How do you guys feel about antifa?

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This. Antifa is quickly becoming the right's new boogeyman in the absence of any real communist power to justify a red scare. I don't think we can afford the kind of negative press that this sort of hooliganism brings. In terms of militancy we should be practicing and advertising readiness, but not going out making idiots of ourselves.

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Antifa are already getting demonized and thrown in jail; might as well perform some propaganda of the deed and accomplish something useful in the process.

A great way to recruit lots of violent youth who care more about the thrill of fighting than helping people

Violence isn't really the answer.
And you look goofy as hell in those black bloc outfit.

But best of luck regardless.

I hope that we can occupy State buildings and demand Medicare for All, within our state, when Trump eventually takes away our healthcare

Those violent youth are violent for a reason - capitalism. Who else should be recruited if not those most deeply marginalized by it? DSA hipsters? Violence and helping people aren't opposed, actions such as his one require establishing lines of solidarity, and they also help those in communities affected by fascists.

wow you're naive.

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Well it explains a lot about antifas.

Antifa should be like the Black Panthers, take care of your community and beat the fuck out of fash and cops

LARPers no different than kekistan types. If it wasnt for antifa, we wouldn't have Right wing LARPers.

It is completely understandable if people are violent. However, leftist politics must not turn into a fight club. Violence should be used selectively, and fat kekistanis waving flags they spent their parents' money on and old men who mutter about those damn faggots are not worthy targets. Organizing a militia is secondary to community improvement projects, labor organizing, and attempts to prefigure anarchy, unless hundreds of people in jackboots are stomping around your neighborhood roman saluting, which is not the case anywhere in the USA.

This

They would make for awful comrades if they haven't read shit and just want to smash shit.

Some will tell you Antifa sucks dick but no I think they're ballsy. Also thanks for beating the fuck out those dumbass nerds.

There is Antifa hate around the internet by some leftists just because they're not their dream personal army. Ignore those retards, you do you. Have fun, live life how you want.

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well, and white nationalist people show up, march in the streets, recruit people to their orgs, share propaganda … police tolerate it and mainstream liberals just ignore it.

We shut down their march and bloodied a few of their more notable figures. And the far-right's major brawler (a minor celebrity in area politics) got arrested.

Academics were memeing for a while about whether or not punching a racist was alright. imo it's totally justified.

yes, completely agree

If there were no right wing larpers, then how could we beat up Holla Forums trolls? just leaving them in their basements to rot isn't any good…

That would be cooler yes. Good idea actually. Things like providing medicare for non-fascists like the Greek Anarchist do. All that would help Antifa.

Making more friends = Making more power. Friendship is the strongest resource in the planet.

I'm pretty sure he means just scaring them.

antifa using violence makes the left-wing looks bad, the moments that antifa made the aut-right looking like the fucking retards that they are was just outnumbering them without any kinda of violence, that's how you win.

Violence should never be fun. It is necessary to be violent at times, and there will be plenty of those times between now and the extinction of the human species. But if violence ever becomes and end in itself, the organization performing it loses all revolutionary potential.

Anti-capitalist action isn't predicated on and doesn't emanate from reading theory. Anyone can appreciate the sight of a burning car or a broken window without reading a thing, as wqs te case historically.

Black blocs are prefigurative. Communism is an immediate process.

The local anarchists here often host picnics / community barbecues, and provide hygiene items / clothes for those in need. It's awesome!

There's also an independent crew that fills potholes – en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portland_Anarchist_Road_Care

Radical politics isn't a performance for a passive liberal "public", it's directly aimed against it.

"haha you too afraid to show your identity? lefties are such cowards"
"fucking virtue signalers, nobody cares about your identitarianism"

Socialist left can say "antifa are anarchists, not socialists"

anarchist left can say "real anarchy isn't violent but I'm not responsible for what other people decide to do"

rightwingers demonizing antifa isn't going to make Clinton moderates suddenly become alt-right or even moderate-right…

Cool but take note: vimeo.com/224051475

How easy are meds to steal? In my experience it's pretty easy and since USA lacks a medcare Antifa could take advantage of that. Many people want free state medical care, but right now thats impossible, won't happen.

Antifa will get more friends that way. If you have a friend that is a nurse or studying medicine he will know how to help.

the anti-nazism in the press doesn't seem to be stopping those fuckers, why should it stop us?

the left is being attacked by the masses, so every time that some antifa guy pepper spray some trump supporter the entire youtube will make a video about how antifa are evil, do you really want this kinda of attention ?

i wouldnt call what antifa is doing "politics"

it's really only possible to steal them if you work somewhere that has them, even then they're often logged and counted so you have make sure there is zero suspicion of you whatsoever.
not to mention the people that work in offices are often well-payed (so are often liberals) and risk losing their jobs if they did anything even slightly like that.
and running their business "for free" would put them in the dirt too quickly, since I'm pretty sure the equipment is sold by companies that purposely price gouge.

Yes.

Anti-political politics are still politics. The division between the political and non-political in bourgeois society is garbage.

Amateur pharmaceutical synthesis can't be all that complex if Indian generic manufacturers need so little capital.

That will show them giving me speeding tickets

I wonder if "benevolent leftist gangs" who use illegalism and agorism against porkies to fund party operations and community service projects would be a good idea. They could start by violently driving out lumpen hard drug gangs that ruin communities, selling black market pharmaceuticals like EpiPens stolen from Skreli types to people at low cost, fixing roads, corrupting the police, unionizing workers, fighting gentrification, recruiting lumpens from the population to give them something helpful to do, etc. Essentially the goal is to build strong dual power structures across the nation who are already ready and waiting to immediately take over completely once an opportunity for revolution presents itself.

There can be various small stealing skirmishes in different pharmacies.

If in a city everyone steals from every pharmacy 1 or 2 useful commonly used meds. Then gather up to share the loot which poor people that would help a ton.

also that. I do not know how the Greeks of ADYE do it but they manage and I love them for that. They're the ultimate homies.

now this is what i call larping

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yea check out this larp punch

After your skin fuses with your armchair, I hope you reconsider your position.

its not even anti-politics. its impotent rage LARPing

THIS IS ANTI-POLITICS (pic reeelated)

you're not doing, you're RPing it on an image board.

actually not a bad idea

There is literally nothing wrong with Antifa. As somebody who debates a lot online I can tell you that most right-wingers are too stupid or childish to see that they're wrong. Words can only convey so much and are overrated anyway. Bash away, comrades!

m8, ANTIFA was out-LARPed by kekistanis in CALIFORNIA, IN BERKELEY. (see Battle at berkeley 2, 3, and 4 they didnt even show up to 4)

ANTIFA cant even control the streets of CALIFORNIA, you're not winning a revolution m8.

cops are inherently anti-leftist you dumbass

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In fact it has happened that anarchist hackers erase the database of parking tickets our just out right destroy parking ticket meters. Community service tbh.

No.
twitter.com/VIGI_MI
Anarcho-syndicalist union of cops.

Ok just to clarify i didn't mean just going out and beating the fuck out of cops, that's only for defence, fascists should be fucking stomped on the ground though

i said it ironically. ANTIFA and kekistanis are both just LARP teams

Hot shit that is spicy. Nice work France.

I hope I can red-pill my sister before the revolution starts. She's a police sergeant.

shes not losing her pension for your dumb ass, nigga

Ur post STILL gave me CANCER m8 XDDD

Please don't make me gulag my sister.

I think you mean basement-dwellers running around in CS:S who think life is a videogame.

They are a minority though. And they used to proudly be the CGT Police once, but they decided to rename themselves.

They are still affiliated with the CGT.

Im sorry man, revolutions often get brothers to fight each other for political purposes

I wonder how hard it would be to actually get out and reorganize antifa along these lines. To convince smashies to stop larping for thrills and actually get down and do work to help communities.

Agreed.

What is the synthesis?

they cause pol immense ass damage so i guess theyre okay

You retarded or just pretending. probably both.

Only anti-fa i know actually does service for their community is the greek one, if anyone here is in some anti-fa shit start proposing these kind of actions

Fuck her. She still owes me £150 anyways. Plus she's bisexual from what my other sister's told me.

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Fuck, i want to stop larping and start doing shit but it's so difficult living with reactionary cunts

Pretty sure Antifa take you off the street if you don't mind living in a squat with 10 comrades or chipping in on one guy's rent and living in his flat on the down-low.

this is a good time to google "political leanings in the US military"

look m8, you dont have to defend ANTIFA at every second. ANTIFA has failed to control the streets. The Right wing LARPers held their own.

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I just learned a new skill.

I hope you are pretending to be retarded.

If shit hits the fan I doubt she will remain in the police force. I have a friend who is an ex-pig once they stop loving the state the ones that are not so indoctrinated leave.

this is a good time to google "leftist soldiers who are working for an actual meaningful cause"

it's a good time to google political leanings of rednecks actually.

Do you think that beating up a buch of misguided fucks is gonna change anything,the people running the show are laughing at you,have fun LARPING.

pic very related

not to mention the big amount of anarchists currently in Rojava. Thanks.

it's fun beating up kekistani socially retarded losers tho. It doesn't has to have a bigger reason than punching dweebs for fun.

I doubt any police officer actually "loves" the state. They think they're doing a noble service just by putting on the uniform and handing out speeding tickets though.

maga mr skeltal

yeah, I said "leftists".

soundcloud.com/chapo-trap-house/episode-82-war-is-heck-feat-pisspiggranddad-21317

TIL Pissig was in CTH.

Most of the alt-right that we fought (and beat) yesterday were either scrawny manlet Holla Forums kids & redditors, far-right christian hillbillies, or old biker dudes / veterans.

The funniest thing is that people who rep Kekistan the hardest are almost always normies. Just look at Jeff Holiday. Ain't he like 40 now?

Thats not called being anti fascist thats called being a psychopath

Yeah beat people up for being racist rofl that sounds like a good idea. What the fuck is wrong with your people's heads?

yup

Kekistan is a meme, but it's just not funny when you see Kekistanis marching with the KKK, white pride, and Neonazi groups.

there were these types with "Identity Evropa", a white pride group that puts up a lot of stickers and flyers around town

It's either the socially retarded or the inbred aka rednecks. Thats about it.
It's never serious, only when KKK show up tbh. Thats when things need to get harsh as fuck like in anaheim.

I wish the Kekistani larpers came across Greek Antifa

I'm friends with people inside Identity Europa and been to a few of their meetings and protests and I can assure you they have never not been on the winning side of fights with Antifa. Something about California/Texas attracts the weakest, most virginal mental illness candidates in the entire United States. Somebody needs to reform these fucking anti-fa into something other than a pussy gang which can only do something when no-one else is looking or they heavily outnumber their victims.

prove it.
post your friend's picture.

There was a video posted of them training here and everyone just continued making fun of them. You can't please Holla Forums.

And address.

/r/thedonald faggots tend to just loom around in the back of protests or run away or just act unfunny. KKK hasn't been a thing in years and most knowledgeable Nationalists of that sort of lower class background have joined organizations more like the Traditionalist Workers Party, especially out in the West. These people are literally the remnants of old rural proles and you people still pick fights with them and call them classist shit like "redneck", lmao.

Or you can just step outside your house and go to a protest, pussy.

See, this is why antifa needs to be kept in check.

Now this i applaud. That being said, a few YPG volunteers wont help you win a civil war in America.

Foreign Volunteers in Rojava number around 1000-1800, and not all of those are Leftists/anarchists/ etc. There are many Apolitical people who just went there to fight ISIS in both the YPG and Iraqi Peshmerga. The Apolitical ones tend to be Exmilitary/FFL types while most Leftists are completely untrained. This is why you see more leftists joining shit groups like IRPGF, while the trained ones are almost always embedded in YPG units.

its pretty silly to attribute the situation in rojava to leftists when the the YPG was basically retreating from ISIS, and fleeing into turkey before the US started helping them. without the USs supplies, intelligence, air support , and training, there would be no YPG anymore.

also LOL at the thought of Leftists seeing US special operations in Rojava everyday and not being able to do anything about it.

the guy in the middle pic actually posted on 4/k/ not too long ago. Pretty cool guy.

I support this.
All in favor?

Why dude Imma just talk with him to play videogames and shit.

post it again and tell us which of these dudes is your friend

pisspig is a druggie fuck who contributed nothing to the war effort. hes basically a war tourist.

This. The black panthers where the second best leftist organization in the US for a reason.

It was a video of antifa training and I'm not the poster with the "friends"

Hopefully.

Impossible considering antifa is not an organization and almost all participants are already members of organizations that are doing their own stuff, some actually taking care of their communities.

so what, if they become ideology masters, they should beat up neo-nazis in broad daylight and then get high-fives from the riot cops?

no

I mean it's pretty pathetic that despite being a supposedly radical leftist board Holla Forums still doesn't understand how antifa works.

yes, we do not know what every individual does on the rest of their time.

Enlighten us or hold your peace.

'yes'

sure kiddo

please tell anime art poster

you cannot assume most of them actually do shit like feed to homeless. most of them are teenagers and young adults who just smoke weed and play CoD. just like the kekis

Antifa is not an organization, it's just an action network. When the fascists organize a march or something, people ignore their sectarian dramas for a moment, dress up in black, beat up the fascists, celebrate, and then return to infighting. The only goal of antifa is self-defence against fascists, since that's the only thing every participants agree with.

Because antifa are totally fighting fascism and not just some conservative people who aren't even slightly fascist.

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maybe we could organize some kind of direct action front org made specifically for community service and black panthery stuff.

im sure everyone who posts stalin memes are also tankies who think degenerates should be gulaged

I really hope you're not insinuating I'm a kekistani faggot. That actually hurts. No, but seriously. Even the kekistani autists aren't fascist.

Uh tbh republican supporters are indeed 100% without a doubt fascists. I know because I was one, I'm an ex-Holla Forumstard converted anarchist. Learned the hard way. The only way. By getting the fuck out of the echo chamber and reading books.

No, only counterrevolutionaries.

Well, I don't live in America so I can't tell for sure. I just assumed so because most of them just look like they want a job and Trump said he'd get them jobs.
jokes on them

Maximum hehe

Antifa are a psyop devised by NazBol gang to trick anarkiddies into being henchmen against other nationalist ideologies.

Stalinist here, i love trannies and fall at the very bottom of the political compass

Already happening. Might as well make a dent in history by assassinating some CEOs.

Only right wingers and liberals use the term stalinist

Can't wait for that attitude to get you killed.

I think you're all violent lifestylists making us look bad. At least when other gangs fight they don't pretend they're doing it for anything except territory or revenge.

Try to stop being a caricature of a highschool bully.
Thanks for admitting you're entirely a lifestylist and just care about having fun instead of improving the world.

Please stop pretending you're anything except a faggot trying to justify your shittiness with politics.

People like you are why blackflags are considered faggots.

You literally just sound like a hooligan gang attacking easy targets. Go fuck yourself and stop associating with Leftism.

Holla Forumstards aren't indicative of your average Republican.

Absolutely useless stupidity. Antifascism has never once been a useful force against fascism (principally socialist ones however have, and they never needed to brand themselves as anti-fascist because the socialist position inherently means no quarter with neither capitalism nor one of its particular incarnations like fascism).

Today, antifa is just thuggery against random reactionary idiots, and not even fascists. Fascism historically is incredibly unique, and it speaks volumes that to be a fascist to antifa is to merely consider oneself a fascist. In this sense the idpol tendencies of antifa itself are already revealed: if all it takes for them to be a woman is to say one is a woman, it's no wonder that calling yourself a Nazi immediately actually makes you one as well. In effect antifa here succeeds on a small scale to do what antifascism historically has always at best done: safeguard liberal capitalism's purity in a particular brawl from its worse proponets, a bunch of skinhead tools.

Shit like this isn't fascism. If fascism were around today you would know because antifa wouldn't be around either. "Fascism" is not a fucking buzzword FFS.

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nah

s and anti Christ types
Holy shit you people really are this dense.

good and necessary

uncle Tom gets the bullet too

Reminds me of that South Park episode where the kids joined Somalian pirates because pirates are fun

Will edit kekistanis OC when I feel like it

any kind of mobilization is good

Holla Forums is obsessed with them so they must be doing something right.

you're right, the proper term is "Neo Fascist"

Fascists can be any race. I think they use the term Nazi in order to get liberals on their side.

tbh this is the kinda shit that pisses me off about other leftists
He's right that a lot of Neo-Nazis and KKK members hate him
I actually feel bad for the guy, since he's also a fellow Marxist. Or at least more of a Marxist then those idiots in the background will ever be.