Convince me why I shouldn't be an ethnonationalist like all these fine Californian fellow socialists?

You do fucking know Spain colonized this shit hole first, right.

Seems like you don't either.

I can't tell what you're trying to say here.

Are you trying to say that SA, as a homogeneous nation, ought to be happy by nationalist logic, but it isn't? But SA isn't homogeneous.
Are you trying to say that SA, as a heterogeneous nation, ought not have any particular sectarian problems by materialist logic, but it does? I wouldn't have pegged you as someone with nationalist sympathies.
Are you trying to say without irony that SA, as a heterogeneous and impoverished nation, actually is the happiest nation? That seems implausible; can you cite a source?

So you've put absolutely no thought into this at all, gg.

stop pretending karma is an argument or a justification for anything

I'm making a sarcastic joke about apartheid.

I'm not, I'm saying nobody owes or owns a state in the United States. Why would you even want to own this dry shit hole anyways. Why California, why not anywhere else

Stop pretending you're a socialist.

Why should I care? No
Got enough spooked fuckers around here as it is.

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give me one reason why foreign labor that lowers wages and destroys collective bargaining and is supported, promoted by corporations is good?

give me one reason why we should allow foreign elites to settle here and drive up housing prices?

also very ironic you post under the viet cong flag. not like they weren't nationalist or something.

how about you criticize the other points?

chinese millionaires buy up everything, illegals cross the border supported by porky, destroying wages and jobs and the environment with mindless monoculture, the entire world immigrates here to destroy any opportunity for native californians in tech and software industry, when silicon valley and hollywood are hotbeds of elitist globalist bourgeois scum

Nationalism over being ruled by a colonial power and you being upset about your neighbors are two very different fucking things you hysterical liberal.

What exactly makes me not a socialist? Reformist tendencies and no desire to quash the state doesn't change the fact I want popular control of the MOP.

If you think we ought to starve lumpens and bourgs I wouldn't call your ideology a good one. Certainly, make them live in austerity as opposed to luxury, but completely disregard their interests altogether? Also, the goal is for everyone to live a "bourg" lifestyle free of labor anyway.

Really strainin the noggin here fam

I am acting rationally in my self interest. I see that mexicans have absolutely no interest in class consciousness, are racist and superstitious af, I see how they lower wages with illegal immigration, I see how they collaborate (unknowingly) with porky to lower wages, to destroy labor unity,…

so i, just as the first socialists, as the first champions of labor, wish to stop both of them. I follow their example, before they became subverted and bought into capitalist liberal propaganda .

now, what is spooked about that?

Stop pretending to be both a succdem and a tankie.

The workers have no nation.

That's funny they seem pretty fucking socialist down here. Are you living in the same state as me?

m8 are you joking? their idea of socialism is more scraps from the government and make america mexico again.

I never said anything like that you insufferable faggot. Approaching this through the scope of IdPol will only integrate you into the Capitalist spectacle.

Instead of agitating against poor immigrants, fight together against the Corporations that take jobs from one group and pay jackshit to the other. Class is the only solution against this, and what we want is to abolish capitalism, not just make it more palatable to native workers.

I'm against all elites friend. Unlike you, I don't care whether they're niggers, chinks or honkeys. I hate them all.

You speak for the mexicans.

Nothing wrong with that at all. Remember most European countries in the 19th century were basically 95% white. Multiculturalism leads to state tyranny. Aristotle, who Marx adored, understood this ~2500 years ago. Race is a factor of social life that is more significant than class, the classes of history change but the races of the world do not.

Only Trotskyites, and anarchist gimps want to destroy Western societies, because they are committed to absolute internationalism. Ironically, the mouth breathers tearing down the statue at Durham, are also shills of the capitalists. All anti-western leftists are useful idiots. Yes! open the borders and flood Western countries with new debtpigs to feed into the financial machine. We don't need mothers or fathers, we need non-binary worker units so that our GDP can grow!

You misunderstood Stirner, as do most people on this board. Stirner's egoism is about Owness, rather than conventional self-interest as normally understood. Making race into fixed idea is spooky af

You're OP

How can you be a Californian ethnostatist if Californians ain't even an ethnicity?

I swear, California's such a melting pot even the state's Stormfags are wiggers.

When the dignified façade of tolerance for "the model minority" slips from the face of White America once the reality that they're actually beating them at their own rigged socioeconomic game sets it…

Well if you're american you're already a mongrel so there goes any hope of functioning ethno-nationalism. Sure, you might purge everyone who's too black, but after that people who are too slavic, italian, irish etc. will have to go too. White identity only exists in reaction to blacks, white nationalism is not a thing in Europe cause we're not inbred mongrels.

You don't know much about Mexican history, then.

Cherry picked examples are a bad sample size

The white race is capitalist propaganda.
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also, the fact that you're asking us to "convince" you to our side proves you're drowning in american liberalism (muh reasoned debate, muh free marketplace of ideas)

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tough shit mate, you deserve it.
go watch your wife get blacked again.

hmmm. guess I am not an egoist then. what I take from the little I ave read of stirner is that the metaphysical is a big hoax, made up to make you forget your own interests.

no this is OP. I am californian, what do i care about the statue of a dixie slave driver?

I just like to maintain a balance of California as it has existed until post-war immigration, until reagan fucked up with his amnestybill,…

it is more than pure biological race as well. as I said, we californians were always the most progressive state in the usa. we were te first to emphasize the importance of physical health, we pioneered women's rights, the importance of the environment, labor laws,…

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but when le minority does it, it is suddenly ok? imagine if there was a flag for white nationalist.

btw, you realize mexicans hate blacks right? there are cholo gangs ethnically cleansing L.A. as we speak.

splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/2007/latino-gang-members-southern-california-are-terrorizing-and-killing-blacks

mate stop putting words in my mouth. I have never for a second believed in this liberal multiracial nonsense of model minorities. as said before, I follow the old standard, not the new liberal infested leftism that you see today. I do not want asian immigration, not if they behaved like saints, and not if they behaved like blacks

and I am still a socialist, hope you don't forget that. so trying to bait me as if I would be a liberal were it not for asian superiority, is an insult.

on the contrary, their capitalist superiority is an even greater reason to exclude them.

I'm African. I can trace my ancestry right back to the village just outside Kumasi where my family's lived for generations if not centuries. I ain't Black-American let alone American, why would I need a black ethnostate if I've got Ghana?

you live in Ghana?

Focus harder on being a hood socialist then. The #1 reason people immigrate is for economic opportunity. Get rid of the world's "free market" and it's profit centered mode of apparatus, give the whole world and equal share of the wealth pie by crushing imperialism and nobody's gonna need to move to Cali no more.

Nah, but if I felt like I only wanted to be round black people I could always just move there instead of advocating for black nationalism.

if only. if only we could march on hollywood, silicon valley, blackhawk, palos verdes, orinda, las vegas,.. and execut all those bourgeois scumbags and expropriate their stolen wealth. if only we could blow up every bank existing, destroy every "boss" that exists.

what a surprise

Well, them guys and their economic interests are the #1 thing bringing immigrants to California and the rest of Burgerland so you ain't exactly gonna put a stop to immigration without putting the Porkies on meat hooks.

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