Marine Le Pen

What are your thoughts on Marine Le Pen in terms of economic and foreign policy?

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Isn't she a SocDem? I don't know if she'd do some BS ban like Trump or just shut all the borders down…

I assumed she was similar to Nigel Farage, but she doesn't seem so big on the free market.

with the likes of farage, le pen, wilders etc no one really knows or cares what they propose beyond getting rid of immigrants.

Shes the Hillary Clinton of France.

No.

I wouldn't say she's the Hillary of France; that would be Fillon.
Well she says it with a somewhat leftist twist, unlike Farage, who's a straight up neo con, and Wilders who is quite possibly a neo-nazi.

Her economic policy is bold and could either be a disaster or pretty great, but I doubt she'll be able to implement much since France is only semi-presidential.
French Nationalists have a long history of Anti-Americanism and she seems pretty cudly with putin so her foreign policy would be alright, probably less of a Zionist than Hollande too.

The EU needs to die. These right wing populists are a necessary step forward. Hopefully they will spell the end of the mainstream "left" and "right" and they can be challenged at the grassroots populist level from the left.

Her economic policy is just progressive.

I'll be first one to say that in spite of two-round system used by the French Republic that was enacted to keep her kind out, I wouldn't at all be surprised if she gets elected if she's against Macron. Never underestimate voter apathy and reactionaries.

"Cudly with putin" Ummmm, Putin is incredibly right wing. That's not a good thing.

She will not win. Its going to be shock treatment for those so stupid in the UK and the US that think their righ-wing fever will spread to Europe.

I'd say it's possible simply because the opposition is weak

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Macron & Mark Rutte my friend, We love the same old shit in Europe. WE DEMAND MORE!

or at least that's in my books.

He's a total Jewboo though, not one of the "support Zionism solely to get them out of Europe" types. A lot of his Anti Islamism is about defending liberalism rather than any kind of racial basis.

You can bet your ass that the moment she got into power she'd start "reforming" the labour laws to try and break the unions. Don't fall for it, fampai.

Frenchfag here, her program is a masquerade.

She grew up in the wealthiest Parisian suburbs, she is just a porky who use some kind of spectacular appeal to tradition and protectionism when she is invited on our media platforms in a talented way, thanks to her father and entourage who taught her how to be provocative but mainstream at the same time efficiently.
She manages to seduce some part of the working class and middle-class losers of the current political zeitgeist since 2012, because we are all tired of what is going on, like the Trump electorate I guess, and we definitely want something else, but we aren't ready to throw private property and the state out of the window right now.

Every candidate is shit. I would love to see Mélenchon at the head of our state, because he is a socdem and that would be still better than another neoliberal like Macron or Fillon, or a "muh tradition"/Putin-style of capitalist like Le Pen, but the experience of SYRIZA was disappointing from 2,600 km away, and I'm afraid it will be the exact same. Anyway, I can't vote this election, so, we will see, inch'allah :^)

Whatever, I will still be a depressed alcoholic NEET at the end of the day, and feel the feel when I will never drink all night in the streets of Paris with Guy Debord and Raoul Vaneigem while they teach me how Hegelian dialectics are revolutionary.

Don't forget that her father was leader of her party and she's preparing her daughter to do the same, as if their party is some sort of propriety to be passed from generation to generation. if that's not some porky shit right there…
btw what this board doesn't seem to realize is that these people don't want to be elected in the first place. it's their job and delight to be the opposition, as long as they're in the parliament they're golden.
don't get me started, I still feel sad about it.

anyways, I don't usually like the french but as your neighbour I'm so proud of what you guys did when they passed that work reform. that kind of shit hasn't happened here in decades.

Shit like this makes me wishes that I could embrace you as a brother, mon amis.

Zionists are nazis.

Don't worry there is always hope for France. The spirit of 1789, 1848, and 1968 lives on in the people.

Yeah, I remember 2002.
This, so much this.
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To be frank, I mostly stayed alone in my student room in the mid-sized city I live in, and didn't offered much support, but I'm glad this happened too.
It's kinda Bernie Sanders. I mean, as much as you can hate him for being a socdem, he was the one who made "socialist" not a taboo word anymore in the US. And I'm glad for that.
But yeah, it was kinda an happening where you realize a lot of people think kinda like you out there. And it sparked some discussions among young adults you wouldn't have expected to have in your daily life.
The idpol meme and having no friends (and alcohol, and the blandness of the city centers we see almost everyday) depressed me at the time, but, yeah… I don't know what to say anymore….


Merci, friendo :)


I hope so, it would be cool if the spark would come from us.

Neo Sans-Culottes when?

I just want to be able to still be an ignorant fuck when it comes to Euro languages, but yet still have some prestige when I will visit other European countries.
Maybe speaking the same language as the people who will bring worldwide luxury automated sexual communist is gonna be helpful

your heart was in the right spot and that's enough for me, comrade.

But yeah, it was kinda an happening where you realize a lot of people think kinda like you out there.
I know, I don't like your average smashie but what happened in france last year was nothing of the sort, it was much bigger and greater and I respect you guys so much for that. It was one of the few sparks of hope I saw in the last years.

have a song because i feel like it youtube.com/watch?v=WhVnsws4hYo

>have a song because i feel like it youtube.com/watch?v=WhVnsws4hYo
Thanks, I should explore more what CCCP Fedeli alla linea has to offer (and more Italian music, like, Lucio Battisti…?), and their French is perfect tbf.
Here are some of the most revolutionary songs I know tbh :
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bretty good shit friend, thanks.
depends on what you like, we have a bunch of fun stuff. never really liked battisti but a lot of people do.
in my experience the guy everyone and their mother know is de andré and a few of 70s prog bands like PFM, but I like to shill Banco del Mutuo Soccorso, Area and Stormy Six myself.
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awful human being

ftfy


peace is a good thing.

I'm really drunk and tired tbh, but I know those guys were friends with Fred Frith, Henry Cow, Etron Fou Leloublan, Univers Zero, etc, and some of those guys were definitely leftists….and the only album I've heard of the Stormy Six was pretty original and nice, more than a lot of Anglo stuff I've listened to (Un biglietto del tram ?)
VIVA EUROPA

Yup, that's them allright.

To be really honest, I'm just listening to Duster right now, especially their demos on the Experimental Dust comp, because the eternal Anglo brainwashed me with the internet, and I feel kinda lonely

She's not anti-immigration because of racism. She's anti-immigration because she understands capitalists will hire illegal workers for slave labor, pay them under the table and exploit them while there is no taxes to help these same people get services. Her economic platform is not about protecting French jobs by hiring French only. It's about making sure those displaced are treated fairly and assimilated properly to avoid human trafficking and becoming indebted to either neighborhood mobs of their own ethnic groups and rich capitalists.

Non, wesh, l'immigration c'est bien
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Parlay voo Frahnsay. Speak English frog.

I just wanted to say that North African immigration is the best thing that ever happened to us :)
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Nouvelle droite is never against capitalism.

Don't care about that shit, she just has THE most punchable face I've ever fucking seen.

there you go

Nope, it's M. le President Macron who's the Hillary of France. And like her he'll lose.