So Holla Forums, what're your thoughts and opinions on Fidel Castrov the 26th of July Movement, the Revolution, and the subsequent M-L style state? Please give detailed posts, & try to avoid memery & buzzwords - looking for real discussion.
It was a progressive revolution and ultimately a good step for Cuba.
However, it was not a worker/socialist revolution and thus Cuba should not be considered a state that is transitioning to socialism (quite the opposite, in fact, Raul's been pretty open about his desire for a capitalist Cuba).
Anthony Lopez
from the most isolationst to the most globalist: albania; north korea; cuba; vietnam; china you choose to consider it socialism tbh
Matthew Perez
Better than what it replaced but nowhere near as good as it could have been.
Nolan Cook
He was a true comrade ultimately hampered by the US imperialist machine which has already taken Cuba back from Soviet power
Jonathan Rodriguez
Unironically the best leftist revolution of the 20th century.
Lucas Hall
This.
Under the circumstances Cuba faced throughout it's post-revolutionary period, there was almost no chance that it could have progressed meaningfully towards its intended communist goals. Castro probably did the best he could have and did at least better the lives of the Cuban working class at large.
20th Century nostalgia must be abandoned or you will remain dead like the 20th century Left.
Christopher Wright
Oops, I forgot we have to do everything the meme man says.
Austin Harris
Except that slavo zizek is a retard and fidel castro was smarter hismelf.
Bentley White
lol
Cuba is a shithole, Castro was a dictator that the Left apologizes for because he's anti American. Zizek is far more intelligent than Castro ever was.
Lucas Williams
Speaking as a latin american he is a fucking giant to us, he was the first one to show us liberation from US imperialism in Latin America was possible. Castro did nothing wrong.
Lmao, zizek can eat a dick.
Ayden Jones
Cuba is a "shithole" because of imperialism. Still Castro was able to improve things there massively in spite of that thanks to Marxist-Leninist theory.
Nicholas Parker
I do think a mixed & critical look at Castro & his legacy is warranted, but I also hardly think we should throw out the baby with the bathwater. He was undoubtedly the most successful M-L style revolutionary, & the most humane. Putting aside memery, Stalin was a shit & Mao, while promising at the start, also became a pretty wretched dictator. As much as liberals like to run with the "100 gorillions" bull-shit, the USSR & other M-L styled states were a far cry from innocent.
Castro and his revolution though seems to be the most personally, and ideologically genuine of these movements. While he definitely had his flaws, he was overall a positive figure who did his best. I can see where Zizek is coming from, in the sense that now that Castro's heavily flawed regime is over, there's no use wistfully longing for what ultimately was an incomplete movement riddled with problems, but I highly disagree that we should simply throw out everything about Castro. He was a deeply flawed but also inspiringly heroic comrade, who did the best he could for his country and for socialism under the conditions given.
Brandon Perry
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Jonathan Williams
Yes let us listen to sniff man
Perhaps we must discard hero worship of the revolutionaries of the past, but I don't think we need to forget them. Learn from them but not abandon them.
Connor Perry
You need to go back
Xavier Diaz
Castro's my waifu tbh
Nicholas Sanchez
zizek isn't even a leftist anymore tbh
Robert Clark
Castro headed a revolution, materially supported other revolutions in the world and ran a country. He read voraciously and worked well into his old age. Even his would be assassins from the CIA said that Castro was a very capable and hard working man.
I wouldn't underestimate his breadth of experience just because his country failed to transition into socialism, for the opinions of an academic like slavoj who says that he dislikes working with people and all he wants to do in life is read books.