After the passage of Trumpcare, it seems like the pendulum is swinging even faster to the left. HOWEVER, fucking SOCDEMS like Sanders, Melenchon, and Corbyn, are sucking up all chances for revolutionary change.
At a time where climate change is a life or death scenario, where the economic system is on the verge of collapse, fucking SOCDEMS are soaking up all of the revolutionary anger into their shitty band-aid policies.
What can be done about them? They are about to screw us all big time.
Sanders is like 80 so he won't be a long-term problem.
His replacement would still be a progressive.
Nice LARP
Reminder that folks like Trump and Le Pen are infinitely more revolutionary and class conscious than Sanders and Melenchon.
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You are absolutely right, they are definately class conscious. They are completely conscious of the fact that they must do everything in their power to preserve the rights and muh privileges of the ultra wealthy.
There is no replacement sanders, the minute he keels over the Dems will rush to claim and morph his legacy.
He'll be the "silly old man" that "really rocked the boat"
Yep and that's just the way he wants it. Careerist socdems like him love that cult of personality shit. Helps them hold on to their cushy government positions in capitalist societies while also allowing them to basically LARP as revolutionaries/reformists without fear of starving to death.
The only ones LARPing are the idiots who think Sanders, Melenchon, and Corbyn are holding back nonexistent revolutionary efforts in the US, France, and UK.
I want the drugs he's taking.
The spectacle is everywhere, there is nothing but spectacle. The anger is not revolutionary potential, it is spectacle. That's all we have left. A Sanders win would be the equal and opposite alternative. A few token good measures, the house fucking everything up angry Republicans on television.
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Why do you proudly wear the symbol of choking Rosa?
Does anybody actually believe this?
Trump has moderated most of his positions. He is ruling by executive order now which means basically nothing.
It's not the symbol of choking Rosa, it's the symbol of Social Democracy. Rosa was real Social Democrat herself and got murdered by liberals and reactionaries and Ebert was a liberal mole within German Social Democracy. Learn the difference between Social Democrats and Liberals already. Protipp: today's SPD is *not* Social Democrat, neither are parties such as the french PS and S&P in the EU parliament. They are all liberals or Clinton style "progessives", that is neoliberals.
this, a hundred times. if there was even a 1/100 chance of the revolution happening in the next twenty years I'd decry Sanders but there isn't. entryism is how shit gets done for now
We'll need another world war before we'll have enough disaffected, brutalized young men necessary to violently overthrow the system. This generation does have the class consciousness, the will, or the militaristic skillset necessary to forcibly overturn the current neoliberal order. Crisis alone won't bring the change needed. Sucdems right now are useful for planting the seeds of class consciousness. The worst they can do is make sure less of us die on the streets.
Leftists are fucking weak ass bitches unless they are handled by strong men like Stalin.
Even fat ass rednecks are going to rekt leftists all day long.
We need to meme "progressive" into being a secret wink that means "progressing towards communism" like how Holla Forums turned the ok hand gesture into a white supremacist gesture. They've been doing a strategy which has been transforming the mundane into the profane and then using the ubiquity of such symbols to retroactively represent moderates on the right as being in on it in a way that has given them the appearance of being a legitimate political bloc not by the right, but by those on the left using their bandwagoning to smear the right. But for this to work we need the right balance between malignancy (Holla Forums) but with a presentable, articulate face that can be put to the movement while still evoking outage (Richard Spencer). The key to winning would be for our Spencer to actually win hearts, minds, and arguments, none of which Spencer does.
So who's the left's Richard Spencer?
*White leftists
I'm sorry but blacks and Hispanics combined are a more numerous, more volatile group than the country club Republicans and the white trash that make up the alt-right. If we could get even a 10th of black people to show up like they do over an unjust police killing the right has no chance. Trump got shut the fuck down in Chicago. The corporate left can mobilize when their interests are in the line. That's why we need to infect them.
We need a younger radicalized Jimmy Dore, with the economic knowledge of Richard Wolf, and the sex appeal, anger and militancy of Che Guvarra.
Social democracy cannot be implemented unless there is a large revolutionary workers movement behind it. If you just vote for socdem parties without a revolution threatening capital, and if the politicians lack the tremendous diplomatic skill that early socdems had, you'll just get Syriza 2.0
Trump got the shut the fuck down in China because of an ineffective police force though.
In fact, the black riots are only successful because the police and le white trash refuse to crack skull.
Even nerdy /k/lansman put the fear into the riot crowd with handguns.
Accelerationists need fucking shot
yeah no
stop larping idiot. revolutionary change isn't gonna happen.
Maybe your shitty theory for communism is sucking up all revolutionary change? Have you forgot about the 100 gorillion dead kulaks? And the fall of the Soviet Union? China turning into a capitalist state? Socdem is the best left can offer at this moment and this is where we should aim.
How? By shifting the Overton window further to the Left than anyone else did in generations?
And do you really have such a bad grasp not only on Socialist theory but just plain observable reality that you think people are only keeping hope in Capitalism because of people like Sanders, and that without him the end of fucking Obamacare would signal the revolution? My man your observational and prognosis skills are terrible.
t. totally not a right-wing person
i dont get the sanders hate on this board
sure he's a succdem but in America that's like being a supercommunist from the Leftist dimension
Why can't you have both progress and revolutionary movement?
Is it because it's too hard to conceive? Is it really too hard to keep in mind a true change of society for the future when you're having a decent life? What kind of argument is that?
he's just another shitty politician compromised by the deliberate confines of a purposefully stagnant, reactionary institution
kill all politicians
SHOTS FIRED
Why do we need a liberal economist with a coop fetish?
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kill yourself americuck
Nonsense, I'll just wait for the climate to get me. Supposedly that shit is right around the corner, correct?
Because there's an unreasonably high chance anyone who takes my unrestricted pessimism on-board will kill themselves. Social-Democracy for the 21st century!
more seriously because it's the last ideology i actually held. the rot set in when i was a socdem.
I fucking hope so.
That's the leftcoms' game. Don't try to steal our memes from us you filthy killer of Luxemburgists.
if it's any consolation i'm willing to get out of my skeleton chair to tie a noose.
Classic.
in the trump case the real people to blame are liberal clintonites who fucked the socdems. once sanders was out, trump was the only choice.
I think pollution affecting global climate is serious and needs to be slowed as much as slowed as possible but I also think natural climate change has/is/will be occurring constantly throughout human history until it inevitably makes us unable to breath the atmosphere, just like the species of previous Ages.
I don't think it's something to be so stressed about compared to other issues, much like IdPol stuff actually, in fact I put CC scaremongers in the same tier of "fuck off dont talk to me" as veganism.
Because that's exactly what it is, "Green" products are good advertising so climate change scare is convienent for porky, and as a bonus "green" pandering is a nice way for companies to side step other pollution issues they cause
TL;Dr, OP & this faggot are playing directly into capitalist hands just like fatass white bitches on tumblr
That's why you need a strong green left to push the point that reducing consumption is the only route to sustainability. There's a reason recycle is at the end of reduce, reuse, recycle, it's a *hierarchy*.
(We'll never reduce and reusing means less conspicuous consumption, so we're all dead.)
All five of them?
Socdem policies are currently the most popular with americans
Sounds like me, I'm even Caribbean. I just wish I was older.
Also gay thread
Without a socdem influence like Sanders sucking up all revolutionary anger, rage would bubble up among the populace and would lead them to demand greater concessions from the bourgeois class than would be under a SocDem influence. There would be riots.
Lol there ARE riots where the fuck are you nigga
Socialists are progressive. The word progressive is mentioned by Marx three or four times in the Communist Manifesto.
That's two.
The gist of it appears many more times than that. Progressives and socialists both believe in action, some form of historical materialism and ASAP change and oppose gradualism.
I hate him for being a chickenshit and not fighting the targeted voter suppression and election fraud that happened in the Democratic Primary. Also his Middle-East policy is pretty crap.
Lol he doesn't have a fucking Middle East policy he signed a meaningless letter all 100 senators signed. If you mean keeping the drone program he wanted to scale it back drastically. Yes he was "chickenshit" but it's not because he was a "cuck" or something it was a deliberate strategy to maintain his influence.