So Erdogan just asked the Turkish people living in Holland to get at least 5 children so they can increase the Turkish people in Europe.
Also he is trying to enrage the Turkish people living here and put them against the rest of the country. The problem here is that while there are some ultranationalist Turkish living in the Netherlands most aren't and there is a lot of division within the Turkish community here.
The peer pressure within the Turkish community here is increasing by the day and a lot of Turkish people are don't dare to speak against Erdogan out of fear of the response from their social circles (exclusion, hate, violence etc).
Another problem is, that this causes a division between the Turkish and non-Turkish people living in Europe.
This will further increase the tensions within the Turkish community and speed up the above process.
Also another reason why the Turkish people won't make a fist against this nonsense is out of fear of what will happen to their Turkish family living in Turkey.
On top of that, because of this the tensions between the Turkish government and the governments of European countries get bigger and bigger.
Europe is also 'dependant' on Turkey for their 'solution' to the immigrant 'crisis'.
Erdogan threatened to let more refugees into Europe.
This is an incredibly complex problem. Ofcourse Holla Forums would have plenty of solutions ranging from killing all Turkish, waging war against Turkey and deporting all Turkish, but that's not really a solution.
Why do people say stuff like this so often about all sorts of nations? It should be plainly obvious that there are ugly and pretty girls in every country.
Colton Fisher
The dutch government should increase integration of those people. Do like the italian government and hand out tickets to go watch concerts, theater, exhibitions, films, give books. Ideally is to not allow immigrants to concentrate on the bigger cities. Promote them to go live in small villages.
Noah Nguyen
Get Erdogan out.
Zachary Bennett
Not all Turkish.
Just one.
Problem solved.
Isaiah Reyes
The problem is that the neoliberals litterally do the opposite, intentionally. And the socialist party warned us and they got cried down because muh racism.
Nathan Myers
there's legions of Turks who will throw themselves in front of tanks for this man
it goes beyond him
William Wood
We'd love to, but the liberal government has decided that the wisest course of action would be to privatize integration. The immigrants have to pay for it themselves, using a loan, and then also have to manage their entire education and all that crap personally without instruction. I wish I was fucking joking.
Anthony Rodriguez
why is he thinking about smash?
Dylan Cooper
Turks are crazy nationalist and retain that retardation for generations
Thomas Gray
Yes and on top of that, most of the Dutch people wouldn't even pass the test of those courses. Also the courses and papers they have to fill in are all in Dutch, so they have no way to read what they say.
Isaiah Young
Just use a machinegun then
Robert Murphy
Invisible hand
Elijah Moore
Do your duty to stop the roach infestation.
Ian Howard
Simpleminded fool That would just spark a war and radicalize not only the rest of the Turkish people, but also the rest of the population.
Mason Walker
Sounds like a plan. Better get this new fascist phase over with so it has time to fail before the planet dies completely.
hype as fuck for Erdogan's upcoming referendum tbh
feel like shit could really kick off there after the result
Robert Smith
This might be the best solution out there.
Joseph Thomas
Unpopular opinion and ideologically aligned with my flag, which I don't normally fly, but here goes.
Wait for the next pro-Erdogan rally/riot to kick off. Fuel it, give it some fire. You want every roach out of the woodwork for this plan. Do whatever it takes to get them all in one place, do anything it takes to do this. Neglect problem areas, beat peaceful areas of protest, just force them into one concentrated area. Once they are there, round them up, arrest them for terrorism and make their Dutch citizenship void and send them back to Turkey. If Turkey kick up a fuss increasingly threaten them, and do anything between fight to have them expelled from NATO, threaten to break up the EU, or invade them and call upon Russia/Syria to help you in your hour of need. Erdogan needs to be dealt with sooner rather than later.
Jonathan Cruz
Formally recognise the Armenian genocide and deport anyone who complains
Kayden Sanders
Do euroturks like Erdogan that much ?
Caleb Rivera
While its not a bad plan overall, we only have ~5 tanks, since we sold all of them.
Aaron Scott
turks treat the armenian genocide the exact same way Holla Forums treats the holocaust: it didn't happen… it wasn't as bad as the media say… THE FUCKING DESERVED IT AND WE'D DO IT AGAIN OKAY?
Asher King
the man is an idiot and so are his followers, a bit like Trump but in a kebabish way. that being said i think the fucker is going all in trying to alienate and antagonize people as much as he can because he has a referendum soon that would make him literally the roach king
Owen James
Call the Americans and ask for more tanks. They need someone to sell their tanks to in order to create more jobs in tank manufacturing.
Jack Mitchell
A good way would be to hack the voting machines. If he loses the referendum, that'd be a huge hit.
A Turkish minister was calling for holy wars in Europe the other day so this aint much
Evan Morgan
We deus vult now?
Matthew Walker
Claiming something will happen is different than ordering people to do something.
If he'd ask the Turkish people to start a holy war it's different
Owen Stewart
The Netherlands engaging in war kek. When was the last time that happened? In the 1600's when their armada was obliterated by the british?
David Miller
Or when we kept the Spanish out for over 80 years?
Jaxson Gomez
Fucking please.
Adrian Evans
If you want a war just ask the Burgers. Burgers love war. Nothing would make Trump happier than fighting a war against Muh Slims.
John Adams
Eww…
Josiah Hernandez
We practically litterally invented capitalism, don't be surprised.
Jose Williams
EUROPE IS BEING INVADED AND THE COLONIZERS ARE OPEN ABOUT IT BUT YOU PATHETIC LEFTCUCKS WILL DENY IT UNTIL YOU'RE BLUE IN THE FACE
Julian Thompson
I think you've got your centuries mixed up. The 1600s were the Dutch Golden Age. The English navy suffered some of its most major defeats at the hands of the Dutch in this period. The Netherlands only became a totally irrelevant joke nation in the 18th century.
William Fisher
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Andrew Wilson
Most Modern Day Turks are so blinded by patriotism that i doubt that they could even be rehabilitated by this point (Turkish Porkies are that successful in brainwashing them). The Worst part is Turkey is not the only country that has this problem, many Arabs states (more specifically the Gulf States where Wahhabism is prevalent) suffer from this problem as well and they are arguably worse than the Turks.
Besides i don't care if they got removed from the premises because they support capitalism and salafism anyways
Ayden Carter
How did we even end up in the situation where defending neoliberal free trade agreements, the displacement of workers towards the location where they can be exploited most efficiently, and the defense of reactionary outdated desert spooks became the appointed task of the Left whilst the Right gets to rail against it for the wrong reason?
Xavier Stewart
same way people in best korea are. shutting down the opposition and controlling the medias does work for controlling the masses.
heve you seen how the average north Korean behave when they see der great leader? this nuts!
Caleb Edwards
i hate to be banal but
Samuel Richardson
idpol
Jaxon Gutierrez
Even with cruise control you still have to steer.
Bentley Scott
This. Nobody else in history ever went up the Thames and sunk the Brits' capital ship. t. brit
When people are totally idpoled, they are easier to recruit to be agents of the bourgeoisie, these agents have one purpose and one purpose only, to continue the idpol fire so to further divide the lower and middle classes in the hopes of getting extra muh privileges.
And you know what the scary part of this is, nobody would suspect a thing about it.
Jackson Rivera
There's only one solution my dude: support the PKK and their revolution to abolish the Turkish state.
Christopher Martin
Holland YES!
Asher Lopez
Is there anyone pushing harder for WW3 than Erdogan?
There are plenty of Turks that don't agree with this. But peer pressure is a powerful thing. Turkey today is like East Germany: relatives ratting each other out if they insult the Dear Leader.
I don't know though if at this point things can be turned around by directly attacking the Turkish state. Any sort of reaction just seems to fuel more patriotardism and enable another round of crackdowns. Just like Syria, the state needs to burn before people can come to their senses.
It's unnerving that there exists a whole nation of genocide deniers. It's not like Holla Forums where it's mostly edgy nazis on the internet. I'm seriously worried that if the PKK doesn't win they will slaughter the Kurds.
Hunter Diaz
they'll just killing as many as they can under the pretext of war (relatively little given the number of Kurds in Turkey) and forcefully assimilate the rest
Elijah Robinson
Is Anzu an Erdogan supporter?
John Brown
Finnish girls have the most attractive personality.
Carter Hughes
because when people get into petty arguments like that they wanna just show which is better.
Kevin Wilson
Not bad to be perfectly honest
Hunter Adams
It mainly shows puberty
Ayden White
Why just armenian genocide? Recognize assyrian and greek genocide too. Three genocides in a span of 13 years. Hitler would be proud.
Austin Walker
Is no one going to respond to my bait?
Landon Gray
As long as Europe keeps supporting Turkey, Erdogan can basically do whatever he wants.
Kurds may have a field day though. Armenians probably too.
Daniel Stewart
Erdogan is really something else lol
Blake Baker
What of those that choose not to integrate?
Joshua Barnes
Does she look like an Erdoğan supporter? Do parents, who subsidise her weeb behaviours through allowances seem the kind of parents who support Erdoğan to you?
Isaiah Bennett
From what I understand, they have two citizenships(Turkish and Dutch). Take away the Turkish so that they cannot vote for the upcoming referendum and deport whoever is being a fucktard nationalist. Problem solved.
t.turk
wew lads
If given the choice, most would give away their Turkish citizenship just so they can live in the netherlands.
Asher Russell
oh and here is a map representing what party people voted for in the 7 June 2015 elections. They are actively hurting Turkey as well
Red represents the CHP Purple represents the HDP aka kurdish party Yellow represents the AKP aka Erdogan
Gavin Davis
Unironically just bomb the mecca
Liam Myers
this
Ian Hall
Well, I wouldn't be surprised if rich people are content with the status quo.
I need to know if I can keep fapping to my favorite turkish weeb in good conscience.
Zachary Roberts
Disgusting faggot.
Josiah Brooks
dumb nazbol poster
Sebastian Robinson
What is Erdogan's endgame? He seems totally unhinged and irrational.
Brandon Torres
anprim
Nathaniel Peterson
Kill Dutch porkies and maybe your government Kill Erdogan
Then offer one of your own. Judging by this thread, there is no solution that will effect the change you want. But that's because you come from a fundamentally non-Left position, in that you're trying to find a solution that involves your nation persisting.
How selfish of you. How nationalist of you. How racist of you. The Turks are right. Nazism must be stamped out of Holland once and for all, and the Big Turkish Cock will do the stamping.
Eat shit, right white pigs.
Austin Wright
You want Dutch workers to pay for it and turn against the immigrants? They've had enough of the Liberal bullshit already
Easton Miller
Actually Trump would say you need to fight your own war, NATO & EU.
Matthew Myers
No, you simply ban all further Turkish immigration. They are of course too pussy to do it.
Ryan Gray
Fuck off
Jayden Cooper
And because the EU is so shit the Dutch can't look after their own interest with sanctions.
Ian Lewis
Set up European PKK
Eli Ortiz
Ocalan will decapitate the devil Erdogan in the center of Rojava.
Dominic Howard
I can attest to this.
Evan Turner
Stelletje economisten hier, zijn jullie soms neoliberaal ofzo?
Lincoln Parker
They should keep being a pussy until the referendum.
Oliver Evans
dit is wel heel verdacht
Evan Cook
Yes, I want the government to pay for an integration program which actually works and doesn't create an impoverished lower class of indebted foreign nationalists who can't even speak the local language. Fuck me, right? And no, everyone here adores liberalism, seeing how they keep voting the most right wing of the lot into power and even the 'left' voters always go for the social liberal option. And then they bitch when their social services get fucked and the immigration problem is never resolved.
Ian Evans
Turks and Marocs are not your friends and never will be. They will always be first for their own people. They never should have been allowed to enter in the first place, they are completely counter to your culture. Them being sterilised and/or deported immediately is the answer.
Otherwise they will continue to breed like flies, continue to eradicate your culture. The Netherlands was a nice and unique country in the 80s still. Now in some parts it is just another arab colony, stinking rags and filth.
Nathan Jones
I see nationalism as glorified tribalism. Which is the reason I don't see the turkish as some evil, but rather as a bunch of brainwashed fools, same for the dutch nationalists. This whole problem wouldn't exist if we'd reject any form of authority or identity based on nationality, but that is not a realistic solution here. Also I said that hacking the referendum and killing Erdogan are reasonable solutions. Also by that logic Leninism was to be considered non-left.
Zachary Cox
clearly b8
Mason Myers
I hope everyone here realizes this I get that a lot of this "exterminate turkroach" type shit is just ironic banter or whatever, but it gets pretty questionable sometimes. There are decently strong Turkish leftist groups they (with the PKK/YPG) are the only real ones who can deal with Erdogans bullshit
Isaac Mitchell
At that point you could just throw them out tbf
Justin Lewis
It will become genuine over time, imageboard's law.