why is there such a sexual undercurrent in alt-right/Holla Forums rhetoric?
-the overt sexualization of trump among his fans -"cuck" -the fact that so much of their racial stuff is centered around penis length/rape/emasculation -the weird relationship between ancaps and pedophilia, which they themselves definitely have a hand in -the entire idea of 'degeneracy,' which almost every time turns out to be a complaint with some way in which sexuality is being handled or expressed -the fixation on traditional gender roles being reinforced
in a way, it's their biggest obsession. what else is Holla Forums actually concerned about? they obviously don't really care about economics, most race stuff is, like i said, sexual in nature, women are one of their biggest talking points, and all of the white nationalist stuff is always tied to reproduction.
what the fuck is going on here? is it because the movement was spawned by repressed /r9k/ types or is it something else?
For young people, at least, he conservative populist undercurrent is made up of the losers of the sexual revolution. In their minds they think that everyone is fucking except them and they are incredibly mad and insatiable horny about this. All alt-right, nrx stuff can be traced to this.
You're basically pic related right now you do realize that right?
Brayden Sullivan
What's the difference between an alt-rightist and a rooster?
The rooster says 'cuck' less often.
Colton Moore
it's not the same. being on a chan, of course there's going to be some kind of sexual shit on any board, but with Holla Forums it's completely different. it really seems like they've been talking about nothing but dicks and cuckoldry for two years now. you've gotta be blind to not see how sexual that place is
Daniel Martinez
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William Murphy
it's not about being the 'most' nsfw, it's just weird when any political movement gets so intertwined with sexuality
Michael Barnes
Porn boards don't count, silly.
Chase Wright
lel, although i haven't seen what you are talking about recently
Xavier Perez
It's a nice little word, rolls easily of the tongue and has a punch to it. You could be called spineless degenerate nerds who spend their time consuming theories on how everything you hate about yourself is akshually caused by an anthromorphic pig with a top hat and his disciplining-ideological-systemic-empire-alienation producing machines (or in short, society aka other people) that has your balls between a set of pliers, but "cuck" just sounds better. It's like how people say fuck instead of sexual intercourse.
Plus, it makes you squeak that funny little "no u!" sound, making it an excellent insult.
Sex is dirty and has no place in politics or political discussion. Everyone who breaks this vow of political chastity has a small penis and is probably a virgin as well.
Isaac Phillips
While I hate seeing anime on boards that have nothing to do 2D, it's stupid to complain that leftypol does this when Holla Forums does the same (although they're a bunch of poser otaku, if you ask me).
Jordan Morales
This is a chan board, there is as much fun on Holla Forums as on Holla Forums
Eli Reed
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Camden Roberts
I'm not sure why you're telling me that.
Juan Wright
you targeted Holla Forums only, but its pretty obvious that the autism is present on whichever board you go on, wether it's in an nsfw way or not
Zachary Gonzalez
Freud was right.
Cameron Carter
It's a white nationalist interracial cuckold porn board, what did you expect?
Jonathan Brooks
Ok.
Jaxon Miller
Jesus Christ, you can't meme or tell joke's .
Adrian Peterson
It's about demographics. White people don't want their homelands to become Brazil.
Nolan Lee
you can tell a chord has been struck because you feel the need to both defend the Holla Forums position and criticize the Holla Forums one, even though nothing in the op is criticizing Holla Forums's actual political stance, but asking a question about the board culture.
i can't tell if you're being ironic
Nathaniel Cook
right, thats why a certain kind of pornography has just happened become one of the biggest Holla Forums talking points. nothing sexual about that, just demographics.
Joseph Nelson
thats a joke we laugh at the ancaps when they try to say they wont do that because it compromises their own beliefs its a no way out argument, they either support child sex slaves and not compromise their ideology and they're a pedo or they say 'oh no we wont do that' and that makes them a hypocrite joke racial stuff? nope emasculation? men castrating themselves as a fetish is a thing you know and its sick we're allowed to feel a bit off put by a man inflating his testicles to the size of a beach ball with gelatin, splitting their penis down the center so it looks like a peeled sliced banana and slotting their prolapsed rectum over their t-rex dragon dildo tbh fat problem haired dykes and effeminate men who've had more dicks in their mouth than a Bangkok whore should induce a bit of despair tbh
Dylan Watson
They should watch Nekromantik.
Carson Martinez
generally the sexual morality bollocks come from >>>/christian/ where conservacuck young republicans and christian youth groups congratulate each other for their abstinence
Jace Collins
He doesn't ask a question, he copypastes the thread that is posted here daily and adds a "why?" at the end of it. This isn't about any genuine interest or observation, but a call for confirmation of op's own pornographic mind.
Jaxson Garcia
haha holy shit way to miss the point.
i'm not interested in debating whether or not Holla Forums's talking point are true or not, i'm asking about why so many of the issues chosen have either overt or implicit sexuality in them, and why they sexualize nearly every other issue.
nothing is ever just a joke. why is it funny?
nope emasculation? men castrating themselves as a fetish is a thing you know and its sick
i seriously don't know what you're saying here. first off, you can't just say "nope" when literally everyone knows that interracial sex is a massive Holla Forums talking point. secondly, that's not what emasculation means and i find it hilariously revealing that that is how you imagined it.
who isn't put off by that. i certainly am. in fact, im so put off that i don't make it a point to discuss it every other day because i don't have to
why?
Jordan Roberts
It's an analogy for the replacement of white populations in western countries. It's also a more literal criticism of western sexual liberation (i.e. literal cuckoldry). Not terribly complicated
William Davis
I've noticed a general increase in the theme of "gender wars" across the board lately. Manosphere stuff, especially MGTOW and incels, seems to be growing explosively. There's always a thread up now about MGTOW/marriage/why women are destroying the west, general /r9k/ tier threads. The funny thing is that these threads are pretty divisive and cause NEET autists and larpers who claim to have a qt traditionalist waifu and 10 white kids to fight amongst themselves on what the best way to save the white race is. Terms like "beta virgin" and "pussy worshipper" get tossed all over the place.
Zachary Nelson
i didn't copypaste anything, and i'm asking a concrete question: why is Holla Forums so sexual? also, hilarious that i'm the pornographic one when Holla Forums's catchphrase is literally from a porn genre
the fact that sex has been chosen as the preferable metaphor for "anuddah shoah" says something whether you like it or not.
James Brooks
It's not entirely wrong, but it isn't out of experience. Women are fucking crazy, especially in the First World.
William Green
if you dont get it then you dont understand the culture not really its kinda like not a big deal they just dont like interracial breeding sex is whatever unless you're a puritan its the literal definition of it because its got historical parallels in history and this sort of activities arise naturally during the final stages of society its the last days of Rome all over again
its not its existence thats questioned its the false popularity of it its pushed as one of the most popular fetishes but their are conflicting statistics that say otherwise
Jace Watson
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Carter Harris
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Jeremiah Thomas
Do you understand what replacement is?
Carter Ortiz
that's not true.
Those are good in moderation, as were the lone redditor/An-Fem questioning /leftypol's positions. It's precisely the lack of diversity regarding tangentially-left talking points that's to blame for the festering state that the board is in right now.
magnetic poles atom bombs rhymes with ight or ing …
Angel Martin
i think it's funny too, but imo there's more going on than that
first off, it's clearly a big deal, i see multiple topics on there about it every day. also, i don't think we can deny that getting upset about the sexual acts of people you don't even know reveals much more about you than it does them.
i don't see how self-castration applies to this definition
its the last days of Rome all over again
rome fell because of economic contradictions. even if we somehow wanted to correlate what was happening in the roman sexual sphere at the time of its collapse with tumblr feminism (which is retarded), we still can only look at these things as manifestations of bigger problems and not the issue itself. also, you're just incorrect. in terms of economic dominance, the west is doing better than ever.
i've never seen cuckoldry being pushed by anyone other than Holla Forums. if anything, Holla Forums has created the problem it's so upset about
Tyler Wood
It's the historical definition of it.
Kinda like anarchy was the break of hierarchy and order in a military context and then became the political philosophy of bearded men in the 19th century which consisted of breaking hierarchies.
Evan Jones
No, you're just all alike, no need for literal copy-pasting.
Good question, there's a lot to it. How do you usually approach questions like this? For example, why do some people wish to live in a cage as a sex slave, why is cuckolding an actual fetish?
If you want understand the sexual pathologies of Holla Forums, you first have to understand sexual degradation and it's conflicting desires itself.
Owen Parker
i dont watch e-celeb blogposting in video form i dont need my opinions spoonfed to me I'll do my own research and come to my own conclusions like a person and not a robot
why not?
its not its a joke that gets big, lefties dont get it so we double down and make the lefties think theres more going on and we laugh harder yeah shills/trolls or COINTELPRO or whatever you call it it triggers the stormfaggots assumptions made from your pretentious pedestal reflect that crescent moon and star in your flag more than anything m8 thats a new google meaning to literally emasculate someone is to geld them im not getting into that the sexual deviants of the modern era coming out of the closet are symptoms of a societal problem they're the lesions that hint to the cancer at the core Rome experienced these same symptoms thats all i mean go on Pornhub or Youporn and set your location on your VPN to the USA you'll see plenty of white women getting BLACKED on the front page supposed to be reflections of popularity but the most popular porn in the USA is lesbian porn not interracial cuck porn
Evan Thomas
which isn't true, Rome was ruled by pagans who worshipped greek party gods and beauty gods and glory gods and fucked little boys for the majority of its existence. when it fell it was ruled by christians who believed in abstinence and self-sacrifice and the inherent worth of the human soul.
Jaxson Gray
have you ever actually been to Holla Forums? you do know that they doxed their al-right counterparts exactly because of sexuality bullshit, right? I don't know how far up your own ass you must be now to think this shit you people outlined in OP has anything to do with them at all
Justin Powell
most of /christian/ dislikes Holla Forums, most of the deep neetsoc larpers on 8/pol/ are pagans and nietzcheans. they don't preech chastity but vague "family values", it's not about bettering the individual but pushing a narrative. they treat women like cattle in the same thread that's supposed to be praising mothers.
You're just looking for a boogeyman to justify your board's autists, there is no need.
Blake Hernandez
So.. to save America we need to go pedo? Someone call John Podesta.
Christopher Brooks
you don't know what you're talking about.
/r9k/ has much more in common with you people. I've seen how hostile Holla Forums is to their "values"
Isaiah Hughes
No, it's just that sexuality has very little to do with societal decay or lack therof.
Easton Smith
you don't need to do PR here. just fuck off.
James Walker
true but read of the last days of Rome sexual fun for Rome wasnt what the modern era considers sexual fun Women in positions of power, in charge of their own bodies, cunnilingus, bestiality and sexual submission to women was Roman sexual perversion the Roman aristocracy was very puritan as well or was supposed to be virtuous women and honourable men was the slogan of the Republic and the last days of the Empire saw Roman women using slave boys like dildos and Roman men even the Roman emperors like Egalaballus who cross dressed as a Roman whore and would go amongst the plebs to the whore house where he would solicit men for sex
Samuel Rivera
the autism is real
top kek
Nicholas Hill
Donald was probably not always 100% that his kids were his, possibly tiffany?
Hence the added craziness
Kayden Perry
I dunno OP, it's almost as if Freud, Reich, Lacan, et al. were onto something.
Carson Brooks
if you want to understand its like building a lie for the children of the future so they can enjoy a life of blissful ignorance and innocence that we didnt get to experience ourselves
Wyatt Sanchez
never heard of Reich and Lacan but Freud is bullshit in psychology they reference Freud for his pioneering in the field but ensure everyone understands Freuds research cant be replicated so its false
Camden Morris
lol i'm a big ol lacanian, and i'm almost exactly sure as to why Holla Forums is the way it is. i wanted to see what their response was to being asked about it and i've gotta say, i'm not disappointed
Camden Collins
Where do those claims come from? What legitimate non-political historian?
It's just appealing to the general image of "decay" and comparing it to today.
Kayden Harris
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Logan Morgan
Then why did you deny this when I called you out on it?
Samuel Jenkins
you're no better than astrology
Jason Peterson
obviously i have my own opinions, but i wasn't expressing those in the question i asked.
Daniel Wilson
enjoy your limp-dick cognitive garbage my guy
Angel Ward
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Austin Price
You did, you say it yourself "obviously", it's indeed obvious when you put a question mark behind a copy-pasted cliché from the Holla Forums hivemind. You're so obvious, it must be the fridge mother complex that explains you.
Chase Perez
old news fam, this has been going on since 2013 lol
Andrew Cook
You're reading way too much into this. In order:
He's more of a surrogate father to them. Though given what he seems to think about Ivanka, who knows.
This is largely used as a synonym for "anyone who isn't a sociopath." They're useful idiots for the promotion of rightist economics, and in order to perform this function effectively they need an insult that's effectively unfalsifiable. Its sexual nature is derived from that rather than the other way around. They've chosen to equate supporting democratic economics with allowing others to have sex with your spouse because it's politically convenient.
Is it? I browse Holla Forums a lot and don't really notice it. In my experience, their racism is more centered around crime rates and such.
This varies by individual. Some ancaps are just crypto-fascists, while others hold more strongly to their individualist views. Of course, nobody here supports child sex slaves, but if you're promoting Amerilard puritanism about how everyone even one second under 18 is an innocent little angel with no agency who can't possibly consent to anything sexual despite having been through sex education years before, don't expect not to catch heat for that, given that you're on an imageboard.
See the previous segment. Having a problem with legitimate expressions of sexuality isn't exclusive to the right. There are just a lot of stupid people who believe fearmongering bullshit, and that cuts across all political boundaries.
This is just a knee-jerk reaction to feminism's attempts at destroying videogames, and other nefarious deeds.
All in all, if there's anything here, it really only applies to Holla Forums, which is less influential than they think. Holla Forums didn't get Trump into office. The average American voter did, and the average American voter isn't a full-blown 1488 Hitler-lover. nu-Holla Forums doesn't care about economics because they barely even know what economics is. They think everything would work just fine if the minorities were gone. For those who have serious psychosexual motivations to be on the hard-right, the left frankly hasn't done much to help them.
Jaxon Scott
honestly ancapism seems like an ideology for those who think that whatever they want out of a society (sex with children, overt racism) isn't ever going to be allowed in a civilised society with rules so they want to do away with rules altogether.
Hudson Parker
Holla Forums is in fact a dudebro plot to train the wimmin and grab as much pussy as you want
Carter Mitchell
No it's just a trick to get angry bros get angrier because dem black steel our wimmin
Caleb Miller
Seems like sick fantasies of sex-deprived middle-ages christian
Evan Barnes
Maybe so. Then again, sometimes they're right. If you're gay in Russia, or ephebo in the US, or black in apartheid South Africa, you're pretty well justified in wanting to just plain get rid of the society you live in now, because even the people there who are relatively progressive mostly won't help you. Spooked people consider authoritarian moralism an integral part of being civilized, and they won't be persuaded otherwise by any amount of evidence.
Matthew Bailey
I have no problem with authoritarianism, as long as law is separated from moralism. Only the consequences of having a law matter.
Asher Bailey
With authoritarianism you're almost guaranteed to have laws based on spooks.
Ryan Morris
The time between the "fall" of the Western Empire and the reign of Elagaballus is greater than the total existence of the US as a state. Stop talking, you are simply ignorant of history, fam.
Hudson Thompson
Why is there such a sexual undercurrent in English vernacular?
wanker, jerk fucked, screwed, sucks suck it up left a bad taste in the mouth ass reaming, torn a new one
Could it be humans, especially the uneducated, are fixated upon sex? And, that the powerful manipulate this for their own purposes?