Haven't seen a thread on this so deciding to post. Holla Forums pol is trying to make Berkeley 2.0 by holding a "Free Speech" rally in Boston Common today at 12 PM. They have a permit from the city and are trying to LARP it up.
In response, Boston DSA, Boston ISO, Boston SAlt, the Boston Public Library Union and the Massachusetts Teachers Union, along with various progressive and SJP student groups have all united to shut them down. Antifa will be there against the wishes of all the socialist groups to try and LARP too : - )
During their planning meeting last Wednesday, Holla Forums pol infiltrated and then doxxed some people who were on the sign in sheet. Luckily they didn't get to any central stuff because all the socialist orgs have good Tech Security working groups.
Most likely the lefties will drown out the alt right by the hundreds. There are going to be massive amounts of people from the socialist orgs collaborating as well as 100-200+ antifa.
Holla Forums will make videos of antifa looking silly antifa will make videos of Holla Forums looking silly dummies will come here with screenshot and roleplay online, no live action part.
Asher Gonzalez
The aut-right looks gay and we get meme material. Holla Forums also denies being involved after they all look retarded.
Liam Foster
Will there be any actual white nationalist/fascists/natsocs or just the aut right ?
Adam Miller
Begorrah!
Liam Lopez
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Camden Butler
I dont know what the Alt right is and neither do you.
The only difference is that Im prepared to admit I dont know.
Zachary Cook
It will probably be like HWNDU where pol are all sorts of diverse races and backgrounds and the liberals are all white males in college.
Landon Turner
both if previous turnouts are anything to go by
Christian Sanchez
Oh boy…
Jason Collins
idk, but I hope this girls shows up again
Dylan Hall
How's this not white on white gang violence at this point? Nevertheless I hope ANTIFA mops the floor with The Proud Boys/F.O.A.K.
Nicholas Ortiz
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Cooper Jenkins
"We must secure the existence of our people for a future for white children!"
Joseph Adams
MFW Pol is the diverse melting pot that Leftypol wishes it could be one day.
Cameron Allen
LOL Just thought of that.
Isaac Jenkins
Young Nigel Farage?
Aiden Rivera
nothing new here.
Gavin Campbell
they're a toxic stew of the ideologies you mentioned + some lolbert sympathies and a ton of general MAGAtards.
its main purpose is for actual neo nazis, fascists, WN and Nazis to rebrand themselves to appear more appealing to the mainstream while at the same time using whatever minorities they can scrape together, lolberts and general MAGAtards (AKA the "alt-lite) to be shields against criticism (and literal human shields at rallies).
Josiah Reyes
indeed
Wyatt Rivera
Just admit you dont know rather than making things up.
Jackson King
*And an Octoroon professional streamer
Benjamin Edwards
who?
Gabriel Lopez
Brittany Venti.
Cameron Martin
Who?
Lincoln Sanders
"Diverse" (all absolute reddit nerds) melting pot that unironically bows down to spooks
Dylan Nelson
lefties should just stop showing up to this shit
let them walk around in lacrosse helmets and captain america shields looking like fat autists for absolutely nothing lol
Carter Baker
That girl 4Chan trolls on Twitch. The girl that was at the HWNDU live stream.
David Peterson
not an argument. also i would like to point out that Xexizy mentioned something related in his newest video on Anti-fascism, whereas even though many people on the right may not be literal fascists, they begin to conglomerate with fascists after multiple crises of capitalism make it the only option to protect private property. essentially having lolberts, "classical" liberals, center-rightists, etc. side with fascists just because they're not socialists.
Pol hates spooks (black people) but some of pol are spooks.
Dominic Jenkins
I still dont think you know what alt right is Dont worry though, nobody does but you raise a good point.
But I do agree that the left lowering the bar for what a fascist is (so it basically covers anyone) is pushing people towards the right and towards pol.
Angel Murphy
Max Stirner spooks or 19th Century Black-Americans?
Parker Phillips
I've come to the conclusion that while street fights might work in Europe; in America the fash has guns. Currently antifa is just LARPers who'll have no real effect in the even we really do undergo a fascist coup.
Andrew Smith
well then arm yourself and convert as many people in the military as possible.
Carter Miller
The fascists' strength ain't in firepower though. Those are just for show. The hardline ones know bout bad PR so they tend to infiltrate police departments and get away with their terrorism that way.
Evan Baker
It's actually a secret NAMBLA cabal that operates in the darknet but uses MAGA rallies to meet up and hide in plain sight among fellow True Americans.
why? it's good for breaking morale.
good, it was just a matter of time anyway, that's how it's always been, there were no conservatives fighting against Franco and very few against Hitler.
Xavier Diaz
the entire thing is people who want to play American Gladiators like its the late 1960s. we are living in a farce of the 60s.
Nolan Richardson
I don't think guns matter. Nobody's been shot at any of these events yet
It's just that these future divorced dads are itching for another Berkeley in every city across the US and fantasize about that moment when they finally have a bluepilled shill cuck in their sights and they bring down their trashcan lid on his head and become the next le based meme guy on youtube.
I don't know why we should feed that fantasy. Let them show up in the summer their armor of +5 autism with nothing to slay
Aiden Mitchell
Minnesota broke morale. Berkeley didn't.
Caleb Cox
To me that is the ideology of the doomed. You push people away then blame them for not being part of your group that you pushed them away from.
Dylan Thompson
This. Why's it always middle-aged right wing guys toting AR-15s in public like they're bad? They think they're Clint Eastwood, but all I see is a guy whose ex-wife took everything.
Jayden Butler
I fully agree. We should make a meme out of "Where's your rifle, Holla Forums?"
Thomas Harris
that wasn't the point i was making. only attack lolberts, classic libs, etc. when they're literally protecting or have turned into fascists.
note that at the center off all of this is fascism. antifa never intended to say "anything i dont like is fascism durr". this is mainly a narrative pushed by liberal and right wing pundits to disarm antifa of legitimacy. what antifa wants to do is crush actual fascists, and most of the time at these "free speech" rallies, actual fascists who don't give a fuck about free speech and are only using it as a shield for criticism to protect their organizing are present (note the amount of literal self proclaimed fascists at the "Berkely brawl" last month). unfortunately, a bunch of classical libs and lolberts show up to defend them without knowing what the fuck they're doing, but we can talk with them later. we shouldnt just let fascists get away with organizing because they have enough human shields to protect them.
Tyler Rogers
You really think people will feel sympathy for the left because your moral got broken?
Thomas Bell
No one is pushing them away, they just follow the logical conclusions of what they already believed. Liberal democracy is a farce.
Kayden Sanchez
remember kids: all cops are bastards
Justin Thomas
But you can find lots of examples of them saying precisely that. They should have followed the saying 'Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt'
Very impressive recurring digits. I know lots of former leftists who feel pushed away. Because they dont agree with the identity politics pushed by Antifa et al.
Nicholas Peterson
Fuck you.
Carter James
wew didn't know spooks also refers to black people.
Bentley Ramirez
Nah, but The F.B.I. actually released a report stating that far-right groups had infiltrated police departments all across America though.
Sebastian Butler
It's not identity politics to attack class collaborationist authoritarians, it's political violence.
Luis Clark
Thats what most people would think of first when you say spook.
Not everyone lives in leftypol.
Zachary Edwards
Exactly.
James Nelson
That is possibly true but I wasnt talking about that.
A lot of lefties I know are in to old school equality so the modern oppression Olympics stuff that the left has bought in to now makes them very disillusioned.
James Martinez
a bit of free advice. Boston just got into a national controversy because a visiting baseball player was called a nigger. The city is renown as one of a very small few which are actively hostile to black players and will antagonize them racially. This is at sporting events. If you think you little limp-wristed commie fags are going to go into Boston and do anything besides stand quietly and peacefully with your stupid signs, you are in for a world of getting the shit stomped out of you.
But hey, good luck. I'm sure that the super macho Boston white guys who think the whole world is against their whiteness will just be totally cool with you coming and telling them they are evil for being white.
Easton Morales
What if the revolution never comes because the people pushing for it keep saying racist words like spook?
Grayson Fisher
post proof. + there are many, many antifa that don't think this. maybe you should be one of these antifa and educate the ones that don't understand this if you think its such a problem.
i dont understand this mentality of "one person in the group is an idiot therefore i should reject the entire group without any further arguments lel im so rational". this type of lazy thinking almost makes me think that people who follow this line of thinking online were never for said group in the first place.
Xavier Baker
When the revolution comes The Ego and Its Own will be mandatory reading just like the little Red Book was.
Brandon Rivera
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James Evans
Your gay
Elijah Powell
Anybody else hoping that the political violence, racism and White House drama don't die down anytime soon? It's entertaining as fuck (for bongs at least) and it's the kind of chaos that could prolly spark a communist renaissance or some shit. Swell the far-left numbers a bit even if the Trump years won't trigger a full-scale revolution.
Zachary Jones
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Wyatt Hall
Yeah that would be clever wouldnt it? Try to reason with them so I get sucker punched or hit on the head with a bike lock?
Ryan Foster
Lemme guess, you own a Guy Fawkes mask and a voice changer.
Ethan Flores
despite nominal progressivism Boston is low-key more racist than many places in the US. plenty of athletes will say that they never hear people calling them niggers except in Boston, kek.
Luke Evans
Its even featured prominently in some racist songs.
I could find them if you want?
Andrew Nelson
muh "antiracism and authoritarianism is actually just deeply triggering and problematic"
Jaxson Diaz
i hate filters
Landon Ramirez
You hate wordfilters but your posting on leftypol?
One of the fun things here is how the world filters completely derail conversations.
Logan Harris
How can a city with so many universities be so uneducated?
James Cruz
lel
Jonathan Phillips
A person was shot at a protest outside Milo event.
Ayden Evans
Universities spent so much money on safe spaces and gender neutral bathrooms that they couldnt afford to run any classes.
Samuel Ward
if you're not an obvious fascist this wont happen. stop making excuses. and i still want my proofs so i can address it.
Josiah Young
you're actually retarded if you believe this. i hope youre joking.
This girl isnt behaving badly. She obviously isnt a nazi and in fact reminds me of a girl I know who is very left wing.
Leo Nguyen
( ( ( Emily Goldstein ) ) )
Cooper Sanchez
Its one of those 'true words spoken in jest' type situations.
Christian Jones
Yawn.
Cameron Baker
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Charles Garcia
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David Rogers
What the fuck is wrong with you!?
Isaac Watson
Am I the only one who feels like punching liberals when they say "people of color"? It's cringe as fuck…
Alexander Ross
They are very condescending
Jacob Young
There's an element of historical animosity between the 🍀🍀🍀Irish🍀🍀🍀 and blacks in the US, that were exacerbated by things like the forced busing incident. Boston is the most 🍀🍀🍀Irish🍀🍀🍀 city in the US. Also, there are basically no black people in New England. Boston is maybe 7% black at best.
Levi Bell
For real. I dunno why so many politically active black people (especially women) rub shoulders with them.
Lincoln Fisher
It always makes me think that everyone is a 'person of color' unless they are completely transparent.
Austin Davis
I know. I've seem Gangs Of New York.
Xavier Powell
It must be quite annoying being Irish. Tthe Irish were the victims of three separate slave trades yet people only seem to really remember that black people were slaves.
Gabriel Cox
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Jackson Ortiz
the article was deleted and i cant find it
Wyatt Nelson
For real. Even so called white people turn pink, red, blue and green depending on whether they're sick, angry, embarrassed or choking to death.
Joshua Lopez
someone reported it and they deleted it because it violated the rules lol anuda shoah prevented goys :DD
Ryder Taylor
Ah damn I wish I could go to this but I have other arrangments, fuck.
Benjamin Scott
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Lincoln Myers
Meh, the 🍀🍀🍀micks🍀🍀🍀 are the #1 state according to US news so they turned out alright.
Juan Carter
They are rivals fighting over who suffered more from slavery.
This is why we need to push jews and make them angry. They will reveal their plans when they go full schizophrenic.
Julian Sanders
They were never "slaves". For fuck sake, when will them "Irish Slave Trade" Facebook memes die?
Hudson Adams
the purpose of the riot was to kick out milo for threatening to dox illegal immigrants. as a whole, this is why antifa was there. again, if you have a problem with a tactic someone is using, then tell them. there shouldn't be much friction considering that pepperspraying some chick isn't even the reason why everyone was there in the first place.
you're right, they were not treated like property but they were servants with little-to-no rights and were discriminated against
Zachary Watson
why do you feel the need to blame all jews on one idiot. and its a good idea to link me to the article where it isn't deleted so im not relying on some retard with a pic of a headline to be outraged.
Adam Richardson
That proves my point,. Someone could just make up some spurious allegation against me just like they did against Milo and they are all so convinced that everyone who isnt them is a nazi they will not only believe it they will go straight to thug tactics and violence.
Owen Evans
They are white when they want to hurt white people. They are jewish when white people call on their bullshit.
Adam Morgan
I think you should both read up on the barbary slave trade before you start denying Irish people their history.
Look in to what happened in Baltimore Ireland for example.
Alexander Mitchell
And the Irish are just blacks with red hair. *sarcasm*
Jacob Stewart
Yeah, we're talking bout slavery in The Americas though which the Irish never went through.
Samuel Morales
the allegations against milo were justified. the ones against the women weren't.
pepperspraying the women, again, wasn't a goal like shutting down milo, it was a tactic. if you have the same goal then you'll be fine disagreeing with tactics.
Noah Russell
you didn't address a word i typed.
Bentley Jenkins
>archive.fo/WsGQh I thought you already read the article. A link was posted above your reply.
Jeremiah Roberts
Again I feel like you are proving my point because you think allegations which had no evidence are justified based on your preconceived opinion that milo is a nazi. No lack of facts is enough to stop your crusade. No matter how many times he denied it you would not believe him.
My worry is that if I tried to debate Antifa the same thing would happen to me. This means that they will never convince me (or any other normies) to their point of view.
Ayden Rodriguez
No I wasnt what made you think that?
Austin Hughes
intersectionality.
David Ross
yea somebody made a thread recently about showing up to the berkley shit as a traditional pro-worker/marxist and got punched by antifa.
Antifa isn't really leftist, it isn't really anything. It defines its existence based opposition to something else.
Aiden Diaz
No they didn't, post proof or fuck off >>>Holla Forums
Carson Anderson
That makes sense.
They are basically against anyone who doesnt perfectly resemble them visually and ideologically.
Which makes me wonder why they get any support on here.
Leo Allen
because you made that post.
Tyler Hill
No they didn't, here should I become a flag fag so as to not confuse you, tankie
Implying I am from pol. top wew. You don't have to be from pol to hate on antifa
Alexander Ortiz
Doesnt that break the space time continuum?
Kevin Jenkins
Please user, the world is changing
Mason Harris
indeed
Nathaniel Cox
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Logan Peterson
Im banned from pol at the moment.
Easton Jones
please user this rethoric is used by actual fascist as a huge "NO U!" to make them look better. Don't fall for that trap.
Josiah Johnson
there's >>>/polk/, they need more IPs.
Daniel Kelly
Its also used by normies to point out that fascists and antifa are very similar.
But ironically at the moment antifa uses more thuggery than fa.
Jeremiah Gonzalez
Im just not going to be able to trigger people on there to make it entertaining.
Nolan Myers
Reminder that we are and will ever be against fascism. Everyone who says otherwise is just a Holla Forums useful idiot.
Lucas Butler
oh good, more communists fetishising anti-free speech, my favorite. Go fuck yourself, you killed Trotsky.
Benjamin Brown
I have seen that quote so many times by so many people it is ironic people don't know the original one. 1) Huey Long died before the Nazis took power, and was decently pro-Italy. 2) the original quote is: "When fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross" ~Upton Sinclair
I mean I have seen Churchill attributed to that quote and a whole lot of different people. Stop spreading misinformation.
Asher Williams
a bunch of neo-nazis dressing up like Ceasars legion so they can screech at minorities and shake hands with cops has nothing to do with free speech.
Gabriel Miller
this.
Michael Hill
I hope they learn from that Minnesota rally and pursue similar tactics to there rather then just attacking anyone who shows up.
Hand out booklets explaining who the fascists are that use their own words against them. Explain to the normies whats going on and only smash if you are able to isolate the fash and larpers.
Josiah James
Huey long did say regarding fascism: Of course we’ll have it. We’ll have it under the guise of anti-fascism.”
The quote I prefer to use to describe how Antifa uses Nazi behavior is from Nietzsche. "if you stare into the abyss, the abyss stares back at you"? Antifa have been so obsessed with fascists that they have given themselves permission to become them in order to destroy them.
Nicholas Allen
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Levi Johnson
i don't want to say a "not all" vulgarity.
But those who have a smashie mentality are just kiddies at the same level of the alt-right faggots. The vast majority of Antifas are not violent people. The hate against antifas are just propaganda.
Jonathan Bennett
She's appropriating Native American culture. She should die along with the fascists.
Aiden Flores
a bunch of neo-communists dressing up like the Red Army so they can screech at the police and shake hands with professors has nothing to do with free speech. your argument is shit, just like you
Nolan Harris
What I think Antifa really needs to be taken seriously by the public is some proper leadership. Even the senior guys in their group are putting on masks and assaulting people with bike locks.
When normies read the posters about antifa being fascists, and then they see antifa attacking people they will draw conclusions.
By acting like dicks to everyone they put their ideology above their own success.
Liam Walker
This. As long as they make it seems like it's about free speech and nobody interrupts them, they either have quit or show their real colors.
And we all know that these "free speech activists", aren't doing all of this for the sake of FS.
Noah Long
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Anthony Adams
Im British and you are kinda appropriating my culture by using the English language, an electronic computer and the internet.
Christian Thomas
yeah as soon as American Antifa is more about stopping fascism than it is about beating up random people, the football hooligans who make up 90% if the movement will abandon ship. They're edgelord teenagers who want to assault people, these kids don't give a fuck about politics.
Landon Carter
Predition: aut right looks stupid as always and we win
free speech lets any retard talk and i dont want to hear it
we should all just shut up
Jack Gonzalez
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Jonathan Gonzalez
And if someone did become a proper leader of Antifa to give them some direction they wouldnt like that because 'fuck you mom for making me do my chorewhen I want to be a cool revolutionary'.
Liam Rodriguez
I mean you killed a fuckton of other people too but Trotsky is really the only one who has the notoriety to fill in for the "you killed Rosa" meme. You killed Kronstadt too I suppose.
Easton White
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Austin Rogers
Praise kek. The Left will fall!
Asher Morgan
Excellent get.
Hudson Reyes
you do realize WE'RE the ones against liberal democracy, right?
Parker Myers
Let's assume for the moment that I'm a Holla Forumsfag browsing a thread that appeared in the Recent tab. Cliff Notes the various groups on the left for me and general opinions towards them from within the broad umbrella that I normally categorize as "the Left"
Parker Jones
why you criticize something that you don't know? It's the prime example of ignorance.
Isaiah Roberts
I am literally asking you to rationally discuss this so I can learn something, if anything, I don't already know. Ignorance is coming here and posting swastikas and saying that all commies will be thrown out of helicopters for the crime of breathing. To deal with your enemy, you must first know your enemy, and I'm deciding to do so at a primary source level versus diluted in images of kek and God-Emperor Trump memery.
Evan Howard
Free speech fights are an old IWW tactic. I say we join the rally and drown out the fash presence by spreading communist advocacy instead.
Isaac Phillips
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Lincoln Fisher
While for starters the anti-capitalist left is against liberal democracy, which we often refer to as bourgeois democracy. We define liberal democracy as a parliamentary governing system along with a a capitalist economy.
Under liberal democracy the ruling class dominates the political process. Parliamentary "democracy" is a spectacle meant to prevent people from realizing who truly runs our society (industrialists, bankers, media magnates, owners of natural resources etc.) We are trying to build real democracy by increasing ordinary peoples participation in the process, making representatives open to recall and discipline from their constituents, and most importantly bringing the economy under democratic control through the expropriation of the ruling class' property.
Nicholas Brown
I'm ok with learning from each other and the dialog. Less ok to help you to understand the "enemy" considering that we are your enemies.
Lots of cringe in this Twitter thread. Videos included,
Leo Hernandez
This tbh
Asher Ramirez
Idk I feel like if all right-wingers had the attitude of truly trying to know your enemy. Half of them would come over to our side when they discovered what we actually believe.
Oliver Ross
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Caleb Watson
Interesting.
Nathaniel Reyes
I was just thinking about that. Libertarians keep smartin up. They are the militia wing, too.
Oliver Perez
that "beat-in" video is one of the most pathetic, cringe worthy things i've ever seen
Leo Ramirez
It's funny that they see themselves as the saviors of the white race while poorly and autistically imitating gang 'beat-ins' that are a staple of the gangs they accuse of ruining American 'Culture'
Evan Anderson
I am in awe at the stupidity and cringe of the aut-right
Xavier Jenkins
I remember hearing there was a split withing one of those militias because certain member felt they should be supporting BLM against police brutality.
Honestly I don't think their will be revolution in the US without some kind of understanding with those type of militias and the demographic they represent.
Xavier Garcia
Did you see those punches? These people accuse us of being beta, bunch of fat pussies.
Chase Brooks
I've seen stronger punches from fat fucks on my 600 pound life doing punch training.
Aiden Parker
The guy leading the beat in got arrested apparently, lel.
Dominic Moore
Ohhhh, look at those scary NATSEES. Oy vey!
Ayden James
Boomer conservatives ("cuckservatives") are just as bad as liberals and deserve to get beaten alongside nazis.
Jordan Harris
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Bentley Evans
If you let people beat on you to join their stupid club, you're a huge fucking cuck.
Justin Russell
They deserve it, but targeting them on the same level is bad praxis.
Leo Parker
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Nicholas Hall
Yea, and beat up homeless, jobless White men too. They are muh privileged Natsees and shit.
Henry Martinez
If you stand with reactionaries you deserve to get beaten.
Brayden Thompson
What "reactionaries" They just normal people who want fucking jobs.
Fuck off already.
Tyler Morales
Why did these people have to shit up my city on a nice Saturday afternoon
Aaron Scott
jej
Ethan Price
The group is filled with minority and mixed raced teens who haven't faced law enforcement yet.
What a sight it will be when the cops first target them only because of their darker skin 3-4 years from now and they'll be muttering "b-but I'm on y-your side, mr. policeman!"
Luis Davis
Nice capitalization of "white"
Get back to your cuckshed, Holla Forumsyp.
Sebastian Morgan
Has LARPing gone too far?
Landon Carter
How many people has Antifa killed? White supemacist and right wing terrorists have killed plenty of people in the past few years.
Chase Murphy
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Daniel Stewart
By the way does anybody have a link to that video of a Trump rally with an aut-right LARP wearing a helmet sperging out?
Owen Sanchez
Does anyone else kind of feel a little bad for these kids or am I just being a bleeding heart liberal?
I used to go to high school with kids like this and they were teased relentlessly.
Bentley Martin
One step below literal cuckoldry.
Jacob Edwards
Not at all. Bullying builds character. It separates the aspies from the men.
Chase Adams
Didn't think of it like that. You're right, Nazbol. Dammit.
Luke Reed
No I dont feel sorry for them. They are out having fun which is more than can be said for us. Plus they got to decide who was president this time around.
Juan Ross
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Easton Myers
Good sassenach
Eli Ward
If Umbongo can sink 10 pints of Guinness Ill believe you.
Jonathan Perry
Reactionaries, without fail, always become (or attempt to become) that which they claim to hate.
Carson Flores
So by that logic Holla Forums will become porkys and Holla Forums will become black or maybe jewish?
Noah Harris
I was speaking in terms of ideology. For example, there are some pretty stark comparisons between Holla Forums+the alt right and Islamic fundamentalism.
Luis Stewart
And also in gamergate the ones claiming to be victims of harassment turned out to be the people dishing it out the most.
Bentley Collins
pix or you're a dubs-wasting faggot
James Taylor
go back to Holla Forums, stay there
Jayden Turner
fuck off with this gamergate shit faggot, we already told you we don't give two halves of a dead moose's last shit thrown across the Potomac
Ian Wilson
Holla Forumslacks are bourg college students and Holla Forumslacks are shitskins, checks out.
Brandon Brooks
Wait.. American citizens infiltrated police departments all across America!?
Jace Flores
We(normal people) know that Antifa is funded by Jewish Racists to attack White people.
Jack Sanchez
Not gonna read the whole thread, but how did the rally go?
I assume nothing of any significance or entertainment happened.
Jeremiah White
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William Perry
This.
Kayden Nguyen
The rally ended with the guy talking about how they are inclusive of all races and genders.
Weird times.
Wyatt Mitchell
Oh boy one of these assclown again
Leo Parker
What these posters don't quite understand is that reds want to solve their problems that are not their fault.
No revolution, or reactionary authority, can help the fact that they simply aren't sympathetic people.
Isaac King
I fucking hate robots but I don't trust this sort of analysis because the idea of self responsibility can very easily be turned around as a very strong supporting point for capitalism.
Instead, I think they should just stop giving a fuck about sex.
Isaiah Smith
Just adding to the cringe, don't mind me
Jaxson Fisher
not him but what? "neo-communists" probably aren't organizing for the sake of free speech, that's the whole point here
Logan Brown
I was there today. Antifa/Black Bloc were seriously LARPing pieces of shit and made the opposition look ridiculous.
Their original disagreement with the socialists (ISO, DSA, and SAlt) was that they wouldn't agree to direct action and violence. Because they wouldn't agree to this, antifa didn't agree to organize with them or act in unison with them.
So the chants were disjointed and antifa stood in front of the socialist banners blocking them out. They generally divided the group and made us all look like anarkiddies that satisfy every alt-right stereotype. They also made it so no one just walking through the common would join onto our side.
Anarchists can't build mass movements at all. If the socialists were leading in front and there weren't a ton of masked people with poles and wooden boards I am sure dozens more would have joined the opposition side. Everyone I heard walking by said how fucking stupid they thought the Trump rally was, but that the other side looked equally ridiculous and violent so they wouldn't even think of walking over there.
Eventually, DSA and SAlt left, leaving just antifa and some others. They looked like a mess just standing about, and worse of all they wouldn't cross the police line at all or try to attack the idiots on the other side. Even when the Trump train started marching down the streets, antifa put no opposition up. They just trailed by them with their flags.
I was formerly apathetic to anarchists and antifa but they really are LARPing idiots unless they seriously commit to direct action and genuinely disrupting fascist rallies/events. The Left came out of that looking like silly liberals. But the Right looked equally autistic for all of the effort they put into this.
Aiden Foster
they'll front them as hard as they can pragmatically allow irl before going back to crying about d.egeneracy on Holla Forums
Nicholas Phillips
What a fucking embarassing flag, gotta throw right on there some shit about everyone that isn't white eh?
All working people is all working people, but whatever, let's advertise to the "Trans & Queer" crowd especially because it means something.
Brody Butler
jej
David Wilson
Yet more evidence that anarchists are children.
Even if they did want to hold their own opposition that used direct action, they could have done it without being dicks to other socialists and also, you know, USING direct action.
Robert Hill
Fun things to come out of it:
An autistic looking man child was for a while just standing around with a pepe sign talking to people about Not Socialism.
The opposition yelling "go back to 4chan anime nazis" quite a lot.
Anarchists having the better megaphones and somehow always being significantly louder than the Trump people with chants etc.
A guy in a white suit and MAGA fedora-esque hat holding up 8 fingers whenever the anarchists chanted go back to 4chan. Also the fact random people were asking to take photos with him to make fun of him when he thought they were being serious/supportive.
Trump people being very divided between oath keepers, ancaps, MAGA trump families, rednecks, and autistic LARPers.
Best chants to come out of trump side were "USA" and "Fucking Faggots"
Aaron Anderson
>here's evidence overly-wordy bullshit that reads like mainstream news go away
Jackson Cruz
plenty of euros die because of this retardation, what with the fash's habit of attacking in group and outside protests. they're literally thugs. a while ago someone posted a webm of antifa thrashing some fascist's house, and while that's retarded (even moreso than filming yourself while you're doing it) the fash will wait until you're alone and thrash on you.
and that is why people always say murrikan antifa is a joke.
Liam Taylor
It sounds like he really was there so I have no reason to doubt his relatively mundane sequence of events.
Also, antifa as a whole aren't terrible. They tend to be pretty cool in European countries. In America they are literally just children.
James Stewart
Or maybe they are just children everywhere.
Grayson Garcia
>>guy who looks like a Botero painting of Chris-Chan
Jeremiah Foster
In Europe they tend to pick rational targets (banks, government buildings, etc.) and effectively engage with riot police (rather than throw some garbage at them and run away as soon as they make any kind of advance).
Noah Miller
Oh, and they actually do what they're supposed to do, which is beat up Nazi skinheads.
Caleb Russell
I was there for 5 hours and when I arrived I already missed the first 3 hours. It's hard to summarize that much stuff without sounding general as fuck. My bad
Evan Gonzalez
antifa is retarded because being anti-x is hardly an ideology and their silly violence only gives more visibility to the other side, who can cry about "muh tolerant left". their method isn't effective, nobody's scared and is basically football hooligans minus the football.
that said, the americans somehow manage to be even dumber.
Jacob Williams
kys, xexizy
Isaac Miller
but right wingers are the majority of people with guns and make up most of the military.
Evan Garcia
I have literally never seen someone on this board use the sage feature who wasn't a massive shitposter.
Dominic Martin
antifa wouldn't join in on "What beats Trumps ass? A unified working class!" when SAlt kept starting it
That's not true, the people most popular with the military were Sanders and Johnson, followed by Trump.
Jeremiah Ross
If it means anything to you, I absolutely despise antifa and I'd join you guys if I were a burger.
Parker Parker
Americans are brainwashed to hate all forms of non-liberal totalitarianism. The military is filled "centrist" right wingers who love their precious imperialist state and that's about it. They wouldn't help fascists but they might help combat communism (unless of course the communists were nazbol.)
Logan Sanchez
I at least though you, as the Opposition, would listen to our podcasts for intel.
If you want a good primer, listen to Rebel Yell from the first episode to the latest. I know you don't have anything better to do.
Noah Martin
This is what annoys me most about the anti-fa stuff. It seem like recently they've started just showing up with masks/clubs but then not even doing anything. This is what happened at auburn as well.
Wearing all black and covering your face just makes you seem intimidating to normies and maintains anti-fascism as a secret club rather then a mass movement. The only reason to cover your face is to look intimidating and avoid doxing.
If you aren't going to actually take any action just show up with normal clothes and agitate among normies. It seems like anti-fa is actually getting worse if that's even possible, now they're showing up in their costumes and not actually taking any action.
Carson Thompson
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Nolan Hughes
maybe in non-combat position. (aka the fags that work in logistics)
everyone i know thats was in combat arms, were strongly republican.
Nathan Anderson
Don't worry. Austerity will eventually hit the military as well. The babykillers who haven't committed suicide by then will find themselves without a job, healthcare, or any sort of support and will end up on our side.
Luke Martinez
bwahahaha.
Caleb Bell
I hate linking autistic twitter shit but this is good.
Literally kill yourself (and statically speaking you probably will.)
Grayson White
Turks are brown and were killed by an Imperialistic (Soviet) power user.
Brown people die for Empire all the time.
Jayden Stewart
i wouldnt count on it
Juan Cruz
so you can kill for what you believe in, but we cant?
see: turkey, afghanistan, revolutions in south america, etc
this. there will always be someone to fight. Asia looks pretty cool.
Isaac Ramirez
well its not only that. i mean, to think the military will suffer from any kind of austerity in america is just delusional, like one third of the economy in america depends on the war machine. but even in otherwise peaceful countries it's not like you don't need the military. not to mention that the military is literally the most likely group to make a coup.
Connor Young
There are two things that always increase: the entropy of the universe, and America's military budget.
Joshua Ramirez
I don't get it.
Gabriel Hernandez
no blacks there, just hispanics, whites, and asians. hatred of black people is pretty common across ethnic groups.
Gabriel Moore
its a joke. very few people are actually nazis. Holla Forums will become anything if it helps them troll people.
you just took the joke too seriously m8.
Kayden Sullivan
what a fucking retard, holy hell.
Caleb Hall
A lot of the reactionary boards are really self hating. Ever been on /r9k/? They really do despise themselves, especially short people for some sort of reason.
Robert Richardson
Yeah right. Glad to see no one is taking this disingenuous bulllshit seriously anymore.
Levi Jones
Still makes no sense, most of the people on pol actually seem nazi.
I want to assume this is just from 4pol and the aut right but I doubt life more and more everyday.
I still don't get it. It's beyond me as to why you'd wake up one day and go "haha wow I AM A SHIT LOL" and then not perhaps, I dunno like try to maybe change your people for the better. if it's possible
Owen Bell
in the Holla Forums mindset asians are honorary aryans or east aryans. hispanics just want to believe they are white and differentiate themselves from the blacks.
David Thomas
leafbro is black
im sorry a bunch of autists on the internet made you think they were the third reich
you fell for the meme
Nathaniel Reyes
From what I've seen the view on Asians is varied, most people who say anything relating to irrelevant shiting areinstantly shunned. Not even honorary aryans are liked. Pol makes it really difficult to actually stay there, at least here you lot actually know what you all fucking want. Pol is just like internal screaming and stabbing at the air.
Michael Rivera
I never quite understood this thing about a counter-protest. There's no audience to be swayed. At best it's a show of force but only if you got overwhelming numbers, which we never do. More often than not, an infiltrated cop will kick off a mess and the media will uniformly blame the infiltrated side, which no doubt will be the leftist one.
Have you seen these aut-right protestors? They're pitiful. They look more like a high school Halloween party than a political event. Tea Party rallies commanded more respect than those. They shouldn't be counter-protested, you know what they say about arguing with ifiots: they drag you down to their level then beat you with experience. Instead they should be mocked and disrupted, to make them truly descend into laughing matter for the media.
But this requires some measure of leadership and coordination, so so much for that.
I'm gonna need sources for that.
Wyatt Walker
neither do i but they're like this
Austin Gomez
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Daniel Clark
I thought vets had healthcare?
Jackson Williams
Your frogpost does not constitute a source on your assertation
Nor does your Rare Gadsden
I think it means he's one of the Van Buren Boys :^)
2 rubles has of being deposit into account of your bank. Thanks you for making of correct records.
wow you fooled us all for years amazing work
Ethan Long
that text looks interesting. source?
Adrian Hernandez
The snowflakes are losing so bad and instead of seeing how their deliusional warped views has handicapped the left for years to come, they do a typical libtard move and just double down on the rhetoric. I say good job chaps. Keep up the good work.
Caleb Robinson
You are the snowflakes Holla Forums.
Jonathan Thomas
Typical lefty comeback. U-u-are
Andrew Ross
"Free speech activist" and "fascist" are mutually exclusive, and based on that lovely Pinochet avatar, I can safely guess which one he is.
Jackson Carter
my assertion that most combat mos military personnel are right wing?
are you american?
Hudson Martinez
In America they really aren't.
Caleb Torres
Fascists have the tendency to be ardent defenders of civil rights in as much as they can use them to destroy them.
Adrian Wright
No. I was autistic as fuck and ostracized but I never became a fat racist LARPer.
Luis Ortiz
"Free speech activist" is just a euphemism for fascist.
This is an attempt to appeal to liberals and liberal ideology. Of course, they only really believe in free speech for themselves.
Connor Lewis
That hasn't been my experience, though being infantry in the modern Burgerland military is little more than glorified guard duty.
Leo Diaz
I'm gonna archive these recurring digits.
Jacob Hall
Every good socialist, anarchist and communist is opposed to liberal democracy. We are for proletarian democracy.
The phrase ALL POWER TO THE SOVIETS Was not a call to defend Stalin, but the worker councils he forcibly took control of and destroyed.
Alexander Anderson
we could not give a fuck, learn what priorities are
t. From Dublin, not a yank LARPfag
Blake Ward
my ma lives in the village beside Baltimore, it's not considered a big deal. Just a historical curiosity.
They're all right wing as fuck. This goes for most combat arms veterans.
Jace Perez
American soldiers don't actually fight anymore so I wouldn't worry about them. They can't handle actual soldiers, just unarmed women, children and armed but poorly trained 16 year old partisans.
Mason Thompson
not when you spread this language through imperialism and genocide, it isn't
Luis Gutierrez
Who's soldiers fight anymore anyway? 🤔
Carter Sanchez
Is that a real girl, or a trap cos-playing as Lain? and then there's that white guy with the sunglasses and the cap, hiding in the far left corner. I wonder if he could be a real skinhead-nazi, and if so, how does he feel about being the odd man out at the support group for mildly obese hispanic teenagers?
Blake Parker
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Kayden Flores
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Jordan Jenkins
Well Trump's government is militarized af.
Thomas Miller
That's because we're invading Iran by 2020, and Holla Forums's gonna cheer it.
Anthony Allen
looks correct to me.
the few liberals that would vote for hillary are Not combat arms.
Parker Hill
Holy shit America is never going to see a revolution.
Alexander Jones
definitely not. the culture just isn't compatible
Elijah Robinson
Sanders had a lot of support, the graph is after the primaries.
Cameron Ortiz
1.2% for Stein is more than the general population, and she's an anti-vaxxer wack.
Daniel Young
America will fall to fascism in our lifetimes. The left will never win a revolution.
Carter Richardson
American fascism is a meme that people grow out of. American capitalism is far worse than fascism as American capitalism has no artistic aesthetic while enforcing the same order and authority that fascism had.
We can't keep expecting fascism, it's a dead, third way ideology from an era where the third way was between Liberalism and Communism.
Today the third way is between Neoliberalism and Neoliberalism with a fake social conscience, that's not fascism, that's just Neoliberalism with a new mask
the living standards if Americans is going to drop and drop. People are not going to sit their and take it forever.They will look for alternatives and fascism will give it t them
Caleb Lee
there's been like 7 recessions m8. its not happening
Josiah Anderson
The American military (excluding the airforce) has basically no combat potential anyways. Most vets spent more time in the gym than in combat and when they were in combat they were hugging the ground waiting for air support (In before fake war story, save your breathe vet(s) I'm not a slutty whore at the local dive bar.)
Wyatt Perez
Found another one. (It lacks Johnson and the previous pic shows that's pretty relevant)
There is literally not a single group of young men in America that is cucked more often than enlisted men.
Josiah Peterson
Fascism would be an improvement you dumbfuck
Capitalism is bad enough
Easton Bell
John Howard fuck you
Military Times, the same people who did the previous one.
Levi Wright
The Proud Boys are the most cringy alt-right group. I'm surprised they aren't talked about here more.
Luke Martin
this every military wife cheats on her husband while he's deployed, it's widely known.
Sebastian Morgan
This has to be ironic. Everyone knows army wives/gfs are the loosest women in the US.
Austin Reyes
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Adrian Peterson
nope think again. You are so deep in memes its hilarious. Must people watch X Factor and really like Beyonce
Hudson Ross
"its just a joke guys!"
Everyone knows thats a stupid fucking idea, most of the time, its other service members that fuck them too. i literally fought my buddy because he was marrying a stripper. next thing you know, shes fucking some navy lieutenant who was there to attend jump school. it happens, lmao.
that's not to say that service members cant get pussy. put a fucking monkey in a uniform and it can get pussy. it doesn't even matter if they've seen combat. natural selection just makes them suck ur dick.
Dylan Anderson
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Jackson Miller
Nope In the video he says "In 1988 I did not think it appropriate that we should be selling assault weapons in this country", (something there's no proof of) (Hell, back then the 2nd amendment didn't even mean what it currently means) and then he proceeded to advocate background checks on lunatics and thugs. I wouldn't doubt it if he just made it up on the spot, he has no legislative history of fighting for gun control, they even say it in the video.
a'right I surrender. Still don't think he gives a shit and is just pandering for the dems though.
Camden Ross
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Elijah Morris
Are you stupid or just clinically naive?
Daniel Martinez
I fail to see anyone fitting the description. Which one do you mean?
Gabriel Brooks
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Cooper Green
How about reading a fucking book? One, soldiers are the very last to change their minds about the regime before a revolution happens; two, who the fuck do you think fights in revolutions on the side of the old powers? Nazi ghosts?
Andrew Garcia
I'm not far enough in my reading list to know for sure, but I thought Lenin himself had begun sidelining the soviets?
Well it's not like Johnson/Trump?Hillary was much of a choice anyway. What I really want to see is how they would go with Bernie.
Now this is interesting. All of them preferred Trump over Hillary, not bad. Also holy shit, dat Air Force.
Also interesting, thanks.
There are only so many aut-rightists we can mock at a time, comr8. This process is yet to reach full automatization.
Connor Baker
Nah, you didn't create anything, m8.
Carter Morris
You do understand that the reason rightists are in favour of having shooters is drastically different from the reason lefties want to have shooters, right?
Parker Rogers
Gun ownership is more of an individualist thing to them.
Aka, GET OFF MA PROPURTEE.
Good luck convincing that guy to collectivize his farm lol.
David Adams
He did, and it's debatable whether he needed to in order to organize the war effort, but doing so eventually led to the death of the revolution.
Robert Thomas
Yeah, it's something I've been gleaming from the sidelines of reading books indirectly related to the Revolution's history, that Lenin really did act against most of his promises. It probably was out of sheer desperation, I guess – things were so chaotic that one misstep might mean there wouldn't even be a Russia left at all. But in the end it seems to boil down to two possibilities: he just was a power-mad dictator, or he became a monster to fight monsters. Given what I know of his life history, I believe the latter.
Chase Gutierrez
Sure I do, they're another victim of the circle of violence. Even though they're no where close to being violent fascists, they share a similar mindset of being victims who turn to victimization. That sad thing about being a Leftist is the people fighting you are precisely the people you're trying to save and whose suffering you're trying to prevent.
A lot of people like to think "Well, I was treated similarly, and I'm not doing what they're doing", which is nice, but basically falling for the free will meme, where people aren't products of their environment.
Alexander Evans
This is all madeup bullshit unless you have proof. I doubt that even DSA showed up. They're a bunch of socDems that oppose direct action.
Dominic Wilson
that is objectively untrue
James Perry
hard to see but far left is dsa banner. they are for direct action but the dsa ppl were ineffectual as fuck
Jason Hernandez
Collaborating with larpers seem difficult. In an ideal world, anti-capitalist forces could coordinate more effectively.
Andrew Smith
I guess Co-ops are the only option.
Justin Perry
people with shitty options make shitty choices, who wouldaknown
1/5 of the military supported Sanders though, and that's nothing to shake a stick at