Hi, /leftpol/.
Holla Forums here. One of your anons from yesterday in the Proof of Leftypol's fun thread recommended a video for me to watch by Xexizy (which can be found embedded). I had promised said lefty-user a review to the video and a thread dedicated to it on your board, which I am here to do now as I try to keep my word. A lot of the video itself is presentation of argument over presenting the argument, but I'll try my best and some things may get unintentionally skipped over. A lot of the video seems to be a direct 'attack' on Nazis, so I will just address them as I feel. Sorry if it is not a full or satisfactory review, for I have to write this all via cellphone and please forgive any typeos. I will be speaking for my views and not for Holla Forums's or anyone else's.
Hopefully the user I was talking to sees this. Thank you.
"There seeks to be a slogan almost among Nazis that we need to preserve our culture, our morals and tradition."
Personally, I see the Appeal to Tradition Fallacy to be valid. I do not see seek to preserve traditions or morals. I do aim to preserve culture. I do not aim to preserve a specific aspect of mine or anyone's culture, I aim to preserve the right to let my culture form and grow organically without forced or outside influences. To say that cultures do not change is outlandish. I do though aim to preserve our organic identity, despite our identity changing over time or reforming. The reason why I seek to preserve this organic formation is that it allows a people to know themselves, where they come from, their history and what may or may not work for them. This can be very helpful when making decisions that involve group behavior because it allows you to know what your group might naturally react to and how it might do so. Is it also important in knowing how a group has organically formed as this can tell us what selective pressures they have endured and how it reflects the group today.
"I want to make it clear: there is a difference between morals and ethics. Ethics are more about what's good universally. Morals is about what's socially acceptable in a giving society at a giving time."
Okay, so he gives me a hard definition here. So, by his definition, then yes, morals are not a necessity to preserve. If they were, it would fall under ethics as it is universally ''good" for everyone or the group.
"The idea is morals will always be changing. Ethics will only change when a philosophical idea changes, but that's independent from culture and society."
Well, by using his definition, ethics would be 'independent' from society and cultures as it is "universal" and therefore applies to no one society or culture. But, I would like to point out that it is very hard to say what is ethical conditions and or behavior because what is "good" for one group may not be good for another group, as personality of a group varies by regions (1).
"Anyone from any part of the world can contribute to understanding ethics."
Yes, but as said, it is very hard as it is to understand what is ethical to all groups.
"Cultural and morals are fluid. They only reflective a society at any giving time"
Cultural and morals are very fluid, yes, but I would argue that it is not only a reflective of that time, but reflective of present, past and future behavior of that group because personality is highly inheritable (2) and it can again tell us what selective pressures that group was under socially and how certain alleles in a group might have came to be.
"All arguments for preserving cultural is that our culture is objectively better or that we've had it for a while and we should keep it that way."
The argument for 'we should keep our culture the way it is' does have valid merit - to an extent. It you wish to preserve the objectively better aspects of your culture while reforming the 'negative' aspects of it, then this does have merit. It does highly depend on what aspects of your culture you seek to preserve. Personally, I take that view: that we should preserve what is measurably great about our culture and constantly work to reform what is not. As for what is the 'objectively' better culture - well, this can be measured and measured many different ways. Culture as being defined as "the cumulative deposit of knowledge, experience, beliefs, values, attitudes, meanings, hierarchies, religion, notions of time, roles, spatial relations, concepts of the universe, and material objects and possessions acquired by a group of people in the course of generations through individual and group striving" can all be measured individually in a culture and sorted into what is objectively better. Of course, all depending on what your criteria for measurement is.
