Why does Holla Forums exclude transwomen from the feminist movement?

I'm against American style identity politics, and their whole inane mode of discourse. However, the trans people I've met irl are usually ok though. You'll get a really distorted idea of people if you rely on 'Milo DESTROYS pink hair feminist SJW' type YouTube content.In many societies around the world being trans is not even a thing, it's just seen as a third gender or natural variation.

its more that I just don't give a shit. Like at all. Do whatever you want to your genitals. Good for you.

no, we aren't literal TERF Hillary supporters, let alone identitarians.

Probably for the same reason furries are excluded.

Niche fetishes are not sexual orientations. You are a lonely young man who watched too much anime and developed a bizarre fixation with stereotypical femininity because your meaningful interactions with women were few and far inbetween.

Actual women are killed because of gender. It's not your playground.

That's rich.

Those mean and nasty TERFs hate liberals. Gender-critical feminism is about as far as one can get from pomo-infused lean-in/choice "feminism"

gender is a spook
transgenderism is traditionalist

I support people doing whatever the fuck they want as long as they don't make it my problem. Trans people insist on making it other people's problem.

Assigned Male is written by a liberal normie, though.

quality thread coming right up

spooky

This. Their identity is a product of their opression, and their opression is a product of their identity. It's cyclical.

Most overly loud trans people are the same way, though, so that literally doesn't matter at all.
I've met decent trans people irl and I'm more than happy to cooperate with them but I won't put up with people who derive 90% of their personality from the fact that they dislike their genitals.

Being annoying is in itself a personality trait. There is no point in trying to tie it to random things unless you are one of those normies that is hell bent on forever simmering about a single unpleasant experience they had in life.

Read Hobbes.

kys

I am fine with being excluded honestly.

learn to read nigga

You can hate whoever you want, but don't pretend your feelings are rational.

Rights are spooks. Read Stirner.

to be fair, furry doesn't necessitate sexual fetish, some people just like the non-sexual furry art.

I will find you. And I will kill you.

Do you see any organised movement to push them out of here? Or anyone calling that they are worth less, or should have less than anyone else besides retarded tankies? No? Then they are not excluded. You cant force everyone to be invested in their problems and issues.

this. This is the number one reason why dumbfuck redditors call me 'reactionary'. Me not caring that much about the specific part of socialism that you care about the most isn't the same as me rejecting it. I just give a fuck about other things.

Leftypol is a anonymous mass of people. There is no consensus. Holla Forums infilitrates as well. Dumb question from the start

Do we? I don't. I see trans issues as a separate struggle for emancipation from feminism, but one in the same as feminism, same as class issues, same as race issues.

Sounds like a straw man to me. Most trans people I talk to are multi-faceted people like everyone else. Maybe you loathe hearing about trans issues, but it's not the only thing every trans person cares about. I, for one, do not make being trans the "defining trait of my identity" nor do I have one single defining trait of my identity.
How is my identity a product of oppression? Are you seriously implying that I wouldn't be trans if everyone was okay with people being trans? Do you actually think that all trans people are lowkey contrarians?

Holla Forums is not a cohesive group in ideological lockstep. We do nothing but argue here.

the third wave feminism and all idpol just a porky shit

Idk what youre talking about

Holla Forums is not one person

I completely support transpeople and of course their struggles are valid. What I dont support is liberal idealism, censorship, and a heirarchy of suffering policed by strict language regulations.

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confirmed. Leftypol is actually 90% posts by tim the fbi agent trying to honeypot other leftists into revealing their personal info RUN

Gender is a porky myth. Identifying with a cultural hologram and going out of your way to commodify your physical appearance to match others expectations of that shared myth is peak spook.

I understand their struggle and would fight for them, but i don't support identity politics.

Stirner was the first TERF

Feminism and transgenderism inherently conflict if you want to maintain any sort of logical consistency whatsoever.

lies

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Hey, you, explain yourself:

This makes me sad. You'll be welcome in any worthwhile leftist movement peebs, you are 100% not idpol.

Kys

lol nice bait; but if youre being sincere I accept you.

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wanting to fuck in the ass is not an idpol faggot

I shall now pluck a chicken and call it man.

I implied none of that.

But gender can't be a social construct if you're BORN with a certain gender's brain (which is what trans people contend). That would, by definition, make gender biological, not social.

this. when i found out that this was what they were arguing for is when i droped the trans issue faster than a steaming shit in a baked potato. ubersp00k.

communism will socialize all traps

How is gender a porky myth?

What is meant is that conventional notions of gender are social constructs, you stupid spooked faggots.

No it's true, there are people who just like the art for the art.

its idpol made to divide the working class and encourage sexism by separating the sexes into different roles.

Gender roles preced Capitalism.

liberals are not welcome here