They hate the US government, and they're multiplying: the terrifying rise of 'sovereign citizens'

theguardian.com/world/2017/may/15/sovereign-citizens-rightwing-terrorism-hate-us-government

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youtube.com/watch?v=XQmzaQhZjfE
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If Trump purges them, between that and arming the YPG, he'll have accidentally become a quasi-/ourguy/

yeah, no, trump is absolutely not our guy, kys

I said quasi

Good, good.

They are mostly correct though. They just need to leave the last traces of racism behind and take the left-libertarian red pill

lel I remember reading a thread on here and all the anarchists hated on sovereign citizens for not hating the police the same way they did

never change /leftycuck/

I found this really odd tbh
why do anarchkiddies even hate sovereign citizens? Aren't they trying to be "ungovernable" like they do?

"Sovereign citizens" want to be on top of the hierarchy, not eliminate the hierarchy.

this doesn't even make sense
how are they trying to be on top? on top of whom?

I'm an anarchist and I think these guys are mostly correct. Like I said here they just need to drop their racist imaginary enemies

youtube.com/watch?v=xUgmc7kKqOI
they produce some good memes

They want to claim private property rights.

Nigga read at least a wikipedia article.

So they're AnCaps?

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Yeah, probably.

Essentially.

You cannot eliminate the dominance hierarchy since it governs how human females select mates which in turn selects for men who are good at climbing the dominance hierarchy.

that's rather tautological don't you think? and also human society isn't a pack of dogs ruled over by the 'alpha male' but a complex class based society. The true rulers of our world aren't super chads with supermodel harems and a mighty brood of children all from different women, but more often than not just childless finance/tech dweebs.

Grown men playing cowboys like it's the fucking Wild West with iPhones and the comfort of central heating. Them types reek of "my bitch of an ex-wife took everything and the dog" to me.

who cares about anarcucks?

Can we please not derail another thread about how hierarchy is "natural" or not. On topic please, mods help me out here

the only reason you're seeing this article is because they want to expand the list of people they can harass, hate and fuck with for not wanting to be harassed, hated or fucked with

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The guys from Street Fight Radio are leftist sovereign citizens.

streetfightradio.com/

Do you lads think the militia movement has revolutionary potential? I know many are libertarian, but they are not the cop worshiping cucked kind. Its not that much of a leap from hating the government to realizing big business and government are essentially the same people.

I know that these guys have a lot of idpol but I do think some have potential if they were engaged with constructively instead of just brushed off as irredeemable racists. Frankly it will be difficult to win without getting the right-wing militias and the demographic they represent on our side.

Oh yeah definitely. Here's an article written by a former militiaman turned full on class warrior:

redneckrevolt.org/single-post/2017/02/20/A-MESSAGE-TO-THE-PATRIOT-MOVEMENT

So far most of them are Holla Forums larpers.
While they have the potential of being dangerous, they lack fitness as well as brain to pull something off like blowing up a feminist bookstore.

Would be disappointed if their theme isn't
youtube.com/watch?v=XQmzaQhZjfE

Americans are pretty funny.
I do respect some of these people, it takes some courage to stand up to the police and take that shit to court. That guy in the truck at about 16:00 basically talked himself in to being arrested, and probably lost his job, because he felt the immigration inspection was impeding on his rights.
Personally I have, and will continue to brown nose the shit out of a police officer to avoid being arrested.

US balkanisation when?

so they're basically moderate stirnerites?

Not even meme Stirnerites. Apply yourself, user.

Never

ever.

There has to be some sort of term for this neurological condition, like bojack horseman syndrome or something.

A stirnerite would kill anyone whom got in his way, no matter the reason.

"cognitive dissonance" I think is the word you're looking for

lmao Brits

Fuck these people. I’mAmerican and there destroying my country. Fucking Porkies.

This is clickbait.

I've lived in southwest Arizona for decades. Those guys have always been there, and they are fascist useful idiots through and through.

You average hipster smashie is 10 times the threat to the state then any of these guys are.

[citation needed]

I don't understand your post.

Stirnerites always complain about everyone being in their way and they don't kill anyone.

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Look at how the state reacts to them. Smashies that set a limo on fire during Trumps innugranation are facing decades of jail time.

You had Bundy supporters literally taking positions and pointing AR-15s at FEFERAL BLM agents, they didn't get so much as a talking to.

Like I said lived around these guys for years, the state coddles the duck out of them.

Smashies damage someone's personal properties.

The bundy guys damage public properties.

Figures.

Huh, didn't know Trump got around to removing plea bargains without the press kicking up a stink

Also the maximum penalty on felony riot charges IS 10 years, not "decades", fuckwit

These people just don't like paying taxes at the end of the day. They don't care about the real crimes of the us government

Soveriegn citizens are common people who want to be able to be on equal footing with the rich/upper-class who gets away with everything. (essentially they want to plead "Affluenza", but don't have the money to bribe the judge)

Actual sovereign citizens would not vote at all.

You're just making shit up. Most of them literally just want to be left alone and really fucking hate the government and cops.

If their concept of private property is "Muh house, muh farm, and muh gun" then they can keep it.

Absolutely. Many of them already dislike capitalism, even though they call it "crony capitalism", while most of them are civic nationalists, not actual racists.

Half of that shit is untrue and doesn't apply to them, and it's exactly the type of shit a liberal would accuse them of.

That's exactly because when you have a gun, the government can no longer treat you as an uppity nigger and actually has to fine a way to deal with you without getting shot. There's a good (bunkermag I think) article talking about how the Left needs to get armed precisely people who are, like militias, actually have the power to force people to listen.

Another post of just making shit up.

No you're my property

The state coddles them. You racists fuckwads aren't fighting against anything. When push comes to shove you'll line up behind the state to protect your property

These guys are a bunch of punks. I lived in Sierra Vista AZ around the minute men.

The only people these punks ever tried to hassle was unarmed immigrants and fascist cops.

And they are fucking pedo like a motherfucker. They're like medieval levels of women haters so they can only get laid by their daughters.

The minute man leader got thrown in jail for being a pedo, believe me they were allllllll like that

I should be clear, they hassled fascists cops that coddled them, let them get away with shit that they'd shoot anyone else over

Do you see my fucking flag?

And if the state does coddle them, it's for the reason that they know what they're capable of. Every time they deal with a militia or sovereign citizen, they think of Ruby Ridge, Waco, OKC, or the numerous gunmen who have shot traffic cops. They coddle them because they fear what they can do, because having a gun is power. Whereas they don't give a fuck about a smashie because the worse they can do is throw a few punches or break some windows.

Kindly slit your wrists. Remember, it's down the road, not across the street.

Hit a nerve?

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These minute men mountain guys are backwards and reactionary as fuck, just meeting then you can tell.

I lived around them for decades, they're cruel and patriarchal af, pedophile is right up their alley

So when you say they're pedophiles, do you mean by the US definition, or by the rational definition?

back to reddit with you

Who the fuck are you and why are you getting so butthurt that some guy just mentioned in passing that some backwoods freemen militia happens to be full of pedos?

Why, I'm a member of the evil NAZBOL GANG, sent by Holla Forums to subvert and destroy the nascent socialist movement, of course! Wasn't this covered in the manual?

If ghost in the Shell is anything to go by, when Posadism

Yes, I see your lifestylism

Kill yourself, poser faggot

You're mad

2010 cuckchan called, they want their memes back.

They're also very afraid of armed street thugs, but the difference is street thugs usually don't start shooting and if they do, it's usually just one guy, it's over in one second, and he's the only causality. Whereas when you're dealing with militias or sovereign citizen types, they usually have a pretty good K/D ratio, and best case scenario if something goes wrong is you have another Waco.

You're delusional if you think cops coddle militia-types because they identity with them or some stupid shit like that.