Thoughts on Castro & the Cuban Revolution

So Holla Forums, what're your thoughts and opinions on Fidel Castrov the 26th of July Movement, the Revolution, and the subsequent M-L style state? Please give detailed posts, & try to avoid memery & buzzwords - looking for real discussion.

Here are some cool Jacobin articles on the topic -
jacobinmag.com/2016/07/cuban-revolution-left-intellectuals-new-york-imperialism-fidel-castro/
jacobinmag.com/2015/06/cuban-revolution-fidel-che-raul-castro/
jacobinmag.com/2016/12/fidel-castro-cuba-revolution-working-class-steve-cushion/

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inthesetimes.com/article/19677/the-left-fidelity-castration-slavoj-zizek-fidel-castro-cuba-che-communism
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thoughtsofaeurasianist.wordpress.com/2016/11/26/the-social-nationalist-revolution-in-cuba/

It was a progressive revolution and ultimately a good step for Cuba.

However, it was not a worker/socialist revolution and thus Cuba should not be considered a state that is transitioning to socialism (quite the opposite, in fact, Raul's been pretty open about his desire for a capitalist Cuba).

from the most isolationst to the most globalist:
albania; north korea; cuba; vietnam; china
you choose to consider it socialism tbh

Better than what it replaced but nowhere near as good as it could have been.

He was a true comrade ultimately hampered by the US imperialist machine which has already taken Cuba back from Soviet power

Unironically the best leftist revolution of the 20th century.

This.

Under the circumstances Cuba faced throughout it's post-revolutionary period, there was almost no chance that it could have progressed meaningfully towards its intended communist goals. Castro probably did the best he could have and did at least better the lives of the Cuban working class at large.

youtube.com/watch?v=fSLCR6g2IaE

Pretty damn cool

castro is /ourguy/

Castro as a figure is pretty cool, he was perhaps the most human communist leader of the 20th century.

youtube.com/watch?v=M0lcm7MtPpk

‘Castro should be forgotten as soon as possible’ - Slavoj Zizek

inthesetimes.com/article/19677/the-left-fidelity-castration-slavoj-zizek-fidel-castro-cuba-che-communism

youtube.com/watch?v=mRkNDHW3nog


20th Century nostalgia must be abandoned or you will remain dead like the 20th century Left.

Oops, I forgot we have to do everything the meme man says.

Except that slavo zizek is a retard and fidel castro was smarter hismelf.

lol

Cuba is a shithole, Castro was a dictator that the Left apologizes for because he's anti American.
Zizek is far more intelligent than Castro ever was.

Speaking as a latin american he is a fucking giant to us, he was the first one to show us liberation from US imperialism in Latin America was possible. Castro did nothing wrong.


Lmao, zizek can eat a dick.

Cuba is a "shithole" because of imperialism. Still Castro was able to improve things there massively in spite of that thanks to Marxist-Leninist theory.

I do think a mixed & critical look at Castro & his legacy is warranted, but I also hardly think we should throw out the baby with the bathwater. He was undoubtedly the most successful M-L style revolutionary, & the most humane. Putting aside memery, Stalin was a shit & Mao, while promising at the start, also became a pretty wretched dictator. As much as liberals like to run with the "100 gorillions" bull-shit, the USSR & other M-L styled states were a far cry from innocent.

Castro and his revolution though seems to be the most personally, and ideologically genuine of these movements. While he definitely had his flaws, he was overall a positive figure who did his best. I can see where Zizek is coming from, in the sense that now that Castro's heavily flawed regime is over, there's no use wistfully longing for what ultimately was an incomplete movement riddled with problems, but I highly disagree that we should simply throw out everything about Castro. He was a deeply flawed but also inspiringly heroic comrade, who did the best he could for his country and for socialism under the conditions given.

Yes let us listen to sniff man

Perhaps we must discard hero worship of the revolutionaries of the past, but I don't think we need to forget them. Learn from them but not abandon them.

You need to go back

Castro's my waifu tbh

zizek isn't even a leftist anymore tbh

Castro headed a revolution, materially supported other revolutions in the world and ran a country. He read voraciously and worked well into his old age. Even his would be assassins from the CIA said that Castro was a very capable and hard working man.

I wouldn't underestimate his breadth of experience just because his country failed to transition into socialism, for the opinions of an academic like slavoj who says that he dislikes working with people and all he wants to do in life is read books.