"Trumpcare" passed and basically everyone is fucking pissed

"Trumpcare" passed and basically everyone is fucking pissed.

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adding gasoline to the dumpsterfire that is America

Apparently at least 24 million are going to be uninsured now thanks to this.
The revolution couldn't come soon enough.

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I fucking hate paul ryan

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There's no way they can continue to pull this shit off without some kind of major bust-up within our lifetimes, right?

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Even Holla Forums (at least on halfchan) is seeing through it and realizing that it's literally just Obamacare plus a tax cut for the wealthy.

Good.

FULL ACCELERATION

twitter.com/cspan/status/860200373964951552

Look at these fucking pigs. LOOK AT THEM.

I can only hope. There's mass unrest and this is America we're talking about, where everyone has access to firearms.
Instead of dying to some untreated disease because you're uninsured, why not go out and kill as many politicians as you can?

Seems like a lot of people are going to lose their health insurance.

salon.com/2017/05/04/sen-sherrod-brown-lists-the-preexisting-conditions-that-will-be-lost-under-trumpcare/

youtube.com/watch?v=-bzWSJG93P8

As a diabetic, I hope all of the edgy teen accelerationists on Holla Forums get inoperable brain tumors and die horrific deaths before they can finish watching their favorite faggot anime.

That was Gavrilo Princip's motivation if I'm not misinformed.

Unless everyone in opposition will die off from getting a cold.

wew lad

I would consider myself a semi-accelerationist,but your right, this is too fucking barbaric to encourage or celebrate.

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I hope you get a brain aneurysm and drop dead if you cheer this shit on in the name of "accelerationism"

Cool your jets

There's no way this will pass the Senate in its current form. And any changes the Senate makes sure as fuck won't pass the House again.

Thanks to the Freedom Caucus, Republicans either have to give up on repealing Obamacare or end Trump's first term without doing ANYTHING with healthcare.

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/124089679#q124089679

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/124093756#q124093756

Imagine being this class cucked.

The Freedom Caucus supports this version of it.

Don't take it out on us if you're angry. Go bomb your city hall or something.

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I want you to fucking die too so you people with no struggle can see the impact of your bullshit meme. Crunch hard on a cyanide capsule faggot.

Yeah, this version, but not the version it will morph into if it manages to pass the Senate.

Oh god my sides, what is happening

america lol

Good God we need a serious leftist party in the U. S.

That sounds like saving instead of investing, not taking risks, etc.

The Obamacare repeal hurts more Trump Voters than Clinton voters though.

I hope you have that much anger stored up for the leftcoms who said not to vote and claimed it didn't matter whether Clinton or Trump got into power. ;^)

it's newspeak for 'liberal' because americans turned 'liberal' into a meaningless epithet, thus rightists don't want to use it to describe their own views

CAN YOU SHUT THE FUCK UP COMMIES :^)

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You get the bullet along with the Holla Forumsyps.(USER WAS BANNED FOR BEING TOO EDGY)

I think accelerationism is a bad idea precisely because it produces reactions like yours; this shit will happen anyway and we need to be seen as the defenders of the proles, not as people cynically cheering on intensified exploitation.

That said, we still need to take the opportunity porky handed to us and use it to radicalize as many people as possible.

Chill out the dude could have the diabetes that you are born with.

Never use that emoticon again, you clearly don't know how to employ it correctly.
t. People's Commissar for correct memery.

You know Breaking Bad is a uniquely American program: because nowhere else in the developed fucking world would you have to cook crystallised methamphetamine to pay for cancer bills.

He might have type 1.

I hope DPRK nukes your retarded cultureless country

I don't like them, but goddamnit that's funny.

Jesus dude

Ill leach off of the taxayers any time I want bitch

Why should I fucking care? Proles deserve to die because they got conned into voting in porky's interested? Nice class consciousness. I'll remember how the poor dumb Trump voters are dying too while I can't afford insulin. That'll really improve my situation.

All the normies on halfchan Holla Forums are extremely fucking distressed about it though. This is just Holla Forums being in denial

I was born with type 1 diabetics, but keep telling me how people who develop a disease later in life, regardless of whether their actions played an impact or not deserve to die. You sure don't sound like a fucking Holla Forumsyp.

The separation of powers is a fucking joke because lobbies + CIA is the most powerful institution since information > money.
How the fuck do you want to change the institution with all these shits on your road?
And don't make me start about the mainstream medias and their manipulation…

Holy shit they made rape and sexual assault pre-existing conditions.

nymag.com/thecut/2017/05/under-new-healthcare-bill-rape-is-a-pre-existing-condition.html

Good. I haven't had healthcare or seen a doctor in over a decade. Now we might actually have another chance at single payer in a few years.

Hello Holla Forums.

This. These are the same people that want the authorities to deport millions of people out of their homes and shoot refugees at the borders, why should we care about the uncaring? Fuck them all.

I'd get angry but you simply don't even know how diabetes works lmfao

You can manage type 1 100% through your diet, no medication required.

See above and get some fucking self control.

Treating cancer is cheap as fuck, it's just illegal in most states (Cannabis oil is more effective than Chemo). I'm fine with socialized healthcare, but Obamacare was not socialized healthcare. Outlaw the operation of insurance companies, create a 5% flat tax and close all tax loopholes. Fucking done, it's not complicated. Currently I'm getting fucked to the tune of $300 a year for health insurance that doesn't cover shit and I'll never be able to benefit from it (massive premium), because otherwise I'd be paying a $700 premium so that porky mcfatfuck over there who wishes death on anyone who doesn't want to pay for his gibs can get his diabeetus pills instead of fixing his diet.

Right back at you, you false flagging neetsoc piece of shit.

Democrats are happy about something that will kill people because it'll be politically beneficial to them in the future. This is why there's no such thing as a good politician.

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with the amount of inter-bank loaning i'd also say money is information

Guillotines fucking when

My body doesn't produce insulin, you fucking retard. Kill yourself.

*penalty
Trump ran on an authoritarian nationalist platform, which is literally fascism. Hilariously he turned out to be yet another status quo neocon puppet in the end, but if you voted for Trump, you voted for fascism.

I'm actually agreeing with you, not the other moron you're quoting. I said why should I fucking care because I don't care who someone voted for, they don't deserve to lose their health care because of it. That's for narcissistic liberals who worship death to believe in.

Haha yeah u guys are gonna change the world by establishing yourself at the bottom of a broken system. The people who run shit will rape kill and murder to achieve their goals, but you will get your LGBT EEKWULL RIGHTS UTOPIA by passively working in their system. By sitting back and reading books that old dead white dudes wrote you are going to get what you want out of life. The barbarians of the world are going to stay at the helm and always control every aspect of your life, and you will only occasionally get a small victory that maybe effects like 5 people in the long term, but the fact that your enemies get 100x stronger every day can be overlooked. Das kapital! And das religion! And das opiates de volkes! And la da la la da la la da someone hit me in the fucking head so I am dumb enough to understand your endgame here.

Tbh i doubt any of you gives a fuck about "workers" or the consequences of your actions/inactions which enable every sociopath fuck who brings suffering to the world. You all just want a bigger cut of the King's Loot. You don't give a fuck about the thousands of people who are going to die for no reason today, even though we are all the same person or you will eventually go through that hell you allowed to exist. Great job you fraud fucks!

That was great. Holla Forumsyps blowing themselves the fuck out so badly they delete their own posts.

I know, it's cartoonishly evil.

no

Where did you copypaste this shit from

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So did Hillary. :^)

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You're an uncompassionate prick. People who developed diabetes deserve care just as much as you do, because they made mistakes. They should not die for their mistakes and lack of self control.

Nice fucking derail.

meant for you

Are you even anticapitalist?

I agree. Holla Forums lacks compassion.

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If they voted to mass deport people out of their homes then they deserve to be killed.

Hillary supporters wanted Hillary to deport millions of people? Nice joke.

HAHAHA

Yep, that's called compassion, the bedrock of the left, and the only way it will win.

I'm reading twitter and it seems most of them are saying the only losers are nonwhites and women, and that white men benefit from this. Can this be true?

who let the reactionaries out

"Insurers are banned from denying coverage for pre-existing conditions"

this is now NATIONWIDE

or at least in this bill

thank god, poorfags belong in the trash.(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)

Why is this a bad thing???

According to the tweet in your picture, it's more like women and nonwhites are absolutely not represented in the congress/senate and it's true.

Hillary as secretary of state oversaw plenty of refugee deportations, Hillary as senator voted for tightened border security. I think it's true that Hillary misled people about what she would do if elected - but so did Trump, that's why the two of them combined for 94% of the vote! If you're going to write off half the proletariat (or more, because if you're at all intellectually consistent you should write off the Hillary voters too) you will never achieve socialism.

You mean billionaires.

That's not what the tweet says you stupid fuck. Stop trying to damage control and hop off the trump train before it's too late

Nevermind, just noticed

so you guys think poor people should parasitize off middle-class taxpayers. interesting concept

I bet you listen to Joe Rogan. Fuck off to your containment board.

Any politician not supporting single payer at this point needs to primaried and then guillotined. It's almost cartoonish had insanely inhumane the health care in this country is.

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oops sorry user, meant for this dipshit

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If anything they will be emboldened to raise prices in response to this "de-regulation" of what was a shitty sweet-heart capitalist deal in the first placeand in any case the cost of service is beyond what a normalfag can afford esp if it is a life threatening illness. Only the rich who already could afford their own care are gonna benefit much from said tax cuts for most people not a damn thing will change.

Fuck you, you useful little classcuck middle class people are people that haven't been as fucked over as poor people
Poor people also pay their fucking taxes

Race and gender are spooks, this is just the typical liberal retard who tries to analyze capitalism in these dynamics and comes to the shocking conclusion that demographics overrepresented among the poor suffer.

If you're a white man (or a black woman) with health insurance company stock, or one of the rare jobs that gives people effective, meaningful insurance, you might benefit. If you're without, you'll suffer regardless of race or gender.

You both are retards. There is no middle class. There are only 2 classes, Worker and Owner.

It's dead, Jim.

washingtonexaminer.com/senate-wont-vote-on-house-passed-healthcare-bill/article/2622152

And to answer your question: yes I am anticapitalist but I'm also anti-racist and anti-sexist.

Then I guess we should just forgive murderers and rapists.

True but she never campaigned for that and her supporters didn't supported her because that.

A lot of the people that voted for Trump were poor and uneducated workers who are desperate about their current personal situations. Stop being such reactionary fucks.

Fuckin good

LOL

No you fucking retard. What I am saying is: Hillary supporters are not as bad as Trump supporters.

interesting, so how do you call a business owner who makes $20,000 a year by selling his home-grown vegetables, a farmer or a filthy exploiter pig

They're the same steaming turd.

It's not about compassion or forgiveness, but class-consciousness, self-interest, and historical necessity. You can not win without them. They can not win without you.

OR maybe just women, nonwhites and LGBT people are not represented in the congress/senate because of the structures.
Go read some sociology books, especially ones made by French sociologist!

Does he employ someone else to do the work for him?

You answered yourself.

BEYOND RETARDED

Fucking hell.

Yes, you should. I assume you're for the death penalty, but I'm not, and so on some level I do forgive them.

Your second point is valid but
This is fucking stupid.

But yes Hillary is better than Trump because she didn't ran on an openly anti-immigrant borderline racist platform. Any bad act of her she would have to hide it from the public while Trump unashamedly justifies his bad acts to the public.

Did Hillary supporters wanted the government to deport millions of people out of their homes and to ban refugees from entering the country?

can you not read? "home grown vegetables"

he grows vegetables at home, maybe he has a small farm or a big garden, picks tthem up, packages them and drives to the market to sell them

is he an owner or a worker/farmer?

Stopped reading there.

He's a worker if he doesn't employ anyone else.

If he does not employ and exploit a waged worker then he is not a part of the owner class.

Well its better than obama care. Honestly insurance companies should be illegal because they drive up prices, and create a situation where you get fucked over if you don't have insurance.

what the fuck am i reading

Cool, as if they needed to seem more smug and out of touch.

All of those groups are represented in congress and the senate. Not in equal proportion to their share of the population, of course, but it tracks pretty closely with their share of the bourgeoisie. Heck, some of them even voted for Trumpcare. (it's easily provable with regard to women and nonwhites if you check the fucking roll call, with regard to LGBT people it's highly likely, but LGBT Republicans stay in the closet.)

No, everyone outside the bourgeoisie is oppressed according to their class position.

Racism and sexism are over!

People that want to deport and murder innocent people are not my allies, they are my enemies.

No, I support slowly torturing murders and rapists to death.

Of course because unlike Trump she doesn't attempt to defend it and justify it as good actions and therefore get accepted and validated by the general public.

Racism and sexism are going to be solved by inventing more women and minorities into the oppressor class?

and they were tricked into voting for a rich asshole who treats them even worse than obama or clinton would.
i've talked to the trumpkult in person, they follow him blindly, 100%, and would support him if he killed their mothers in front of them. how can such people possibly be saved?

The Senate version will be milder and then when it goes back to the House the Freedom Caucus won't support it because it won't fully appease the ghost of Ayn Rand. Could potentially be good news I guess.

Still, I'd rather Trump make healthcare even worse than it was prior to Obamacare. Really the only feasible way that I see of getting single payer.

you're on the wrong board

It was a fucking disaster and a pain in the ass for everyone I knew who had to deal with it. For fucks sake it forced people buy insurance or be penalized. For the vast majority of people, insurance is a gamble that usually doesn't pay off, that's the entire fucking reason why insurance companies are in business. The system is an axe wound and Obamacare was a corporatist bandaid. Focus on actually destroying Capitalism instead of whining that now it's going to be marginally worse.

A peasant.

the ACA wasnt great, we all know this, but some of us know people who may in fact die because of the AHCA. just so the rich can have more tax breaks. when are we beheading this fat orange fuck?

Enjoy losing. Seriously. Because when you're cheering people's deaths because you think more of them voted for someone you despise, you'll have an awful lot more losing to look forward to in the future.

Obamacare is horrendous and was literally written by the insurance industry. The real problem is that this new bill is Obamacare on steroids under the guise of a repeal and a replacement. Minus the pre-existing condition clauses.

I wonder if we'll see spontaneous demonstrations like after Trump tried to sign the immigration order? People are seething right now.

Stop being so dramatic. They've been fed propaganda that the reason they don't have a job or a decent one is because of immigration and globalism, and that refugees are dangerous criminals, it's entirely rational for them to be against those things from the standpoint of their ignorance. Stop being a smug liberal that blames people for not being as indoctrinated as you.
Maybe you shouldn't pretend to have the moral high ground when you hold such reactionary viewpoints.
Because she's trying to court a different demographic, not because she actually believes any differently.

That blames people for being more indoctrinated than you*

Its already killed in the Senate so I doubt it.

They're dying because of Capitalism, same as millions throughout the world.

It's still silly to complain that you're losing the shitty situation to something more shitty. People should be focusing that the shit exists at all, not that it's getting worse.

That's exactly what I'm criticizing. Who cares if those groups are """represented""" in the State?

Nobody is saying this you schizoid fuck. Stop greentexting any time now.

this is democrat-tier

This is what always happens to reformist legislation: it gets jettisoned as soon as it becomes possible to do so.

I'm saying people shouldn't be bitching that things are getting shitty, but that things are shit at all, and wishing for the less shitty stuff back is fucking stupid.

why are you pissed? legit question. I don't understand. can you give me a critically thought out response and reason why this is a bad thing? don't get me wrong I think hillary is great and everything.

Oh, my bad then. Liberals are beyond parody sometimes. I've seen the ironic "racism is solved" stuff from them a lot.

I hope so, but I'll believe it when I see it. Not as though the senate bill will be much better.

At least that fucking fine is gone.

An estimated 43,000 deaths a year if this passes. Plus tax cuts over 10 years worth 600 billion dollars for 400 individuals.

It's not class warfare, it's class genocide.

But he is not a rent seeker so thus does not exploiting anyone. So he is not a part of the Owner class aka Bourgeoisie

BASED youtu.be/K9zmiF810rw

Losing would be helping my political enemies.

I don't despise Trump, I despise people that wanted Trump to deport people out of their homes.

You only say that because it's not you that's being arrested and forced out of your home.

And they believed it so they deserve everything they wish for to happen to migrants and "non-whites" to happen to them.

Leftism is all about justice, if you don't want to enact justice on actual criminals, then you're the reactionary.

Obviously but my point is that Hillary supporters are better than Trump supporters and Hillary is better in that she didn't attempt to change the window of discourse towards the far-right like Trump did.

Yes, that is true. A peasant is not bourgeois, and he is a producer. He does, however, have a fence around a piece of property that he claims as his own.

Go read a book you reactionary dumbass.

Torture and death is not my conception of justice.

Justice is only attainable with empathy and compassion, and yes, punishment but only through rehabilitation.

At least hes a good singer youtu.be/K9zmiF810rw

Just in time

unless you're talking about the bourgisie then you are the reactionary here you fucking retard

pinochet-tier

They are people who feel their livelihoods threatened and blamed the wrong parties. It is an understandable mistake to make in the present reality.

Flailing against the wrong enemy out of morallistic outrage is reactionary. That is exactly what you are doing.

Yes she did. What do you think "far-right" is?

there are people who will literally die because this bill takes away their insurance. don't try to make it into some abstract thing.

Why do I delude myself? We are going to die.

I hope you every single one of you on this board visits this website and learns how to cook their own plant-based food. Good luck buckos.

nutritionfacts.org/video/how-not-to-die/

And why is it changing? Because the wrong candidate won the election? No, it is changing, because the people who have economic power want it to change.

What a horrible designed website

If not for capitalism they wouldn't have to pay so much for medical treatment, dumbfuck.

i don't like defending hillary but there's no way she would have pushed this bill

Then you're cutting off your nose to spite your face. If you care more about keeping Trumpcucks in the conditions of proles than you do about abolishing the class system, you aren't going to be emancipated either - or if you are it will be in spite of your own political efforts. You need to radicalize them, not to cheer when they get screwed by the same forces which will screw you as well.

(And frankly, someone voting to keep the wife of NAFTA's architect out of office has a lot of sympathy from me, even if I ultimately disagree with their conclusion. Many people voted for Trump for reasons other than "you have to go back" just as many people voted for Hillary for reasons other than wanting to start a war with Russia.)

Leftism is not about "justice", it's about revolution and the abolition of the class system. Justice is a religious notion.

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Fucking lol.

tbh i think obama deserves a lot of blame for this. if he had kept the public option in the original aca the republicans wouldn't be able to do this.

Yep. Pelosi too.

kys

Then you don't care about justice.

Justice is only attainable with empathy and compassion FOR the victims which would provoke a deep hatred for the criminals and desire to punish i.e. retaliate against them.

So you support murderers and rapists?

Sure it is, I was one of them after all, but it isn't a forgivable mistake unless they repent of their mistake and change their view.

So murderers and rapists are a-okay in a socialist society? Because that's what I'm specifically talking about here.

Extreme nationalism, nativism and racism, which Hillary isn't and Trump pretended to be.

The Democrats are so far up their own asses they believe this will be their comeback, not with Pelosi and the losing streak they have suffer.

We're all just going to have to tighten our belts and eat a healthier diet. Also be sure to get plenty of exerc…. PPFFFFFFFHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

kys

Man, fuck all that, let me be a burden on society!

Wrong, you biblical prick. Hammurabi's code is for role-players, not those with a developed moral worldview.

Human waste is still human waste no matter what they eat.

Justice is a measured and rational response, but an anger fueled reaction, never mind that victims do no always or even most of the time hate criminals or wish to torture and kill them.

pay up faggot

That's how social liberalism works. You pass bills nominally helping people, but they're so watered-down by corporate giveaways and "moderates" (and often funded not by the bourgeoisie, but by shifting the tax burden around the proletariat) that they fail to actually improve the lives of a majority of people. Then you lose the next election and even that half-measure gets repealed.

With any luck, the people you helped and hurt in the process will be numbered about equally, one half will be loyal and the other will be bitter, and neither will look at any left wing alternatives!

*not an anger etc.

Yes, PLEASE!

He's right, fam.

Hillary was extremely nationalistic "great because we're good," nativist "send back the fleeing central american children to 'send a message,'" and racist "foreign policy record, superpredator comments, hot sauce garbage".

No he's not.

That's revenge he's describing, not justice.

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why is he not banned yet lol

So you aren't human waste yourself?

How do they fuck up harder than Obamacare? Twice even. I just dont get the Republican obsession with making victories into fuckups even harder than Democrats ever could. What the fuck.

So are you morbidly obese? You're quite defensive about this, did I struck a nerve chubs?

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Yes. Take it out on the bystanders. Porky dindu du nuffin!

I'm all for abolishing the class system, Trumpcucks are the ones fighting to keep it and further fuck others over because they are immigrants.

Sure but they tolerated that specific policy which shows their lack of concern for others.

Nobody voted for Hillary because they wanted a war with Russia, stop this retarded Holla Forums meme.

Maybe for your watered down uninspiring economic deterministic "leftism". What's abolition of class system if not justice for the oppressed workers? Wouldn't you agree that capitalism is unjust? Stop trying to be the most boring uninspiring political activist ever.

You don't have morality.

That's justice.

That's because they are brainwashed by pacifist ideology.

Agreed but did she openly promote these policies in her campaign?

True justice is revenge. Fuck out of here you pacifist liberal coward.

Mods confirmed for salty butthurt diabetic lard titans.

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The Simpsons used to be so good.

They'll have her running against Mark Zuckerberg too.

Give the American people what they want. The American people actively want children to die if they have a pre-existing condition. They actively want people who can't afford healthcare to die in the street, those leeches. The American people are a vile lot.

Oh, you were actually serious.

Back to >>>Holla Forums ignoramus.

I want 17th century protestant moralists to leave.

universal health care is actually popular with the public, but porky hates it so it can't happen

pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/01/13/more-americans-say-government-should-ensure-health-care-coverage/

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I can guarantee this user here has self-inflicted diabetes due to mass gluttony and not because of any genetic issue.
LITERAL PORKY

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If universal health care is so popular, why do people keep voting for politicians who actively want to make it impossible for them to get insurance?

Why is it considered a victory if it still has to get through the senate?

Because Propaganda is very, very powerful stuff, and is everywhere.

Because CNN sucks Trump's asshole and wants him to be down with them so they can get access.

the tyranny of low expectations

I think people are smart enough to realize that they're voting for themselves to lose coverage. They just want leeches to lose coverage and die.

I guess they want to lose that fake news label they got from him.

Literally no politicians in burgerstan run on a pro-single payer platform. Bernie sanders was the only one who did and he was pretty popular but he was screwed out of a legitimate chance at it by his own party. Neither Clinton, nor Obama supported single-payer during the 2008 debate in spite of the massive political capital that the collapse of capitalism under Bush gave the Democrats.

The last time single-payer was even seriously entertained was during the New Deal when there was considerably less need for it due to a younger population and far lower costs for medical service. Cold War democrats killed any notion of it completely along with the phenomenon of political solidarity strikes via Taft-Hartley that might have forced the issue.

because they're not generally given a choice for candidates that favor universal health care. which candidate in the last election favored it?

Most people don't think about these things with any depth. Work is very tiring and not everyone is equipped to grapple with these ideas, so rather than engaging with solutions they make their decisions based on cultural cues.

Senate will pass it.
They will change the reconciliation rules and pass it, just like how they got Gorbitch on the supreme court.

Screenshot this.

Senate said earlier they are writing their own bill and aren't voting on the one the House passed, but yeah I could see them changing the reconciliation rule which would allow the Medicaid cuts to pass with 51 votes.

People on Medicaid are about to have their lives ruined.

I honestly don't understand how Americans can be this gigacucked.

Currently in America, you have two effective options on the healthcare question:

(1.) Keep Obamacare as the status quo
(2.) Gut Obamacare, in particular, this will make it extremely expensive for people with pre-existing conditions to pay for care.

People are voting FOR (2.), and actively want (2.). It is well known that people will die due to being unable to afford care under (2.). And yet people actively want (2.), despite many of these same people being the ones who would lose care. Americans just want the sick/poor to die.

Hasn't the senate said that they won't even put it to a vote?

Is this not a good source?

they're going to pass their own version

Pretty suspect

But the point is there's no way to vote for a better situation then the status quo. No one is denying there's a large number of classcucked individuals but the fact is the vast majority of people are to the Left of the establishment on this issue and healthcare wasn't the selling point in Trump's election but rather his appeals to economic nationalism were which have a very strong history in burgerland.

Obamacare was basically a big-giveaway to the insurance companies and health-industrial complex, there's no way to save it and advance single payer. It was always designed to be imminently conservative it was known as "Romneycare" before Obama adopted it.

counterpunch.org/2017/04/25/its-impossible-to-support-single-payer-and-defend-obama-care/

The average person is very confused about politics. When polled Americans say they want universal healthcare and higher taxes on the rich but also say they oppose "big government".

We also are just not given any good option. Most Democrats say universal healthcare is impossible and would rather lose to Republicans than implement than any kind of change. If you try to support a third party the electoral process is rigged against you and people will say you're splitting the vote or wasting your time.

It's a conspiracy, pharma is paying off mass media (they advertise medication because that's legal in america) to make the bill look inevitable and everyone will just give up hope. It's still stoppable, unless they kill the filibuster they need 60 to pass, and even senate republicans are shifty about this bill. Stay angry, this is the same shit they used to make it look like Bernie had no chance of winning by announcing super delegates before they committed to voting yet.

Why are you retards taking the b8. If this person actually believes this reactionary garbage they are beyond helping. 90% of Trump voters probably have more class consciousness then them.

Mods ban this tool.

Pelosi should be one of the first in line for the guillotine.

Great!

Gay.

30 years of corruption and sometimes literal muder more than show's how shockingly evil the hilldog was/is

take the nihilism pill

Hahahahaha you are 100% driven by your ego. 0% of your decisions are based on logic. You rely on things like piercings tattoos and manbuns to get your point across instead of the integrity of your word. You literally get high off a like or retweet. The only thing that protects you from feeling embarassment from this revelation is your overconfidence(see: 🍀🍀🍀your ego🍀🍀🍀) based on the fact that that there are millions of copies of you doing the same thing who will always have your back. You will fall behind when the clones find a new master to leech onto when the next trend starts and you will be left behind in your own thoughts for the first time. At this point you will go insane as you realize you dedicated 90% of your energy toward impressing people who are nothing but followers and therefore you have gained zero skills that will help you cope with doing things on your own. You will slowly transition into being an adult and become less of a douchebag. Ironically, you will think of me, the nobody who you wrote off, and you will discover that I was using 88D 12 player chess to troll you for years. When you realize an anonymous internet troll was always cooler and smarter than you you will more than likely kill yourself. Why don't you save yourself some time and go walk in front of traffic?

Trips don't lie.

Kek is in this thread.

Why do liberals do this? Why are they so terrified to approach this from a class angle? Your average congressman got richer after the 2008 crisis. The analysis writes itself.

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ask kek to turn you white

But user, I am white.

🍀🍀🍀white🍀🍀🍀

Just kill yourself, do it.

You can't be serious, people that want to ban interracial relationships have more class consciousness than me? Because I want to torture murderers and rapists? What the fuck is going on here?

This is not Holla Forums sonny, people are free to express a dissent opinion. Mods ought to ban you for shitposting tho.

Hillary is evil but at least she didn't advertise herself as evil during her campaign and people didn't like her because of her evilness like Trump and his supporters did.

Meanwhile, Trump is leaving for a trip to Saudi Arabia and Israel. Lel.

Read Bill Maher

Nah, wouldn't he be more to your liking? Since you're both fedora-tipping pacifist liberal cowards?

Because they wouldn't be liberals then.

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DOES THIS MEAN I HAVE TO
STILL
PAY A PENALTY IF I DON'T HAVE HEALTH INSURANCE?

90% of Trump voters want to ban interracial marriage now?

[citation needed]

Why is her hair tucked into her shirt?

pic related makes me feel like

If morality means literally Medieval retributionism, then no decent person should.
What is the point of justice? To satisfy your bloodlust? To feel all the delightful emotions of anger, hate, and disgust towards an acceptable target? How progressive.
To a violence-fetishist anything more nuanced or less destructive then their desires is pacifism.
Why? What does revenge accomplish? How does inflicting more suffering onto the world and continuing the circle of violence diminish suffering and violence?

You have extremely little empathy or even commonsense to think that people like Trump because he's evil. They liked him because he was seen as an alternative, someone who could fix the problems of the system, someone who'd prevent dangerous people from entering their country, someone who'd fix the economy so they could have a decent job.

big, if true

How the fuck do they know they're diseases?

Pour one out for the people who won't make it as we accelerate.

Their sacrifice will not be forgotten.

Seems like a good time to take advantage of an angry mob.
also does anyone have any posters for distribution? :) or is someone willing to make one?
Something like: Who is taking your healthcare? Who moved American manufacturing overseas? The capitalist will watch you die before he lets you hurt his profits! Clinton 2020!

youtube.com/watch?v=VTHsOSGJHN0

they can test the ice and water from melted ice for viruses and bacterium.

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They literally have no idea what "single payer" is.

Every time opinions are polled on Medicaid and Medicare or even VA–they're overwhelmingly popular. (Also, God help you if you try to take away seniors' Medicare.) Btw, this bill cuts Medicaid funding by 800 billion.

People like their healthcare under Obamacare and want it improved, not repealed. When people are polled on "ACA" it's popular. When they're polled on "Obamacare" it's unpopular. The media has scaremongered so hard people don't even know what insurance they have or what Obamacare is, but they LIKE it.

I was exaggerating, but it's true that most Trump voters wanted Trump to build le wall and deport people which aren't actions of class-conscious individuals.

Then they are not decent persons.

Retribution and ultimately elimination of the criminal (murderer, rapist).

To inflict pain back at the aggressor and then kill him.

What's wrong in taking pleasure at payback?

I'm not progressive, I'm regressive, we need to go back to the good old days of medieval torture but this time done to the right people not "heretics" but proven murderers, rapists and torturers.

Revenge accomplishes fair punishment therefore justice.

It's not inflicting suffering onto the world, it's inflicting suffering on persons that first inflicted suffering on others. The only way to diminish initiatory violence is to defend it with retaliatory violence, not ignore it or forgive it.

If you don't feel a deep hatred and urge to punish oppressors then you lack compassion for the victims/oppressed.

Watch that webm or visit Holla Forums then.

Yeah by deporting millions of innocent people minding their own business and by preventing people from living wherever they want.

That's prejudice because they are assuming every immigrant is a bad, dangerous person instead of judging them on an individual basis.

The only good thing but Sanders promised the same thing minus attacking innocent people.

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And for an encore, Trump will sign TPP into law to help the wealthy even further

Holla Forums has always supported the TPP you cuck.

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TrumpCare? Pfft, more like DonTcare eyy

Then I don't want "justice".
t. every single reactionary, fascist, and criminal in existence. You are very similar to the people you hate.
Stop using circular reasoning.
Who most likely had suffering inflicted onto them. That's the entire fucking idea behind the circle of violence.
Literally, factually untrue. Your entire position is feels > reals and once based upon prison-industrial complex propaganda.
Nice false dichotomy.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rehabilitation_(penology)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Restorative_justice
I have plenty of compassion, I'm just not short-sighted reactionary whose solutions don't actually fix anything but exist to follow the individual's and populations bloodlust and hate onto an acceptable individual.
That's how you see it, not how they see it, and you'd know that if you had empathy.
Yes, no one disagrees that they're ignorant, but that's the problem, that they believe the propaganda fed to them. Again, you have the typical liberal self-righteousness because you aren't as indoctrinated as them in certain areas.
And maybe Sanders would've been elected by many of Trump's voters if they had that choice, or even knew who he was.

The number of restrainers should have some symbolic value. Maybe 13 to represent the initial colonies?

What's the paper sheet and tree supposed to say in the bottom left panel?

And yet you say that you're on the side of the working people.

Silly user, capitalism can't kill people, only socialism can.

They were going to do this to you anyway. I feel for you, but reforms will always be rolled back.

Reminder to rub this in the face of every liberal who supported Hillary over Bernie.

WEW LAD

youtube.com/watch?v=D0_-rpxfYeo

Jimmy is pretty based here

Oh I'm sorry, I mistook you for someone with something worth saying. Turns out you're a meme-spewer who doesn't know what words mean.

You are not a communist.

CNN keeps sucking so hard.

twitter.com/allinwithchris/status/860289930722811906

kek

Well the earth is somewhere between flat and spherical; it's an oblate spheroid.

Who the fuck are you arguing with dipshit, you think diabetes guy is the problem? You want socialized medicine but you're calling out the dude with diabetes for what, benefiting from provisions in Obamacare and being afraid of what Paul Ryan wants to do to him?

If you're so pissed about having to pay shitloads for a plan that gets you nothing, be pissed at congress. That dude just wants to live. And I'm in the same fucking position. I pay $300 for total shit healthcare that nobody accepts because it's all I can get.

So let's say this plays back into the liberals' hands: America is outraged and the GOP gets hosed in the midterms. The Dems take back the House and Senate.

Then what? It's not like the pendulum will swing any further left than what Obamacare was in the first place. There was a supermajority then and they still couldn't implement a public option. They'll probably just compromise and after all is said and done we'll be left with something even worse than the ACA.

Will it pass the senate?

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Are you in your early 20s or even younger? You don't know how common it is for health bullshit to hit people and land them in 10s of thousands of debt (or more) if they can't afford health insurance. All of my friends have been in the hospital at one point or another for something that just happened to them out of nowhere. One had a freak aneurysm, another started getting seizures from exhaustion due to working too much, another got in a horrible car accident that wasn't their fault, etc.

And then there are older people. My mom, who is very skinny, eats well and exercises every morning got some kind of blood clot during a flight that caused her to go temporarily blind in one eye. Shit happens dude.

I don't want to sound like some Bush-era liberal, but I'm really glad I left the country when I did.

It was a few years before the election, but at least now I know there's no reason to go back.

Kinda miss those guys compared to the Tumblr liberal age we've been living through.

Is this the same retard posting this shit on Holla Forums? That eating until you're morbidly obese is the only preexisting condition out there?

You have no struggle.
Kill yourself, you fucking hobbyist.

I don't even see celebration on Holla Forums, outside of hype for sticking it to Obama.

How bad is this bill?

It's pretty much Obamacare + fucks over people with pre-existing conditions + a tax cut for the wealthiest Americans

Great. Is this the final intended draft that'll replace Obamacare? Or something supplementary/stopgap?

Vast majority of health care costs come from derivatives of obesity epidemic
Only extend state coverage to those with sub 15%/20% (Males/Females) body fat
Also bar smokers
80% of Americans no longer drain the system
Those who cease eating McDeez with a shovel are reintroduced
BUT they no longer represent nearly the burden otherwise posed
Problem solved

p.s. Whites and Asians will never vote en mass to socialize medicine because they know shit tier races will consume far more resources than their people. They are willing to sacrifice their most vulnerable to stem the torrent of their productivity being used to prop up failing communities.

Senate will draft their version of the bill next.

The whole point is to take care of everyone. If you have people pay for a system they don't use, it simply won't exist.

you could try some subtlety if you're going to go through the effort writing all that weak bait

The American system is the most expensive HC system on the planet while also producing vastly inferior results. It's broken. The more you fuck with it the more likely it is going to get socialized.

I guess Asians are smarter than you give them credit for.

The vast majority of insurance companies partnering with the affordable care act either withdrew or went bankrupt
Americans as a whole are simply too unhealthy to be worth keeping their failing bodies upright
In the VAST majority of cases good health is EASILY attainable
Rice, lentils, frozen veggies, and the occasional walk are among the cheapest possible lifestyle choices
Demanding others pay heavily for your easily preventable medical conditions is akin to refusing to work in a welfare state

Did you even read what I said? The Japanese are 98+% racially and culturally homogeneous.

Why don't we just exclude fatties from coverage then?

Vast majority of cancers are not preventable. Also way to completely obscure the issue about the cost of healthcare. Typical classcuck.

LMAO.

the health of niggers and other minority trash will only degrade further. white people will once again become the rightful rulers of the united states of america.

feels. fucking. good.

"Vast majority of cancers are not preventable."

"way to completely obscure the issue about the cost of healthcare"

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Truly the republicans relish in being absolutely morally bankrupt

do a fucking google search my dude
ffs
I'm a premed student
cancer.gov/about-cancer/causes-prevention/risk/obesity/obesity-fact-sheet

Most of the people that benefited from Obamacare were white people my dude

Kill yourself wannabe petite bourgeoisie scum.

So you're a literal meme?

lmao that doesn't mean shit beyond planning on going to a med school
fuck off

I wanna go into research for heart valve repair….
my point was obesity is linked with cancer rates
can you children even count?

Really nigga?

If he's premed I'm fucking Kropotkin. Cancer is unpreventable and at best you can mildly reduce the risk. Also, there are literally dozens of factors more influential than obesity.

Also, CRISPR could probably be used to cure cancer but it will only ever be available to porky.

private practitioners can chew on a box of rusty nails

And yet Asians in the US consistently vote for policies like these.

Even those that did not cannot currently reject you for a pre-existing condition and cannot charge you different for it. You're misrepresenting what the ACA was.

Because it's cute

I agree with this dude

Yeah it was Holla Forums who caused this. Pay no attention to the porky behind the curtain.

Well, we're fucked.

And what's wrong with it?

Planted by the US military industrial complex warfare program for depopulation control, of-course.

I agree, doesn't matter if he was a moron, the mods are acting like offended pussies.

Stop acting retarded, these diseases are from long past, chances are they aren't dangerous to human health simply because of incompatibility.
They might infect some animals, but only the recent diseases have "learnt" to live in current conditions. The most dangerous diseases are the ones we live with now.
Note the difference between the first headline and the second; it already implies that it's just clickbait, because it's sensationalized in the primary headline.
Bacteria and viruses are not anything to worry about, the ones we have now are.

Bong here so forgive my ignorance, but is all this just happening because people get triggered by the previous arrangement being called "Obamacare"?

It's happening because it was funded by a tiny tax on the rich

this but unironically

MODS = FAGS

I don't think anyone here's been "ironic" about beheading politicians.

David Wojnarowicz, 1988.