Zero books: Kill all normies

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Watcha think /leftypol?

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Fuck yeah, Based Doug at it again!

hmm?

It's a perfectly acceptable pronunciation. I had a professor who said it like that, I say it like that on occasion too.

Doug is 100% /ourguy/

It's the wrong pronunciation.

t. italian

the video's alright btw

Zero Books is the best.

Why isn't this channel as popular among the left as Chapo, etc.? It's great. Sad to see only 1600 subscribers.

Chapo is for fucking alt-Democrats and liberal zionists fam t. guy who finds Chapo entertaining

i thought zero was mostly for real literary discussion, cth is for fun

turns out more people like fun

literature is fun

Yeah I guess you're right

yeah it can be
fuckin' nerd

someone's been on felix's twitter lately i see

What do they actually talk about on Chapo Trap house? I've listened to one of their podcasts and basicaly only the woman they interviewed said anything interesting while the hosts were obnoxious.

They mostly just shit on beltway pundits who post dumb things on Twitter. It's becoming very passé.

i've never even heard of this channel until now

I think I want to personally murder whoever made this shitty video

Fuck you and fuck everyone who made this epilsepy shit "hip"

maybe when the culture is completely fake, and forced, when it's not allowed to give birth to its own spontaneous ideas.

If there's one thing I respect about Doug Lain it's how disciplined in his Marxism, particularly how true he is to DiaMat and Commodity Fetishism, and the degree to which he consistently BTFOs the idea of class as an identity and Marxism as cultural critique.

The Left has already had the upper hand in the "culture wars" in the past, and the outcome was neglectable because translating cultural preferences into politics is not as easy as people assume.

For example, there's little point in getting a lot of people convinced that Capitalism is bad if their idea of what it is and how to fight it will rarely intersect, and if you'll hit a brick wall whenever you attempt to step out of discourse and into action. In fact, this can often backfire, because people will grow frustrated over the lack of initiative and progress of this cultural Socialism, and that opens the door for reaction.

IMO, this whole thing is a bit liberal in its presumptions. They assume the machineries of the representative state under capitalism are strong and democratic enough to translate popular will into legislation, and that all they have to do is get everyone, or most people, in agreement regarding a few concepts.

Because Felix's speech impediment is not as strong and annoying as this dude's

It's not like Chapo has never made observations of this caliber before. Matt's rants for example can be very insightful, and in the right days they're even longer than those videos

Nigga, you just described Dialectical Materialism 101, material conditions precede culture and Base determines Superstructure. In contemporary circles this is viewed as "deterministic", and it's the main reason postmodernists and idpolers reject Marx, but at the end of the day Marx was right, when you put culture (superstructure) before Base (political economy) you end up getting a lot of gargled Idealist nonsense, and effective praxis becomes a joke as retards on twitter endlessly circle jerk about Lady Ghostbusters and how much they hate ScarJo in Ghost in the Shell. My point is, Marx really doesn't need any "updating", but the Left, and academia in general, could use to just actually go back and read him.

I like his voice, it's kind of comfy.

Don't bully Doug.

btw speaking of Matt's rant he's going on one right now on Periscope: pscp.tv/w/1BRKjWOWPYoGw

Listening to Doug's video's and podcasts have actually gotten me thinking over the past couple of months. A lot of Marxists, especially the Hegelian Western Marxists, have focused a lot on Marx's concept of Ideology, as it's described in the Young Marx's German Ideology, but there's a lot of evidence that the Mature Marx largely rejected his earlier concept of Ideology in favor of Commodity Fetishism, and in any part of Das Kapital where you think he'd talk about Ideology he always talks about Fetishism. Anyway, I think Marx's concept of Fetishism has a lot more depth and potential then Ideology, and it's expressly less "humanist", or less "Hegelian", or even less "spooked" then his concept of Ideology, but almost no Marxist has ever put any time or energy into thinking in this framework, however, I think a lot of recent ideas in Object-Oriented-Ontology are actually really in line with this anti-humanist Mature Marx, and I've always wondered what you'd get if you mixed Das Kapital with Speculative Realism.

Damn it! I don't have a twitter and I can't ask him questions!

That was the point of the video by the way.

True, but they offer some insightful political commentary, and they have good guests for the most part. Plus they have a coherent belief system, and that's pretty hard to find nowadays.

I know, I'm a big fan of Doug and one of the main reasons I respect him is how staunchly he adhere's to Marx's theories, I made this post because I thought this user didn't exactly get the video and didn't realize he was already arguing what the video was getting at, a critique of Gramsci and Marxism as cultural critique.

Its a great video, the vaporwave was a nice touch

So is it a good book?

Yes nigga, I know. I actually already know everything you wrote and I'm wondering why the fuck you wrote it.

How does this relate to something like Society of the Spectacle? Was Debord talking about Festishism (is that where the spectacle ultimately derives from?) or was he basing his work on a concept of a Young Marx's Ideology?

Also where would you recommend I do reading on Object-Oriented-Ontology and what background would I need to get the most out of it?

Holla Forums should listen to this, it's pretty good

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I was drinking and posting last night, sorry famiglia.

Graham Harman's Towards Speculative Realism and The Quadruple Object are good introductions. Also his Tool-being and Levi Bryant's The Democracy of Objects are good too, but a lot longer. Aside from that Quentin Meillassoux's After Finitude is a great quick easy read, although it isn't OOO, I actually kind of like Meillassoux the best out of all the Speculative Realists, and Timothy Morton's book Ecology Without Nature is a must is you're into ecology.

I actually think both Althusser and Debord come very close to this Mature Marx, it's more the Frankfurt School that I think tended to skew towards the Young Marx's Idealism, I think there's a richness to how Althusser understood Das Kapital in a way that you don't always get in Adorno or Marcuse (who were very good Hegelians, but Marxist theory should be a sublation of Hegel, not a return to him). In fact, I'd say Adorno is literally the single most sophisticated Dialectician behind Hegel and Marx themselves, but I think by the point he was writing Kapital Marx's project had become very different.

Also, if you go back and read your post it reads like you didn't understand that you were saying exactly what Doug already said, it was a little unclear, but I was pretty drunk, so apologies for my extreme autism fam.

Mind you, I still like Adorno, Benjamin, and Marcuse quite a bit, I just think there's an entire sphere of Marx's thought that has gone mostly untapped.

TRUMP BTFO CONFIRMED youtu.be/nvHIvK9eQAs

This video doesn't even make fucking sense.

liked, subscribed. nice vid

I'll give that shit a read, thanks fam. It's profoundly embarrassing that I could do so many years of philosophy while barely touching Hegel and the continental stream in general. The closest I got was Wittgenstein, the rest was all (mostly) Kantian liberal theory.

Then you'll probably really like a lot of Speculative Realism as one of it's goals is to bridge the gap between Continental and Analytical philosophy.
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Also, Harman and Bryan do a lot of work around Wittgenstein and Whitehead, although the criqique of Kant and Post-Kantian philosophy is central to the entire project.

God I hate this cunt

OOO is trash

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Here's Zizek completely towering over Mr. Harman.

Idk, they seem to play off eachother very well, there seems to be a lot of mutual respect here.

it's unavailable now, what was matt ranting about here

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