Help me become leftist

I wanna become a leftist.
I believe in state capitalism and i think the state should own all businesses,hospitals etc

I believe in conservative gender roles and i think homosexuality is wrong

Im uncertain what i think of immigration but i mostly view it as negative

What am I?

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Welcome to the party, comrade.

I'd say you're a NeoCon by the sounds of it, there's a reading list to be found in the FAQ, try starting with that

gonna have a hard time being a leftist. At best, if you still believe in capitalism you can be a social democrat. Might recommend doing some reading and seeing if after seeing capitalism critiqued you still want it.

Why? do gay people freak you out? does it insult your religious sensibilities?

Live and let live man, don't dictate how others should live their lives


Same but not from a racial perspective. I'm just as opposed to a white German immigrating into my country as I am a Nigerian, or a Mexican. Only because it creates increased competition for jobs and drives down wages. But after a socialist revolution, there's no reason to oppose immigration.

Not a leftist for sure. Probably a ML state capitalist

let the traply-wiles of contrapoints sooth over your soul

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an extremely spooked individual. don't let people with tank flags talk to you, they have seducing tongues.

Can someone please briefly explain what socialism is? How is it different to capitalism? I'm an economic novice.

To put it as simply as possible
Capitalism is where the Means of Productions are privately owned
Socialism is where the people who working the Means of Productions own the Means of Productions

you might be spooked beyond saving mate.

I don't consider state-capitalism leftist. It's too similar to corporatism.

have fun being exploited i guess, if you want to have someone other than yourself directing your activities and owning the products of your labor, which is against leftism.


why? you could be missing out. anyways, keep it to yourself.


even though its pretty clear that the bourgeoisie only use it to prop up the economies of first world nations by exploiting their labor, i think its still better than being in a warzone or rotting in a refugee camp.

also a lot of negative talk around immigrants is pure hysteria created by right wing nationals who are too concerned about their ethnostate due to them wanting to feel valuable after all the value in their life has been taken by capitalism and they're constantly scared by fake news surrounding foreigners.

heres a good video about one of those instances: youtube.com/watch?v=4PuXoOvDYPE


what you want to be comrade

The widest and most simplistic definition(it gets a lot of shit from more orthodox people here) would be a system where the workplaces are self-managed by the people working in them, alternatively one say that said workplaces are owned by the society rather than by the individuals

i believe in everything OP believes in but instead of capitalism i believe in socialism. what does that make me

It makes him an honest tankie and you a delusional one who drank Stalin's kool-aid regarding the meaning of socialism.

Close but no cigar, state apparatus tends to become alienated and therefore reproduce capitalists, except it also makes laws, which might be even worse in case of its detachment
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It's generated by the capitalist system, so it's not like anybody's opinion matters here.

Ever worked a restaurant job and wondered why you and your coworkers are only getting $10 an hour, even when there are many hundreds of dollars worth of burritos going through the register?

It all goes to the owner of the business, someone who often is not involved with the management at all, but pays somebody to do it for him. Because he had the money to buy the capital (building, kitchen, etc) he can use that leverage to pay the workers in that business far less than they actually make.

In a socialist economy, you and your coworkers own the infrastructure of the business, so you get paid as a share of what is actually sold, not an arbitrary wage set by the capitalist. If you work harder and the business does well, you get more money, and if the business doesn't do well, you're still probably getting more than what a waged job would get.

Hi Holla Forums

We have these threads everyday
Conservatism needs to die in order for Communism, kys.

idpol

Capitalism is when private individuals own the means of production (ie. factories, offices, workplaces).

Socialism is when the workers democratically own the means of production.


Being a Muslim, I somewhat share the same opinion. However, that doesn't mean you or I should enforce our beliefs on others. If people don't subscribe to your views on sexuality, what's the point in trying to get them to follow? Live and let live, as long as no one is being harmed.

It's also important to remember that both you and your fellow gay worker are both being utterly cucked by the capitalist elites of society. You are both being exploited. Hateful right-wing pundits on Fox News (that make 6-figure salaries, mind you) use gay people (and racial minorities) as scapegoats to distract from the real enemy: the capitalists.


It's important to understand why people immigrate to America. It's not because they're interested in the cuisine or culture, or anything else. It's not because they seek to spread drugs, or rape, or kill, like the fool Donald Trump claims. If you ask any immigrant why they come to this country (my parents, for example), nearly 100% of them all have the same answer: for a better life economically. And why is it that America is the wealthiest nation in the world? It's because of capitalism and imperialism.

Capitalism is inherently prone to crisis and instability (see. 2008, Great Depression, etc.), as well as a falling rate of profit. This means capitalism is doomed to fail, and needs a way to keep itself floating. This is where imperialism comes in. The American government charges into countries (Iraq is one of the most well-known examples in recent history), in order to take resources and maintain its own economy. It also interferes in foreign countries' politics, in order to maintain its control all across the globe. This is why refugees from Muslim countries, migrants from Latin American countries, etc. all come to America. Because America has bombed and destabilized their homelands, and they must now come to where they can secure the most wealth for their families and children. If you want less immigration, then you should support an international end to capitalism.


I really suggest you watch this interview: youtube.com/watch?v=2yEiv1fIhyE

It's of a professor named Dr. Richard Wolff, who is Marxist. He gives very good, simple explanations about the system we live in, and explains the many issues that flow from it. Please watch it, with an open mind.

Standard-issue Marxism-Leninism. And most of all of socialism, for that matter.

Spooks, son.

Eh, it's understandable considering immigration as it is right now is simply a tool for Porky to get cheaper labor. The very earliest leftists opposed immigration on these grounds. But what you have to keep in mind that those immigrants are as much, if not even more, of a victim of capitalism as you are. Yes some are violent and yes some are dumb, I'm afraid that's just true of any subset of any population. But what really matters is that a lot of them are spooked to high heavens, and once these are dispelled, you see that both of you have the exact same class interests.

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Good, conservative gender roles and homophobia have existed long before capitalism and the bourgeois class, it has nothing to do with identity politics.

Firstly, welcome.

Secondly, with regard to state capitalism, check out youtube.com/watch?v=6P97r9Ci5Kg
for a decent and fast rundown on some of the issues facing capitalism in the modern world.


Knock it off. Caring about how other people live their lives in this capacity will only make your own life unnecessarily more complicated. And what, are you going to take it to the point where you'd put these people in cages because they're different from you? How could that ever go wrong?


This can somewhat depend on the time, place and situation. However, I have to note that a lot of the immigrants we are seeing now in Europe and the ones we'll be seeing more of in the future are here because of capitalism, and in many cases (like in the US) having a bunch of cheap, desperate labor can certainly create profit for some industrious bourgeois looking for a new herd of laborers to exploit. That's the usual outcome of immigration for the poor in today's world.

If you're wanting to help people put you on a political compass, could you tell us a bit about how you view democracy?

Why would anybody want such awfulness?

Juche, or NazBol

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