I wanted to build on the thread about embracing /liftypol/, before it was taken over by NazBols

Yes.

I think you need to keep a log of your ammunition and note down the comings and goings of it as well. But it's been a while since I looked into it.

As far as I'm aware there are no regulations but obviously its Bongland so if you spook somebody you will most likely get vanned so I wouldn't just wander the streets firing it off

I wish I could afford guns. Soon though…

As for /liftypol/ hell yea I'm down with that. Gotta healthy body, healthy mind. Plus if it BTFO of Holla Forums, all the better

Lenin would force the bourgeois to watch as their much loved means of production is collectivized by millions of robust Russian working men.

There won't be a leftist revolution for another 20 years at best. Most of us will be too old to fight. Of course there is nothing wrong with getting fit but don't be larpy about it.

I think that would only mean most of us would be in our late 30s to 40s.

That's not to old to fight. And it just means we have literally decades to get super jacked.

isn't the nomral age limit for military mid 30s?

I don't see the larping aspects. I think the coming years will be marked by an increasing amount of riots and turmoil, so why not prepare for it?

The ideal solution would be to form a lefty shooting club but obviously that would require large numbers. Maybe near London it's possible. You also have to pass a police assessment and they have access to your medical records so if you're being treated for any kind of mental condition forget it.

There is no reason to not get fit

Only for enlistment, remember the officers can be old as fuck. Not that I have delusions of grandeur (it probably won't be me) but it would be essential to have some trained oldfags with experience to lead.

I'm kicking myself for not having thought of it sooner.

How fucking old are you mate? I always just assumed everyone on the board was under 30.

By that point I will be almost 40. Hell yes I can still fight.

Yeah but assuming shit hits the fan and we're as prepared as we'd like to be we wouldn't be the formal military we would be rebel paramilitaries and they aren't exactly famous for being picky.

I'm , , and . I just wanted to make posts that were capable of being tongue-in-cheek while genuinely motivating people. The lack of /fit/ threads on here (as well as other particular type of threads) is depressing and I feel we seriously need to get our shit together in regards to theory and fitness

Yes there are some of us that will be leftists next year too.

Well we could got to fight in Kurdistan

Welcome to the /liftypol/ swoletariat.

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It is incomparably more useful to study and try to convince people with arguments and figures than to waste time in muh gyms. Once you're "fit" what is the point? Get into street fights? So average people can point and scream and the "violent communists!!!!!"?

There's a myriad of reasons but I have a feeling you won't care about them because you just want to justify not taking care of your body. But I'll list some anyway

Here we go again.
"le werk out bro" is not health. Exercizing every day is health. Paying attention to your food is health. Getting SWOLE is not.
Nope.
Not an argument. Even then, so does moderate exercising every day. That's really the only reason why you do this. Everything else is bullshit.
Nope.
So does studying. Physical exertion is not "dedication".
Not an argument, awful tendency that you should not encourage. Teach people to respect study, good argumentation, and cool-headedness in a (potentially strong) disagreement situation instead.
How about don't. This is the only real outcome of this. People are more likely to want to start a fight with you in the first place if they see you're working out dude just like them bro.
muh delusion

You just have a dumb hobby that feeds you endorphin constantly and you can't accept it's stupid and own up to it, so you have to try and justify with terrible arguments that do not stand up.

Walking down the block and back is exercising, and sure, it's better than nothing, but its not on the same level as lifting.
Not arguments m8.
Of course it's an argument, and moderate exercising is a vacuous term. If you're just jogging you're using not exercising half of your body.
Another sick argument bro.
Ya bro, lifting is like doing cocaine, requires no effort or perseverance at all. I'm sure you understand how easy it is.
There's nothing to encourage; people will naturally listen to someone who looks impressive and who obviously spends a lot of time on their body, it might not be completely fair, but it's a fact, and it's spooked to disregard it at your expense because you don't like it.
It's not either-or.
How about you just did and now you're fucked because you refused to strength your sole way of physically interacting in the world.
That's fucking delusional. Bullies and hot-heads like easy targets, not someone who will give them a fight.
Why are you even fucking here then?
In what imaginable way is it stupid? And it's not a hobby, I don't particularly like doing it, but I recognize it's an important thing that needs to be done. Did you just come here to tell the people ITT who want to improve themselves to stop doing that and focus single-mindedly on what you think is important?

I'm not sure what you have against actually being fit, maybe you're a nerd (like me and probably like most people here) and you associate lifting with the dumb dudebros who bullied you or some shit, maybe you're just lazy and are trying to justify your own inaction. In any case, you should cease and go begin Starting Strength. It's never to late to improve.

Studying theory is important, and I don't think this idea is trying to replace studying theory. I think it's meant as a tool to recruit people who still haven't found leftists ideas or are growing tired of reactionary Holla Forums idpol.

Yes it would be great if everyone studied theory and we didn't have to think about how to recruit comrades. However leftypol is still exponentially smaller than the growing alt-right. What this idea is trying provide is entryism for this generation of alienated young men.

It's cool if none of this interests you, it obviously won't be mandatory for all of Holla Forums. All we're trying to do is figure out ways to get more people to join rank so they can come here and hear your dank theories.

Meme seized from /r9k/

lets shill /r9k/ again
boards.4chan.org/r9k/thread/37138905

Lifting weights is counterproductive as far as real fitness goes and it puts more money into porkies' pocket because they own the gyms.

If you want to be fit for a revolution, do calisthenics. It's free, you can do it anywhere and most importantly it starves porky.

If you're a real leftist and not some poser in a phase and ready to give this life up when he gets a job and a wife, then you'd do well to listen.

I'm down for becoming /leftychad/. By day we share and tweet Jimmy Dore to move liberals one step left into social democracy. By night we slay DSA tang and radicalize them by making them fall for us.

That means you have 20 years to get into awesome shape. Fit dudes can do iron man competitions into their 40s and 50s, my man.

Being physically fit is good for your health, meaning you won't die younger and will have more time to share that theory. Better cardiovascular health is linked to better brain health as well and higher testosterone (from a higher ratio of muscle to fat) gives you greater self-control. Test doesn't make you more violent, aggressive, or stressed. What it does do is raise your tolerance to stress, meaning you can debate liberals with a steely calm.

Listen to theory audiobooks while you exercise then, faggot.

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SEIZE THE MEANS OF ADDUCTION

It's not that hard or expensive to create a home gym if you have a spare room or enough space in the garage. All you need is a rack, bench, decent barbell, and set of weights. Most of that can be bought secondhand or built.

Calisthenics are shit, mate. Lifting builds muscle mass, and lean mass burns more energy just by existing than adipose tissue. It raises your metabolism and keeps you thinner. It also makes cardio both easier and harder. Easier because you have less fat sloshing around so you're more agile, but harder because you have more mass (and compact because muscle is denser than fat) to move and more muscle to flex when doing movements. Anybody who fights in a revolution would need to be strong enough to carry heavy shit as well, so if you run you better run with weights if you want to be accomplishing anything.

Also, if you can do this at all, practice walking and running on the balls of your feet. Shoes have fucked up the way we walk (thanks capitalism). Heel striking is bad for your heel and the rest of the joints in your leg. Our legs evolved to strike with the ball of the foot and use the ankle as a shock absorber. Your tendons are probably weak as shit from heel striking all your life though, so work up to running on the balls of your feet or you could hurt yourself.

Self Improvement is Fascism

Of course you can.

-I buy all my clothing at thrift stores and my SO is toying around with buying a sewing machine to make us clothes.

-I bought my laptop off Craigslist

-I grow tomatoes, apples and some herbs in the backyard. The rest is bought from a local co-op. I'm an ovo-lacto vegetarian so I don't need meat.

-SO and I share a car between us but most of the time I take the bus. Saves money, the environment and I get to read while on my commute.

Need I go on?

It's not on the same level.

IT'S BETTER THAN LIFTING

Lifting weights is only good for strength. Calisthenics gives you strength and muscular endurance. Why do you think armies around the world focus on calisthenics than lifting for their fitness tests?

Hint: Firefights involve running and shooting and carrying your rucksack everywhere whereas lifting hinders all of that except maybe the rucksack part but an argument can be made that heavy lifting can injure joints and would affect you being able to lift that rucksack for a long period of time.

Whenever I try lifting of any kind it totally kills my back.

Use that money for studying theory and for donating to those that need it! I donate to charities like the Food Bank.

A lot of people don't have the luxury of a spare room or garage.

Why do you assume I'm fat? I actually do calisthenics for reasons listed above. I also walk a couple of miles everyday for work. You gym rats need those fancy porky shoes not me.

SO DON'T LIFT HEAVY WEIGHTS

Be natural and do bodyweight exercises. There are plenty of calisthenic youtubers.

Before you lot go off to study theory, what the hell is a "nazibol"

Thrifts store and co-ops are still for profit m8. But if that matters to you, try to find a co-op gym, or just get a home gym.
Absolutely untrue. liamrosen.com/fitness.html#part4
Follow the links if you'd like.
You're not going to become particularly strong from calisthenics, and it improving endurance is on the same level as cardio.
Because they continue the same training from 70 years ago when soldiers would have to march miles to get anywhere. There's a lot of info out there on how outdated there training is.
Untrue. If you're especially worried about that then you can also do cardio.
Absolutely untrue. Lifting done properly will strengthen joints and fix lower back issues.
How would being able to carry lots of weight decrease your ability to carry a certain amount of weight for a long period of time?

If you're just sore that's fine, you probably have a weak back. If it actually feels painful and fucked up, you need to fix your form.

That's why you go to a gym. If you can't afford a gym membership, then lifting is outside of your means and you should instead focus on cardio and calisthenics.

That's just retarded.
That's even more retarded. Lifting increases your VO2 max and improves the cardiovascular system.
He's referring to all modern shoes which have heels and abnormal sole.
Naturalistic fallacy, and bodyweight exercises are not natural. For most of human history humans did substantial physical labor which involved a lot more than just moving your body.

Thrift stores use clothes produced with capitalism, and you are buying clothes that otherwise could be going to poor people. Your SO would need to use thread and fabric that is made outside of capitalism, also electricity for the machine. And let's not forget everything that goes into washing clothes.
It was still manufactured by slaves in the third world.
Being vegetarian doesn't make you socialist, and co-ops still operate within capitalism even though they treat workers better than capitalist enterprises.
Buses run on gas still, and carpooling or sharing a car has absolutely nothing to do with socialism.
No, you're very obviously a lifestylist.

It's not even close. Calisthenics isn't even good cardio, and a proper program incorporates both lifting and cardio. The best include hybrids, not some fucking P90X shit.
Calisthenics gives you almost no strength, and the endurance you get applies to your cardiovascular system but not your actual muscle strength. If you want to train strength-endurance you need to move against significant resistance for a long period of time. If you want a good example of this, look at rock climbing.
They don't. Soldiers have to pass lifting tests (as well as cardio tests), even if they're bodyweight tests like pullups.
>Hint: Firefights involve running and shooting and carrying your rucksack everywhere
This part is really important you dingus. Running with weights is much much harder than just plain running. Shit, running in regular clothes is significantly harder than running in gym clothes.
Lifting literally does nothing to hinder your ability to run with weights. You pulled this out of your ass.
You won't injure yourself if you use proper form and don't attempt to lift more than you can. There's a huge difference between lifting for health and functional strength and lifting to get huge (bodybuilding) or lift absurd amounts of weight (power lifting).

Calisthenics are for idiots. If you want to get somewhere, upgrade to something difficult like parkour or rock climbing. Jumping around and doing air punches is for stupid children who want to pretend they're doing exercise.
Lifting does not make you significantly bigger when it comes to being a target. This is the argument of a neckbeard who spends as little time as possible in the real world. Your frame and internal organs are going to change none from building muscle mass and the muscles themselves don't actually get very big unless you're juicing. Being "swole" is mostly just an illusion due to low body fat making the musculature more defined.
This is also negligible in a combat scenario. Firefights don't last that long. And your body adjusts to its own needs. If your build demands more oxygen, that demand will push your cardiovascular system to work harder and process oxygen more efficiently (which is why just by having more muscle mass will improve cardiovascular health).

Lifting doesn't stop you from doing cardio either.

Then lift very light amounts to build strength in your back. Make sure you have good form. Look this up, there are all sorts of diagrams to help you.

HAW HAW u funny nigga

these are actually good ideas basically what we need to do is start a gang, think wobblies but real /kommando and not just for labor, ive been thinking this for a long time but you need shekels to fund any kind of legit network

body weight shit is the shit, the scariest motherfucker in my battalion wouldnt touch a plateweight, hed have his fucking feet up against the wall doing pushups or other goofy shit like hindu squats

it also enables you to do the bare minimum and still stay lean, there are some good books on prison fitness that are extensive caliwathchamaclit guides, ive been too lazy to look into them im fine with my 4 exercises but ive heard good things

Who the hells gonna read that?

There are low-to-no-cost lifting solutions.

There's nothing "natural" or special about bodyweight. Bodyweight is actually a great intro to heavier lifting for people with no experience, but it has hard limits, particularly for your legs.

I don't. I think you're a spooky skeleton.
Oh fuck a couple of miles a day. I imagine you as fatter than I did before.
I'm talking about any shoes. The entire reason the heel is thick on the soles of running shoes is to accommodate heel striking. It's much better for you to be barefoot if you don't have broken glass and shit where you walk. Your feet evolved to walk and run without shoes. The reason everyone has skinny unattractive calves is they don't use those muscles properly when they walk.

I think you're looking for >>>Holla Forums

You must be super mad right now if you have to attack me. Why are you so eager to get everyone in the gym? From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs. Calisthenics would benefits leftists much better than weights. If you need my reasons, read my posts again but make a real argument instead of ad hominems.

I'm the first post you quoted and I never ad hominem'd you or even insulted you, nor have either us cherry picked your quotes.

Thanks, you patronising CUNT

another ally made

Nazbols are Russian Nationalists who want to be Nazis but they can't because Hitler considered slavics to be less than dogs, so they cling to the USSR.

So Russian Nazism minus the capitalism

Fuck off.

I don’t believe you.

Nigga we responded to literally everything you said. Insulting you isn't an ad hominem, it's just a little extra flourish on top of the refutations we made to your points.

I'm mildly mad that someone is spreading disinfo about health and fitness, but being mad =/= being wrong you child.
It's good for them, and by extension good for me. The mission of an egoist is to remove ugliness from the world, and that includes the wasted potential of other people who make up the world I live in.
wew
We already addressed why you're wrong. You just can't defend your ridiculous beliefs so you resort to shit like "getting swole makes you a bigger target"

Here's Chairman Mao to BTFO the dyels ITT

Absolutely untrue. Lifting done properly will strengthen joints and fix lower back issues.

How would being able to carry lots of weight decrease your ability to carry a certain amount of weight for a long period of time?

You broke my statement into two parts instead of treating it as one.

Carry on with your chin, doesn’t mean you are actually have a brain.

Oh well

How am I wrong? Strength training = training for strength. Calisthenics = bodyweight exercises that can give you strength but not as much as dedicated strength training but gives you better muscular endurance than strength training does. Muscular endurance is how long the muscle can go without getting tired. If you bench 300 lbs you're strong. If you can do 100 push-ups you have great endurance.

When I quoted Marx, I meant more the according to his needs. The guy with the back bad in this thread would be better served in fitness by calisthenics than deadlifting.

You guys didn't and made yourselves look like arrogant fools. Reported for trolling.

I mean Hitler would never discount people like you suggest. You must be a niggger.

Or a N3r

He said several times Slavs were shit. and they are

I bet I have paid more tax than you ever will.

TAXATION IS THEFT DONT TREAD ON ME DONT TREAD ON ME

Hitler will rise from the earth and fuck up bondage snakes like you.

>Muscular endurance is how long the muscle can go without getting tired at a given level of resistance
Fixed that for you. That's where you're wrong. Calisthenics is borderline useless for combat because in combat you're carrying around a bunch of heavy shit. In order to be good at doing that you have to do that, and doing lifts for functional strength gives you a good strength base to build from. I never said that doing only lifts is the right approach. The best lifting approach would be strongman type lifts using compound movements and lifting heavy shit over a significant distance.

100 pushups is a bit better than average endurance in a world where everyone is sedentary. It's not comparable to benching 300 lbs which is strong but nothing to brag about.

Deadlifting would be great for him, if he uses proper form and lifts the right (low) amount to challenge his muscles without putting too much strain on them. Deads are essential.

lol ok

you are being hilariously anal-retentive, banging on about his fucking LED veggie garden and how his ecological lifestyle is a lie, lel nigger

youre kind of mildly right I guess but you are just trying to score points and brag about rock climbing or some shit(?) the reality is so long as you arent a complete weakling you are going to be just fine doing fucking pushups, squats, situps and actually running around in fucking kampfstiefel with gerödel and rifle and shit, that a serious fucking workout especially if you are being drilled by someone competent(its not healthy longrun specially jogging in fucking boots but it werks)

I guess you could be bulky enough that it could be a hindrance in like really nasty mout scenarios a la syria or berlin crawling through cracks and shit but ultimately combat will come down to communication, solid training in maneuver warfare, decent riflemen and of course surprise initiative topographical knowhow etc not personal fitness, old men can make for some fierce fighters, just look at the kurds or this reluctant god of ukrop removal

one thing that IS true is its good to be a manlet, few inches less can mean difference between a scare and brain slushie if you have to bound or some shit

anyhow this conversation already feels hella gay to me, you ever done a bit anywhere, what do you burgerniggers call it again what is your MOS?

lol ok

At leastmy skull will make for a good shot in a panorama doc

Good shit for a flower clutching faggot. As a former fatass, any fatfucks here need to start walking tomorrow, doing 50-100 situps, and fix your fucking diet. It's basic, but that alone will get you going and losing weight. A month or two in depending on how fat you are start lifting two days a week, one upper and one lower, and spend 3 days doing fairly intense cardio and the other day taking long walk, with Sunday as an off day. When you're within 20 pounds of the weight you want to be try a bulking routine, while this may sound counter productive the extra muscle will replace and build on what you lost and give you more mass to burn calories, making the last 20 pounds of fat easier to burn off than if you kept cutting. You will feel a lot better and you will find pretty much everything being easier to do comrades.

A gang you say?

Hello FBI.

You can fuck off as well.
Hammer and sickle, do you know how to, gay arse larpers

took you long enough, sheesh, yall niggas need to work on them comms

NAZBOL GANG DE CHAPTER

REPRÄSENTIERE TIERE

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AMIGOHOME

EVERYTHING IS SERBIA

I SMELL A JEW CALL MEMRI NOW

bitch please if anything im MAD

i WHY COULDN’T I GIVE A FUCK WHAT YOU THINK.
a, I DONT HAVE TO
b YOU R A CUNT

Nazbol pls go>>1686881

I dont know why you couldnt give a fuck what I think, maybe you need to embrace 4pt and multipolarity to clear your head from all the hasbara

check this guy for ties to color revolution orgs

I was going to make a NazBol shitpost reply but that's what ruined the last thread so I'm just going to remind everyone to drop the memes an get back to the topic at hand - getting fucking shredded.

You hate the working classes aint as gay as you.

seems like you want to talk about getting fucking powerbottomed mein Freund, how are we going to raise birth rates internationally and defeat the globalist depopulation agenda if you exclusively want to be plowed by virile young men?

in order to be swole, first you must be alive

Nigga you need to get up pretty early in the morning to be as gay as me.

Im glad you posted that jap, he will destroy your theory.

my seids

Dont call me a "Nigga" you fucking fruitbowl.

To be honest I like both hard muscular men and soft thick women but I think we should also drop this topic as the thread looks like it's getting derailed into /leftygay/.

Gaylord detected NTS

My bad, kike.

hella gay

my seids

what the hell are you going on about?

It's /fit/ memes.

Liking muscular women is even gayer than liking muscular men.

Well done munkoid!

its 05:37 here right now and Im straight as a fuckin tentpole also taught and veiny

Post pics?

Here's some shit to help my comrades begin.

liamrosen.com/fitness.html
/fit/'s sticky post. Talks about general shit that's good to know, especially the nutrition and exercise part.
>play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.myfitnesspal.android&hl=en
Android app for counting calories and macronutrients so you can know if you're getting enough protein for those gains and whether you're improving your hungry skellington/Jovian-class hamplanet status. Really user friendly. Also has an iOS version.
>play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.c25k&hl=en
Android app for Couch to 2k, I haven't done this program but I heard it's really great for beginner cardio. Also has an iOS version.

Finally I added Starting Strength as a pdf. This is by far one of the best strength training programs. Don't get discouraged if it takes awhile for you to perfect your form, just keep working on it and improving.

Ultimately, lifting and general fitness isn't that complicated or difficult, only people who have no idea what they're doing think so. Once you create the habits then inertia will take care of the rest, and once you see what kind of improvement it's had on you, you'll be glad you started.

bUY ME BEER

Worrying.

i cant that would be entrapment we still have rules in my intelligence outfit unlike the feebs

This is crap, no body is going to read your shit, just go with whats natural.

Tad

pdf isn't going through, here's tpb link. thepiratebay.org/torrent/7328269/Starting_Strength_3rd_edition_2011_Mark_Rippetoe.PDF

direct magnet link
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alright I guess i misinterpreted the thread a little bit, you guys want to talk about bulking and shit thats absolutely fine but we should really have a thread about starting an internationalist militia that seems like it could be a solid idea and I have a feeling its on the tip of a few peeps tongues

I think /k mystique and weirdness might be a good Ansatz working towards some kind of Gestalt, theres something strangely unifying about traditional /k brand of innawoods stalker autism, at the very least its helped burgerboys appreciate slavshit, its probably a decent vector for rebuilding demoralised neets as well

im going to think about this shit and come back later when im not wasted

Start a /leftyk/ thread then m8. This is basically /leftyfit/.

I'm too much of a sperg to go the gym.

Even more reason to go. Gotta face your fears m8. You don't have to talk to anyone and they'll likely not talk to you, especially if you're listening to something.

If you're afraid of them looking at you, literally no one gives a fuck. At worse they'll look at you doing something retarded, have a chuckle, then forget about it. Shit, when I first started I know I did plenty of retarded shit that someone probably laughed at, but I'd rather be someone who was laughed at and fit rather than someone never laughed at and dyel.

The gym is the most autistic place in the world. It's literally dedicated to ritualistically doing repetitive things for extended periods of time.

That's why normal people find it so hard. If you're autistic it quickly quickly gets very easy.

Just posting to remind my fellow lifting comrades to lift with good form, life regularly and to get LOTS of sleep. Good luck everyone

I am mildly autistic and I can confirm it is soothing and in general a good experience for me. I like the repetitive movements and enjoy the regimented nature of the routine as well as the orderly way gyms are laid out and the constructed, highly refined etiquette that goes with being at the gym.