Whats the difference between Anarcho communism and libertarian socialism?

Whats the difference between Anarcho communism and libertarian socialism?

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Much like how OP (that's you, newfag) is a faggot, but not all faggots are OP, ancom is a form of libertarian socialism.

Anarchism:
LITERALLY EVERY FORM OF GOVERNMENT IS SATAN. YOU CAN'T CONTROL ME DAD! I AIN'T A PART OF YOUR SYSTEM!

Libertarian socialism:
I agree with the premise of Marxism but its applications have lead to authoritarianism and we cannot repeat them. At the same time, we must differentiate ourselves from the lack of organization and irrationalism of the anarchist movement.

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libertarian socialism is an umbrella term, and includes anarcho-communism

Basically this a good thread really should not die for this crap

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gonna check these while I'm at it

ew your ideology is just a meme don't touch me

remember to ignore annihl flags

I'm proud, but also very disappointed.

Anarchists coined the term libertarian and Bookchin is repackaged ancom called something else. Stop googling and read a book.


Whatever thread died was days old and abandoned.

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This. I personally describe myself as a libertarian socialism because I haven't read enough books yet to know more precisely what I want.

I also more or less agree with , even though I would add that Marxists aren't necessarily authoritarian (see Pannekoek and the Situationist International), and anarchist theory is definitely worth exploring.

Why the First Internationale had to split up? ;_;

Libertarian socalism is a spectrum, anarcho communism is an ideology

All these sectarians


this guy has the right answer

FTFY

Libertarian socialism is an umbrella term that anarchist communism falls under

One sounds less autistic than the other.

Arrange in desired permutation, they're all synonymous.

There isn't a difference they're both utopistic shit

Does De Leonism fall under Libertarian Socialism?

Depends on the individual, really. Anarcho syndicalism is generally the more libertarian of ideologies on the syndie spectrum, but I'd say many DeLeonists would classify as libertarian socialists, whereas a minority would not.

From what I've seen (very little) of DeLeon's writings, it seems as though traditional DeLeonism is more a means of establishing dictatorship of the proletariat than a minded attempt at libertarian socialism.

this was gud b8 i was triggered for a sec

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Syndicalism is collectivism not communism

Libertarian Socialism is an all encompassing term that stretches from Anarcho Communism to even statist forms of Marxism. It can be pro-state (even if every communist ideology is explicitly anti-state by nature) but also anti-state in the nature of Anarchist thought. Marxism and Anarchism both fall under it (but tendencies that adopt the centralized top-down approach aren't) whereas Anarcho Communism is a specific ideology.

Basically Anarcho-Communism is a Libertarian Socialist form of thought, but not all forms of Libertarian Socialist thought are Anarcho-Communist, nor are they inherently Anarchist.

Syndicalism is a way of organising worker struggles, not a mode of production. It's literally just revolutionary unionism.