POLITICAL PSYCHOLOGY

I've noticed that fellow leftcoms are deeply depressed

Only celebrities have poundland versions, it's the cult of late capitalism, you see.

I hate it when some asshole who isn't involved in my daily activities tells me to do something. I also hate homeless people, the rich, and the poor, and I think they shouldn't exist. Obviously I hate rich people far more, but I don't carry cash so please stop asking me for money that I don't have and please stop stinking up the place.
Dignity for all.

I grew up in an upper middle class family with similarly wealthy extended family, and have never had to worry about not being able to pay medical bills, college expenses, etc. When I see my friends, whom I love more than anything, go through poverty and other injustices inflicted by capitalism, I feel both guilt for not having to go through it to the same extent, and more so, resentment of the forces causing it. It also happens to align with my principles, but those are my more emotional and personal motives since you asked. I don't think only one or the other is important, IMO both play a valuable role.

Also anarchism is very good for my personal development, and in my opinion, that of everyone who commits to the discipline it asks for.

Interesting.

I am a victim of capitalism and commodity fetishism so I want to get rid of it so it doesn't happen again.

arrogance is a big one for me. i hate the smugness and arrogance shown by the powerful over the powerless. when they know they're in control and no one can do anything about it. i just want to see their fucking brains blown out

My anarchism mostly comes from a nihilist point of view. I see no value in the rigid systems and ideas that make up the state and capitalism.
The profit motive and the rigidity of the state combine to create absurdities which I believe are to be destroyed. Anything I see no purpose for should be removed, and everything should be assessed for this, nothing should be taken for granted.

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Grew up in a kind of poor family in a third world country, some of my relatives were killed or incarcerated by Pinochet's regime and on top of all that, I feel I've missed out on my youth due to social alienation or perhaps just due to not being into consumerist shit. I guess I've managed to rationalize most of this thanks to the study of Marxist literature and activist praxis, but deep down I still feel I'm driven mostly by some creepy murderous desire against porky for letting this be. Rather that doing a militant work out of "love for the people" or to carry out some kind of hopeful future like many lefties seem to think, I feel like I'm militant because I'd be unironically proud of making porky and their apologists fucking suffer when the revolution comes.

have fun with RWDS

Have fun pissing yourself after getting clocked by a radical liberal.

I went through something like pic related and that was like entering the rabbit hole that i could never go back

I really don't understand how you can be a leftist in this day and age and not be deeply depressed. The world seems so utterly without hope it's like some sort of cruel joke. I think the leftists who avoid depression do it by turning into huge LARPers.

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Radical centrist, kill yourself "classical liberal", you don't lift you're fat, do you expect me to believe that on this site etc etc

this, plus,
I've always hated people who take advantage of their physical power. Like police and chads, since I'm not that big and not that manly and also value my life. We have a very corrupt police force where I'm around, so you better shut the fuck up and lick their boots. Also drunk apes that want to show off their manlyness are common as well. This and the fact that all political entities in my country are extremely bureaucratic and corrupt led me to anarchism (via chomsky).

Also, I come from upper middle/lower upper class and most of my country is poor. I hate that rich and poor believe the poor to be less. I hate that the cultural differences are so big that getting along with poor people is very hard, and I hate myself that my reactionary tendencies get reinforced. I hate that many of my friends are classist, even the few middle class friends that I have. I find it very sad that most of them don't consider themselves rich, when they are easily in the top 1%.

When I was younger, I used to get along very well with the people that worked in my house (I know). Also, since the upper class is small, social circles are smaller and better connected, so your appearance is everything. This plus the fact that Catholicism is the norm made growing up gay very painful. These two factors made me resent the social separation of classes.

Another factor was losing my supernatural beliefs at a young-ish age. I lost all faith on older people who believed in God, which is at least 90% of the population. My somewhat arrogant belief was, "how can they be so wrong on something so blatantly obvious? They can't be trusted as an authority on anything."

My truly turning point for leftist thought was when identity politics became central to everything around my gay friends. Fuck that infuriated me so much. At this point, the only leftist "theory" I knew was watching countless Chomsky videos. I started watching videos against this bullshit idpol movement. I started with Milo, then watched some Ben Shapiro, but a lot of the things they said only went half way and didn't identify the problem correctly. I then turned to the good old Chomsky to see what he thought (nothing special really), but that led me to rediscover the left, through Bookchin's videos on idpol, the sniffing man, anarchopac (who's pro idpol), muke, and the rest is history.

tl;dr:
I like anarchist thought because:
I wish my middle class friends didn't have to choose between paying college and going out with friends
I want more friends but can't because I'm richer than most,
I want to be free as a gay guy,
I wish people were despooked of religion and banal appearances
Idpol is cancer in all spheres of life,
Also, I see poverty and homelessness every day and it is so depressing ;_;

bureacratic neo-liberalism isn't the only thing outside of the left and right you dip shit
mad

I'm just reasonable.

I'm also bitter as fuck.

I was just listing off the various shitposts I would typically make, I decided to really get my balls out so to speak.
This is a typical Holla Forums tactic and if you're not using it I don't understand why you thought the conversation would go any other way.

rationalism > irrationalism
materialism > idealism (nominalism > realism)
universalism > particularism
also I hate waste of both human and non-human resources

I'm an empathetic person and I hate human suffering, while also being pretty bitter and angry because of my own, so I blame the system instead of individuals like most people do.

lmao

logic

t. Egoist

An extreme fear of capitalist alienation and work pushed me towards situationism. Anarchism is its practical application

I'm a communitarian because I want to belong somewhere. I'm tired of feeling so invisible.

Dummy.

This clause dramatically lowers my opinion of you.

Isn't most psychology material based?

I've always been collectivist at heart. I was a right winger most of my political outlook. I like the idea of struggle, unity, comradery. and a great mission. I eventually became a leninist after all these years.

One way I've noticed I differ from most of my peers is in my thoughts on justice. I find most people's conception of justice to be morally revolting. The idea that justice means punishing evildoers, smiting the wicked, and "giving people what they deserve" is fundamentally cruel. It boils down to nothing more than vicarious vengeance, a desire to see people you don't like suffer. When the starting point for your worldview is a hunger for human suffering, nothing good will come of it.
To me, justice means preventing harm. Insofar as punishment can act as a deterrent to harmful behavior, it is acceptable, but this concept that punishment is a moral end, that certain people "deserve" suffering, is atrocious. No creature deserves to suffer. This belief, that nobody deserves suffering, is incompatible with the alternately meritocratic and social Darwinist defenses of capitalism's inequities.
Of course, aside from philosophy, there are my personal material interests and experiences. I am a victim of capitalism. I was (illegally) removed from my father's employee health insurance, which had conveniently fired all their support staff to make it impossible to dispute without resorting to legal action I couldn't afford. This caused me to lose access to my anti-depressant medication, drop out of college, and be crushed by unforgivable student loan debt. My attempt at suicide left me with an extra several thousand dollar hospital bill, and I am now a debt peon.

Poor family, poor city, etc. Seeing people work their entire lives and then getting injured, sick, and miserable but still worshipping flags and soldiers and justifying obvious bullshit, blaming the niggers next door in an identical situation and then apologizing for bosses. What originally led me to leftism was trying to understand race and racial conflict in like middle school (im white from mostly black/immigrant area) and that led me to the Black Panthers. Coming into leftism from black nationalism was a good way to get innoculated against IdPol because the difference between Malcolm X and Huey Newton's politics is so obvious without any appeal to their excellent identities or whatever.

And thats a rationalized way of acting like there was an easily plotted reasonable progression for what was definitely an emotional process involving a lot of anger and resentment, probably some need to feel contrarian, psychosexual repression I'll never understand, etc etc

shitposting flag my bad

The result of social alienation coupled with a variety of related psychological symptoms. At the core I oppose profiting off the work off other people, and think that a society which doesn't consist of autistic dog eat dog where profit is god is definitely possible.

Most of my life I've spent doing little that has brought me much joy. I want to make the most of it I can dedicating it to the advancement of society, since this is the only thing I can see bringing me joy. I may be called a LARPer, but being a wage slave is to me a total waste of life. I have considering helping Rojava after I graduate lately.

I'm very conservative but was "converted" to Communism after reading Hobbes and Marx within a year of each other. Shit is weird. I still dislike social "freedom" for the most part though.

Idk. But I am a INFP and grew up dirt poor. I feel like it was a combination of the two that lead me here.

I hate jobs and hate that our system is basically a time-vampire that allows only a few to have time to enjoy themselves.

Hard to tell considering I haven't found an affinity for anything in particular, perhaps yet.
Being somewhat of an idealist and a perfectionist certainly leaves me striving for utopia, even if impossible to achieve, as far as I'm concerned it's no excuse.
Then there's my lonely childhood which lead me towards learning english and thanks to internet, making the few friends I could from different parts of the world, maybe first steps towards cosmopolitanism.
At some point I found myself an outsider amongst outsiders, with no one I could consider truly dear anymore. At this point however I also succumb to misanthropy, seeing how stupid and shallow people get.
That leaves me both seeking closure in a palce I could find myself in as well as folk I could find myself amongst. And I know that they are, just not whether I'll be able to reach out for them when lost and blind.
Instead, hopelesness often gets in the way, which I try and fend off with philosophy, if not metaphysics even… where there are no sparks to ignite warmth of comfort and mentioned closure.
Other than that I was born and live in a post-eastern bloc country with plenty years wiped off the maps due multiple occupations, where it nowadays inspires patriotism, hard catholicism or national pseudo-messianism..
I'm just tired of seeing it's bullshit solidarity for external threat, only to fall into decline or stagnation as they fight themselves when there's nothing to "unite" against.
Not to mention the retarded sheeple mentality that makes them wake up only with a hand in the potty when there's no bread on their tables.
At last I'm growing skeptical of capitalism, but there's also the question of finding balance between individualism and collectivism. As if centrist tendencies weren't enough..
As much as I like the utopian idea of communism or communalism, I won't be able to find myself part of a commune I do not trust or associate with due mentioned misanthopy.
It'd take a significant change in people to change into what I'd consider fellow folk, even as open of an idea it'd be, here I'd also refer to the posted image, where it's the people that make up the utopia.
In the end I take an individual take on everything and cherish everything best that one can find themselves fond of.
Be it virtues and values that Ayn Rand promotes, Stirner's egoism and the union, so on and so forth, hell, Nietzche even.
Perhaps the greatest change would be to cherish and nurture, a struggle not between proletariat and the bourgeoisie but fellow folk and the people.

I'll be grateful for genuine insight and guidance, if not sparks to ignite significance.

I find it amazing how fallacious people are in their beliefs and seek to be devoid of contraction

Contradiction

Mexican, right? I feel there's a huge cultural gap between social classes here. upper middle class kids who grew up with international, mainly US media are pretty much foreigners in their own land. Growing up, you could tell it was a constant worry for mom, maintaining our upper middle class position, ie. a house in the nicer side of town and private school for the kids (with english lessons, and loads and loads of catholic or neoliberal indoctrination, even though mom was rather on the new age bohemian side ideologically).

For years, my siblings and I only wore hand me down clothes from relatives. I always felt rather alienated from everything, could be my unorthodox upbringing (ie. not catholic, dad is a burnout think the mexican Jeff Lebowski, had no inclination for sports, socially inept). I think i might have learnt more from the internet than from school, specially imageboards.

Yes! wtf dude?? Your upbringing is eerily similar to mine…
Are you from Monterrey?

yep. Lived most of my life there.

I don't have a truly fixed ideology because i hate being wrong. I have yet to find an ideology that could have truly the answer to absolutely every autistic questioning i could have.

I'm still interested in politics despite the fucking shitshow because i have this gut feel that if we don't drastically reduce the world's problems, they will come bite me in the ass at some point.

I think life should be as fair and painless as possible because of my own personal experiences through the abyss of poverty starting from stability. My eyes have been gradually opened to how the rich see the world and social parasitism; if I didn't find socialism I'd just be one of those politically disengaged punk guys that view everything cynically and don't vote but at least know the rich are the source of it all. You know the ones. My mom is vaguely anti-rich and helped instill those ideas in me from a young age but I thought it was "only some rich".

At around the same time I realized that for some reason God wasn't interested in answering my prayers. I hadn't bothered him too much before then and when I needed him he wasn't there. I got the typical canned crap about how suffering makes us stronger but I didn't want to be stronger, I wanted to be happy and have someone, anyone to love. (no not romantically) I initially bought it anyway but then I realized that a God that just lets things fall into place is far from the Christian ideal of God- I read the Bible critically and found that the God it described by a liberal interpretation was quite different from the God Christians think of. So for a while I believed in that God instead, and then I realized that there was no way of proving or disproving his existence at that juncture and believing in him wasn't doing anything for me so now I'm just kind of an ignostic (yes that's spelled correctly).

This too, I've always been interested in logic and debate and found the strongest case here.

I just can`t change form the authoritarian phase set by Hobbes anymore.

2 years ago I still used to be full blown democratic socialist. Now I can`t see any future for that ideology in my life.

there's a high chance we know each other IRL.
Although it seems you went to the Irish school, so maybe not.
Are any of your friends socialist? I don't have any socialist friends (except 1 or 2 gay liberals posing as commies) :(

I grew up with two moms, and while we were very comfortable financially, I knew from a young age about systemic injustice in society. I hate seeing injustice and feel guilty that I never have to worry about financial troubles while others struggle to put food on their table. And I hate how a fortunate few are able to profit off the suffering of others. It just doesn't seem fair to me. I also have a bit of a superiority complex, which leads me to hold contempt for those who disagree with me, making me slightly more authoritarian, despite my generally left-libertarian beliefs.
Also, this is somewhat unrelated, but thanks to OP for bringing up this topic. I don't think many people realize how much our emotions and personalities influence our political stances, which is why I don't think a completely homogeneous society will ever exist.