"Are we going to take down statues of George Washington? Thomas Jefferson? You're changing history...

Mt Rushmore has always weirded me out. Imagine if a North Korean started carving the Kim dynasty into the side of the mountain purely of his own volition. We'd call him brainwashed.

A term invented by Clintonite to discredit Berniecrats because they are the "True left".

Kinda ironic since the fash called themselves the alt-right to get away from being fashy.

You will not replace us.

Typical whataboutism, same with ukranian fascists trying to take down soviet monuments, and illusion of neutrality to ultimately support the reactionary agenda.

You are being replaced by a clone of Outkast as we speak

I feel like Trump here is trying to goad the American Left into a false debate. The Founders, whatever their faults, were revolutionaries who were progressive for their time whereas the confederate leaders were reactionaries who killed around a million people in their struggle to stop change.

I've actually been there before. I found it boring & dreary.

leftypol is. They larp leftism and wouldn't be able to pick a side if they found themselves in revolutionary Russia in 1918 without getting their brains splattered. All books no goals. Should be renamed to /altleftypol/.

Invented by the republicans to distract from the WS in the white house

I would support Col. Biederman of the 18th Regiment, actually, look it up. Real honor.

Christ almighty he's just doubling down on this garbage.

Liberals

not possible
american ""culture"" is pure trash, it should be changed

Taking down statues has nothing to do with fascism, you brain dead alt-commie.

You're really reaching to tug off Trump's choad even if he spits in your face don't you

You like the shame

I can smell the sweat

You really don't think taking down statues is a political act with political connotations. No statue has been taken down in the name of the Centre.

We're taking down Baron Trump next. He will be disassembled by August 21st, and this, I promise you

Trump is absolutely right.

This is a time honored Southern Tradition, what is Trump talking about?

Since when is any display of politics fascism? Whole Earth is swimming in fascism or what?

That alt-lefty has no idea what he's talking about. Spouting disjoint headline phrases without giving any proper thought. Posting for the sake of posting.

Thanks for the cute name, I'm bored and lonely tonight haha

I hope the entire national mall is leveled one day, yes.

Retarded

And this is a promise, Baron Trump will be flash fried in a bowl of hot boiling oil, and there will be spilt water, and the flesh will be engorged, in, such, flames , that I've never seen

Wow rude
He is still a kid, he is innocent

mods, if you don't start banning liberal idpolers like this, this board is doomed.

He's a part of American History now

The worst part about Trump is that he have maybe the most loyal base of all presidents, sure he have 35% max of approval rate, but this 35% will defend this fucker even if he rape a newborn.

This is why we don't want you vile brown ooga boogas in our nations.

Are you a vegetarian, then? What makes eating dogs so much worse than eating pigs or cows?

You're such a silly thot

Holla Forums, we already know that you're not white.

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Not him but honestly i just think that gooks torture them too much before eating, like they beat alive dogs to tender the meat with is pretty bad
There is nothing wrong with killing animals for food, just dont do it with unnecessary cruelty

Do it. Would make for some delicious Holla Forums salt.

Yeah! Manly! Murica!
How could youuuuuuuuuu ;_;

Fuck you. The Trumps are our Romanovs.

I'm going to throw up live bombs at statues of George Washington like a giant piranha plant

White people have respect for lower animals that is the reason you ooga boogas are still alive.

Jesus Christ Holla Forums, if this is your way of conveying you getting BTFO in Charlottesville?

I agree with your point but factory farms in the west can be pretty fucking cruel

They've tolerated Holla Forums for this long, haven't they

Then again, they've tolerated Holla Forums this long.

Not at all. It fits this place partially well. Book worms that get neither pussy nor class warfare going. The people here can't apply their knowledge in practice. There's no goal to rally more people, to get reddit, twitter cooperating somehow. They'd pretend dead if transported to any revolutionary time.

There's a report button, dummy.

When push comes to shove we know that Holla Forums would warp themselves to supporting Angela, Germany, and the EU

t. "Israel is our greatest ally!"

Well most of it is done mechanically and quickly, pigs get electrocuted or just put in coma for eg.
I mean EU regulates this stuff pretty heavily

He has more support than what polls shows, even if all right-wingers aren't trumpists there's a conservative majority that supports his policies. Mainstream american politics are so to the right now, that Trump isn't really that outside of the norm.

and I used it already. still nothing.

Excuse me? Dude I am swimming in pussy right now

Then go to the mod log, ya dingus

Apefrica and Australia is still crawling with ooga boogas wtf are you talking about?

What if we just got a rock and hit Trump in the head with a rock

And Europe is still crawling with Jews. I guess it goes to show the power of the """master race""""". You dumb cunts lived in white supremacist societies for centuries, and you were STILL unable to finish the job.

Edgy much?

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Mods see through your bullshit, alt-lefty. They probably feel depressed this place is so unproductive.

Take your meds, schizo.

I don't try to cut wood with a hammer either.

Report me to the justice department like SA reported the guy who threatened Obama

Let's go, fuck it, all out

I smell envy

My pleasure

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Yes our respect for lower forms is the only reason you animals are still around we've been over this.

I'm a part of American history now, I cannot be destroyed, haha fooled you

America has no history

I guess not all white people think alike. Either that or you just admitted that you're larping as someone who isn't even white.

I think it does, I think we should protect our heroes and villains, personally

friendly reminder that early democrats (confederacy) who were associated with the KKK put up those statues
not the KKK themselves, KKK never had any real power besides influence

part of confederacy later*

This doubling down is pretty interesting to see for two reasons.

One, there is no real strategic long term benefit in dog whistling white nationalist/neo-nazi supporters any more. They are for now a very small percent of the US population, with maybe less than than half of Trumps voters being strenuous sympathisers, mostly out of despising the appearance of radical leftism. Instead this alienates mainstream Republicans even more against him, since inevitably there will be far right violence after this.

Secondly, the Bannon strategy of polarization is extremely dangerous for American democracy. (not that I care about it). It seems the strategy involves in pitying two extremely radical groups against each other, until the party of white, middle-class, rural voters becomes wholly aligned with the far-right. But of course Bannon in his folly thinks the alt-right neo-nazies will act like a non-violent tea party protest, when empirically it has been shown that they will not evolve into that.

Really, if I was American I would question why I have not moved from that country right now.

Let's based on what we have, we can't say that something is bigger if there isn't any kind of proof

What is glorifying slavery Alex.

"Behold! A meme!"

Daily Mail has our back.

This is indeed a disturbing universe

I have considered it.

Speaking of Bannon, Trump is being pressured to fire him by the end of the week.

Considering today's statement, I don't think he has any intention of doing that.

SHOOK

Wait a sec didnt Bannon say that he is a leninist?
I Thought that he was /ourguy/

wow what a great relief, the MSM have "our" back, this would be great if anyone still take them seriously.

The Daily Mail is a fairly right wing tabloid, known for its hysterical headlines about immigrants and crime. That they take an editorial stance against Trump here is surprising and worth note.

Take down the statues, yes. Destroying art and artifacts is what ISIS does though. The statues belong in a museum. They absolutely don't belong on display in public spaces though.

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Holy shit I think I know this guy. If it's him I can't say I'm surprised at all.

God how can anyone stand this asshole's face

It looks like a constant screech

knock him out plase

you know what to do, user

Please knock some sense into him

Any cultural revolution in America will still be extremely reactionary

Fair, but I still think that this will bring nothing, maybe if Fox News denounces him then we can talk about consequences, but right now is just gonna be Trump vs MSM.

Look fam, I'm all for removing that shit. But it's important to preserve and understand history, and that includes recognition of shitty people as being just as human as everyone else. Humans who made and erected statues to mourn their dead..

Tell us more about him, please.

ofc

Nah fuck those confederate statues

wasn't mt rushmore a sacred site for some indian tribe? 100% give it back to them

It was. They're trying to make a parallel monument to Crazy Horse, and have been for years. It's partially carved.

They never get the help involved on the same level the US Government used to make Rushmore

Statues aren't about any of that, they're built on admiration and respect for the persons and events being immortalized.

People and events who deserve no admiration or respect in this case. You don't see statues to Nazis in Germany.

That, and they also serve as little shrines to white supremacy, since the Confederacy was a state built on the subjugation of blacks in service to whites. It's no coincidence that most of these were erected in the height of Jim Crow.

Tear them all down. And then, I agree with Trump, we should tear down monuments to the rest of the pantheon slave owners, bourgeoisie and imperialists.

Not sure it's him so nothing identifying, but if it is
I've seen him once or twice since high school. Never associated with him much.

Yes.

Yes absolutely OP. Because not glorifying certain dark aspects of our history is totally = to changing/erasing history.

Fucking idiot

Good luck when they come for you bro.

Tear down all confederate statues, melt them, and turn them into statues of William T. Sherman

Neither of these posts address my points, but I'll address yours.

The statue in question wasn't in memory of anyone specific. It was dedicated to the dead soldiers on the Confederate side. Soldiers who were mostly conscripted. The only people who could have moved to the side of the US Civil War that they supported ideologically were rich people. I agree we shouldn't have these statues on public display in the context of glorifying them. But actively destroying harmless historical artifacts is bottom-shelf babboonery. The statues are useful lesson when presented in the appropriate historical context. I'll emphasize again how important it is to humanize the absolute worst of us to remind people that there's nothing fundamentally different between us and Nazis or Confederates. It's the same reason why we have Holocaust museums.

Thanks. I try

These two Facebook mom memes really shook me, i changed my mind about this

what percent of slaves were black again?

is this even a question, of course

I wouldn’t take down a Robert E Lee statue, but I would build plenty of Eugene Debs.

There weren’t any Nazbols at the protest. The Nazbols stayed home.

Mt.Rushmore needs to be rechiseled with pictures of Marx, Eagles, Lenin, and Stalin.

Why is he so damn anti-intellectual
Is he legitimately that stupid or does he just cleverly use deceitful rhetorics

not an argument.
if anything, blacks were less oppressed than now since only 1% of them are landowners.

I'm glad you speak for the blacks

not surprised

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The right was the one chimping out because they were moving them to a museum. I could careless either way if they are destroyed, since they have no practical use value to me. If I want to know about history, I'll read a book instead of staring at useless statue. If you don't move them somewhere that's out of the public sphere, don't expect them not to be defaced. Not everyone cares about whether the soldier fought for the wrong side because of conscription or because he actually cared about the cause. The result is the same. Hell, there were Nazis that disagreed with the cause that were conscripted into service.

That's not even the argument you should be using. You should be arguing that slavery was good because slaveowners had an incentive to treat the slaves better than the laborers they just hired temporarily, because of the investment. Even that's beside the point. Slavery in any form is bad. Doesn't matter if you're nominally someone's property, if you signed a contract, or if you're working by the hour based on a handshake.

if you're going to make a claim then post a fucking source, not a demotivator poster.

I'm pro this idea.

focused on taking down statues is a stupid, stupid idea and exactly what Trump and the alt right want at this moment. escalation, an isolated left that can be tarred as 'anti american' .

Almost all of this was proven a historical exaggeration. Or bullshit.

I think the situation is far too gone for that merger defense.

Source it

Why are you coming here and not making a twitter you dumb bitch

the internet isn't great for nuanced strategy. people forget politics isn't just about 'owning' the enemy and making them mad online.

Nah I know about this, it was.

Cite

but I would

That's not accurate and you know it. Hitler was the founding father of Israel.

You, you dumb kike

you, you dumb kike

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Yeah let me tell you, uncle Jo was such a jew lover, hoo boy.

ha. retard.

You are. How does it feel?

Well, they are a sign of occupation.
It's not like you aren't guilty of changing culture and history yourself.

apparently there is now the idea spread by the right of "equal guilt"

to make reality match this spun narrative, shouldn't the left then at least get actually even and murder at least one of them while injuring a dozen more?

Israel didn't exist until 1948 though

Unironic anti-anglo gang when?

Well Holla Forums, are you?

Yes

Only if we deport the settler-colonialists afterwards.

That or rebuilding minority communities with white slaves and then exterminating them. Either or.

Why wouldn't we want to change culture so that racists won't be able to divide the working class?

Those are child laborers and reactionaries didn't give a shit about them either.

We are the alt-left. I like the term we should use it.

Irish were muh privileged compared to Natives, Blacks or Mexicano proles. They were slowly incorporated into the settler population, that's why they don't complain.

How about we just leave nature the fuck alone instead of carving glorified penises all over it.

Fine I’ll leave North America, but everyone who isn’t pure blood Native American has to leave to.

how do you feasably take that down tho?
Unless you have access to a bazooka or smth

National Bolshevism

So blacks are going to be enslaved as well then? Pretty sure Africa is on the other side of the Atlantic, making them settlers as well.

Blacks built the country, literally with their sweat & blood. They have more of a claim than the settler population.

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That's literally what a "settler" does. By your logic the European Israelis would be able to keep their little ethnostate because they themselves "built" it.

nah, unrelated guys
the alt right however did shoot up many more
still far from getting even
something like plowing through a ticki torch fest would be more fitting

Are Chinese rail workers historical revisionism or something?

Difference being that Afrikans were brought here.

White Marxists get the bullet too.

They didn't but okay.

Only in the South. White Indentured Servants built the North. Also isn’t the point of Decolonization removing people who settled, which includes blacks.

They were brought here when slavery was "legally" abolished. Chinese were a super-exploited proletarian body as well.

Please read Marx before you use the word Marxist.

Wew its getting awfully reddit in here.

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It's just Holla Forums dude calm down. They role play as idpolers all the time.

In politics, there's no running from the zionists, dude. Live with it.

But I never claimed to be a Marxist.

Also I’m not an ethnonationalist, I’m a Civic nationalist who likes Stalin.

300 different things because ever since 'alt-right' became a thing people keep "coining" 'alt-left' without bothering to check if somebody else did it first.

If Hitler was god-tier then why did he lost WW2.

Poe's law man. Its hard because I've heard hardcore SJWs say this shit IRL, and its so retarded it hurts my brain

Slavery was still massively used in the North.

That's not accounting for Indian slavery, of course.

Have some Engels:

"The truth is this: during the period of England's industrial monopoly, the English working classes have, to a certain extent, shared in the benefits of monopoly. These benefits were very unequally parcelled our amongst them; the muh privileged minority pocketed most, but even the great mass had, at least, a temporary share now and then. And that is the reason why, since the dying out of Owenism, there has been no socialism in England. "

Blacks were exploited by a select few who hold all the wealth today.
That wealth was not used for building the country, it was used to leverage interests

Race & class, at least the West, reinforce each other & are bound up together.

so he won by fleeing to argentinia?
is that considered winning? well that explains alot about trump-fags

What's all that I hear about about
white
suicide
rates

Yeah, I'm sure almost all of the actually existing left is just Holla Forums, bruh.

Settlers style leftism has been dead for a while now. Personally I think Obama and the emergence of the non-white bourgeoisie in America (and elsewhere) made it irrelevant.

Jews are largely settler-colonialists too, at least in the context of the US & Israel.

Say that to the Trump presidency. Trump is the epitome of the settler ideology.

At the end of the day hitler was just another typical white guy who committed suicide for his regrets in life

Also for the record, Hitler was only 5'6

Obama wasn't black, btw. Marginalized groups lose that status when they join rank with the oppressor class.

Destroying the statues of the founding fathers over what? Over idpol? Is this the bottom of the fucking barrel? We become liberal this easy?

I agree. That's why I tell proles to claim that they are "black" on all college/law/graduate/medical school applications.

I’m a Northerner, who studies history and I know that isn’t true.

We'll replace them with Stalins.

Destroying symbols of reaction are a good thing.

Why do you care about sucking the founding fathers' cocks?

yea that's liberalism or fascism bruh. But yea could you show me on the IWW, DSA, PSL, fuck any actual leftist organizations website were it says "All white marxists get the bullet", as you mentioned earlier? I'd love to see that

Someone hasn't been doing too good in school if they aren't looking at the Dutch foundation of New York, then.

They're not even from the Civil War era, they were put up by a bunch of butthurt white supremacists after the civil rights movement.

Nothing in America is art.

Burn it all down.

This. I don't mind putting actual confederate artifacts in museum, but not this racist shit.

I don't care about destroying statues. I care about tactics and converting more people as possible. This won't work. The left in america will always be connected with idpol andch antifa. All this over a dead liberal. I lost hope in the us comrades. Hope this came back to bite you in the ass. Fucking americans

Nationalisty =/= race. Eagles said English people, not whites. The English oppresed the Celts, a diffrent group of white people.

So rich black people are oppressors. Then by that logic poor whites are oppressed.

I got an A in history. The Dutch in New York was a snapshot of history, barely relevant to the North when it had POLITICAL independence.

Stalinist showing his true colors.

This whole statue issue seems like a big distraction and waste of energy

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The Chad should be Yukio Mishima

That's true, but monuments go up long after the history happened. At 50th, 75th, 100th anniversaries to commemorate the event. We are still building monuments to WWI. I agree with tearing these statues down though, because we commemorate things for specific reasons; monuments are not passive records of history. There are places in our culture to record history that are not these kinds of icons.

no. they are idpol. and it'd be idpol not to talk about slavery as a class issue while taking them down. but down they need to go nevertheless.
that other faggot stache poster needs to off himself

I see your point but I've also seen liberals trying to take down battle monuments that list people who died in battle in a specific spot. Many of those were erected by survivors who wanted to commemorate their friends.

I'm not implying anything different. I feel like it would be a bigger effort to fight against the systems of oppression rather than the mere symbols but then again I understand the argument that you have to get at both. The problem for the left is that if the left actually get baited to take down the Founding fathers they would lose traction with Americans. The left is growing fast and they need to not fuck up over some stupid bullshit

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Merca in a nutshell

taking down monuments of tsarism and the fascists were good, it's what you make out of it that matters

taking down idpol isn't idpol you dunce

It isn't. If anything, other issues are big distractions from this countries deeply ingrained racism.

Good yugo poster.

Good. Explain to a normie why ukrainian nationalist shouldn't take down lenin statues then. I'll wait.

bad people can do good things, broken clocks etc

i bet his advisors told him to use "alt-left." fucking breitbart-reading retards

taking down monuments of tsarism and the fascists were good, it's what you make out of it that matters
taking down idpol isn't idpol you dunce

what ukrainian nationalists do will happen anyway and does not negate that it will be done and has to be done
the interpretation and spreading your narrative, so basic agitprop work is what you need to do
not fucking cry about it you little wannabe ML bitch

Taking down lenin statues was good then?

It's 100% Steve Bannon.

This is no need to worry about anyone tearing down a statue of a President right now. This is the era of Hamilton: The Musical for peet's sake.

There are literally billions of them so I guess a few won't hurt lol. Why do you care so much about statues? What a strange materialist thing

by any chance this will backfire Trump ? (A backfire that can really hurt him)

Well he basically admitted to wanting to keep Jim Crow era "culture" in place, so there's that.

Yes, a huge chance.

A few more people have jumped off the Trump manufacturing council today after the press conference. It def hurt him a good deal. The spin is in full gear trying to recoup the damage.

God's not 5'6

Sure, they were both slavers and killed millions of Native Americans. We're not liberals pol.

Why do you think that is strange?

I used to think President Trump was going to easily make it to 2020 because he would always have passive/GOP supporters and fence-sitters, but in my own personal life I've seen this event and his handling has actually changed people's minds more than NYT exposes ever could.

These graphs are hilarious because half the time they either aren't real or they cite studies that the person posting them never bothered to read.

it looks like it would have been part of a bigger picture but they got lazy and gave up. i dont know why someone would travel to see it in person

he condemned both sides as both sides were in the wrong.
this some how hurts him.

Literally what come out of this? Le founding ebil racist fathers?
Pic related are things builted by a real fascist, Mussolini. Should I tear down such important artistic and cultural landmarks because mussolini this is fascist art??? What comes out of it? Nothing, Destruction is destruction. Erasing landmarks means erasing a part of your identity. Reminder that this was mussolini. Now let's go to america. As much as I hate your fucking country, you got no fucking reason to tear those statues down. No fucking reason. Founding fathers at the time were revolutionaries fighiting against british imperialism. Now you are telling me that they were not good because they owned slaves? What the fuck. What the fuck. This is idpol. This shit right here is fighting over idpol. No class struggle, No grand scheme. It's just tearing down statues of what I consider racist because a racist drove into a crowd and killed 1 liberal skank. This is bullshit. Even if you defeat the aut right, neo nazi and bullshit how do you think it will end? There will be a revolution? You are gonna overthrow the gorverment? No you ain't gonna do shit. You are not fighting over nothing but few racists rednecks. You guys took the irl b8.

its just the sat scores

Agreed, we can't expect to get over a racially charged past in one night. But the question is that after we take down the statues how are we going to rid ourselves of this deeply ingrained racism? By removing more statues and getting two retarded camps to brawl in the street and dividing up more people against each other over superficial bullshit. Granted, school integration was no cake walk and we still feel the effects from that

You are comparing cheap monuments placed by the admirers of a long dead regime to historical monuments. you are a massive idiot. These statues aren't the fucking Parthenon or something get you head out of your ass.

the left can sometimes meme.

And where are the links to said SAT scores and in what context is this information given in? Do you realize a lot of people of all races do not even take the SAT?

And this were you are fucking wrong, because fascist art is all a cheap version of roman art. So it's the exact fucking thing.

He didn't condemn the alt-right the first time and his follow up was a basically him outright saying he's just doing this to make the Fake News people happy. Americans don't care if he condems antifa either way.

As a person who studies art I can tell you right now they have p much nothing to do with each other. The Confederacy did not build these monuments, nor did most of their descendants. These are modern things built by modern people. If you can't tell the difference between historical art and revisionist history then you are blind as hell.

working class solidarity is the best way to get rid of racism. remember, jim crow laws were a ruling class reaction against interracial workers' movements. This is a well documented fact.

After all that, next stop is statue of liberty for not being multicolored!

Lol you p dumb. Yet again they are not removing historical monuments, they are removing white nationalist imagery installed during the times of race strife and usually moving it to a place where it will have context. If it is historical it'll get placed in a museum or in a park dedicated to the civil war alongside union soldier statues. If it is not historical and serves no purpose it will get auctioned off or melted down.

I hate this guy but I love this guy.

they are sat scores of 1995, look them up id say
Are you sure as America has a lot of races. how would that matter any way or be any argument

If these statues were done by confederate citizens or soldiers they are automatically protected under federal and state laws that preserve historical monuments and art. As it stands almost none of these statues qualify for it as they were installed between the period of 1925-2014

Yeah, there is a obvious fucking difference. Your sucks mine is rad. Not the point here. The point here is: Let's destroy statues. Why?
Why white nationalist imagery is important now? Belive it or not you are governed by people who couldn't care less about white nationalism

It was interesting seeing capitalists trying to play this down.

you would still find something to complain about if he resigned

who made it white nationalist? its american!!
Why do you have to label so much?

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Probably, but this is about if he is going to lose GOP support over it. Which is happening right now.

Because some savages just destroyed it im guessing.
Who says its white nationalist ?

The New Left was a broad political movement mainly in the 1960s and 1970s consisting of educators, agitators and others in Western world who sought to implement a broad range of reforms on issues such as civil rights, gay rights, abortion, gender roles, and drugs, in contrast to earlier leftist or Marxist movements that had taken a more vanguardist approach to social justice and focused mostly on labor unionization and questions of social class.

White nationalists made it white nationalist. You think the KKK just formed yesterday on twitter and youtube? The orgs that put up these damn things are the exact same people who put hoods on and talk about SAT test scores between the races lol.

So no fucking reason? You guys are literally going hand to hand with liberals just for the lulz?

Didn't say in what time frame, did I? Most of the earlier colonial labor force was Indian slave labor.

Poor whites aren't oppressed because they gain a net benefit from imperialism.

Bet your teacher was white.

honestly who cares if niggers are dumb lmao. capitalists will replace us all with robots and kill us if they ever get the chance.

That wasn't any less true of any other president. Neocons sucked George W. Bush's dick without shame, liberals were willing to ignore just about anything Obama did.

It's been tried, hasn't worked. Working class whites defended Jim Crow, by and large.

If I ever become dictator of a country I'll ban idpol. Seriously, dead penality for saying shit like this. And I'm not even a tankie

I bet robots make real good SAT scores, I wonder how all the racialists will do against a good robot.

Sounds like something a labor aristocrat would say.

Fun thing is that I'm half east asian and half european. Technically I'm fucking master race

So do poor blacks who live in the west.

Yes, just like termites change culture.

Sounds like something a nigger redditor reactionary idpoler liberal cocksucker would accuse me of

Does Settlers ever address this shit or is it too idealist? Seems like a huge problem.

No, he will gain support if anything. The media attempting to make him look bad will only strengthen support for him among middle America(which is the only place that matters during elections).

Not on average.

I see a lot of buzzwords for "people I don't like" but no arguments

I'll concede that point. Whites in the 1st world have no revolutionary potential, while blacks have at least some inclination to rebel against the state.

Then why are you statistically unhealthy ?

msu.edu/~renn/RHE-_mixed_race.pdf
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1448064/
content.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1993074,00.html
sociobiologicalmusings.blogspot.ca/2011/10/problems-with-mixed-race-marriages-and.html
nature.com/scitable/topicpage/haldane-s-rule-the-heterogametic-sex-1144
majorityrights.com/weblog/comments/alon_ziv_on_race_mixing/

IQ of offspring shifts towards the average for the race.
humanvarieties.org/2013/04/18/iq-regression-to-the-mean-the-genetic-prediction-vindicated/
books.google.co.uk/books?id=BMXVZzvLXz8C&printsec=frontcover#v=onepage&q&f=false

“Adolescents who identify themselves as mixed race are at higher health and behavior risk than those of 1 race.” Indeed, even when controlling for education, socioeconomic status, and other factors, there is an across-the board higher rate of health risks amongst mixed race adolescents than mono-racial adolescents.
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1448064/

Black-White children have family incomes similar to those of Black families, similar rates of fatherlessness as Black families, and are more likely than BOTH Whites AND Blacks to engage in risky behaviors like drinking, fighting, stealing, and doing drugs.
nber.org/papers/w14192

White-Asian children are twice as likely as Asians to have mental illness.
eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2008-08/uoc--baa081108.php

White-Black babies suffer higher risks of prematurity, low birth weight, neonatal death, and stillbirth.
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2867623/
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15994621

”When it comes to engaging in risky/anti-social adolescent behavior, however, mixed race adolescents are stark outliers compared to both blacks and whites.” This holds true despite being raised in similar environments to mono-racial children.
www.msu.edu/~renn/RHE-_mixed_race.pdf

It was written in the 60's, so it's a bit dated by now, even if the core arguments are sound.

Nice codeword for "white Amerikans".

Was part of Comrade Sanders' infrastructure plan :(

Ok, white americans.

Afro get the fuck out of here. It's the same stalin stash that is posting day and night for 3 days trying to save this fucking board from destruction. I'm tired of repeting the same fucking argoument over and over again.

Varg confirmed that I'm master race, my cock works, pussy thinks that I'm hot
Nothing else matter

Trump is a fucking retard. He thinks he had the upper hand backing nazis. He's only losing more poll numbers attacking us. As if people in this country even give a shit about these statues other than some nazi larpers.

Oke :)

Just like he was going to lose during the election, right?

It was published in 1983. It's just new left butthurt at the fact that no one in the west wanted to bother with leftism once it stopped being Stalinist.

As a complete book. It was a paper long before.

Speaking of which, funny how all the notable ML's were people Holla Forums would accuse of being "idpol".

I actually saved all those links. I'm gonna read them tomorrow. I was joking about the master race part, but when I read you pic it kind of scared me. Seriously how do you know about that stuff man

If he keeps this shit up it won't fucking matter. As bad as the public are they aren't supporting white supremacists murders who Trump is defending.

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General public either don't see this as a white supremacist act of terror or they rationalize it.

To much time on my hands during working ours, i watch docus

Sakai later denounced the book and said islamists and hindu nationalists were equivalent to the KKK and nazis

Altering the facts of the incident to advance your agenda doesn't make said altered facts true.

The truth is that a legally protected political rally occured, leftist protesters got chimped out over it and the end result was their group getting run over.

Trump was defending american values, simple as that.

Yeah and it was maoist garbage back then too. It spawned a generation of activists who thought that collaboration with the non-white bourgeoisie was an acceptable way to develop resistance and even revolutionary consciousness. They were fucking wrong which is why the American left is basically dead now.

So?

Even you're not dumb enough to believe that. That scared pussy ran those people over in his car because he knew he had lost.

So you're admitting that leftists started a violent riot at a legally held political rally which ended in them getting run over.

You can't run people over for jaywalking user. I know you don't get out much but damn try to at least live like a non-virgin once in a while.

Or maybe, just maybe, it's because white workers are racist.

Who gives a shit if the left started it. You are going to try and take the moral high ground defending fucking nazis. Lolol

looked like he was just running to me, there was a car crash before him on the same spot. and the red car also drove in to ppl and tactfully hit them he just drove faster, i really dont know what to think of it

That's not what I wrote, I wrote that they started a violent riot which resulted in them getting run over.

The law gives a shit, american values give a shit, the constitution gives a shit. You don't get to riot over speech you don't like so long as people who believe in the rule of law and the constitution exist.

Attempting to alter facts to create propaganda against your ideological enemiies is unacceptable but it's not surprising coming from people who idolize communists who did exactly that.

*actually ,

spellings control messed me up

lol

The last doesn't say you can indiscriminately kill people because someone else beat you up before you got to your car.

Go cry somewhere else. You lost defending murders.

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The SAT is garbage. The ACT at least attempts to look legitimate.

I'm not crying, in fact all the crying I have seen over the past few days has been from leftists.

As a pro-tip for you protesting future events, if you create a climate of violence expect to get killed.

I wouldn't expect any less from a nazi.

Pity that most of them weren't actually ML.

I guess its fun to say edgy shit like that i agree with him but god damn there's a difference between joking around with friends or on an anonymous imageboard and "ironically" trying to start a Nazi masturbation fantasy.

Please kill more white women Holla Forums. Holy shit please do. You have no idea how scared that makes the left. We would basically stop functioning if you did it enough, especially if it was very public.

Doesn't that suggest they did know a protest was taking place? Even if they didn't know initially? I mean you would have to be basically retarded to get up to a crowd of people with flags and chanting related to political shit and not figure out its a protest immediately.
What is this video supposed to show? The guy drives his car into a group of people and it confirms that.

I'm jewish so it's unlikely you will see me at such an event, I'm simply stating that if you start violence don't be surprised when violence comes back to you, in addition don't be surprised when you're held accountable for it which is what's happening in spite of the media attempting to whitewash it.

I will say, I would probably support them in a war verse the protesters, they may say antisemitic stuff but when it comes to israel I am confident after properly educating them, they will support us over the arab hordes.

it's not like they're pathological liars controlled by stormcunts who won't give a fuck about your love for anime and video games when the time comes for the final Final Solution

before he turned in those streets with ppl in it he didnt know there would be ppl there smacking his car. 2 cars are shown here tha already crashed in to that same crowd

t. Holla Forums

Trump really has destroyed Holla Forums utterly, hasn't he?

No one cares. We're not liberals and this isn't reddit. Also being a jew who supports reactionaries makes you a fascist zionist piece of shit anyways. Most people here will hate you more for that.

I'm OK being hated by communists. I'm OK being hated by Nazis although todays "Nazis" aren't really the same as the past, after some degree of education most are fairly reasonable and lack the fanaticisim of the Germans(who in my opinion are mentally ill as a people).

I am a zionist and the goals of zionists and white nationalists arent much different.

What? It looks like they just stopped. Also he didn't get smacked in his car until he started driving you know, within arms length of the people.
The length of that street is more than enough for him to have hit the brakes unless he was speeding, and if he turned a corner its highly unlikely he was going high speeds.

Of course you're okay with Nazis now. You are the Nazis now.

Nazi is an incorrect label and has been inappropriatly used to describe any form of racist.

The thing is, it's possible to hold a variety of views and come to some form of middle ground instead of ideological absolutism we saw with the Germans in the 1930s and now with the leftists in western countries.

I am racist and I believe certain genetic groups/races/ethnics are better but I also believe that people should be treated kindly when possible while maintaing the above beliefs

As an example I wouldn't generally allow immigration of foreigners without proper racial background but I also would be willing to provide aid to africa so long as they follow my advice with regards to population reduction.

The sad thing about the Nazis is they were half right but what they got wrong destroyed everything.

you are a genuine fucking retard and I wish some nazi cunt smashes your head after you give him a blowie

Looks like the nazis missed one.

I stay out for one day and Trump legitimizes the alt-left meme. So now SJWs have memed in existence both the mysogyharassterrorist mob of Gamergate and the alt-left.

Aren't liberals the one forcing the alt-left meme?

>>>/twitter/

Don't worry, I'm sure our journalists and media people will find a way to sink even lower than him.

The train station is fucking beautiful, but please do tear the other two down, they're hot garbage.

It's not as hard to get something like that as you'd think. It's probably not legal but.

Bernie just BTFO the whole idea of the alt-left. /ourguy/

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It's almost like communists hate liberals or something.

Maybe rappel down from above with climbing equipment, use a small sledge to smash the faces as best you can, then go to jail for 20 years (wild guess, I don't know how much you would get for defacing something considered to be a "monument"). Anyway, it would be difficult.

fuck em. Monuments are generally hero worship-y bullshit. I only care insofar that I can respect the individuals that labored to build them, or as far as the statues are art.

You don't need to tell us that.

Except for Paine, the Founding Fathers were shit.

Stop being antisemitic.

It's the proper way to deal invaders, it's exactly how America and Europe should handle their immigrant problem.

Absolutely disgusting, you should be ashamed

can you take a picture of your hands? I want to see the blood of Palestinians on them

lmao what a bootlicker

While capitalism encourages the importation of cheap labor, these people would be attempting invasion regardless. As long as they perceive their future standard of living as higher here then where they came from, they will come.

The only way to stop it is through force and if they do get here they need to be kept away from the general population.

My God I thought it wasn't possible to be this much of a fucking wop

who cares? just pieces of metal and stone
who cares?
if it was part of the geo-political entity that u live ins culture to cut one of ur nuts of would u do it?
"muh coltcha" is just a shallow plea to tradition

A bullshit term come up with by Centrist and DNC shills on social media to discredit something even as benign as even just Libs who want a non "status quo but minor advances on social issues" platform from the political class in America. They try to equate something as much of a no-brainer as pushing for some type of universal healthcare as being some radical left version of the aut-right. Politics being automatically skewed more conservative in America means their brains break when even confronted with people wanting SocDem style reformism, let alone actual revolutionary leftists.

Just immediately drops all pretense when he's about to get rocked. Do these dipshits think this kind of LARPIng doesn't have consequences not only for their ability to function in normal society but also to not get smacked around when folks who aren't playing around show up?

I'm amazed that he even knows all of his children

This is the first time ive ever seen that, where is it?

idk man it looks pretty epic. I kinda want them to keep it up.

Is there even one? There should be.

I don't want to get all "le drumpf" about this. But I bet he couldn't define capitalism.

I'm certain he couldn't. Liberals aren't wrong when they point out how dumb the man is, they're just obsessed with making fun of only him.

I don’t know. I’m not going to read it for a long time.There’s more important stuff for me to read like Bookchin.

What was Occupy. Also when looking at Bernie Sander’s voting demographics whites tended to vote for him, while blacks voted Clinton because of the black church.

that’s a flat-out lie

Most white people I know aren’t rascist.

My inner anti-American says I'd rather tear down the founding fathers than the confederate leaders.

We must critically support the CSA in their battle against American imperialism.

Would look good if it was Marx, Engels and Lenin.

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Trump is truly a fucking moron. I don't fully understand what the point of this could have possibly been. Either he just couldn't contain himself any longer and said what he felt was the case, or he believes that support for the white supremacists is integral to keeping the support of his base. His base is not predominantly white supremacists, they are a tiny minority of the population clearly. Right republicans clearly have sympathies with white nationalists and their attitudes towards multiculturalism, but they won't cape for real white supremacism.

So why defend these fascists?

Because then the news cycle is focused on whatever stupid thing he said instead of what social and material forces produced the alt-right, antifa, etc, and what brought them to Charlottesville, and what these various groups of people want.

On Good Morning America this morning (or the morning show on NBC, whatever it is) they spent ten minutes wringing their hands about Trump "defending Nazis" and five more minutes after lamenting how these poor CEOs on Trump's economic council are in such a tough spot because they "don't want to deal with these political issues." Nevermind that any given company's stance on Nazis shouldn't be controversial or even in question.

It's just more superfluous shoot for the news to talk about instead of anything that actually matters.

Your identity changes all the time. What inherent good is there in any particular identity? Isn't that something we evaluate all the time? What constitutes the "identity" of a nation, and why is the "identity" something that should be protected unconditionally?

The identy only changes if the people do, History doesn't just evaporate and the culture that evolved out of it doesn't either. They are simply trying to justify the dissolving of the European roots of the nations founding and frankly since when is removing parts of your history "dealing with it"?

That is true, but I'd be impressed if Trump or his team actually cared about this effect. I'm not convinced Bannon is anything but an alcoholic christian with sympathy for a mixture of traditionalist and enlightenment ideas.

I've been thinking about how this entire anti-nazi thing is looking like a red herring on social media, even for the supposedly materialist left. Attacking fascists is fine, but I've even been to rallies after Charlottesville that had this heavy focus on defeating white supremacism and fascists, with very little connection between those things and capitalism. There was also no real analysis of fascism as an ideology. Maybe I expect too much from rallies. I just feel like speeches I read from the past frequently had an object, and tried to educate as well as invigorate that listeners. Speeches I hear at most rallies now usually amount to chants and empty statements about how we need to "defeat white supremacism" and "imagine a world without fascism" or whatever.

They clearly did. There are more immigrants in the country now since most of these monuments were erected. If I'm not mistaken, the one that was torn down was 1908? I may be thinking of another though, there were a bunch of statues in the news cycle the past couple of days.

The changing ethnic composition of the United States, and the advancement of capitalism such that other institutions like domestic female labor, the family, heterosexual relationships etc. have been upset caused social upheavals in the 60s demanding that the laws of the state reflect the new material reality. We are STILL feeling that. Desire to dismantle the statues is just an effect of this real dismantling of the old social order. It is totally symbolic, but not arising out of a vacuum.

Point being the right wingers are still the greater reactionaries and idealists. They cling to the statues they erected as though they mean something, when all they are are ghosts of a time at which their safety was unquestionable because the material reality supported them. Attacking the statues is just tribal attacks on the fading right wing which will have to reinvent itself to remain relevant.

I think if the right actually read books they'd be better served by going back to italian fascism. Mussolini, contradictory as he was, was able to say that monuments were ephemeral and even the fascist doctrine was contingent on historical, material reality. It would not be such a problem for him or the futurist wing of the italian fascists to say that these statues are just dust in the wind. The American far-right is a confused mess of reactionary allegiances to totally dead institutions and delirious myths about their identity.

ITT: Lefties that don't realize that this tearing down of symbols will pit the american public (especially the southern one) against them.
Why are you lefties so bad at PR and long therm strategy? Trump is going on the middle ground while the MSM, republicans and democrats defend antifa, a communist militant group.

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Just watch and see 2018 will give Trump an amendment passing majority with all the republican traitors thrown out.

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Democrat turnout is always lower on the midterms. And if the economy is going the way it is and Democrats failing on all fronts you're gonna see a general rout.
Lefties showed themselves as completely immature and in some aspect mentally sick.
If the democrat party doesn't coalesce around one strong leader, they're gonna fall a long way.
Face the facts. The left lost 2016 and it lost very badly. And they still consider themselves in charge with all the media being on their side (which no one takes seriously). They constructed an echo chamber, rigged with explosives.

it seems to me the public are glad these are going because they dislike the altright more

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pol is seriously unbearable

also
top fucking kek utterly ignorant polyp

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You are, you dumb fuck.

No wonder Holla Forumsyps are still so obsessed over 2016, since 2017 has been a shit year for them so far.

picture not related

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Oh, you mean overdue for another recession with multiple analysts in porkie publications ringing the alarm bell?

Yeah, with the right wing in control of the house, senate, and presidency, I wonder who's gonna take the fall for that.

soros

wow so much winning for the aut-right

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youtube.com/watch?v=hWxszYK6IPU

fucking burgers

Holla Forums yet again in complete agreement with their overlords in academia, media etc., all while preaching for PR sake, that "we're Leftists and they're Liberals!" Holla Forums is disturbingly stupid. A sponge for top-down ideological subversion. True sub-human filth. You are indisputably followers, to a T, of establishment propagandists. You're the lapdog, Holla Forums.

mmhmm. that's nice sweetie

The "Right-wing" which over the past couple of days derided the "Right-wing," while you all sit here on Holla Forums supporting wholly so-called "Liberal" positions, which you try to differentiate yourself from while completely agreeing with and supporting everything they do? Might as well just call yourself /liberalpol/ if you're not going to call the so-called Liberals Lefties, for the sake of your PR. You're their bitch, after all. You do as they say and agree with what they deem true. Pathetic rat.

Non-argument.

FUCKING BURGERS.

(also this video proves antifa is a good thing, these bitches are too pussy to even keep their clothes on, he will probably think twice before white powering again)

nobody cares :^)

Sure you do, and so do I, because I win.

you are not smart enough to understand anything discussed on this board

well Holla Forums n friends definitely do

Non-argument. I still win until you actually address anything I've said.

i don't address enemies. i destroy them

I bet you do, you limp-wristed bum. Now go jerk off to porn, tough guy. Think about how you couldn't dispute what I said.

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Non-argument, "Liberal."

you are not smart enough to understand anything discussed on this board. think about that while you watch your reactionary youtube e-celebs

Read again if it helps you understand.

except it is? the only non-arguer here is the classcuck who obviously can't read

He says while using his body as a footrest for the capitalist

You're in agreement with talking heads on television, so-called "Liberal" groups, politicians etc. Do we call them Lefties, or you Liberals? Inform me.

you're in agreement with society's owners and rulers. that's why we call you classcuck. do some reading and come back when you have something decent to contribute to the discussion. or keep licking the boot

yeah y'know the liberal talking heads, the ones calling us "alt-left" that we like totally agree with and stuff. get your head out of your ass. you obviously don't know anything about the left or even liberals

im a literal nihilist, but apparently I'm a liberal because I don't care about your statue getting wrecked? You're a moron

And you may ask yourself
How do I work this?
And you may ask yourself
Where is that large automobile?
And you may tell yourself
This is not my beautiful house!
And you may tell yourself
This is not my beautiful wife!

Imagine having an Autism Level like his

Nope, that'd be you. From academia, to media, to the politicians and funded social groups, Holla Forums agrees with and pushes their agenda. This thread is proof. Hey Liberal!(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)

the earth is flat. this thread is proof. hey liberal!

how is any of this an argument?

Your lacking cognitive ability is pathetic, and this thread is proof. Hey Liberal!

It's a fact. All one has to do is look through Holla Forums. For the sake of PR Holla Forums distances itself from so-called Liberals by denoting themselves Lefties and them Liberals, meanwhile Holla Forums never has a difference of opinion and merely latches onto top-down social and political agendas that originate from so-called Liberal institutions. Holla Forums supports so-called "Liberal" groups. So what is it, are we /liberalpol,/ or are they truly Lefties? Let's be consistent, /liberalpol/!

You need to come with better equipped bait to troll around here nigger.

Hey, a Liberal on /liberalpol/!

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Made me chuckle

whoops
left on sasanposting flag

Well at least you don't deny the truth in it.

Poor lad
so oblivious

See

Kek
so the reddit rumors about /r/pol where right huh?
truly makes one ponder

oh y'know, except for fundamentally disagreeing on the ideal superstructure for society. were you dropped on the head several times as a child?

Not in origin, but in its current mainstream usage, yes. It's used similarly to weapoinized rhetoric like "racist," which is used to shut down conversation and distance one from the responsibility of discourse. Liberal in a nutshell, and used perfectly by /liberalpol/.

Ah yes, the classic liberal opinions of redefining property, disregarding russiagate as bullshit, loving guns, you get the idea.

You sound like someone struggling with the realization that long held stereotypes and political lies you've been fed are false.

like you guys don't parade around racism like a medal in your safe spaces. quit virtue signaling

So how is his an argument if the term is so widely used?

You're begging the question and insisting it's an "argument." It's not and your word-salad posting style makes you sound even more retarded than your reasoning makes you out to be.

What did he mean by this?

Weird, I got on the front page of Holla Forums and I see a thread insinuating it's real and attempting to justify it.
Liberals love guns now too, now that Trump is president.
You mean like Liberal groups advocate every day in the real world?

Of course you latched wholly onto the term "racist" the moment you saw it and proceeded to use it in its intended manner. Hey Liberal!

Hell yeah nigga

what's even your point here?

Kek this is so pathetic! You don't even know the right terminology as to what we are discussing, yet you try to keep going.
I respect you kiddo

Don't think you meant to green text that one, because that's what you truly want.

not an argument

What, here on /liberalpol/? The same discussions which can be found in the news sections on any mainstream website. /liberalpol/ is a microcosm of mainstream Liberal propaganda structures. Same ideas. Same rhetoric. Same moral standards. Same moral scale. It's pathetic. Your PR driven lust to differentiate yourself for the pure sake of image, and thus your eternal lust for moral superiority where you feel threatened, is just further proof of how Liberalized your mentality is.
Also the fact that you run to mods to ban me in an attempt t protect your little bubble further illustrates my point to a T. You people are pathetic. Weak.

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You needed addressed my initial argument, you just begged the mods to ban me.

so are you gonna actually start using proper nomenclature? or be butthurt because I pointed out you have the I*Q of a mongrel?

Nice example of how feeble-minded you are, Liberal.

you have no point

I do, you just want to pretend I didn't type it. I win.

i address your loud retarded statements and then you just say the same thing over again. you're just a retard

I like how you're desperately trying to use "liberal" like it's some kind of slur. Go away, learn English, and come back with an actual argument, faggot.

projecting

/liberalpol/

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/r/pol

This made me laugh. Thank you. You just admitted you are /liberalpol/. Holla Forums a year ago did indeed use Liberal as a slur. Fucking hilarious.

oh fuck off will you unbearable autist

Winning.

WEW

No, irritating at most

Again, kill yourself out of Holla Forums and come back with an argument.

Why? Robert E. Lee literally opposed Civil War monuments in his lifetime on the grounds that they kept the sores of war torn open.

He most likely can't formulate one due to his inbred DNA lowering his cognitive abilities, so he resorts to using
as an "argument" instead

One of the worst trolling efforts I've ever seen. Lacking in any subtlety or charm and instead is just an insufferable, obnoxious display hoping to succeed through persistence alone. Like a little kid screaming in your face and trying to egg you on by relying on playground insults. But hey, it's not like it makes US look bad so whatever.

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OP here, I really didn't think you would fall for a simple bait thread that got you all to admit you want to tear down statues of the founding fathers.

Why not

The joke's on you & you don't realize it?

Just knock down every statue of every politician, they're all ugly as fuck, and I shouldn't be allowed to look at them

Worth posting here too:

White Nationalist admits He's LARPing; takes off polo and hat in embarrassing denouncement
twitter.com/tariqnasheed/status/897896461672751104

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I probably should've put it in quotes, yeah.
I-i'ts just fun to yell white power. I'm j-just here for the memes man
What a fucking wimp

yeah why wouldn't we, maybe we'll leave up jefferson, maybe

For those who do not wish to view the magnificent video on twatter.

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