What are some good examples of leftist fiction...

What are some good examples of leftist fiction? Like the Culture series by Iain Banks and pretty much everything by Ursula Le Guin. Movies, music and games also accepted.

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Voyage from Yesteryear by James P. Hogan is pretty much "FALC, the book" and also great propaganda for AnSyn.

WASP, by Eric Frank Russell, is a thinly veiled terrorist handbook against fascist societies. On a sidenote, he also wrote the short story And Then There Were None, which though it lacked the FALC angle in favor of conventional non-automated AnSyn, directly inspired Voyage from Yesteryear.

The Retief stories are a parody of inept western interventionism in the 3rd world, written by a former member of the US State Department.

All of these are excellent stories, to boot.


Culture is idpol pandering trash wallpapered over with bitch-basic transhumanism hand-me-downs from cyberpunk. Le Guin is 1000% pure SJW cancer.

Early Stanislaw Lem.

Everything from Kim Stanley Robinson.

On a more liberal side i like to point towards modern scifi like Daemon by Daniel Suarez as potially inspiring and relatable for leftists.

In general checking out early(before they all where desillusioned) scifi from the various soviet states is really interesting.


Dont listen to him. Le Guin is worth a read, especially The Dispossesed.

Oh and Cory Doctorow is pretty commie nowadays.

Arthur C. Clarke usually didn't delve too much into economy or governance but his novels sometime tackle the problem of what people do when they don't have to work. His very first novel Against The Fall of Night is still one of my favorites of all time.

Could the Elric Saga be considered leftist? I know Moorcock self identified as an anarchist

Please, he's barely a step from Yudkowsky on the transhumanist spergometer.

If you want to go that route, Kaiba (anime by Madhouse) has infinitely greater philosophical depth on the subject and far less pretension. Not to mention Ghost in the Shell.

Franz Kafka's (who read Kropotokin) The Trial and The Castle obviously are must-reads. As you surely know, it deals with alienation and bureaucracy.

B. Traven's The Death Ship and The Rebellion of the Hanged are deeply anarchist adventure novels.

Hes still pretty liberal but an enyoable read for anarchists/socialists imo. Especially because he really hammers down the dangers of the surveilance state and corporate controll of information, which is an issue the radical left has completely given to the liberal left.

Also imo he has drifted pretty noticably to the left in his more recent works. Part of a wider trend where more and more authors ask themselves the question about the kind of society we will build after the collapse. And it often is an allmost socialist one. Recapturing the imagination and making an alternative conceivable despite this prevalent mood of doom and collapse will be important to shift the overtone window and mobilising masses to prevent encroaching fascism justified through the permanent crisis.

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What the fuck? She absolutely isn't

Star Trek is bretty much Fully Automated Luxury Space Communism

What about comics?

Frederick Pohl, Gateway and The Space Merchants are really good sci-fi satires.

Get the fuck out

I've only seen the movie, is the comic actually leftist? V himself is a great character, and the fight against the government is great, but the characterization of the "dystopia" is severely undercut by shitlibism:

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Hey you just said fiction you didn't specify books
Besides there are books too
Ok just watch Gundam. Best and most fair Lenin analogue in tv history

This. Some of the best anti-consumerism there is.

The movie is awful. It remove all the subtility, hardly talks about anarchism, change all of the characters, and add shitty patriotism.

The movie is one of the worst things I've seen in my life. It's a butchering of the original comics. Moore himself stated that:

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I have the comic. V is an anarchist and properly explains that anarchy isn't 'dude chaos lol'

Unfortunately she is.
It becomes more apparent the later in her career you get but she was always about that idpol and priding herself on virtue signalling. (e.g. going on tirades about how she was totally the most racially conscious author of her time because she wrote standard euro-fantasy but made all the people black skinned as a twist)

Tehanu is probably the prime example when she went full idpol, going so far as to destroy earlier characters and world-building in order to live out a feminist power-fantasy.

Moore is a bogstandard succdem petit-bourgie who humps the shit out of Labour all his pretensions aside.

The Young Guard - Alexander Fadeyev
The Rout - Alexander Fadeyev
We - Yevgeny Zamyatin
Red Star - Alexander Bogdanov
Notes from the Underground - Fyodor Dostoyevsky
What is to be Done? - N.G. Chernyshevsky
Animal Farm, 1984, Homage to Catalonia - George Orwell
Brave New World - Aldous Huxley
Heart of Darkness - Joseph Conrad
The Grapes of Wrath - John Steinbeck
In Dubious Battle - John Steinbeck
The Jungle - Upton Sinclair
The Death Ship: The Story of an American Sailor - B. Traven
The Dispossessed - Ursula Le Guin
Catch-22 - Joseph Heller
Mother Night - Kurt Vonnegut
Darkness at Noon - Arthur Koestler
An Enemy of the People - Henrik Ibsen
The Case of Comrade Tulayev - Victor Serge
Red Cavalry - Isaac Babel
The Foundation Pit - Andrey Platonov
Kolyma Tales - Varlan Shalanov
The Ragged Trousered Philanthropists - Robert Tressell
Looking Backward 2000-1887 - Edward Bellamy
The Iron Heel - Jack London
A Tale of Two Cities - Charles Dickens
Les Miserables - Victor Hugo
Bel-Ami - Guy de Maupassant
Germinal - Emile Zola
Faust, Part 1 - Goethe
The Foundation Trilogy - Issac Asimov
The Moon is a Harsh Mistress - Robert A. Heinlein
The Crab Cannery Ship - Takiji Kobayashi

We should do a chart.

The Invisibles comic book is a wild mish-mash of philosophies, conspiracies and wild ideation, but Holla Forums will probably consider it petty-bougie wankery. Which, to be honest, it is to a degree. Still a great read.


His buddy Alan Moore too.


It also kind of ignores the point that the would-be hero is a terrorist.


I got the Mars trilogy in my e-reader, but after finishing the first book, I can't bring myself to start the second, because all the sections rambling on and on about the geography of a fucking useless red desert really put a damper on the otherwise great story.


I'm fairly sure there's a couple already.


Well he supports Corbyn, which makes him a veritable Nechayev by modern standards.

Anyway, here's some "white identity" faggot getting triggered by him: theoccidentalobserver.net/2016/10/11/working-class-zero-the-political-autism-of-alan-moore-and-his-labour-party-friends-part-1/


Gonna need more details, Google isn't helping.

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This commentary on The Culture by Banks is pretty damn interesting.

I wonder how Cerebus would be if it was written by a leftist.

I don't like that it's all in separate parts but that's how it came from the university I stole appropriated it from

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confirmed for never having rest a single page of le guin

while its not explicitly leftist The Expanse series is pretty good

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Anarchism and science fiction

Pretty nice list!

Why the hate towards transhumanism? It's the only way to free ourselves from the material conditions controlling us.

Persona 5 is the closest a mainstream video game has come to being about leftist politics.

There's a significant faction on Holla Forums who are evangelical anti-scientists intent on winning an entirely non-existent war against STEMfags.

I'm not anti-STEM, quite the opposite, actually. My primary objection to transhumanism (and its antecedents, like cyberpunk) is that all of the people involved in it are uneducated blowhards with little or no actual experience in technology, often pretentious autodidacts. As a result, they anthropomorphize and fetishize technology in ways no real scientist with a working knowledge of technology would. Even ignoring STEM, these drooling fanbois typically lack any formal grounding in philosophy, politics, sociology, or psychology.

Compare them to the older generation of SF authors, like Clarke, Asimov, Heinlein, or Niven, who were professional scientists and engineers. Not to mention the prior generation of fantasy authors like Tolkien, who was a renowned student of mythology and folklore.

Beyond the fiction authors, are the actual professionals. "AI research", for instance, is a largely pseudoscientific con-job that has produced precisely nothing novel on the level of mathematical constructs since the 1970s, with basically every "breakthrough" handed to them on a platter courtesy of hardware engineers or neurologists.

was Herbert /ourguy/?

seriously, why is Dune so fucking aesthetic?

I'm sorry. You're an imbecile.

He's right, we're nowhere even close to understand how an AI could even be possible yet. Computers that are really good at Jeopardy or chess don't mean shit, a machine that is actually capable of creativity is basically a pipe dream at this point.

Show me one single AI application in the last 30 years that was enabled by better code, instead of faster CPUs.

The problem is hard, but I don't go around dismissing entire fields of important research just because they're hard. The progress we've made already has been huge, and that isn't diminished by the enormity of the challenge ahead of us. It's like dismissing aerospace research as "a largely pseudoscientific con-job" because we're still using chemical boosters and haven't invented warp drives yet. It indicates that he is astoundingly stupid.

Anarchism can work.

Anarchism can work, as long as you just leave an exception for an immortal omnibenevolent god-king.
I mean, you still say the sky is blue even though the space above it is black, so why not just say society is anarchist even though there is a god watching over it?

The difference is that there is currently not a single existing "AI" in the world. Aerospace engineering developed as a discipline after rudimentary planes were invented.

The movie took a story about an anarchist blowing up the government into a US-liberal wank fest over how much Bush is evil.

Catch-22 is such a good fucking book - as are the Grapes of Wrath & Les Miserables. Didn't realize the Foundation Trilogy had a leftist slant - was interested in reading them a long while back though.

I would say the Foundation trilogy was more technocratic than leftist. At least that's how i read it.

It's actually historical materialism

Still haven't got around to playing it - but I remember hearing the vague themes/ideals/plot previews being given by the game's director over the years were pretty exciting & very socio-politically charged & confrontational. I dunno how it lived up to all that - but for quite a while (even while I was still a *bleh* left-leaning liberal) I was pretty hyped about the potential messages of the game.

came here to say kafka

Oh absolutely, but when it comes to advocating a certain system to solve society's problems, Asimov was clearly sympathetic to the technocrats and it shows in his work.

There's like 8 or 9 books. And they were a nice read, but decidedly overrated.

The core 3 are the trilogy.
The others are considered lesser. .. I'll finish the trilogy at some point…

If we could get every insufferable 15 year old boy reading this instead of Atlas Shrugged the world would be a concretely better place, I think. While we're at it we should get them reading Michael Moorcock's Jerry Cornelius books (which is what the Gideon Stargrave bits in The Invisibles were ripping off directly).

I had to take a few months off reading the trilogy half way through for the same reason. Despite those speedbumps I would still say the series is a pro-read for any future-thinking leftist. I can also recommend 2312, which hits many of the same notes as his Mars Trilogy but is thankfully way more restrained with the autismal geology talk. comfy asteroid terrariums and futa gfs with birdsong neuron implants when


I'd argue that he pulls back from that conclusion with The Evitable Conflict - robots generalise the First Law to "A robot may not harm humanity, or through inaction allow humanity to come to harm", and Mary Sue self-insert Susan Calvin is extremely buttmad at the development

Only read the first book. Honestly, the characters were all so absurdly dysfunctional and annoying I couldn't bring myself to sympathize with them, their deaths were the only thing that brought me joy, and the "environmentalism" angle was nonsensical for Mars. Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri did the same thing infinitely better.

As excellent as it is, I don't think it really has much ideology, other than to stand back and look at the sweep of history, like Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire in space. Something similar in this regard would be Legend of the Galactic Heroes, one of the protagonists is even a historian!

He sure was anti-capitalist. Hydraulic despotism is one of the better arguments against the NAP.

What would formal grounding in philosophy even be?

I am absolutely certain that you have never programmed anything in your life and aren't in STEMM.


You will just claim that something isn't "really" AI.