive in the conditions that have been forced on them by porky. Things like "ghetto" fashion and music becoming part of popular culture and the economy is probably one of the more blatant examples of culture commodification and destruction by capital in the modern day, with most rap that gets radio time being a slight variation on the primary theme of worshiping the spectacle.

but the modern hood mentality didn't exist 50 years ago. black families had lower illegitimacy rates than whites for a long time. black family units used to be more cohesive. now it's something like 70% of black families are fatherless. that can't be explained simply by the "conditions" they're "forced" into, since those material and legal conditions have actually improved over time, while african american culture has not.

You are just simply wrong on this in every way. If you can't imagine how this came to be you are not thinking hard enough, are speaking from your ass.

By not oppressing them?


Typical rap lyrics are about rapping.

Also how is talking about these conditions mocking? I am not black but lived in quite shitty neighborhoods, these are stories from people who saw similar shit and encountered similar problems, and then made out of the hood. At best you can accuse some rappers of not having a positive approach but talking about selling drugs as a good idea.


Got any sauce on the material conditions improving? The working class wasn't fucked as hard 50 years ago.

How does one measure whether or not "culture" or "family cohesion" has improved? And it is easily explained by the socioeconomic conditions that blacks were forced into, blacks 50 years ago never had to deal with a crack epidemic, chronic unemployment following neoliberal policies, complete absence of groups like the black panthers, or industrial prison complex and other "tough on crime" practices that actually made it harder to go straight.

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lol like it was some disease introduced via blankets or something. blacks know how to "deal" with crack, believe me.

Well I'm gonna roll my eyes but whatever your opinio-
G U L A G

Yeah it wasn't blankets this time, well spotted genius.

anybody comparing rap to pop is fucking blind as hell to the fact that pop music is mostly written and made by rap artists and vice versa. At this point popular rap artists and pop artists run in the same circles… hmm… its almost like any popular music supported by corporate interests is the problem and not the genre itself? Dunno just ASKING QUESTIONS HERE

rap is for cool kids

Blacks never chose to have smaller brains, either.(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)

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Lyrics:
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So Russia and Mongolia are full of blacks? Fascinating.

Considering that inner city communities were hit the hardest by crack and that they suffered the most following the ""war on drugs"" you unintentionally make a good comparison to it being like the plague blankets. Also the modern conditions for blacks weren't in place 50 years ago so of course things weren't as bad then.


holy shit it's as if living in horrible conditions gives one higher chances of seeing and abusing drugs designed to be highly addictive.

I had a racist high school teacher from some northern European country that said "russians are wrong colored blacks" kek

Russia is an ex-communist country with a high Muslim population, Mongolia is still run by the same Mongolia People's Party that was in charge when it was a communist state, though it claims to support social democracy now.

Show me a study that being poor has decreased brain size among native Russians or Mongolians (relative to their wealthier same-race counterparts)? You can't.

Why is there a racial disparity in every single Autism Level-related gene we have discovered? Is mother nature a racist? Oy vey, how evil.

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70% illegitimacy is a pretty good indication it has not
>muh victims of a system
lots of races, such as asian groups, faced similar discrimination 60 years ago, and now are out performing other groups. African people never even developed a written language or basic engineering that bronze-age people had figured out centuries earlier. the differences between races dont end at the overt phenotypes.

By eliminating the material conditions it arises out of. This is basic bitch stuff.

Wow, blacks with good material conditions are still stupid. What a shocker!

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When you look at the poorest 1/5th of whites and blacks and control by AFQT, there is no significant difference in their likelihood to escape poverty, what a shocker!

Explained here by Stephen Hsu, theoretical physicist, yes it is a blog, deal with it
infoproc.blogspot.com/2015/04/income-weath-and-iq.html
The link to the Pew died, but you can see it here at line 48 (pewtrusts)
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And AFQT is highly correlated with I.Q., it's basically an I.Q. test

Like 15%, by what definition is that high? Besides, most live in bumfuckwhere. Most murders and rapes happen in the cities.

Oh shit there are factors outside of blackness?

science.sciencemag.org/content/341/6149/976
It's common sense that poverty is bad for you on every level imaginable.

I didn't mean the Autism Levelmeme though but the amount of rapes (Mongolia) and homicide (Russia), both countries with relatively high Autism Level and low blackness.

Poor whites don't have to deal with constant stress that comes with racism and discrimination.

By European standards, you fucking idiot. The only other European countries with a higher proportion of Muslims are Muslim countries like Albania, and Turkey. Cyprus and Macedonia excepted.


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When you control for I.Q., the poorest 1/5th of blacks and whites are equally likely to escape poverty.

How does it change their stress and discrimination on the way there?

For the sake of argument, I will work with your fake science. Even if blacks in better material conditions are still "stupid", ghetto mentality will still disappear because it stems entirely from negative economic incentives, not stupidity. Even if someone is dumb as a rock, they will not turn to dealing drugs if they already have a steady income.

how do you explain that black children, born in to rich families, still underperform?


Then why do very wealthy black rappers walk around and celebrate ghetto culture? These people are worshipped and make more money than the average white person.

is that you Holla Forums

Rap still has an underground indie scene, by definition pop is entirely corporate

Cause that's their job?

Do they never get outside? Never apply for a job? Never encounter cops?

Being rich won't help you to escape racism, just lower it's power over you.

then your argument breaks down. you said ghetto culture would dissapear if the material conditions do. wealthy black rappers living in Beverly Hills have removed the conditions, yet, they've turned pimping ghetto culture into a living. at this point, they could be talking about improving yourself, treating women better, staying with your family. but they're not.

Explain the mechanism of action here
encounter some racist people -→ ????? —→ low Autism Level

Convince local gangs that the solution to their situation is not in conflict with each other but with porky. Good luck with that thought.

That's I Q, not "autism level". I know the /lp/ mods get nervous around statistics.

Why would they? Their job is to make music that sells. Do you bitch about pop performers making music about their break ups or partying?


Stress. Being in a hostile environment causes stress. Stress is bad for you and lowers your performance. It's fucking common sense and there are hundreds of studies about it, you not knowing it, is a good indicator that you don't give a shit about the topic at hand and simply want to spread silly memes. Why not doing it on Holla Forums?

Because that is their source of income, their brand. Also it's often times a reflection of the material conditions they grew up in. Please go be a brainlet somewhere else.