Get in this thread comrades

I think that all these redditors that brought their "ban all the things I don't like" mentality with them should go back to their over-moderated shitholes.

These people have to go crawl into the very holes they crawled out of, too, because they are trying to destroy this place by turning it into a place that most of the people on here fled from. I'm fucking sick of all these anarchists that are nothing but liberal idpol apologetics.

*blocks your path*

All I want is for memes to be banned. They do nothing but stall discourse.

Probably not that I could link to.
Lemme start with all the threads about sex in communism that essentially boil down to sexist idpol, commodification of women and an air of self-entitlement when it comes to sex. People who take any gay shit being posted as "pushing it to be so progressive" ignoring that the person who posted it is probably just gay, as well as those people who would say any connection to the lgbt community automatically makes you an idpol liberal who needs to be purged, autists who take things like others having sex with each other as aggression upon themselves, people who are anti immigration because it would benefit the workers of their nation while ignoring the international proletariat.

And this guy.
Who claims that being hypocritical right-wing idpol spouting retards is what makes this board.
You know hey maybe it is now, wasn't always.

I'm gonna kick your fucking ass you revisionist right-winger faggot.
Get ready for some self-criticism.

If we aren't prepared to confront and refute nazi ideology (as argued by actual nazis, not secondhand caricatures of such) in our own board how the fuck do you expect us to do it in the wider world?

Also drop the "oh so educated" crap, this board seriously has the best grasp of theory I've seen on the lefty web. And if you're seriously using the "if you oppose idpol you secretly support another kind of idpol" tactic, fuck off forever.

To be frank the board quality has become much better than when I was a mod around one year ago. There are more mods which makes shitposting less present, but there is still one core problem: the faggot BO STILL hasn't made a set of well defined rules for mods to follow when giving out judgment.

This results in problems like mods banning on pure whim, deleting an IP's every post even when not necessary, disguised shitposts and spam ignored, and I may be forgetting more.

Please get a real set of rules.

literally this entire thread

also, fuck off with "you can't fight for any issue other than class". Malcolm X was a thousand times more revolutionary than any of you fucks

I don't expect us to go debate nazis out in the real world, that's a pathetic waste of time there and it's a pathetic waste of time here.
We should be organizing and building our own alternative structures to what the state and capitalism provide, and defending them.

This board has the second best grasp of theory I've seen on leftist imageboards and I'm not talking about /anarcho/. This place isn't that educated. I'm nothing special either of course but I mean, there's a lot here who don't read.

Also if you seriously support the "right wing idpol is anti-idpol" bullshit, please ban yourself from living.

To be fair the only thing I said to ban was Holla Forumsacks. Specifically the ones coming here to try to redpill us I should add.

you are like a little baby

ban liberals and other idpolers who keep trying to subvert the board

When some Holla Forumslack comes here to redbull us with le epic infographs he gets shat on and/or refuted shortly before getting banned, so I'm not sure what's your point.

Not consistently enough for me.

social conservatism is identity politics.

Nobody is saying that.

antiliberalism is not 'social conservatism'

How about neither

So is liberal identitarianism.

I'm consistently criticizing both, it's so frustrating to see people (on both sides of this stupid "argument") insinuate that because I criticize one I support the other.

Everybody is fucking saying that

You can't talk about racism, sexism, homophobia, or transgender issues on this board without everyone calling you an idpol liberal.

Why haven't you accepted the teachings of Our Sun in the Sky Chairman Mao? It is the only way for the proletariat to emancipated.

youtube.com/watch?v=XPcUiSVCNao

Sure but right wing identity politics are right wing identity politics.

Like, "live and let live"?
Then read my original post.

Consistently criticizing both? You realize I never spoke out in support of idpol, I purely attacked the right wing idpol present on the board and you rushed to defend it.

it's the way those things are talked about that causes the negative reaction

antiliberalism is not right wing identity politics

But right wing identity politics are. Stop trying to fucking deflect from the fact this board contains right wing idpol that doesn't get called out even close to as much as anything slightly liberal sounding. It's a form of hypocrisy that really makes us live up to our what should be incorrect reputation.

such as?

No it fucking isn't

The term idpol is supposed to be reserved for talking about identity in ways that ignore or actively promote class stratification. Instead, if you call yourself a feminist that makes you a fucking liberal here.

This stuff for one

no one wants to hear the whining, theatrics and self-pity found on tumblr and reddit. if you want to play that game there are plenty of other places to do it. i don't see why this board has to accommodate it. it's just divisive and destructive and will ruin the board

I don't know what the fuck you're talking about

I just don't think Huey P. Newton was a liberal and I think it's absolutely fucking ridiculous for anyone to say otherwise.

No, you are the one being divisive and destructive, with your hypocrisy.

Monitoring this thread.
Other mods don't touch this thread.

so what do you actually want to see? pro-gay, pro-islam, pro-blm threads full of repulsive drivel about "oppression," "white supremacy" and "intersectionality"?

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Both sides are commodified by the other, stop coddling women.
If anything I see them being retards for being socially inept autists who don't even attempt to put themselves out there and blame it all on muh only rich people get laid a bloo bloo bloo.
leftypol is basically bisexualpol with bullying characteristics
It does. The LGBT community is fucking cancer and full of shit stirring liberals.
These are jokes, user.
Immigration works against the international proletariat, they're used as scabs and to drive down the value of labour, to cause discord and distrust, and don't even effect the lives of people in the country people are migrating from, acting only as a brain drain and causing them further problems. I am against immigration and stand up for immigrants.
Nice ad-hom.
Wrong.

The fact that you even see this as a contentious issue shows how steeped in social conservative idpol you are.

I don't like Islam as a religion, but I believe in fighting for them when they are being repressed.

Some BLM people are already radical and a great many have enormous potential for radicalization. In any case, I hardly see movements against over-policing of and state terror directed at black communities as liberalism.

I'd have blasted the people in that thread (if you're indeed representing them accurately) if I saw it, but honestly reading with ">will socialism get me a gf" threads is just plain depressing so I hide them.

Not for political reasons, but because long-term loneliness sucks, it reminds me of a miserable time in my life, and I was lucky to escape (so I don't have any good answers for the people currently experiencing it.)

Yes
Depends on if its socialist muslims or non-socialist muslims.
The liberalization of blm was the radical lefts fault for distancing ourselves from it instead of further radicalizing it.

Why is being against white supremacy bad?
Why is being against oppression bad?
Why is what is essential non-sectarianism bad?
Again, why is being against white supremacy bad?

Not on Holla Forums itself though. Which is what we're talking about.

Yeah well that happened in a thread earlier today. One about, fucking something I'll look it up. Found it, that social Holla Forums thread.

No there's one guy with the socdem flag who honestly feels it makes him a victim and it's their fault.

These problems only happen on a mass scale. Mass immigration is usually because of refugees who have little choice and must go somewhere. Being anti-immigration would today, just have people bouncing around between refugee camps or sent back to warzones I think, hey I could be wrong.

I mean, no, I just clarified what his point was. My anti-idpol stance that's strong against right wing idpol, is against what this board is about according to him.

I don't just mean one thread. I used some of my favourite things I remember as examples.

the fact that you see glorifying or championing people who use their genitals in a certain way as something other than meaningless idpol shows how steeped in liberalism you are

your post reads like a slate article. sorry, but those things you've written are mainstream liberal talking points, and this is not a liberal community

I think we need more serious discussion starters, basically all threads with discussions are started by inane shiposts or Holla Forumsyps asking stupid questions. Some more serious engagement inside and between ideologies would be more interesting.

Pro-gay means supporting their basic human rights in society, opposing barbaric things like gay conversion camps for youth, and generally combating rampant homophobia in society.

The vast majority of leftists throughout history have been pro-gay.

so is that a yes to everything then? if so, that means you want threads devoted to liberal views, which is obviously going to cause problems on a leftist board

i won't respond to your specific questions because that would derail the thread, which is about the board and not those issues

user the only people who are at risk of being commodified here are traps. And we have a fuckload of traps who also lust on traps.
You dunderhead.
Case closed.
I think Europe might be done with minor migration, Germany has a population crisis and the ME is lighting up for decades now, environmental disasters will start to be a thing. We have to criticise liberals for their hot takes on this and put the blame for it at their feet, we can't hide away from them shouting at us by them deliberately conflating immigration and immigrants.
Oh okay that's fair enough.

1) Anti-Communist position of BO is annoying.

2) Liberal shills are also annoying.
In my opinion, they should be getting public bans so as to get the hint. Because of their constant shifting of everything to the Right, board is predominantly Centrist, rather than actually Left (and I'm being very generous with the word "Left" here).

3) Blatant Revisionism should be bannable.
Apparently, someone thinks Marxism is post-modernist and openly lying about Marxism is a "discussion", rather than an obvious cointerpro.

where are the threads opposed to this? i'm here every day and i don't see fagbashing threads or people advocating public executions for gays

you are complaining about a problem that doesn't exist

I think the biggest problem are liberals who use anarchist flags for cover.

The fact you see treating people as "nobody in particular" in spite of any even obvious differences to yourself as idpol, is a good example of why you're wrong.

So, you're arguing in favour of white supremacy, against being "pro-gay", and for the concept of oppression itself, and sincerely think you can hide your right wing leanings still?

If a tree falls in the woods does it make a sound? We may not be negatively effecting any present women, but we are negatively effecting our own minds, /r9k/ culture is a mental cancer that grows and grows.

There's a search function I named the thread.

I mean. Okay.

They don't make their own threads usually. They post in other threads.

I think the biggest problem are half reformed Holla Forumsacks who with their hypocrisy and right wing spooky nonsense drove a lot of the best anarchist posters to other chans.

i'm sick of arguing. you're a liberal, your talking points are slate/huffpo-tier liberalism, and it's not welcome. you can yell and cry about Holla Forums but it won't disguise what you're actually talking about

post it if you wish. but don't get mad when i and others show our disapproval

I'm just going to link our posts here
So everyone can read them
And see exactly why I was right way up in the start of this thread, where I called out right wing idpol.

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I mean, if you consider it a bad thing to be against white supremacy I guess you could say I'm wrong but maybe read the posts namefag.

They do. Because they used to post on Holla Forums.

The quality of this board ?

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What does onanist mean?

it's what you are when you touch yourself at night

I mean he pretty clearly said it was bad to be against white supremacy. That does make it reasonable to assume he, and the people defending him are at least sympathetic to white supremacy.

I take this post back. After looking at the ban list and reasons, mods are becoming even more retarded. Howard, while being a technocrat, has been part of this board for years, and some people have been banned for "transphobia".

When the fuck did this become a bannable offense you fucking faggot mods? Reddit has truly infiltrated this place.

i got a 9 week ban for calling someone a liberal. something is happening to the board

idpol should be a bannable offense, go full post-left.

When will the BO show their fucking face? I am starting to absolutely fucking hate them for their cowardice and hubris. Pass the board to Batko at least if Xer's going to hide in a safety room for the rest of time.

Why in the world would they?

There will be just another shism if people like OP get their way because the anti-identarian left is here to stay.

Body Odor here, here's my face.

That is, show their face as in stop hiding and not making a post since you made a complete fool of yourself based off advice from equally out of touch mods.

But why the fuck would you want to avoid making a fool of yourself, by posting your face on a chan? That's stupid.

How retarded and new are you? The BO made a complete fool of themselves and hasn't made a post since.

You're just being obtuse and not actually this retarded, right?

No surprise.

Honest mistake. I'm drinking.
The only problem I have with handing the board off is everybody else is worse than nothing.

this

Since the very first post I've been complaining about idpol. Right wing idpol. And a few of you have been rushing to defend it.
I was banned on /anarcho/ before n1x took the board, I argued with yui, I saw mukes first few videos. Eat a dick and read these two posts.

You are the only person to quote
You should be banned under the requested taking the bait rule.

That "transphobia" user is now unbanned, howard, however, was shitposting uncontrollably and I support BO's decision to ban them.

wew

Anything to defend your idpol without thinking or reading though I guess.

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Just going to say, transphobia is idpol.

i am . it wasn't bait; i genuinely wanted to know if he wanted liberal idpol talking points to have a place on this board, and he said yes. that's all i needed to know so i stopped replying after that

You said being pro-gay, deeply triggering and problematic supremacy, and anti-oppression, just, the whole fucking concept of oppression, is just a bunch of liberal talking points.
How obvious could it be that you are the clear identitarian here hiding your idpol by calling it anti-idpol.
But you can't defend white supremacy and be anti-idpol. You can't be anti-gay and be anti-idpol.

white supremacy

You're both fucking faggots. You're the worst in humanity. You're petty, obsessive children, it wouldn't surprise me if you're both autistic and the only escape you can find from your shit lives is driving the internet into the ground. Before you faggots learned to use a keyboard the internet was a vastly superior place, now, it's just as bad if not worse than the outside world. In an ideal world, you'd kill yourselves, but unfortunately the comfort of late capitalism always gives defectives like yourselves a reason to push through.

oh right, now I remember. anti-cracker supremacy rather.

one day we will be free of these men, inshallah

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I promise you friend, the idealistic society right winger idpolers imagine is impossible, you will never have it.

I'm a redditor and this is the only chan thing I will ever post on

liberals like you have co-opted 'oppression' and rendered it meaningless. it's a label weak, self-obsessed, self-pitying people apply to themselves, like a fashion statement

anyway, you are an obvious newfag and i don't feel like arguing with you. like i said before, feel free to spew your liberal nonsense, but don't get mad when people react. have fun

You should seriously fuck off back to reddit.

Ban shitposts, that's all I want.

here

Oppression is not meaningless. The fact that annoying uneducated people exist does not give the defense of, and you brought it up, white supremacy, and homophobia. It's not liberalism to attack white supremacy and homophobia. It's right wing identity politics to defend white supremacy and homophobia.

Meant to add validation at the end there. Like I said I've been drinking.

Fuck off with your identity politics either way.

Autistic cunt.

you are aware that this board is called leftist politically incorrect, yes? that means you will be exposed to things you probably consider offensive, such as racism and sexism and other "problemätic" concepts that aren't permitted on other sites. why do you want to turn this place into everywhere else? if you want politically correct discussion, you should go to a politically correct site

if politically incorrect language is to be banned here, then logically the board should drop the 'pol' from Holla Forums

They fucking argued against being against white supremacy.

Read the FAQ, politically incorrect doesn't mean white supremacy and homophobia.
Why do you want to turn this place into Holla Forums?

you're just a triggered, whining liberal. it's just so boring. hopefully someone else will tell you to fuck off, if i get banned for daring to criticise interlopers trying to subvert the board

fuck you and fuck liberals and all your pathetic, obnoxious, nauseating, wimpy delusions. you are not welcome

That's the opposite of what I said kek.
You've gone so far just to defend white supremacy, how are you not the obvious infiltrator?

It was good before the april 1st hack, as in people engaged in pretty much what the name suggests.

then really bad for a few weeks, as in literal nazis 'whell in my opinion Mussolini wasn't such a bad guy??? and nationalism is errrr…………mmmmmmmmmmmpretty good :^)' threads weren't being banned.

No platforms for fascists, it's not an ideology, there's no debate.

Now the board is picking back up. Though, idk. I really like the current of the cybernetics thread and the empirical marxism thread. I wish that were taken up as a board current.

Sucks you gotta have 5,000 people who don't understand what a spook is and feel the need to make a thread about it every day. It is what it is, this is one of the better Discussion Boards Online (tm) hopefully something great comes out of it. Appreciate you all.

low effort posting should be discouraged
no one-liners
in threads it's ok, but when the OP is shit the thread is likely to be shit

Listen to this poster. Memes are the death of constructive discourse.

They're worse than that, they're a form of thought-terminating shorthand. They are intended to communicate concepts/arguments quickly, but in doing so they stop their users from fully considering their point before posting it - diminishing critical thinking and enforcing groupthink. The endless bleating about who's going to get gulag'd is a good example of this phenomenon - it starts as a joke but in practice is used in place of thought-out political argument.

The types of posts/subjects this poster rightly criticises are emblematic of this problem. Nowhere on the board is the post-to-meme ratio lower than in the 'anti-idpol' (really just thinly veiled right-wing idpol) threads. Nazbols are perhaps the highest expression of this phenomenon. We seem to give posters practically indistinguishable from fully-fledged nazis free reign as long as they can claim to be 'nazbol memeing'.

I honestly don't know why people like the two of you bother namefagging, I've never seen a single good post out of either of you. What do you think is so good about your posts that you feel the need to brand them?

Peebles, I know you've heard this a million times before, but go the fuck back to reddit. To keep you is no benefit, to be rid of you is no loss.

Putting 'onanist' in your name just seems like a tacit admission that you post like a wanker and are attempting to pre-emptively roll with the punches like a nerd who instinctively flinches whenever a jock passes by.

Give it up dude, there is a very large contingent of posters on this board who are just Holla Forumsacks who jerk off over Stalin instead of Hitler.

Stop to consider where you are: an anonymous imageboard. Memes are going to be part and parcel of this place. There are various other leftist forums where serious discussion is the norm. Here, we can have both–serious and funposting. Laying down the law like you're a fucking r/soc mod and saying "no fun allowed" isn't appreciated.
But you're right about everything else.

OP, I'd say there's a line when bitching about idpol becomes even more annoying than idpol itself, and Holla Forums is approaching that line. Sage/hide threads posts that bother you or argue in good faith against something. Starting all new threads to whine about something is just adding shit to the heap.

Tripfags should be banned at the mods' discretion, it's the price of fame.

Also I imagine the guy banned for transphobia probably was being retarded and the mods simply wrote the ban message for luls.

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My only real criticism of moderation is how often they delete posts.
Deleting threads and banning people is legit and should be done more often but deleting Holla Forumsyps' sperging and regular arguments sucks, most of all when the thread is about Holla Forums or Holla Forums's subjects of discusson and not some derailment. Having entire topics reduced to green numbers is disappointing as fuck.
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Please tell me where they are, I would abandon you retarded motherfuckers in a heartbeat if there was somewhere else to go.

Not him, but bunkerchan may have decent posts. Also I've heard 2ch.hk has decent discussion as well, and they are primarily European politics so it's probable they aren't concerned with cancerous bullshit as this board is.

Bunkerchan's slow as shit and I don't speak Russian.

I really don't know what else to tell you, the discussion here was really far better in the past. Reddit is out of the question. I learn Russian with one of the side objective of being able to use russian chans.

There are also forums like revleft but it's highly probable that it's just a slightly more tolerable version of reddit.

Yeah, don't even start. The layout is unreadable, and the only discussions happening with any speed are socdems and the most retarded section of tankiedom.

Aside from being painfully slow, its moderation embodies all of the worst, most dogmatic tendencies of modern Marxism.

It pains me to think that a place where 'wahh i can't get laid give me women to fuck' and 'let's kill the rapefugees stop immigration' threads move at lightning speed somehow still manages to be the best left-wing discussion space on the internet. I hate you cunts so much, but there simply isn't anywhere else to go.

> you are aware that this board is called leftist politically incorrect, yes?
Judging by both Holla Forums and /polk/, "politically incorrect" is an euphemism for something else.

Let's not pretend it means "freedom of speech", since aforementioned Holla Forums and /polk/ pretty swiftly remove anything resembling actual discussions. Anything but strict adherence to Stone Age Liberalism is not permissible. Even Hitler is too Left-wing for them.

Moderation is inherently anti communist, you cannot be a communist, banning people upholds propertarian ideology

You're obviously a liberal but unfortunately the people responding to you are even worse and can't coherently argue without being retarded. Basically, you're not understanding exactly what idpol is and conflating opposition to it to opposition to the things it is based upon. When people bitch about feminism, queer politics, minorities politics, etc., they're not bitching about equal rights for or hating on all these different groups, they're bitching about the divisive viewpoints and behaviors behind the idpol, and usually chauvinist and bigoted viewpoints of the "oppressed" (Who might actually be muh privileged) against the "oppressors" (who probably had nothing to do with any oppression and are just as oppressed as any other prole). Anyone actually bitching about women, minorities, or gays are rightfully told to fuck off and I've never seen any non-Holla Forumsack unironically advocate for white supremacy.

No, I'm saying there are people who pretend to be saying something against idpol but are lying or stupid and instead are just spouting right wing idpol and calling it something else.
First post I made was talking about exactly that.

Either you're conflating particularly negative opposition to idpol with believing in rightist idpol, you're taking Holla Forums shitposts as indicative of the Leftists here, or you're simply delusional and imagining it. I have never seen actual blatant sexism, racism, or homophobia accepted here or said by an actual Leftist.

I feel as though people complaining about board quality haven't been here to witness the cycles of the board enough. It has always gone in a cycle of "HEY GUYS I HATE NIGG- I MEAN, LUMPENPROLES SO MUCH! They steal all the women will socialism give me a gf???", and then people posting in reaction to them become the next biggest shitposters when they leave or lose traction. Occasionally tripfags come in and fulfill the role of being huge faggots.

It has been this way for as long as I can remember. The only time i can think where it was not, was when it had under 80 members and was full of anarchists fighting with /marx/ and begging them to be banned from the board.

triggered faggots need to go back

I love the smell of Holla Forums in the morning, all the tears and buttrage.

Well thank you.

I'm personally very concerned with the moderation of the board.
I think it is very clear that a number of r/socialism types have infiltrated the mod clique.

I have maintained for years at this point that the only reliable candidate for BO is Space_.
Regardless of what one thinks of bunkerchan, he has consistently shown himself to be aligned to the interests and meta-ideology/values of this board and is willing to work in its best interests.

The last thing I want is this place to start banning people for shitty id-pol reasons.
In fact I believe that the recent surge in threads/posts promoting id-pol may be linked to recent actions by the mod team.
At this point I consider Space_ and a subsequent complete cleaning of house to be the best hope for getting this board back on track.

This is really the only populated place on the net for non-id-pol leftist/anti-capitalist discussion.
I would not like to see its light snuffed out by some metastasized reddit cancer.

The gorilla question MUST be addressed we have suffered long enough from this oppression and humiliation.

Sounds to me that this is a personal problem of you taking Holla Forums posts seriously & not being able to distinguish from them or defend your own view in response.

You're speaking like a politician. You're the only one who talks about Space_. You are the only one who knows who Space_ is.

You are Space_

I've been on this board since January 2015. This is incredibly true and I've noticed this myself. Not everyone has the energy to post high-quality, well-thought-out threads every day, or even every week. That doesn't make this a bad board.

I don't know that you mean by this.

I'm simply very concerned by the recent explosion in both id-pol threads/posts and bans for id-pol reasons, I'm evidently not the only one.
As such I made a post in a relevant thread presenting those concerns.

I fail to see how I was 'speaking like a politician'.

I think all of the drama around the migration thread(s) did show that quite a large amount of people did know who Space_ was, if only as the central figure behind Bunkerchan.

Now that is just factually wrong.
If only for the fact that Space_ is from the north of England and I happen to be from Australia.
Anyone that has spend even a small amount of time on the IRC or Mumble would be able to verify us being different people.

He is just the only person associated with this board that happens to have my full support.

Let me correct myself. You're speaking like a fascist. I'm removing my vol trip, because I don't speak for the mod team in this interaction, only as a board user.

So presenting my concerns with the current regime and nominating a person that I believe will address those concerns is 'speaking like a fascist'?

How exactly do you believe democracy works, friend?
Is your vision of Socialism one in which the members of society cannot criticize the actions of the leadership?

Or are you instead insinuating that due to my concern being with id-pol, that is what makes me sound like a 'fascist'?

I am responsible for the transphobia ban. This does not mean I am responsible for every bad ban that's been handed out recently. LIke wasn't me.

I know this is going to get me a lot of (you)s, but:
I've recently accepted myself for who I am as a transgender person

This has undeniably affected my moderating style and I own up to this. I apologize for stirring the pot, but I fear I may not be able
to refrain from moderating in a way that goes against my conscience. I am open to criticism and willing to change my moderating
behavior according to what is best for the board. If the users of this board should feel deeply enough that I should no longer retain
my board volunteer status, and should che feel that I should step down, then I will graciously comply. I am refraining from acting as
a moderator until some concensus should be reached.

I do not now have, nor have I ever had, a reddit account. I first started browsing Holla Forums in the early months of 2015 after
spending several years on 4/pol/. I left when I saw moot slowly abandoning the site. I became a volunteer on Holla Forums in October
2016.

I need to emphasize my continued committment to the class struggle. The class struggle is always the primary battle we must fight.
Everything else is tertiary to this. What all those oppressed have in common is economic exploitation. We are all oppressed by
Capital, and this is what brings us together. But I do not believe that this means we should abandon those who are oppressed in ways
that are outside the economic sphere.

The debate over identity politics has dragged on and remained central to the identity of Holla Forums. Over time, the status quo on
Holla Forums has taken on the likeness of fence-sitting. All criticisms of the identity politics which support the established
neoliberal order are correct and valid. We must not become reactionaries and begin to thnk that this means that we should not support
those who exist differently and face violence and discrimination for it. I hope this isn't a hard nuance for the average Holla Forums
user to grasp.

Racism, sexism, homophobia, and transphobia are all right-wing identity politics and are not becoming of a socialist. Refusing to
call these things for what they are is reactionary. I'm not asking to be prioritized. I'm asking to be recognized and included in the
class struggle without being labelled as a proponent of identity politics. We all have the same enemy, and that is porky.

It makes as much sense to be a racist socialist as it does to be a transphobic soicalist.

Then you should not be moderating at all.

This alone means that you should not be a mod.
Everything else in your post in immaterial compared to that admission.

Worst yet.
You have damaged the positions of other trans members of the mod team.
As now their actions may have to be examined to ensure that they have not been making similar such mistakes in regards to their "conscience".

This is quite the fuck-up, fam.

fug

me

IDpol is cancer to the left.
Good for you though. It's a struggle, I wish you well.

Disagree as long as they don't act on their anger. If this particular mod sees something they find personally objectionable but do not roll out the ban hammer based on emotion alone, I personally have no problem with them being a mod.

What's the alternative, only straight white guys can be mods? I'm not even trying to be like that, but seriously what is the alternative?

Well I can think of a number of solutions.

The most pressing (and I think the most agreeable) is a formal, codified series of rules that both posters and mods would be expected to abide by.
Maybe even set ban lengths depending on the infraction.

I think most people would also appreciate mods having to justify the action taken after each act of moderation (discounting bans/bump-locks/deletion to clean up spam or Holla Forums bait obviously) in the feedback thread.

A lack of transparency from the mod team as a whole and a lack of accountability amongst individual mods is breeding distrust and suspicion.

The board having a greater say in who gets on the moderation team and knowledge of who/how many are on it currently would also be appreciated I suspect.

As always.
I maintain that the current BO being replaced by someone like Space would also be a positive action.

ban all trips forever

no other problems exist.

I've said this for as long as I remember being here. This board needs a set of rules for mods to follow. BO should really be replaced he is too much of a lazy fuck.

Also double post and I'm sorry
In regard to this I have to agree with ancom poster in this thread that a lot of the posters here, in their rejection of liberal/bourgeois idpol have become reactionaries

obviously shit like bourgeois feminism is bad but how is class-based politics also not identity politics? class is after all, an identity. I am inclined to agree with any serious poster here that class struggle is chief among all struggles but the complete rejection of other struggles seems nothing short of reactionary to me. I'm not saying ban people for their thoughts but ffs. Shit gets childish at times. Supporting gay people or trans people or whatever isn't automatically liberal, just as much as being progun isn't automatically conservative/Republican.

fuck off you retard
People form identities around class, but that doesn't change their ACTUAL class. Do you know how many retards in America identify as "Middle Class" in spite of being poor OR rich as fuck? It's irrelevant! Either they're workers or they're porkies. Period.

class is a material reality that you cannot escape.

I think that's agreeable. Perhaps if an actual reason for bans being posted on the banned post might help. Deleted posts suck because you can't see wtf they posted. That's reddit tier shit too IMO

I agree about clear sets of rules, but even still in conversation there's always gray area. Is that bannable? Is it acceptible? What happens in such situations? Rules/outlines only go so far.

I agree.
That is why I think mods should have to justify their actions in a feedback/actions thread.

Honestly when you bumplock their thread and let posters work out the internet's constant desire to engage in completely futile arguments that's better than deleting their thread and having the Holla Forumsyp ban evade and post a dozen more threads talking about the Holla Forums save space.

Then you're going to be a pretty bad mod.
It's not your job as mod though, I understand your sensitivity about hearing those, but those ban reasons are not how you should exercise your power, because it opens the potentially dangerous door towards cancerous things like language policing and self-censorship as if anybody truly cared about people here calling each other niggertrannyfaggots.
Call me naive or retarded, I still have enough trust in this community to believe that we will never go into "faggotry is bourgeois fun" field. As for Holla Forumslacks saying that? They've been arguing that kikes are behind everything since forever and I don't think anybody has ever changed their minds, it's the job of the braindead bait-loving Holla Forumslacks to prove that such opinions are idiotic and not mods' to ban it as if it was some sacred taboo or people here needed their feefees to be protected.

Stop abusing your mod status to enforce a consensus in your favor you pathetic faggot.
Once again the liberal trash has wormed its way into power to explain to us all how to think.
The only thing decisively leftist is the economic policy and the rest is entirely debatable.

seems reasonable man

If I'm being honest though, somewhat unrelated but I haven't noticed like half the shit people are complaining about. I guess I haven't been as active as I used to be. But shit doesn't seem that different than I remember it a year ago.

I do notice deleted posts but have never been on the receiving end of one. I also don't post like an asshole, so there's that.

Can you escape being black, and the bullshit associated with that? Even rich black guys still gotta put up with racists and shit.

How is that different from any other identity? Ethnicity is a great example. What you identitfy as don't change your actual fucking identity.

Also calm down son, I'm not saying let's all become fucking liberals. Just don't get the militant rejection of such concepts. 2edgy4me

Nope, Marx BTFO your stupid ass two hundred years ago.

fucking truth

No, because class is a material condition and relation in society, something that is objectively determined without constructed ideology. On the other hand, race is an entirely subjective concept built around a few meaningless objective aspects such as skin color.

I entirely agree, nevertheless it begets material conditions for those people. Blacks have higher poverty rates in the US, for example:
kff.org/other/state-indicator/poverty-rate-by-raceethnicity/?currentTimeframe=0&sortModel={"colId":"Location","sort":"asc"}

Regardless of whether or not its subject/warranted/whatever, it exists.

I agree with you. But being class is not an identity. Racism has material force as well.

You sound like an astroturfing redditor who hasn't lurked here much at all. You accuse this place of 'deflecting' non-class issues but people consistently address these and mention tactics and organizations that were non-white and are considered highly favorable to the kind of race baiting we have now.

Even worse, I'm tired of people shoving identity politics as a wedge issue, like, somehow, it just *has* to be considered by every sphere on the left. I'm not going to make space for it, and yes, I do think it's a waste of time. I don't think discussions about actual racism and how it is connected to our material reality is a waste of time, no, but too often, users like you come along trying to equate being called a bad word with physical repression. This has gone too far and I came to this board to escape this crap. If you want that, seriously, just go back to reddit. They have loads of it – why you stay here is beyond me, if this place isn't 'intersectional' or 'identity' focused, you have the freedom to leave, so please do.

Truth be told I agree with the other posters on this board that any of these identities are more or less spooks. Just playing devil's advocate here. I mean I do support gay rights, can't stand the religious zeal that results in their persecution. But at the same time I don't think supporting gay people is automatically liberal either, that's all I'm getting at. Replace gay here with any "identity"

Stop with the b8 k thx

Why don't you explain to me Marx's views on homosexuals?
Explain to me where he says I need to give two shits about them.

i think the only 'radical' position anymore is to want to abolish race entirely. that is, to want to work toward a society where we no longer think in terms of 'black' and 'white'.

i think for all the huffing and puffing the left has done over the last 5 decades over race, gender, etc., they've only reinforced every single one of these categories.

and, sure, maybe some people like bieng 'black' or 'white'. personally, i want us all to start seeing us as humans and not having to go 'oh haha that persons black can't live in a neighborhood w/ them haha' ..

for all the claims of 'smashing white supremacy' and whatnot, its all just hot air. they aren't abolishing the concept of race imo. all of the rhetoric is built around reinforcing that oppression and just wearing it on your sleeve, everywhere you go. and of course, for anyone that takes the bait, you're emotionally blackmailed for not sharing their skin color for all of eternity.

Damn, it just occurred to me r/Socialism would blow a gasket if they saw this thread.

I'll def. think that the 'will communism give me X' threads are pure cancer. The trap shit is pure idpol attention whoring shit.

For all your bitching about Holla Forums you sure do a bang-up job of looking like their mirror image.

now that I've heard your views more, I entirely agree with you.

I mean I've gotten into serious arguments with SJWs and shit over this topic, how they reinforce race realism. I've even heard them say racist shit and deny they can even be racist because they are a "minority". Seen them advocate for what is essentially a reciprocal alt-right minority ethnostate. I totally agree such politics are literal cancer.

gtfo then, as others said, everything else is immaterial to this. just because you're trans now doesn't mean the rules change. that is seriously some weak ass shit of an excuse

Been here since before yui and muke were posting, and you're going around turning around what I said, outright lying if you were paying attention, and getting overly defensive of identity politics if you were paying attention, because since my very first post what I've been complaining about is identity politics. If does not make me a liberal to be against your identity politics and this boards obsession with non-class extremely specific identity related issues about white dudes with mental disorders.

We still have no real rules you stupid nignog. It's a problem actually.

Yeah, and often people accuse you of being a closet racist or a 'white liberal' for having this view, but i think they misunderstand the point entirely and are pursuing their own attention whoring agenda.

I think, as a white person, its exhausting as fuck to have this discussion over, and over, and over again, like white people enjoy having to discuss 'race' all the time and having our only major engagements with black people be through a racialized lens. It's fucked up and I have noticed that liberals, idpolers, and the 'intersecitonal' crowd totally gets off to it.

I find it alienating as hell, because of the way it reinforces an 'us v. them' mentality, and its why i've never embraced idpol or intersectionalism, even when i was most prone to embracing it.

I'm happy i found this place bc it really got me out of that funk where i was inventing oppression and offense where there was none. I wasn't looking at people as individuals with their own strengths and weaknesses, i was positively discriminating them according to whether they were black, white, etc.

This itself, the process of discriminating is exhausting as all hell, no matter whether its 'positive' or 'negative.' and I think no matter you're skin color its something we all relate to.

I can't imagine its easy to be black and walk around all day seeing white people as devils that consistently fuck your life up. Having that kind of a warped view must be a lot of negative energy and hate to harbor, even if you do think your lived experiences justify those views.

On both sides, I just want the divisions to end, period. I have yet to see idpollers or the intersectional crowd present a truly unifying message. The most 'radical' intersectionalists always seem to be the farthest away from a class analysis, and the same goes for the idpol crowd.

And yeah, I totally agree with you mate. i typed this up REALLY shitty, so i apoloize if its confusing to read, but i'm just tired of fighting and arguing with people and having your opponents make shit up and insinuate things you never even said. It's exhuasting and counterproductive..

rules schmoolz, you know what i'm talking about – the point i was making was that banning people the way >trans is implying is just going to make this place objectively shittier and turn us into reddit.

and thats great, claim you were here in 1944 for all i fucking care. you still sound like someone who should have left htis place for reddit. seriously, they talk about this kind of shit ALL the time and over obsess in finding ways to avoid class and channel things to identity… so, seriously, just go there.

I… don't… think… I'll… be… doing… that — because frankly you're a fucking fool and you need people like me to stop leaving for anarchist chans, because idpol isn't just liberals, it's people like you too.

holy shit you are retarded dude. stop making shit up, i want to talk class… class isn't just another identity, and lmao @ 'i wont leave' no, this board is better off if people like you leave.

anarchists are always bitching out about stuff like this on reddit, you will be in great company there

You don't want to talk about class, since my concern is this board is drifting away from proper theory into right-wing identity politics related circlejerking and you think I should leave. I mean, it's fairly obvious what you really would want then isn't it?

Proper theory is good, yes, but i'm not convinced you are trying to combat anything you claim to based on your comments in this thread. It just seems like baiting and concern trolling.

I abhor right wing idpol and have spoken out about it in numerous other threads, but it seems to me there's people always trying to change the dialogue so that talking class is associated with 'right wing idpol'.

I think there's a contingent of people here who are Holla Forums astroturfers and perhaps you're just too dumb to notice who is Holla Forums and who isn't and sage those threads accordingly. It just doesn't make sense to me what you're bitching about beyond that. Maybe you should just stop taking bait threads literally? Idk. I'm done arguing because you're making shit up, putting words into my mouth and claiming "clearly you believe X" and I consistently deny it… its exhausting and it seems very remniscent of shit that is all over the reddit pseudo-left right now, that's why I said you should go there, because you'd find tons of people willing to engage with you on your faux-concern.

If shifting the discussion toward anti-capitalist ends means I'm 'right wing' then yes, you are a liberal dude. Sorry that busts your nuts so bad.

An anarchist complaining about not enough rules

He tried to warn you about those moderators bro, why didn't any of you listen?

First thing I fucking posted is this.
And it has been my core point ever since.
You may have spoken out against idpol in another threads, but you've rushed to its defense in this thread, maybe you weren't paying enough attention because it's a long thread.
People are always trying to change the discussion so that being directly homophobic, transphobic, racist, whatever the fuck else, is allowed to just kinda slide through under the radar.
My problem is that most of this board is too stupid to notice when Holla Forums ideology enters or has never left their own minds, this has been a long standing problem on Holla Forums I'm not sure if you remember the
threads that were constantly spammed before and had, for some fucking reason, real discussion in them, polite discussion.
Here are more things I've already said.

What are the tankies teaching you?

I'm glad that actually gets filtered now holy shit.
Actually reactionary = s0cially conservative

Nah you are clear as day man. Its all good.

Totally agree its alienating too man. Like my gf, she's not a lefty per say (i'm trying) but she's definitely open to leftism. But after fighting with SJWs she was distraught as shit because she's a good chick but white and walked away from an argument feeling like these people think she's the literal devil. Had to spend an entire week reinforcing the fact that these SJWs preach a perverted version of Leftist philosophy. Helps to know we are prole af, live in poverty in the inner city. Having rich minorities tell you are the devil and the cause of all the worlds problems really is divisive.

no rulers =/= no rules

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1890/letters/90_09_21.htm

Not Marx but close. Selling Marx as someone who believed in economism is wrong, and various Marxist authors have clarified this.

Also, who is demanding that you "give a shit" about homosexuals? Ignoring struggle doesn't make it go away, you're a fool to think that struggles against unfair treatment originate in capitalism and the class system, and that they will be magically abolished under Communism.

Seriously, where are these mythical 'anarchist chans' that aren't constantly slipping into right-wing identity politics? The constant threadshitting presence of idiot robots, Holla Forumsacks and their nazbol collaborators pushes real discussion to the absolute periphery here.

Please, I just want to go somewhere with good discussions that isn't soaked in this terminally fucking stupid 'imageboard culture'. I hate this place, and I hate that it seems to be the last bastion of a Left that remembers who Marx is.

Come on, you know you love us ;)

There's n1x's

n1x bans you if you say anything negative about trannies. Anyways Holla Forums either needs clear rules for what will get you banned or for the hotpockets to chill the fuck out. The technofaggot is cancer but he should be laughed at or filtered, not banned.

n1x is an autistic spazlord and I'm glad he's gone

What chan does n1x operate?

This is probably as far as internet communities with more than 10 people go. At some point one has to accept that the path towards the quality theoretical discussion can has less and less people to the point of theoretical exchanges becoming tl;dr essays between university professors.
Alternatively you might try to spam whatever person on Holla Forums so hard people will start reading it on their own(think Stirner or Bordiga) then some pissed off nerds not liking them will pop out sooner and later and you will have your chance to argue.

he has the /anarcho/ board I think

you're the kind of person i'd have a beer with user. cheers.

0ch
here's the marxism thread
0ch.org/0040/res/3453.html

polite sage for off topic

You're the most retarded motherfuckers on the internet aside from everyone else on the internet, that is

Thanks, I find a lot of anarchists insufferable (there are a lot of lifestylists, idealists, moralists, and middle class types infecting it) but 0ch looks like it's worth a browse.

I should be alright then, I never express an opinion about transgendered people one way or the other because I'm a fucking Marxist who comes here to discuss Marxism.

Aside from a mundane political point about the capitalist system enforcing the gender binary in order to ideologically bolster the privatisation of domestic labour I have never and will never feel the need to comment on that subject.

In conclusion, nazbol delenda est.

He clearly echos my own sentiment:

Reread my original post. I am not the one calling to ban homosexuals from the discussion to begin with.
It's the homosexuals in the moderators seat who are looking to exclude those critical of their views.
The question remains however if the homosexual struggle is even relevant, and I think it just gets in the way.

And personally I could give less of a shit even if their problems aren't abolished under Communism.
Comparing their modern day frustrations to the horrors of slavery and racial persecution is a slap in the face too.

As soon as they have rules set in stone you will never be able to overturn them.
And I can guarantee you they will be something along the lines of typical reddit shlock.

Being a tranny is not an excuse for shit moderation. Your personal identity should not have such an effect on your moderation style. I don't mean this as in it won't affect the way you think and feel, I mean you should, as an adult, have the self control and mindset to detach yourself from the situation and let someone else deal with it, as you know you will not be able to do so in an unbiased way.

I've known two, one for five years, going on six years, and one for seven years. Whenever I've run a project, forum, server or anything requiring someone to watch over it while I'm gone, I've relied on them. There have been, on numerous occasions, things that have personally offended them. One has enough self control to usually think calmly (they have freakish levels of self control, so I don't really expect this from anyone) and act in accord to the rules, the other decides not to act on things that have clearly put them in the wrong state of mind for moderation.

The board owner said something regarding a situation similar to this ages ago, during a question thread about the moderation. There was something said along the lines of the hardest part of moderation is seeing something that pisses you off and not knowing if it should be removed or stay, because you're mad at it. I think if you can't remove yourself from the situation until you're in the right mindset and you also can't keep quiet and wait for another mod with less personal investment in it to deal with it, you should not be a mod, period.

n1x sucks so hard, makes sense you'd shill for him.

Kill yourself for even saying this. That has nothing to do with it. They're talking about their personal feelings on the matters, not their sex or race, you mongoloid. It doesn't matter what sex or race they are.

Bring yourself back to life & merck yourself again. I just woke up & don't have the energy to explain why this is so retarded. Fucking lurk more if you feel this way. Do so before ever posting again.

Apparently it keeps glitching when I try to post this with pic, maybe I'll post it separately

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hey n1x
how are you doing?

Look, mods definitely shouldn't all be cis het white males. But any of them should, when happening upon something that gets at them in a personal way, step back and let others handle it, or self-consciously act in a restrained fashion. There shouldn't be any shame in admitting to yourself, "I can't do this right now", and stepping back.

Couldn't be more wrong, this is marxism 101. Class is a ROLE, not an identity. Being a worker is not an identity, it is a role you preform when you (have to) sell your labour to a capitalist. If you work a day job and own dividend paying stocks, you are both a worker and a bourg, because of those two roles you are so preforming.

Not to mention that very few workers are clamoring for others to affirm their identities, as is so often the goal of idpol. You're affirmed as a worker every time your alarm clock wakes you up in the morning so you won't be late, whenever you have to smile and nod to your boss even if he is a cunt, and so on. Class, unlike identity, should be abolished, not affirmed.

I feel this is a fair post and the volunteer is at least open to the possibility that they might be a little unfair.

That alone makes me trust them more than some leddit mod who says 'fuck you i will ban everyone cause i'm right"

Are bans here permanent, cause I think a compromise would be to make bans temporary, especially when it's clearly a comrade shitpositng etc

Thank you so much for taking those for me, user. It's too damn early for me, lmao.

Afaik bans range from 30 mins to permaban, based on the grounds of why you're being banned.
Personally I've only been banned twice within the years I've posted here. One for 30 mins for posting unspoilered porn, which was totally fair. The other was just a mistake. I was doing a test post to check the glitching I was experiencing like today when I try to post pics so they thought I was a bot. I appealed it & explained, so it was immediately lifted.

polite sage for again off topic and also replying to myself

OK so I just finished reading 0ch and holy fuck I almost want to apologise to Holla Forums now that I've seen how much worse things can be.

Despite admirably avoiding the right-wing idpol that /leftpol/ is infected with, they manage to replace it with all the worst, most masturbatory, incoherent, and useless strains of anarchist thought.

Holla Forums is shit because basically every third post is some dumbass driveby one-line thought terminating cliche of a shitpost. I didn't think a political board could function with a lower signal-to noise ratio, but I was proved wrong with 0ch - I could find practically no posts of any real substance. I criticise my fellow Marxists for their dogmatism - I doubt I will do so in future, now that I've seen how much worse the anarchists do it.

To conclude: 0ch is worthless and we should ban all the nazbols.

so did a lot of us

It shouldn't be.

I hope you stick around. You made a mistake and then apologized. That's nice.

It might be worse it's the same mod who gave a two-three "unironic racism" bans for Holla Forumslacks complaining about melanin-enriched individuals.

You guys need to stop with this. Learn to distinguish genuine leftist posts from Holla Forums posts. LURK. We're not infected with this, we just call it out for being class reductionist because it is mostly used this way. We refuse to become liberal dumpster fires like basically every other mainstream or leftist site has. Some people such as myself feel very strongly about it, so harsh language is often used. We can do that without being banned, like you would be in any other online forum. More raw opinions come here because we're anonymous as well.

You faggots are becoming more annoying than the posters who scream idpol at everything. The more you bitch about it, the more Holla Forums will push that button as well, to sow discontent.

This is due to the imageboard setting & being easily accessible/open to Holla Forums shits who are mainly the culprits of that.

Sorry, this isn't Holla Forums or reddit. Nazbols are mainly satire or ironic posting, as with most flags. Sometimes especially recently after the huge increase in traffic which I sympathize for you on since it used to be much better around here, less shit-posty you'll get the occasional actual nazi, newbie or Holla Forums poster who uses it seriously or in lieu of the nazi flag because they're retarded.

No, it's because the mods honestly just don't give the slightest fuck about post quality.
Unless a post actually offends them in some way, they won't do anything about it.

There's a couple good mods, but yeah, overall it's been going downhill, especially after that hack/forced migration bullshit. Becoming third was a huge mistake.

Personally I believe the mod team has actually been infiltrated. Holla Forums is such an obvious target for government infiltration. If they send undercover agents into small environmental groups they sure as shit are going to try and infiltrate an online community of hundreds of outspoken revolutionary communists.

yeah, no. the difference is those environmental activists actually do things

i agree. nazbol isn't even real. I also don't think every Holla Forumstard should be banned unless they're just egregiously shitposting

if we actually were infiltrated we'd be r/socialism by now

They don't need another /r/socialism. They know that if they turned this place into /r/socialism everyone would just leave and make a new board. They have to keep it just good enough for proper leftists to keep coming here, but shit enough that no organization or serious discussion is possible.

Ever since the r/soc bullshit & forced migration attempt, things have been really touchy. These ups & downs seem to happen every once in a while, then die down. Anything's possible, though.

There's an awful lot of r/soc tier posters here, though, nowadays. I think we should all be vigilant at least. The r/soc posters are really whining a lot & pushing this narrative about us being too anti-idpol lately. As seen in this thread.

I don't think the FBI needs to do much effort to make that happen

Native hostility to IDPOL is the price paid for being comparatively freed from the shackles of the liberal narrative that infects all leftist sites.

Funnily enough Holla Forums has not turned into Holla Forums despite lacking aggressive, language-based moderation. The culture, for want of a better term, can defend itself and drive off invaders of its own volition, with mods only being necessary for the bare minimum of order-keeping and defense against larger threats, like spam.

People who come in here to condescendingly preach the good word about everything BUT class struggle should be met with bayonets, figuratively speaking; they should be distrusted because it hasn't worked! It has instead empowered liberals to truly horrifying levels of smugness and narcissism. There should be no other reason necessary to despise IDPOL, and it goes without saying being against IDPOL is not the same as being racist, sexist, homophobic, etc.

Even when this place is on a downturn that quality is retained, shitposts and quality posts existing in antagonism, giving this board a dynamism others lack, and like a spiral they inevitably tighten – massively shit threads and great threads – before the inevitable disruption of the next great crisis. It's dialectics.

Yes.

You're assuming they aren't the reason this board is in the state it is. Yes, there are ample shitposters just waiting to raid Holla Forums, but with competent moderation it wouldn't be too hard to keep them at bay.

It should raise some eyebrows that /a/ manages to have far fewer Holla Forums and SJW posts than Holla Forums. The /a/ mods just laugh in the face of Holla Forums's attempts at subversion while Holla Forums rolls over and asks for belly rubs.

/a/ is also not a political board

That is blatantly not true. Every thread just descends into arguments about race, gender, sex, and other irrelevant bullshit. Even if you win the argument, the shitposters still win because they got you to talk about that instead of actual leftist topics.

Go read >>>/ameta/. Holla Forums certainly try to shitpost on /a/. They just get banned for doing so.

Holla Forums doesn't really function as a leftist board so much as it serves as the political version of Holla Forums. Neutral territory where shitposters run free.

t. someone who's obviously new to Holla Forums

I'm not new. Actually I've been here since almost the beginning - long enough to see the steady decline in quality this board has suffered. The left might as well be dead on the internet at this point.

Honestly I would like something akin to /marx/, except either a more general board or a few of them for separate ideological circlejerks. Ismail might have autism, but his board is top notch

Mmhmm, you're totally convincing.

It seems we're being "raided" by Holla Forums or another board. Too many shitheads with pitiful false flag attempts popping up in many threads.

we should have more theory threads t b h

The problem is the repetition of threads. People who feel talked out on certain topics may be geniuses at the subject, but they're had the conversation a million times. It's the same with the incredibly basic shit threads like "What do you think about Muslims" - they get shitter and shitter because people who know the topic like the back of their hand slowly start to hide them on site. Generally everyone complaining about idpol here is too dense to hide these threads, which is also why they're the only people still posting in them.

My views are complex.

For example - I'm in debt, was fired once for murky reasons (unemployable accordingly), and I'm close to death. Would anyone like me to take someone or something with me? In my view it would only be kind, but if this is considered crude I can retract the suggestion.

Don't say I need to lurk moar if you don't remember how Holla Forums turned into stormnigger central in the first place, you fuckhead. 'Ironic' and 'memeposting' is fucking cancer. Cut it out.

For something that isn't real it certainly shits up a lot of dicsussions and pollutes the front page quite regularly.

Oh fuck off.

Spoiler: I never really posted on Holla Forums because I'm not a retard. You can't have any legitimate discussion there, ever. I only ever went there for big events if Holla Forums didn't have a thread on the issue. I posted on other random boards before here.
You are really an interesting character.

Not making the case for you to lurk more look any less convincing.

Bumping to keep this thread alive

trans/homophobia is unfortunately the price we pay to remain idpol free.
mods are doing a good job.
Temporary bans (even just an hour) should be handed more often, as a slap on the wrist.
People who shit on good threads, derail conversations or have pointless arguments mid thread. ie. for shitposting too hard.
Also slap on the wrist for posters who reply to obvious troll op or shit post op, especially without saging. (the bumplocking is great, btw)
I'm guilty of both of these, it's hard to resist the urge of not responding back to an idiot. The smarter the idiot, the harder it is.
Maybe we should expand the faq? it'd be nice to ban people who ask questions verbatim as they appear on the faq. it's a nice way to sniff out who hasn't lurked moar.
The board volunteer who apologized was based.

It would be nice to start a bookclub for das kapital or some other book. We'd make a heavily moderated thread (to avoid derailment) discussing the chapters every week. Maybe make it every sunday.

Trans/homophobia is idpol

Why the fuck does the Tor "hidden security feauture" make the site load x100 slower? There's no way I'm using that if it means spending 10 mins looking at loading screens just to make one post

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Lol wtf is going on itt