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Can anyone teach me about National Bolsheviks?

I hate the damn rich jews, rich niggers, rich asians, seems like it's the perfect ideology for me.

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Maybe read about socialism first.

I'm already a Not Socialist so I'm trying to go beyond to National Bolshevism.

Why don't you just hate the capitalists regardless of their identity?

Cuz some are my people, some are not, famalam.

What about the rich whites?

It's a big meme

I'm white, why should I kill my own people?

Nazbol is a meme ideology. You try to be anti-capitalist and right wing, the same thing that happened to Str*asser will happen to you

But all ideologies are technically memes?

I think it's a cult of Stalin which hates jews!?

Because it would be nice if as a socialist you wanted socialism which necessitated eliminating capitalism.

Killing my own people ain't nice, fuck off.

Those people are exploiting you and leeching off people regardless.

Does that mean you won't kill us leftists then, considering most of us are white? And by your logic you may have to kill a majority of Holla Forums.

Races don't exist. Capitalists do not care about who they are exploiting or whatever the color of their skin may be.

They are my people, we are in this together.

But I'm a leftist.

A nigger, kike or gook ain't my people.

But I care, so?

I don't kill my people.

All four of them?

I'm not sure how accurate this is, but it was the only reading list I could find.

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Yes, I cannot stand a sight of one.

Only my people are allowed to be rich in our nation.

Sounds dope famalam.

I'm a prot but these orthodox sound like they mean business.

So you don't want socialism?

I want socialism for my people.

Of course you do, Holla Forums, like all idpol, doesn't care about who is cracking the whip, just as long as it's one of their own doing it. You are a shill for capitalism.

But why?

why?

Capitalism doesn't care about my people.

I care for my people.

Cuz they are the best and they deserve the best.

To have socialism, even if limited only to your nation, you need to get rid of capitalism, even if only in your country.

On a second thought. It's funny Evola is mentioned when he specifically relished in struggle. (See Metaphysics of War)


Sounds miserable. One thing I like about Rojava and the YPG is that they don't promise paradise. They are very clear that they stand for struggle.
It's was one of the appeals of Not Socialism. To quote Orwell:

“[Hitler] has grasped the falsity of the hedonistic attitude to life. Nearly all western thought since the last war, certainly all “progressive” thought, has assumed tacitly that human beings desire nothing beyond ease, security, and avoidance of pain. In such a view of life there is no room, for instance, for patriotism and the military virtues. Hitler, because in his own joyless mind he feels it with exceptional strength, knows that human beings don’t only want comfort, safety, short working-hours, hygiene, birth-control and, in general, common sense; they also, at least intermittently, want struggle and self-sacrifice, not to mention drums, flag and loyalty-parades … Whereas Socialism, and even capitalism in a grudging way, have said to people “I offer you a good time,” Hitler has said to them “I offer you struggle, danger and death,” and as a result a whole nation flings itself at his feet”

Eudaimonic values are poison to the soul.

Meant Nat*ional Soc*ialism.

So how do you get rid of capitalism but not killing my people?

Why do you support capitalism then?

But I don't, I only support my people.

I believe it would be really fucking hard considering that one of the requirements to abolish capitalist is dismantling capitalists as an economic class and said capitalists wouldn't probably agree with your sentiment of not being capitalists anymore and, by extension, abolishing capitalism.

The modern diluted commodified conception of it? Let's assume as a thought experiment that you're German (I obviously don't know your ethnicity).

Who would "your" people be? Other "whites"? Just German speakers? Germans but not Austrians? Bavarians?
The downfall of local communities and traditions has been going on for over two centuries now. The "Nation-state" has withered away cultures. A nondescript rootless mass of global cosmopolitans is just the end stage of its evolution.

Cultures, legends, people…. they constantly emerge and die. But they require heroes, struggle, all the sort of things severely lacking in the modern capitalist world.
The Nazis tried to recapture something that was already lost. The modern decadent risk averse societies need to be pruned in order to allow new authentic cultures to rise from the ashes.

So we should go back to feudalism.

Yes other whites.

They are my people, the best people. And I ain't going to let them down.

When it comes to economy feudalism is pretty feudalistic rather than socialist, just saying. And I'm not sure people would approve of becoming serfs.

Race doesn't exist.

Why not?
We would be united under a single monarchy, who rules by divine right of conquest.
The merchants would be allowed to exist, but can have their properties taken at any times.


It does to me.

This is what you support? Because what? You share a skin color?
A society devoid of morals, meaning, decency, heroism, purpose or any metaphysical essence greater than its material goods?

If the current structure led to this situation, what point is there in saving it? We need new cultures, new legends. Based on excellence, heroism and raw struggle.
I was like you once, but then I realised I have nothing more in common with these people.
Culture is important, unlike what some here might argue. And proximity breeds familiarity, and familiarity shared lineage.
But whatever we have today is no longer worth saving, we're beyond that point. Whatever calamity might arise from its collapse will create a new strata of excellence from which new nations will be born.

In general the problem with reinstituting feudalism lies in the fact it's nigh-impossible to implement it with our modern-day urbanization, since the agrarian economy would be pretty quickly subsumed by urban capitalist market exchange, which means you'd be back at capitalism pretty quickly.
So pretty much you have a choice to wither deal with some variation of capitalism because "no killing my own people", or force capitalists to give up being capitalists and move to socialism even if it resulted in some blood, the choice is yours.

Uh, yes, they are my people.


It's pretty easy, just look at how corporations are run.

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Once upon a time "nations" weren't just based on appearance, but shared beliefs, struggles, values and traditions.

Looks alone don't make a people.

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Isn't that an oxymoron..?

Unfortunately the Nazbols isn't well liked here and I like to know more the Nazbolism as well.