Just a reminder that Holla Forums and The_Donut are in the process of pushing the phrase "alt-left" since Trump made it mainstream. Most anons at Leftypol argued against the autistic identification with the term for years. We are Marxists, anarchists, etc. with legitimate theoretical and practical differences and a sense of overarching comradery, and not "heil leader" morons who need the safety of an umbrella term that lacks any political nuance.
Since it's obvious that the alt-right won't stop pushing this "u r just like us but worse" agenda I recommend comrades to develop counter-memes, and discuss possible ways to counter being force-branded.
Ignoring the retarded children doesn't make it go away. We need active ideological struggle.
*kills a sparrow*
Blake Watson
They're equating alt-left with the SJWs cretins who pushed alt-left in the first place. I say, let them.
Also
Hudson Torres
I was being serious.
Nobody talks retarded children seriously until they shit themselves.
Joshua Davis
The left doesn't have the sheer deviousness to compete with the right. They can lie and lie and are so well versed at it now that their memes stick.
Samuel Lopez
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Austin Lee
I seriously don't get these points.
Landon Smith
It's Holla Forums
Carson Foster
lol
Ian Edwards
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Alexander Green
You're right, because we're not competing with the trad-right, we're competing with the neoliberal right. Liberals have everyone beaten with the endless fake political theatre.
Wyatt Edwards
serves you fuckers right tbh
same shit happened on the right. only complete retards were self-identified alt-right, even before clinton made the term popular. the biggest idiots jumped on board, while libertarians and conservatives tried stay out of that shitshow.
it will happen to you
nothing you can do about it.
Ian Richardson
I want off this ride
Luke Murphy
Not having retards calling themselves the alt-left can help this trend to die. You should have not only stayes out of that shitshow but attacked thoses who partaked in it. You're lacking sectarianism.
Julian Gomez
you fuckers wouldn't stop with the "alt-right" memes. you wouldn't stop trying to lump the civ-nat autists with Holla Forums. You woudln't stop lazily lumping everyone from conservative republicans to literal Not Socialists into one fabricated, misleading name.
now you reap what you sow.
Dominic Wood
Holy shit man
Zachary Campbell
i'm not taking responsibility for Trump's comments, genius, i'm saying Holla Forums is about to meme Alt-Left so hard you won't be able to escape being lumped into it, like Holla Forums was with the aut-right.
Ryan Davis
NOW RREEAAAPP WHAT YOU SOOOOOWWW
Asher Garcia
Lots of good they're doing you. We've been saying since the liberals tried doing this ages ago that it's not a thing and anyone peddling it looks like a fucking lunatic.
Angel Martin
that's so dramatic and off base it's hilarious. If I ever meet you IRL i'm going to follow you around and work this slam poetry "you reap what you sow" bit into everything I say.
Adam Moore
Once again, the average Holla Forumsyp demonstrates he only gives a fuck about image
Aaron Perez
I don't like the sound of alt left, I do like the sound of ctrl left
Elijah Scott
now you reap what you sow.
Kayden Green
"Hard left" is a way better brand, it is nicely libidinal.
Jace Gonzalez
Control isn't really a good word. What about "shift-left" or "LEFT" for short?
Elijah Smith
UPHOLD CAPS LOCKED LEFTISM
Hudson Rodriguez
I wouldn't worry too much. It feels like it has barely any meme potential, and Trump sounded utterly cornered and frustrated; a far cry from last years heavily focus-tested slogans.
Eli Bennett
fn left
Aiden Wright
lmao come on
Jose Lee
The alt-right didn't really exist until Hillary said it, before that they were a disparate group of people that didn't get along with each other extremely well. With "alt-right" last weeks "unite the right" wouldn't have been able to happen. You can talk about tendencies all you want but are you trying to argue that that Chapo Trap House, Jacobin, DSA and left-activists have as much theory or points-of-unity or seperate "membership" as a that they need to be distinguished from each other all the time? You already have these terms like "irony left" which are not seriously different than "alt-left". Just interested in your thoughts.
Angel Cruz
Richard Spencer coined the term before Hillary even mentioned it.
Lincoln Sanchez
To be fair, the alt-right label was also invented by the mainstream neoliberal centrists to discredit its opposition.
Jason Bell
I don't accept the argument that the alt-right wasn't a moniker forced onto these groups by the press. Breitbart, Alex Jones, Holla Forums, Daily Stormer et al were not all big fans of this Richard Spencer guy and would not have accepted his leadership before that… They probably would have called themselves "Neo-reaction". In fact, I believe (and until a few days ago, I think this was the consensus) that HRC mentioning the phrase alt-right was a mistep and gave these guys a huge boost. The alt-right united groups that were on the right but generally opposed the GOP/neocon consensus. Why is there a resistance to accepting a term that broadly refers to people on the left (CTH, TYT, et al) who reject the DNC/neoliberal consensus?
Benjamin Jones
Hillary and the press gave a boost to Richard Spencer and marginalized everyone else. (It's a misstep if you want to win an election and need to pursue undecideds instead of telling them that voting for your opponent makes you a nazi. It's a misstep if you don't actually want nazis to rise. But they did want nazis to rise to be able to present them as their opponents, and that eventually worked just fine.)
If you want a boost to, say, antifa or BLM at the expense of any meaningful class politics, then go ahead, embrace the label.
Juan Sanchez
del-left, we're the real movement that abolishes the present state of things.