Ok Holla Forums let's make a "what if" game

Ok Holla Forums let's make a "what if" game.

What if Hillary won?

Antifa would not exist.

Pretty much the same. Less drama.

mostly the same but a lot of the really bad stuff Trump has been doing (bombing syria, fucking with public education) would be normalized and get a free pass in the media and from liberals.
What if Gary Johnson won?

We'd get the same shit but with a smiling face, so a lot less people would be complaining about it.

this is the only thing that liberals accepted from Trump.
No liberals blamed Trump for bombing.
The normalization happened Trump or not.

Hello Muke

Not much, DSA would probably be 15k instead of 20k. She'd be a 1-term president.

Holla Forums would have not invaded every other board
the alt-right would have died much faster. Now is only dying slowly.

Same thing would have happened

Same thing as now except she would be prez

As opposed to:
The opportunity to finally distance ourselves from Liberalism would probably be the only thing that could make me consider wishing Shillary won

Quite the opposite, my friend. Trump's election is ensuring the death of the alt-right. Just take a look at the legacy boards on here like Holla Forums or Holla Forums, people are sick and tired of Holla Forums.

Exactly. I remember the "he's STILL not my president but I support our troops" shit on twitter.

interesting pov


Can you explain me why the alt-right (not the old-fashioned far-right) would have survived without positive reinforcements considering that they are mostly a culturally empty movement?

What if the nihilist movement succeeded?

is the same think also happening on 4chan?

Holla Forums's infection has always been worse here than on 4chan.

*thing

What if this succdem won?

what if the KGB coup was successful ?

Would have accomplished nothing other than to show the failure of reformism, which translates to the failure of "socialism" to normalfags.

The aut-right defines itself in opposition to a perceived SJW establishment. If Clinton had won it would have reinforced their persecution complex and inspired them to act in unity against their imaginary enemy. With Trump winning the election, they lost all claim to being a radical opposition party. Even worse, now that Trump is proving to be just another puppet in a neoliberal system their base is splintering. Their big daddy has betrayed them, and now they lack a coherent focus.

Oh ye of little faith

Swap low Autism Level for low energy.
Jeb beat Al Gore by electoral college win. Does he do anything different than his brother?

In terms of policy, nothing changes.
However, because of the symbolic opposition in politics she'd spawn a reaction that would add fuel to the fire that is the alt-right. Trump's victory and his fuck-ups now that he is in office are the worst thing that could ever happen to Holla Forums.

While they keep LARPing, the DSA is growing. I'm glad Trump won.
[spoiler]I know the DSA isn't revolutionary, but they're a good measuring tool of socialist sentiments. Remember this is the USA.
Bernie getting as far as he did was already a miracle.[/spoiler]

Is it just me or do spoilers randomly not work? Did I do anything wrong?

It's funny because with the likes of Nick Land, they could have continued to gain steam and actually develop into a full-blown fascistic movement if it weren't for Trump. The way it happened, they were coopted and dispersed in much the same way that leftists have been by Lenin or Chavez (take power, don't change much, associate yourself with a movement; when capital falls into crisis as usual, you're the face of its management and so is the idea/movement with which you've aligned yourself).

Same thing as what I'm saying above. The only alternative to capitalism is immediate large-scale communization. It's not a question of "can", it's a statement of "is".

USSR might have struggled along for another 40 years before imploding anyways. In best case scenario, they would have purged the bureaucracy with military force and cyberneticized the economy in an efficient, holistic manner, thus setting the stage for the soviets to potentially self-govern (which would never happen as the KGB would never give up power, but it would be extremely possible).

Seeing as Russia was the global epicenter of reaction, it probably would have resulted in the collapse of monarchism as French republican ideals spread through Germany and then to England and Austria-Hungary. I doubt that they would have been able to maintain their barracks-communism for long, but it would have been a moment long enough for reaction to lose its hold. What it means for imperialism is a little bit more complicated. There would be no Great Game, for one, as the nihilists would, like the Bolsheviks, probably lose a lot of territory in a civil war to put the next-in-line on the Russian throne. Worst case scenario, Britain takes over large swathes of Siberia and it becomes impenetrable to outside powers, only vulnerable to working-class resistance tearing it apart from the inside out as capitalism reaches an effectively global economy within the borders of a single country.

Put two asterisks at the beginning, two asterisks at the end. What you did wrong was to hit enter in the middle. It requires a new set of spoilers on every paragraph to work.

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The alt-right's base is splintering, not necessarily Trump's as a whole.

In h8chan, there is a different manipulation to get spoilers

thanks

I didn't even consider them. Britain would have probably taken over for a few years and then be displaced by the Japanese in the 1880s due to its over-extension. After all, the Trans-Siberian Railway had not yet been constructed and the Meiji Restoration and concurrent industrialization were only getting under way by the 1860s, when the nihilist movement was at its strongest in Russia.

Holla Forums would blame us and autistically screech at us slightly louder. They would go from smug cunts to whiny cunts. The TPP might still be lurking in the wings instead of him trying to rez the TTIP, but the House n Senate might be more gridlocked.


oh boy here we go

This is going to be interesting because there's almost certainly going to be a recession before the next election.

The question (and this is true for the upcoming British election too) is whether it will come soon enough for Trump and May to survive it by pushing it far enough into the past. (Though due to various long-term issues Labour will probably lose again anyway. In 1992 the economy was in a terrible state and the governing Conservative party still got a 3rd term. Different rules of the game.)

id up my prepping level from 3 to 8

We would have to deal with Hillary's enormous ego instead of Trump's.

Instead of the combination of Nixon's corruption and Reagan's dementia, we'd have Bush's war crimes and Obama's media love.