see the fact you're saying something like this as if it's contradictory again exposes why people think you're retarded. when communists today ask "where is the revolutionary subject?" it is obviously asked in the sense of "where is the proletariat's desire for revolution under these conditions it obviously suffers from?" and doubly "where in the proletariat must we look?". it's completely evident to anyone who heard zizek say the phrase "where is the revolutionary subject today?" but somehow excluding you. it's like you're either trolling or are just too stupid. can you imagine having a convo with you where it's constantly spoonfeeding you and you are under the assumption that everyone contradicts themselves or says dumb shit? like seriously dude get an autism check or something.
so yeah, where is the revolutionary subject today, because when you say "The revolutionary subject is the exploited masses who make up most of the world" that's vague bullshit if i ever heard of it. if they are all revolutionary, and inherently so, where is their activity? do le dumb masses need educating to understand they're getting fucked? is this what you're suggesting? and do you have again a single historical example of a revolution that started because utopians like you riled them up with their hot ideas? i think not.
well then why aren't they? they are getting decades worth of social benefits bourgeois society conceded to them in immense struggles taken away from under their noses but they give almost no fucks. joker movements like occupy failed to go beyond sitting in somewhere. do you understand the magnitude of this problem now and why this is more worth our energy?
like what? nobody else is seeing it. only you.
rofl where? for the leftcoms it's a matter of supporting what revolutionary aims workers already express. it means joining them when they look for avenues outside bourgeois politics to fight for even basic things like a higher min. wage. this is a revolutionary form of politics. if it succeeds and survives with such demands it can evolve, and this must be protected. you will notice all communists did the same ultimately, including marx. the most revolutionary movements started without truly revolutionary aims. these came when the situation itself showed the less revolutionary aims were insufficient, and as such exposed what can truly be done and what would really be different.
so now back to your dumb shit, and nice job cloaking yourself with the mautist flag you samefag, how do you even hope to begin this process without understanding why the world is the way it is and why it doesn't produce much or really any real revolutionary activity at all.
Jeremiah Cox
Looks like you kinda just outed yourself as the leftcom or the ancom flag guy (or both) with a dropped flag though with all that aggression. You ask "if they are all revolutionary, and inherently so, where is their activity?" which I already explained by saying they have been suppressed. You didn't answer my question though, "if what you say is true than why bother with socialism at all?", so I'll answer the one you have asked me after you answer that, even though I already told you where there activity is. In the third world it has represented itself in some revolutionary forms like in Rojava. However in most places the tools of repression are too strong, the media is in too much lock step. This is what keeps the proles in line. Its really not as vague as "there will be some kind of an organic revolution that I will try my best to be a contributing part of" or at least, if I'm vague, then that is vague. You ask me if I think the dumb masses need educating.. yes to a degree, but mostly I think they need organisation which they currently lack and which you reject. Educate, Agitate, Organise. And no I can't name a single revolution like that but I never suggested one existed either. I could name for you a great many revolutions which involved a strong party with a distinct ideology that the proletarians organised around, which is what I think we need. Also could you drop the buzzwords please everything is UTOPIAN this or OPPORTUNIST that its a little hysterical. You also tell me to get an autism check when you are clearly extremely angry at the content of an image board. Think on that. You also say "well then why aren't they" when I clearly gave a reason. It seem you have a tendency to just batter out a bunch of angry stuff without actually reading what was written. Also I count at least 4 or 5 people in this thread who find what the leftcom said contradictory. And yeh just this bit "for the leftcoms" completely gives you away. Also according to leftcoms fighting for a min wage is good and revolutionary but Rojava is bad and not really revolutionary.. do I have that about right? I agree obviously with fighting for a min wage but again, this seems extremely contradictory and incoherent. It seems to me like you're just kind of picking "stuff I like" and claiming that to be revolutionary and then picking "stuff I don't like" and saying it counter revolutionary. Overall yeh, incoherent for sure.
Isaac Hernandez
man you really really don't like me at all do you, its not even about ideology is it really, this is clearly a personal issue, I feel like I once insulted your mother or something really
Camden Sullivan
TBH I can see why the black faggot sperged out with you coons
