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Did you forget about quorum sensing attacks and genetic engineering attacks on bacteria?

Like seriously… the CRISPR revolution is here. They're already beginning to eradicate certain diseases with it. CF has less than 10 years left on this Earth.

We've got re-usable orbital boosters now. That's a big fucking deal.

Forget to mention this footnote from Capital Volume 1:
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/ch03.htm
That should be enough to show that Marx was consistent in his distinction between labor vouchers and money.

How is it possible to have a sensible discussion about concepts you don't share the definitions of? When it is clear somebody has a different definition, you do understand that arguments working from your personal secret definition don't necessarily make sense to them? Equivocation is a logical fallacy.
If by that you mean that you do understand the money-voucher distinction by Marx, but think that building such a system as a mere legal act would be easily subverted (like paper tokens with declarations about what is not allowed printed on them, enacted without asking how popular the idea is, without any means of checking whether people follow the instructions, nor means of punishing criminals), then you are of course right. But that is not what Marx or Cockshott or anybody in this thread so far has proposed. See above quote. Vouchers are not to be introduced into capitalism. The context for their introduction is society after the expropriation of the means of production by a huge and popular movement.

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sorry, kid. It's neo-Hegelian fascist vaporwave or nothing

He has a point tho, in as much as it's looking increasingly likely that mankind won't live to see the end of capitalism.

Bemp

Fuck off

Does anybody have the image of jimmy dore pointing to cockshott's towards a new socialism?

what makes you so mad?

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