How do we go about BTFOing the arguments that go something like:
etc.?
I see it is surprisingly common, yet I'm never sure how to properly answer it.
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How do we go about BTFOing the arguments that go something like:
Ryan Gomez
Kayden Jackson
The capitalist never actually risks anything. Also why should he be permitted to continuously reap profits from that single initial risk, regardless of how large it was, for all eternity?
Benjamin Richardson
Don't capitalists who have no capital prior to starting the business hav e to risk a lot of their money? Assuming it is not inherited.
This is especially the case with small business owners.
That's a good point, but doesn't that make the argument that workers shouldn't be paid until the monetary risk he took is paid for? Or at least, I can see someone saying that.
Owen Bennett
What do any of those arguments have to do with capital accumulation, artificial obsolescence or violence against women/environment? That's the usual Marxist song and dance routine.
Mason Murphy
The leftist argument is that the workers have a legitimate right to the means of production, or at least, a legitimate right in establishing control over them. These arguments in OP are used to support the capitalist's right to the MoP and/or extracting surplus.
Connor Gutierrez
Tell them that under Mao capitalists didn't have to take risks.
Grayson Myers
Carter Green
Ugh. It's especially frustrating when I see most tradesmen that work as subs are pretty much capitalists. They work for a big contractor. They DON'T join the union because they think it's for "crims and poofs" and once they've saved up enough money working for Porky for their own tools they do their own independent contract work or go further and buy vehicles and start exploiting other workers.
Like… I get that you can't do hard labor forever and eventually when you're in a position to manage you'll probably too old to do manual work. And so you'll higher younger workers and apprentices and… uhh… yeah. The cycle repeats itself. The worst thing is that these plebs live pretty comfortably there after.
Seriously… though.. tradesmen are the worst capitalists I've ever seen. Why is it everybody I can talk to about left economics is usually a in a service industry job, a student or an IT person?
Henry Sanders
Leftist speakers go on enumerating all the ways that "capitalists" perform feats of "violence" against workers. Those "capitalist" assertion of "rights" are projecting victimhoods onto them. Rights are earned by having suffered aggression. Where is there hope?
James Thompson
Because lefties are sell-outs. There's a conspiracy for Big Union to replace manufacturing jobs with service jobs.