11 mandatory vaccinations for children in France

Don't tell me you guys support this?

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The pharmaceutical industry is still better than the fascism of the family

Shut the fuck up Jim Carrey

t. fascists

The fascistic urge to not let parents let their kids become typhoid mary to everyone else

I support not having polio or tetanus.

Vaccinations are actually not at all cost effective for more businesses. Without government there would be little incentive for any pharmaceutical company to make them. It's one of those "fun" facts about capitalism. G.M.Os are the only "good" scientific advancement that should be stopped until we move past capitalism. Everything else is good for the dialectic.

Getting a vaccine for hepatitis b is actually killing your children

If only….there was a safer alternative….something more irresponsible and free……….hmmmmmmmmmmmm

If your kids aren't vaccinated and they infect my kids with some kind of disease you're getting fucking sued. Opposing vaccinations for common diseases is retarded. There's a reason they're free and compulsory.

I haven't looked at the details but it seems like half of these were already mandatory, or at least were when I was a kid.
Vaccines are free (or almost) in France anyway, and despite the aluminum in them or whatever, we are still less autistic than the eternal Anglo, and don't have measles epidemias and shit like this.
I'm more worried about the full dismantlement of the welfare state we will face at the same time as worsening unemployment and shrinking wages tbqh fam (smh).

polio is bad op

Also if your kid is autistic it is not because you vaccinated them it's because you waited until you were 35 to settle down with your 25 year old gf who you had been stringing along for ages because "LOL ONLY GROSS WOMEN HAVE BIOLOGICAL CLOCKS AMIRITE?".

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This is your mind on fascism.

Are you 12?

you are a living meme

here, you've dropped your shitposting flag.

But if you get your kids vaccinated, doesn't that mean they'd be immune to the diseases non-vaccinated kids supposedly have?


My God, pro-vaxxers of any kind are fucking stupid. You faggots realize you're all shilling for Pharma Porky, right?

So you would be fine with vaccination under communism?

kill yourself there is no "social responsibility" here btw stay spooked

Yes, of course I fucking support preventing diseases in children, fuck off.

Vaccines hardly make any money and theres not fucking mind contrain nanobots into it.

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Infants, the elderly, and people with weakened immunity cannot receive many vaccines. Would you consign them to death by weakening herd immunity?

see here how warped the simpleton mind of a fascist is

What if my kid can't take vaccines because of allergies or shit like that. Then some dumbass who can get vaccinated but chooses not to will get them sick

Anti-vaxxers? On my Holla Forums?

The formula to determine how much of a population must be vaccinated for herd immunity to exist for a particular pathogen is 1-(1/R0), where R0 is the basic reproductive number, how many other people will be infected by someone with the pathogen before the first patient's case resolves. For highly contagious diseases, it is imperative that virtually everyone be vaccinated in order to protect those who, for whatever reason, cannot safely receive the vaccine.

If i even meet you in real life I will slit your fucking throat, you are a danger to the health and safety of all humans on earth. Your kind is what is bringing back the child mortality from the measles in my town

It's some bretty hardcore bait

Actually, yes I would. Because vaccination under communism would actually be socially responsible and not recklessly leave so many millions physiologically injured… or even KILLED.

Vaccines under capitalism are a threat to public health. They receive way less than the minimum amount of testing before being thrown onto the shelves. Viagra was tested for nearly 5 years, but modern vaccines only get up to a month of testing. It's sometimes as low and hasty as a couple of fucking weeks.

For more information, check out the documentary Vaxxed. Andrew Wakefield did nothing wrong.

stirnerbots showing their education as ususal.

Debunked thousands of times. Nice try, pharma shill.
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t. spooked fascist
run along now, adults are talking

Honestly, I have some pretty serious doubts with vaccines. I don't think they cause autism, but I think a lot of the science behind them is questionable and there's a huge momentum keeping them from being questioned by anyone except crazy retards. The entire concept behind herd immunity is questionable due to the fact that it's only been seen and studied in livestock, not in humans, and there's no way enough of the population is immune for herd immunity to even work, considering it's over 60% for most diseases, and vaccinations are not permanent and most adults don't get booster shots, making most adults un-immune.

Not to mention the facts that the most dangerous vaccine-preventable diseases really aren't very dangerous with first-world healthcare. Which wouldn't say that vaccinations couldn't be useful, just that the hysterics present on the pro-side is pretty overblown.

Vaccinations aren't free, they make them precisely because governments and NGOs buy them. Unless the profit motive is present, a corporation isn't going to do anything.

Try not to sound like such a soccermom. Your kid would likely not be one of the few who can't be vaccinated, and if they were, you should probably be smart enough to keep them away from sick children.

Not him, but vaccinations under Communism could actually be trusted, since they would've been created specifically to help people. You wouldn't suspect an ulterior motive or bought science because they would be none.

You can't disregard the immense corrupting influence of the pharmaceutical industry by just saying "muh". You should be smarter than that as a Leftist.

Herd immunity has never been proven in human populations, and it's doubtful it could exist, considering the immense percentage needed for it to work.

Post your name and address if you dare.

kill yourself fascist

Litterally every industry is like that and france is not fucking america where corruption is legal.

resemble those policies found in Not Socialist empires, Stalinist countries, or Communist China
Stopped reading there. Take your Super Male Vitality and go back to worrying about the lizard people and fluoride.

you're a joke kid, go back to Holla Forums

Excuse me?

Yes, every industry is like that, but few is as prevalent and powerful as the pharmaceutical industry.
And here I was thinking that France also existed under Capitalism.

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stay spooked fascist

behold the deformed mind of the fascist, please jail me next for smoking within 20 ft of another person

I support it 2 billion percent, for the following reasons:

1. Anti-vaxers are retarded and base their """"claims"""" on a discredited Lancet study from 1994.
2. They are deluded old mothers who refuse to face the fact that the advanced age at which they bore children significantly contributed to their development of autism.
3. Even if vaccines did cause autism, it'd be far preferable to the leather or horribly debilitating diseases they prevent, like polio.
4. Those who do not vaccinate their children represent a public health risk and directly endanger the lives of other people's children by being disease vectors.

Being an anti-vaxer is the moral equivalent of somebody with the pox deliberately going to schools to infect others. Frankly, the punishment should be MORE severe, and the charge levied against them should be that of battery or 2nd degree murder, depending on the disease against which they refuse to vaccinate.

Advanced maternal age is associated with downs not autism. Paternal age is the real problem. Sorry guys.

It fucking is.


Anti-vaxers should frankly be shot without trial.

It's precisely things like this useless cunt right here that used to be sent to the gulag back in Stalin days…
It's very dangerous having these things living among decent hardworking people. You fucking corruption apologist and cultureless american cunt.

Smallpox doesn't exist anymore. If you're that worried about being sick you should get vaccinated. Everyone else who isn't vaccinated is fucked anyway because herd immunity don't real.

imagine being this much of a deluded fascist

I support it 2 billion percent, for the following reasons:
1. Pro-gunners are retarded and base their """"claims"""" on a context-less FBI statistics
2. They are deluded old hillbillies who refuse to face the fact that the advancement of gun technology has created far deadlier killing machines
3. Even if guns could be used for protection, it'd be far preferable to deal with random muggings rather than school shootings.
4. Those who do not support banning guns represent a public health risk and directly endanger the lives of other people's children by enabling school shooters.
Being a pro-gun is the moral equivalent of letting some deranged lunatic with a rifle deliberately go to schools to kill others. Frankly, the punishment should be MORE severe, and the charge levied against them should be that of battery or 2nd degree murder, depending on the disease against which they refuse to ban guns

nothing to see here, just another fringe fascist lunatic, next you will start a eugenics program to eliminate "violent" babies in the womb because they have a higher chance of harming people
end yourself fascist

eugenicist nazi crypto-fascists completely btfo ITT, not a single one of you have made a coherent argument for the government setting a precedent to inject you with whatever they want on penalty of death

fucking american muh freedom mentality infecting people just like US liberalism.

vaccines exist for a reason, my greatuncle wouldn't have been stuck to an iron lung til he died if we had those back then.

Viruses affecting humans aren't special. Viruses affect the entire kingdom of the Eukaryota and studies on the general mechanism of viral infection done on mammals can absolutely be applied to humans. Saying that you need special studies to show how viruses affect humans is like saying you need special studies to show that suffocation kills humans.

Lel, thanks user 1937964 PhD, MD, clinial epidemiologist, alumnus of Johns Hopkins, esq.

You ignore that many of the diseases against which children are vaccinated primarily affect children and thus, vaccinating children chokes off the disease's supply of disease vectors. The herd immunity being spoken of doesn't refer to the fact that the measles virus is being continuously pumped into the air but everyone just goes his merry way because he was vaccinated as a child, but that diseases cannot even spread because the most vulnerable population (children) is immune.

It doesn't exist anymore because of vaccinations. If it DID exist today, and people refused to get vaccinated, they should be shot and their bodies burned.

Yeah, save for the fact that inhaling second-hand smoke once does not appreciably increase your chance to develop lung cancer, whereas smallpox has a mortality rate of 30-90% and leaves you looking like this.

I kinda like not dying of preventable deceases, so yes I do support it.

Vaccinations are mass produced at very low margins

smallpox still exists in labs in the US and Russia, waiting for the day porky decides the proles are too unruly and need culling.

They are special, because all viruses are unique. The percentage of the population needed for herd immunity to work varies based upon the disease, but even those percentages are not based upon empirical evidence, since you can't gather a group of people and try to deliberately infect them.
That's not true, maybe most of the fatalities are from children, but general infection does not predominately affect children.
Even if every single child was immune, that's only 20% max of the population in the US, way below any type of herd immunity to be effective.

Stop being edgy.

I support well-being for all, not stupid idealist MUH FREEDOM THO sentiments. If you're old enough and aren't allergic to it you should get them.

The vaccine "controversy" is once again Facists slavisishly acting in the interests of the bourgeois, who they have been brainwashed into indentifying with because the bourgeois is also often white and male.
The root cause of autism, cancer, and other serious chronic diseases has much much stronger links to pollution and stress brought on by poverty.
Fascists and their useful ignorant followers never bring that up because they consume all their information from porky media, or "independent" media that is clearly acting in the interest of porky.
If you are really concerned about drugs that harm people visit
worstpills.org
An activist group that has scientificly proven the danger of many drugs and successfully gotten them pulled from the market.

Tactical nihilism.

Frankly, even if herd immunity weren't a thing at all, that would not invalidate the need for vaccines because, as you yourself said, they save people's lives. If you don't vaccinate your child, you're directly endangering his life - you're endangering his life MORE if herd immunity isn't real!
So yes: people who don't vaccinate their children are very much guilty of endangering their lives.

This is a good thing t b h

don't let leftism bleed into hippieism

Socialists are whores for Big Pharma.

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