Christian Communism

Hello. What are your beliefs christian communists? Is their any christian communist /lit/ which can teach you more about Christian Communism?

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The New Testament.

It is God's gift to humankind that everyone should eat and drink and take pleasure in all their toil

— (Ecc. 3: 13).

Old testament too.

found this a while ago.

Jesus's sacrifice in a sense paved the way for the abolition of the law of value under capitalism. And in the days leading up to judgement the righteous will band together is something that I suspect will look a lot like communism.

Communists support the murder of all Christians and an end to all religions. Though elements of communism were plagiarized from things Jesus said, the differences outweigh the similarities

tolstoy mah boy

And where in any communist text does it say that ?

Horseshit, actually read Marx you fucking mongoloid

Why? You've never read The Bible and never will

Liberation Theology is legit

This is a thread for Christian leftists idiot, what makes you think I haven't read the Bible? Read Marx idiot

mine are too incoherent at the moment to spell out. I'll do my best anyways. I don't think jesus was a communist necessarily though I think all christians ought to at least be anticapitalist. I used to think of myself as sympathetic to marx. As I've read more marx and learned more about christianity, I'm becoming less and less certain that there's any compatibility at all there. I've been becoming a bit more conservative lately in terms of social views but I'll always be anticapitalist at least.
I haven't read much in the area yet. I had been much more focussed on just reading Marx until very recently. I can list off a couple people who I've heard good things about tho-
Alasdair Macintyre, Denys Turner, Terry Eagleton, Herbert McCabe, John Milbank.
(Obviously you should also read the New Testament, as well as folks like Augustine and Aquinas which means you should also read the greeks that came before them too)

What makes you think Marx and Christianity are incompatible? It seems to me that Hegelian style Christianity and Marxism work together quite well tbh. And if Hegel's theology is too wild you could still go with a Rousseauean theology and be fairly compatible with Marxism imo

oh fug I also forgot about Dorothy Day. Anyways the list isn't exhaustive I guess. But that should give you a couple ideas if you weren't sure where to look for lefty christian stuff other than Tolstoy and the New Testament (I'm not a big fan of Tolstoy's politics or his reading of the Bible so I feel like it's definitely worth looking elsewhere)

Hegel is heretical as fuck reducing faith to knowledge and his crypto-pantheism is bad. Rousseau is pretty cool tho.

It's not so much Hegel's stuff (which I haven't read yet cause my reading list is piling up a lot faster than I can read) as Marx's criticism of Hegel after Feuerbach that makes me think I can't be a Marxist.
Also a couple secondary sources that more or less support my conclusions here:
marxists.org/subject/marxmyths/cyril-smith/article2.htm
and Peter Hudis's "Marx's Concept of an Alternative to Capitalism."
I'm not really sure what to do now. I read "After Virtue" recently which deals with Marxism a bit and could potentially guide a christian response to it I guess, but I feel like it leaves a lot of questions I have unanswered. I guess I'll just have to live with a bit of cognitive dissonance for a while because I mostly agree with marx politically, but I really don't think I can leave the church.

I'm not so sure on committing myself to full blown communism but I would consider myself a Christian socialist.

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I actually have and enjoyed the experience. It's a shame so many atheists dismiss it just because so many Christians are cunts and Genesis is boring, as you can pick up so many cultural and linguistic references throughout it which really show it as a basis for much of Western culture. I just see no reason to believe in the religion.

good taste, user

The full quote from Karl Marx translates as: "Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people".

i dont know much (if anything) but i dont want religion to be a part of politics.

What do Christfags think of the theory that the Catholic Church is moving to the left because it senses the end of capitalism on the horizon? The church has persisted through 3 of the 4 modes of production that have existed (slavery, feudalism, capitalism, only primitive communism is excluded), such an institution must have an ability to change with the times if it has lasted this long.

"Christian Communism" is like "Anarcho Capitalism", pure moronic bullshit. Also most christians in the US are unapologetic Mitt Romney tier cuckservatives, and believe the whole "Communism killed 120 million".

The 10th Crusade is coming soon user

You can believe in the word of Jesus but not the divinity. You can be an atheist Christian. You can separate ideology from Dogma. Snap out of it.

I wish I had it in me to believe in religion. At least it would give me something to look forward to after this inescapable hell world.

The ideological supermarket is fit for looting user. Currently I find myself as using Market Socialism and Georgism with a focus on extended family units with small family run means to satisfy basic subsistance with necessary large industries run co-operatively sa transitional phase to Communism

Jesus saves your soul. Socialism saves you from economic exploitation.