Why do Nazbols exist? Don't they realize that nationalism and communism are incompatible?

Why do Nazbols exist? Don't they realize that nationalism and communism are incompatible?

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Why do Ancaps exist? Don't they realize lack of State and private property are incompatible? And so on and so on…

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this is your brain on nationalism

color me surprised

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Your ideology is incompatible with any state or collective around you that chooses not to be Anarchist. It has no practical way of defending itself against any foreign aggression.

Good luck transitioning into Communism while your land is being seized and your women are getting pork'd by StateCaps.

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bretty sure you're talking about Liberal Capitalism there fam. Not anarkidies.

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The absence of a state would not lead to an absence of social organization. How many times does it need to be said? Local militias will be able to work together on a larger scale to form armies if they are threatened by reactionary forces. Inciting nationalism only weakens the working class.

How does acting for the sake of the people from one specific geographic region instead of all of them imply not eliminating private property within that geographic region?

I can see the anarchist "government property is private property" argument but there are communists who aren't anarchists, democracy and transparency are things, and anarchism is retarded.

brainwashed to think state=organisation=hierarchy

anarchism is at it's most basic an exercise in organising non-hierarchically

[sniffs internally]

The best part of this image is that there's copyrights on it.

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It's always ancoms and leftcoms, I think the possible outcomes rather than the purpose makes them nervous or something.

Nationalism is inherently class collaborationist which is antithetical to communism. "Your people" or "volk" or whatever the fuck you morons call it is an arbitrary distinction based of of feels and is completely divorced from class analysis.

What's this great purpose Nazbols serve?

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AnCaps are NAZBOL!

Almost all party-oriented communists (and even some federalists) support nationalism of oppressed nations.

The ultimate victory of the Chaos Gods and the collapse of Earth into the Warp.

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How ? Workers having a common identity is vital for the success of a revolution. There's an inbetween between internationalism (which is weak and uneffective i.e. trots) and imperialism (which is self defeating and causes counter-revolution and capitalist dissidence i.e. USSR, PRC).

if in a ethnic\nation focused state with maximum social cohesion communism does not work, why would it ever work in a cultural relativism loving lefty/liberal sate with less social coesion?
thus nazbol has more chance to succeed


anarchism is shit based on unrealistic conditions

Friendly reminder that $trasser himself did not consider himself a Marxist nor did he thought Marxism was a legitimate socialist philosophy, calling it liberal and internationalist (no shit).

He did however recognise it did a lot of good for the workers.
Source : Germany Tomorrow

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Not communism - state Capitalism
Not communism - market Socialism
See above
Absolutely not Communist - absolute Monarchy - they even removed all references to it a few years ago

finally revealing your true colors

Apparently Czarism is unironically NazBol.

We want socialism, not communism. DOn’t confuse the two.

We don’t like Ancaps though.

So you're saying communism is solely a moral ambition to remove exploitation from society, and any pretense of improving popular quality of life or efficiency of production is merely a side-effect? That makes it seem like communism is a pretty spooked ideology, putting morality before happiness.

If a rich person has a plot of land he himself isn't farming but he's asking me to pay money for the muh privilege of using it that's obviously absurd, and some entity (the republic, in my opinion, but "society" or the "union of egoists" if you're so deadset on anarchism) should of course step in and stop that, and sanction that guy if he tries to retain it nevertheless. That doesn't mean we ought to have shot him even if he didn't object in the first place; "justice" is completely meaningless. Indeed, were it possible, we'd want him to continue to live as well or even better than he would if he had been allowed to charge me to use "his property"; the only reason we don't allow him to do that is because resources are scarce and it's better to allocate them to people who actually contribute to their production rather than random blokes who didn't do anything other than demand a ransom for the muh privilege of being allowed to produce. We want everyone to be "bourgeois", in that life isn't a struggle at all but things are nevertheless great; like the Garden of Eden but even better.

Mates get the guillotine some hardcore revisionism is happening right now

How can i confuse them when they are the same thing?

Nazbol isn't necessarily nationalist

Many of them are proponents of the Duginist Eurasia idea, which would be a collection of states gathered into one empire.

They are statists however and imperialists, which I would agree with them is necessary depending on the context in which socialism evolves alongside that state. Larping like you are going to become Rome 2.0. or the new Soviet Union in the 21st century is laughable. It all depends on who has managed to grab power in such an enterprise. So for example I would grant some policies of Stalin and Iron Guard Romania as being Nazbol, but Putin's Russia or Baathism are not Nazbol at all.

I don't know what nationalism or communism are: The posts

Please read theory.

Only post-revolution. Monarchosocialism has always been a French thing (read Maurras) or German (read Sombart and Spengler). I am not counting Nordic Socdems or High/Red Tories mind u.

Culture Continentalism is the best term technically. Assad is half Nazbol (to the SSNP's full Nazbol). Putin isn't Nazbol tho… YET….

globalists got btfo this thread

SIONISTAS BTFO'D

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How to get woke: realize that Stalin was the CEO of the Soviet Union and it was his private industrial enterprize.

Gugs, TsarBolsh was a thing, read this:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirill_Vladimirovich,_Grand_Duke_of_Russia#Life_abroad

Nazbol is a joke ideology that started as a parody but then some people took it seriously.

Noice.

Uh no read Niekisch and Thiriart

Nazbols afaik don't support or believe in "communism" (classless stateless borderless society).

They want tankie state run socialism which is totally compatible with nationalism.

Don't know what to think about this, but Polish "Zmiana" explicitly approves People's Republic of Poland as "the industry belonged to Poland back then, and we weren't USA's chain dog like today"

"don't know what to think about this" = "someday, something in me will break and I'll unironically join them

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Why is the USSR being discussed on this board?
“Left-Wing” Communism: an Infantile Disorder by Vladimir Lenin:
marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1920/lwc/

Horseshoe theory confirmed along both the left-right and the libertarian-authoritarian axis?

Communism is bullshit. It is an ideology that self-serving nihilists use to usurp power. It is the cult of personality. It is the new religion.

That’s true. #StalinDidNothingWrong

So does that make Gorbachov a violated of the NAP.

Are you a pole?