People have been saying that for like 150 years now.
Why are Third Worldists wrong according to Holla Forums...
Roo upon seeing this: UGH! THIS IS LITERALLY NOT MAKING ANY ARGUMENT. ARMCHAIR IS MAKING A PERSONAL ATTACK AGAINST ME. REVOLUTION HAS LITERALLY NEVER COME FROM REFORMISM. THIS IS THE VERY FACE OF FIRST WORLDISM. UGH!!!!
adding onto that, years of austerity in the first world means that workers in the west are currently losing access to these benefits.
Literally all these things were implemented by the ruling class in order to pacify workers.
Abstract concepts of exploitation matter nothing to the worker as long as his material existence is satisfying. Furthermore, the First World relies less and less on manufacturing industry but rent-seeking, which doesn't perform the classic marxist surplus extraction. Modern entrepreneurship, self-employment and rent-seeking is about to be the future for the first world, while the third world will cover the manufacturing sector.
Way to strawman Third Worldism. It's kinda funny, Third Worldism gets either accused of "IdPol" or "economic reductionism". You can't have it both ways. The reason why this notion exists though is because unlike most western societies, capitalism hasn't done much good to these people, therefore, they are having a less positive view of capitalism, because for them, Marxist-Leninist state socialism is preferable to capitalist exploitation. Contrary to what bourgeois propaganda tells you, capitalism doesn't actually built up these exploited countries, because the cycle of accumulation and reinvestment is severed through superexploitation.
Amazing how triggered you guys get when faced with the reality.
Socialism has a good chance of emerging from anti-austerity struggles as we're already seeing potential for in Greece, Spain, and France (all three of these countries have very militant labour histories). Greek anarchists are already setting up self-governed mutual-aid based neighborhoods alongside refugees and migrants. The same thing could easily happen in French banlieues if it's not happening already.
Go back to grad school.
It's funny because he literally doesn't make any argument. I can see why Roo reacts like that since he's been refuting strawmen for years now.
Ugh, learn how economics work. When wages and social benefits go down prices will go down as well. In Germany, real wages (adjusted to the inflation rate) have been going down since the 90s, yet the living standard hasn't decreased. If there is anybody who is suffering the consequences of austerity its the Third World worker.
Because the first world has revolutionary potential.
WTF I love social democracy/social imperialism now
Meh. Greek in particular is interlocked within the EU and its mechanics. Greece is already stabilizing by neoliberal standards, there is not going to be any revolution, because a Grexit is going to he ten times worse then the austerity measures for the average Greek. Stop being such an utopian.
It did.
If there is no first world insurrection, then the USA will just bomb third world communists into oblivion.
A third world insurrection being hopeless doesn't make a first world insurrection possible though.