Chinese Leftist History

Anyone have good resources/readings etc on China's history over the past century or so - it seems like a vital era/period which I really don't have a good grasp of. Also how's this video -

youtube.com/watch?v=jJr3KVM3lBo

Other urls found in this thread:

chuangcn.org/journal/one/.
chuangcn.org/blog/.
docs.google.com/document/d/16iw83noTdWvDiECaITX83rGhP_lros8QdBTrNnCoe6c/edit
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1881/zasulich/reply.htm
publishing.cdlib.org/ucpressebooks/view?docId=ft1489n6wq;brand=ucpress
monoskop.org/File:Needham_Joseph_Science_and_Civilisation_in_China_Vol_1_Introductory_Orientations.pdf
youtube.com/watch?v=rAirFpUl97k
youtube.com/watch?v=TfJy_wduFy4
scmp.com/magazines/post-magazine/long-reads/article/1979870/what-drives-frank-dikotter-chronicler-chinas
twitter.com/SFWRedditVideos

Chuang 闯 is top tier. Their first journal entry does a whole historical chronicling from pre-civil war (Qing dynasty) until modern China: chuangcn.org/journal/one/. Outside of this journal, Chuang chronicles a lot of contemporary takes on the workers' movement on their blog, too: chuangcn.org/blog/.

Nice try

BEHOLD! Fascists!

docs.google.com/document/d/16iw83noTdWvDiECaITX83rGhP_lros8QdBTrNnCoe6c/edit

Here, some reading material that isn't leftcom infancy

Take off that flag immediately.

No Dengist flag, so idk

there is nothing even remotely leftist about neo-China

read Marx, you need capitalism to evolve productive forces before you can have socialism. Guess I'd rather have that under the heel of the proletariat then.

Nah, I ain't doing any more of this fam. Go try on someone else.

This one fits a revisionist of your magnitude better, Ismail.

nice

Funny, because when reading Marx I find that all the productive forces need is the update known as "the agrarian revolution": marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1881/zasulich/reply.htm (on top of this, of course, the revolutionary group-subject known as proletariat).

Marx must have supported the communard uprising before knowing that, and as we all know he thought it failed because they didn't have Made in China Star Trek replicators yet.

So…anyone got good books/readings/etc on Chinese history? This argument is very enlightening but I'd like to gather some actual historical resources comrades lol.

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Ah thanks for that one - I'll dig into it. Looks really interesting!

Just wondering if there are any sold books/etc as well we can gather - though it does seem the source you linked is rather extensive.

"Chuang 1: Dead Generations" really is a book, the first in a series, which you can get as paperback if you'd like just as much. On the website if you scroll down a tiny bit it's divided into four parts (A Thousand Li, Sorghum & Steel, etc.) and you can read it that way.

Thx leftcom pal

Read Chinese Notes, by Otto Braun, only semi-objective account of the Revolution and the Long March.

I can't really find any actual links to that lol

-arif dirlik: revolution and history, and most of his other stuff is interesting too
publishing.cdlib.org/ucpressebooks/view?docId=ft1489n6wq;brand=ucpress
-li minqi: rise of china & demise of capitalist world economy; china & twenty-first century crisis; class struggle in china
li was imprisoned after the june 4 incident and is now a marxist economist working from the US. he has participated in interesting debates with others like wang chaohua (available in NLR)
-for detail on the labour movement there is a book 'against the law' and the CLB/CLM websites
-stuart schram's biography of mao is short and old but good, and perry anderson's 'two revolutions' (also in NLR) was an article that caused interesting debate. his position on the nature of the soviet & sino revolutions seems v close to moishe postone's.
-mark elvin: patterns of the chinese past, u can read after chuang as it requires having a background picture of the scope of chinese history
after elvin u can start on joseph needham himself:
monoskop.org/File:Needham_Joseph_Science_and_Civilisation_in_China_Vol_1_Introductory_Orientations.pdf

this is the interesting english-language material i can think of now. retweet does not necessarily imply support ^^

youtube.com/watch?v=rAirFpUl97k

Important

This is a pretty good BBC documentary

youtube.com/watch?v=TfJy_wduFy4

There's this Hong Kong cracker who has been writing RPC's history from a "ground level" perspectice, as he says. He claims to chronicle how everyday life was among peasants. Well he comes up with descriptions of some shit that would make the Khmer Rouge look like boy Scouts.

scmp.com/magazines/post-magazine/long-reads/article/1979870/what-drives-frank-dikotter-chronicler-chinas

The kicker: his sources are "recently opened archives" (aren't they always?) in 2006 (I googled up and down and found nothing about such an event) from a lot of villages in darkest China, so verifying them is a Herculean task.

Why is it this meme never gets old? I've seen this joke made a thousand times and it still gets a laugh out of me.

Stop being an autist and realize that Maoists and Hoxhaists have the same goals

Bump

Has anyone been autistic enough to read through this whole doc? What are the best arguments that Ismail could come up with?

Hoxhaists wish to annihilate the flying kulaks, too?

Birds are my property. You're not going to exterminate any of them, ragamuffin!

Mobo Gao: A Battle for China's Past