Afrocentricists

Are they /ourguys/ or not? Also, if we accept one must have a national consciousness before they can have a proletarian consciousness, can Afrocentricism be used to our benefit?

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That has to be a troll account.

Miss me with that gay shit

They also think whites like dogs because we interbred with wolfes in the past.

not, black israelite lunatics are a special kind of retarded.

It's not. Here's the video where it was posted:
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She's right.

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You consider Palestinian and South African resistance to be "idpol" too?

All NATIONAL liberation movements are. Doesn't mean they are wrong to seek liberation though.

These people legitimately want to commit a "peaceful" genocide as revenge.

Revelations 13:10 man. WHITE DEVILS.

Hoteps and Black Israelites are the funniest people on earth

What are Hoteps?

I'm Jewish.

That is NOT a real Hebrew name.

No they're literally just niggernazis

בתוהאהובהשלי

Bathuhaahubahshli

Literally jibberish.

Never mind, it's: בת והאהובה שלי (my beloved daughter).

Fucking dipshits cannot into grammar.

Race is a social construct

Racism is prejudice + POWER you sinner.

Here comes whitey trying to steal credit from the true Jews.

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#Stay Woke

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African nationalists.

Afrocentrism is black Holla Forums with Haile Selassie or Mandela as the head.

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Afrocentrism is only good to laugh at. So many spooked to hell new age faggots who believe in tribal nigger astronauts and that Africans came from the stars.

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What the heck do you think?

Afrocentrism is shit, pan-Africanism is not.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nkrumaism

Thankfully wikipedia now exists and the history of yakub can no longer be hidden by the jews.

I especially like the part where gorillas are white people who tried to "re-graft" in to the black race.

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This woman writes like a second grader.

Wow, what a racist, sexist and ageist comment! I'm sure many second graders are not retarded cunts.

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South Africa under the ANC is one of the most unequal countries in the world. "National" liberation liberates the nation, by which is meant the bourgeoisie.

Don't Afrikaaners still control something like 80% of South Africa's wealth?

Not sure on the exact percentage, but it's quite high. And now there's a black bourgeoisie too - while the average prole hasn't really seen life change.

b2pol

Do you think the same thing will happen in Palestine too, assuming the Palestinians win back all of their 48 lands?

It's already happening, and I don't see how "victory" would change that. The PFLP is a heck of a lot more marginal than the CASP and COSATU were.

I thought the PFLP was the third biggest Palestinian party?

Exactly. :^)

meaning: there's only three real palestinian parties (fatah, hamas, pflp).

The other problem with Palestine is the fact that most Israeli Jews (something like 65-70% in fact) are of Mizrahi ancestry, so what do you do about them? They're Arab on the outside, but Zionist settler-colonials on the inside. Does a future Palestinian government try to bring them back to their Arab roots as part of a pan-Arabist program or not?

Also, the group with the highest birthrates are Orthodox and Ultra-Orthodox Jews. What becomes of them?

A democratic state for everyone who lives there doesn't have that problem; Palestine need not define itself as Arab.

But how do you solve the mass inequality that exists between Palestinians and Jews? That's the real question. Palestinians will no doubt want to recover the homes and farm lands they lost in '48, which would entail a large-scale land reform.

You pass a large-scale land reform, and include the Arab bourgeoisie among the targets, and Jewish proles among the beneficiaries.

The problem is, the Palestinian NB, who will most certainly be the ones governing that ODS, aren't going to carry something like that out. If they do, it will most likely be strictly on racial/national lines instead of economic ones, basically just like Mugabe.

You're not wrong, but this is why national liberation isn't real liberation.

It's really too bad the Palestinian resistance which is the most active isn't even close to being socialist anymore. It's not like the existing PFLP is supporting Rojava eithter (pretty sure they've come out in support of Assad).

Jesus Christ I fucking hate this board.

I'm sorry.

The Palestinians might be moved by Trump's aggression to organize a third intifada. The problem is the lack of organization at this point means it would be formless. The question, therefore, of how it can enforce demands or, potentially, build political power, remains murky. I think the best scenario is that a socialist organization, encompassing both Palestinian and israeli workers, pushes specifically for an intifada. I don't think any direct action can succeed for the palestinians without the support of israeli proles though.

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This is one thing which pisses me off about a lot of anti-Zionism/pro-Palestine ideology: it just assumes all Israelis (including proles, Jews who arrived as refugees, the ultra-orthodox who live off government benefits, Mizrahi or Ethiopian Jews who have historically faced discrimination) are essentially the same, and are all too "evil" to deal with. It's like, if you can expose someone or some group as being the devil incarnate, there's no reason to investigate them further or think up a solution aside from expelling or severely punishing them. And that's the problem: it becomes a giant revenge fantasy, rather than a means of resolving contradiction. Even as far as "punishment" goes, a just punishment isn't about "giving people what they deserve" but bettering societal conditions overall. Yeah, Ashkenazim aren't going to be sent back to Europe - that's just what the Palestinians will have to deal with. The best thing they can do is make alliances with Israeli leftists and go from there.

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Not even close.

Take this into account as well: the Palestinian NB would never, ever do a land reform, because it would want to keep all of those Israeli firms (especially the tech companies) in-place for the sake of development and national morale. As it is, Israel puts a shitload of money into developing technology, and there's no way in hell the new Palestinian ruling class would want to see all of that go. For comparison, after the USSR broke up the newly-capitalist republics suffered a tremendous amount of brain-drain from so many Soviet scientists and engineers leaving (as the USSR also put a lot of resources into R&D, and when the country dissolved all the funding dried up). The Palestinians won't want that so they'll allow for Israeli scientists and tech firms to keep doing their thing - certainly at Palestinian proles' expense.

I'd like black liberation cooperating with everyone. Like a BPP remix
Hoteps and black Israelites are super similar to nerd right and zionists
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