Discussion about the porn industry

Do you think it endorses the rape culture?
Would you ban porn because most of it degrade women?

Would you approve a sane and structured porn industry? (Health-Care for actors and actress etc…)

If so, would you make illegal the act of uploading your own porn since it breaks the bases of the "sane and structured porn industry"?

imo: I would ban any non-regulated porn or at least control it while it would be perfectly legal to porn companies who compromise to give their actors good health-care and make everything consensual and being possible stopping in the middle of a scene if one of the actors starts feeling either physical or psicological problems.

All industries are bad tbh.

we need porn worker's councils

All porn should be banned.

If so, why?

who /addictedtopornandvirgin/ here?


No I don't think it endorsed rape culture.
No.

Yes, very much so. The physical and mental health of the performers should be secured.

no
no
no

That's a new one. Is it another imaginary fixed concept that frightens people into behaving contrary to their material interests?

Are porn actors and prostitutes proletariat or lumpens?

Proles

I think the workers should seize of the production.
Also

Sage for liberal shit.

they are workers, who have nothing to sell but their labor
thus, proletariats

brings out the worst in people


i'd be more concerned with the health of people watching that shit

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Well, I can only speak for my own mental health and I don't think it had much of a positive impact. But it still feels so good. I don't know if that makes much sense.

how can porn bring the worst of the poeple if its a dick moving in and out a fucking wet cavity

porn industry is dying anyway
piracy and amateur content is killing it
people just like to see fucking
everybody has a dick or a pussy and a camera
things like /r/gonewild and chaturbate are big for feminism because they put the power (and monetary value) of sexuality in the hands of the women as opposed to filthy exploitative capitalist producers

So will they exist under socialism? Engels said that after capitalism destroyed women won't be needed in selling themselves to rich and men won't be needed in buying them. Will builders of communism be so hight moral or there will be kinda free prostituses?

To be fair, some actors (James Deen or Nacho) come across as dicks.

All porn must be banned.

Life is too easy when you have instant access to dopamine like that.

Also it encourages anti social behavior

well there's plenty of data coming out that it's having negative effects on people's self image and sexual behaviour.


idk what do you think? you seem to be simultaneously opinionated and uninformed.

But i'm NEET and I have never had gf. So if porn'll be banned i'll need to become rapist or become a wageslave and pay to prostitutes

imo I don't think it brings the worst out of people.
It can crave ideas into the peoples mind like fucking is the only thing that matters, but, in a sane person, looking at a couple fucking doesn't give you the instinct of raping someone.

You're just masturbating, you're not hurting anyone, you're consuming a product.

good

What's good about being a rapist or supporting prostitution?

No it does not endorse rape culture(whatever that is)
Absolutely not, they probably enjoy being degraded and we should not deny them of that pleasure.

JUST SAY THAT YOU WANT TO CASTRATE ALL MEN SINCE THAT SEEMS TO BE THE AGENDA ON THIS THREAD AND THAT ANTI-PROSTITUTION THREAD.

it will help the revolution more

Prostitution =/= porn

I mean, in one you're just watching, in the other you're paying for someone to do a service, prostitution is not bad (if it's regulated)

Fun fact I made this thread because a fucking radfem started accousing me of being a rape supported because I posted a fucking porn gif on twitter

One matter to consider here is that only ~65 years ago, there were lots of "experts" who were 100% certain that letting youths listen to rock-n-roll music would make them degenerate… And yet science is moving towards the conclusion that what we call "free will" is probably a very small factor in our behavior, if it is a factor at all. Studies of twins separated at birth seem to indicate that your tendencies are set mostly before you are born, with maybe a small influence in the months or 1-2 years after.

Another matter to consider here is that the only reason that porn is considered to be different than any other kind of entertainment, is because of early-middle-ages puritan Christian values saying so. Before that, obscenity as a concept didn't really exist. And if you don't believe in religious law, why would you give a shit about Christian values?

Great brocialist rapist revolution or what?

Is prostitution socialist?

Probably not in their current form.


Holla Forums pls


this 2bh

/liberalpol/ pls go

I guess
You're paying a person to do a service in the end it's like paying your neighbours son to take out the dog when you don't want to

turned out they were right

That picture you posted is pure Holla Forums trash, m8.

>>>/liberalpol/

You really think the industry operates at a loss?

he's right, shut up

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nou

i know for a fact that porn is selling a lot less now than in the 90s and early 00s and the industry is downsizing in a big way

That's not because of piracy, it's because amateur porn uploaded to pages like xvideos or motherless

my understanding of part of what's ended up happening is the porn companies have actually ended up getting bought by pornhub types and like everything else on the internet are basically just a way to deliver adviews

i'm pretty sure 9/10s of what gets watched on xvideos is just uploads of professional porn aka piracy

i mentioned both of those things you clown
i used piracy as a general term for infringement of copyright law and also to include the reuploading of industrial porn to tube sites

no need to be hostile chill, then both of you would be okay with the abolition of current /porn/ and go full on chaturbate // /r/gonewild style porn?

yes the porn industry is actually a pretty interesting from a capitalist standpoint, because its actually highly competitive and forces constant competition and innovation

so theyve shifted to using new tech (big studios have VR now) and trying to earn the majority of their money from ad views as opposed to dvd or subscription money

that would be the best possible outcome from a feminist and an anticapitalist point of view, in my opinion
aside from the fact that gonewild/chaturbate also have a capitalistic element to them, as i said before, they put the power into the hands of the creators and prevent exploitation in that way

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Earning $500/hour by having sexual intercourses (people evolved to enjoy) isn't really what I'd call a degradation or oppression. It's no like anyone is physically stopping those women from going to uni or getting a cashier job at the local super market. You're being a pure christianfag here OP


Nah…

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the big money might not be in the sales production side of things but it wouldn't surprise me if the sheer volume watched is at an all time high given that internet on a phone is now a thing

Porn is just a prostitution + cameras, where's the problem?

Referring to this part


I actually like both porn and prostitution in a capitalist and social way

true
although i think its a fair assumption that a lot of the ad money made from porn tube sites never finds it's way back to the people who made it, although that would be impossible to know exactly

my initial idea was that the porn production industry would continue in its decline unless there was a serious effort made towards centralization or even regulation

Who's your favourite pornstar, Holla Forums?

Selling to whom?
Most people consume porn from sites like pornhub. You think it's 100% piracy? It's not.

My fault, I'm after a few beers.

"rape culture" only exists in prisons. It has nothing to do with porn.

no worries, but I can see your point, porn-actors still have free will

Honestly the fact that threads like this aren't dismissed as obvious bait is just one example of why the left will never get anywhere in its current form. Good luck endlessly arguing about the best way to strip away people's rights.

Shit it would be so cool to be the first country with a Porn Tsar

hoyl shit boss can you read

Only in third world (and US) prisons

Those people are filthy casuals!

theres absolutely nothing wrong with looking at this industry and how it, like all modern industry, exploits people
theres also nothing wrong with admitting that some themes and concepts in mainstream porn could have negative effects on the way people perceive and treat women

>>>/nofap/

Try typing the reason why the porn industry still exists despite nobody buying anything anymore and I'll try reading it.

also i never said the industry was completely already dead. this started happening about 10 years ago and takes time.
all i said was that the traditional method of producing porn for the past 60 years is becoming uneconomical due to competition from amateur porn, and other things (piracy) and thats ultimately a good thing, because the established porn industry is horrible for a ton of reasons

i dont even understand what your disagreement is, it seems like youre just being pedantic for no reason

Yes, that's what I was implying. So congrats I guess?

legitimately what
is english your first language?

I don't think porn endorses a rape culture, only real fucked in the head dudes can't separate a staged sexual act from reality.

As to degrading women, I think porn of all the sex industries probably does the least harm. Stripping and prostitution are worse IMO, porn is basically just being paid to have sex on camera.

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Leave my gay porn alone.

I think it'd be more interesting to talk about porn we hate. Lanskyshit is vanilla as fuck and everyone looks bored senseless. Janice Griffith is the worst grill to have ever taken a dick on camera and I hate dudes who can't keep their dick up.