Elon Reeve Musk (/ˈiːlɒn ˈmʌsk/; born June 28, 1971) is a South African-born Canadian-American business magnate...

Well he seems like a pretty cool gu-
Are there any rich people who aren't blathering fucking retards?

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Do you want them to publicly say they want to keep proles exploited using a mix of right and left wing liberalism?

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The so-called "depraved" elites that certain factions of Holla Forums go on about. The people whose parties supposedly fueled the fears of paranoid schizophrenics like Stanley Kubric and all sorts of conspiracy theorists.

The thing that really rustles my jimmies is the unbridled nationalism and a-historicism he fucking spews. Like holy shit, the U.S saved democracy in WW1? What the fuck?

Musk is honestly such a dangerous person , him and peter thiel. America worships silicon valley it's gross.

I actually love Musk and I love this type of rich person because 1. they're dumb enough to throw all their money into risky new technologies and 2. they don't have any pretense about not being total pieces of shit

So I think there's a reasonable accelerationist point to be made about how we'd all gain if people like Thiel and Musk became the norm for rich people, and all the liberal billionaires who pretend to be humanitarian and invest their money conservatively were gone. We'd have flying cars in 15 years and socialism in 30.

bourgeoisie science larping

Ikr right, I remember that time when Holla Forums came here to whine how the top 8 billionaires are mostly democrats when they often advocate shit like consumption taxes and free trade.
Republicans just such stupid drooling fucks that even the an Ancap Billionaire would vote for Bernie Sanders to avoid the kind of PR that you get from people advocating "the sanctity of marriage"

I understand that, the revolution would become infinitely more likely if the rich acted as class conscious as they actually are

That's just publicity, there is nothing about him that is libertarian. Pure pork


wouldn't Holla Forums have called them Jews?

who would that be?

Elon is one of the good guys. He supports basic income.

totally worth it then, get to work on the statues

Sure, if you ignore that he tries to terrorize his workers out of unionizing (MUH UNION SPIES), his delusional opinions of himself and the USA, and the fact that he just seems like an all-around cunt.

he will be at the back of queue into gulag

Sounds better than intervening to make sure the Entente would be able to pay back their loans.

LOL

hope he dies in a rocket explosion tbh. it'd be karmic, and funny.


In truth I kind of hate him for the potential SpaceX has. If getting into space becomes cheap, we might wind up with galactic neoliberalism, which is an "end state" worse than human extinction.
(And also because my latent SocDem is fucking pissed that he's doing it instead of NASA, and that iirc NASA has to contract him privately since their own launch capability has been hacked back.)

Labor unions are the universal tell for insufficient leftism, the perfect canary in the coal mines. Musk, Bezos, Jobs, Gates, even Lenin. Any supposed leftist opposed to labor unions has a dagger up their sleeve ready to jam into your spine.


Honestly, the entire capitalist system that has stagnated humanity's political development is IMHO exclusively the result of our Age of Exploration stalling. If we escaped from our ball of mud, porky would be completely incapable of compelling anybody to put up with their antics ever again.

If infinite space is the prole victory endgame, what's porky's, then?

The "worse than extinction" fate I fear is if, before interstellar colonization happens, the transhumanism puzzle is cracked and we understand how the brain works, resulting in some permutation of mind control or superhuman intelligences enslaved to porky's will.

He'll probably have a galaxy named after him, to be honest.

top kek

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But his name is shit.

democracy was a fucking mistake

Well considering that major Entente powers like Russia weren't democracies, and major Central Powers like Germany were, I'd say this is an ahistorical load of shit.

So nothing separates him from all of the smug honchos running Silicon Valley huh?

what exactly has he achieved? has he done any work in the proliferation of electric cars or spurred some new form of space travel? i'm still wondering how he got his billions, people driving Tesla cars are very few and between

he made a rocket that lands itself on a barge so that you can re-use it.
actually a pretty useful thing. still a cunt.

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I should probably thought about the ideological implications before intentionally oversimplifying to a childish level for not-quite-comic-but-in-the-general-area-of-comic effect.

Despite this reading like I've drawn it out as an implied insult along the lines of "you're taking it too seriously", I mean everything I've said at face value.

Alienation is objective, all those hours belong to him, he paid for them.

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I think his money comes from PayPal. He's listed as a co-founder.

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Fucking when? Germany was less democratic than France and arguably England, but it still was a democratic country. And I hardly see the United States defending democracy in the English and French colonial empires after WW1, or even promoting it in the Ottoman Empire. And let's not get started about the Polar Bear Expedition to prop up an army of shitty far-right monarchists, OK?


And whose fault was WW2? Hmm, let's look at some culprits. Was it the irresponsible financial elite who caused the global crash that opened space for fascism? Or the reactionary American government that stopped providing financial assistance for Germany's war reparations (that America allowed to happen after WW1, mind you) and set the stage for the collapse of the relatively progressive Weimar Republic and the rise of Hitler? How about Henry Ford and his Nazi donations? I'm not really seeing that there.


Remember, it's only democracy if they elect people that we like. In the narrowest sense of the word, I'm sure defending democracy was why they sent hundreds of thousands of American troops to prop up a corrupt crackpot junta in Vietnam or backed Chiang Kai-Shek's collapsing dictatorship in China, or propped up Western colonial empires. In a broader sense, they had no respect for it as an institution. From their sabotaging the fair and democratic campaign of the Italian Communist Party in 1946 and preventing the election of Europe's first Communist government to their shenanigans in Chile, they demonstrated how few shits they actually gave about democracy to the point where they let foreign dictatorships assassinate political opponents on American soil


lmao

teal dear elon musk is a historical illiterate

IE he's basically just a cuddlier Peter Thiel, who he worked with.

Fuck this guy.

reminder that elon only remembers the nightmares

borderline megalomaniac, the stalwart of capitalism

How stupid do you have to be?

This guy is just a frontman for the families. More obvious than Bezos even, Musk is the poster boy for global communism.

where did this meme come from?

From the "socialism is big gubmint" meme.

If NASA had more funding
Anyway it's best this way. Competition's a good mechanism for this kind of technology

feck off

In this context? It does
Imagine NASA being the only organization allowed to research space tech. We'd be fucked. Variety and cooperation works best than monopolies.
Also I didn't say capitalism breeds innovation you mongol nomad. Only for this tech, in this context.

Not really, disposable rockets are cheaper
Plus, that tech has been around for a long ass time

All that Musk does it take technology from the 70s, give it a good marketing campaign, and then get government contracts and subsidies
He's a fucking parasite

NASA had 4% of the national budget when we got to the moon.

Today they only have 0.51%

Imagine what we could do if NASA had 8% right now.

NASA invented most of the tech being used by these companies. There is no innovation here. The companies just have more funding and a more clearly defined goal.

Again, I didn't say capitalism breeds innovation. Whatever.

NASA, much like the military, or other large government agencies, has spent the overwhelming majority of its R&D funds from day 1 on private contractors. Lockheed-Martin, Boeing, Douglas, Rockwell… SpaceX is nothing new. And guess who SpaceX's greatest source of funding is?

I'd prefer that. It'd make them more obvious enemies of workers.

don't forget guatemala in 1954, arbenez wasn't even remotely prosoviet, (apart from accepting help from the ussr when he knew the yankees where about to fuck his shit up), didn't stop the cia from killing him and replacing him with a junta

Once space travel becomes cheap it is end game for capitalism. Enforcing private property rights within the solar system alone will be impossible

One of the tech cults of personality I hate the most is Elon Musk's.

David and Charles Koch - the greatest threats to humanity as of right now, and seeing as they managed to elect GWB instead of Al Gore, they've already done most of the damage they could have.

I know, it's normally the realm of liberals to complain about them, but they are a real problem. In fact, if humanity ends due to climate change, I'd chalk it up to the success of those couple of bourgie fuckers.

I don't have the data to hand, but even if disposables are cheaper now you're eventually going to hit a stage where reusability pays off, especially for plinking satellites into LEO.
I won't pretend it's groundbreaking, mind you. NASA could easily have done likewise but for budget hacking.


How? If my vague understanding is correct, it only takes 5 hours from light from the sun to hit Pluto. In turn, that should render communication with even a Pluto colony about as good as communication around the British empire in the 1800s, and better by far than that available to the Spanish empire before then.

id gladly join Elon Musk cult
this man seems to actually make sacrifices necessary to get things like solar to work

Intrastellar is just going to be baby steps at best (though asteroid mining might be economically disruptive enough that other political forces could upend capitalism the same way it took advantage of the industrial revolution).

The real endgame is interstellar colonization, infinite riches for infinite people, even if FTL is impossible there are hundreds of solar systems within 30 lightyears.

Lol

What has he ever "sacrificed" in his entire life

Dunno man, I'd say the Kochs have never been a match for Soros.

Which reminds me, one of the few good things I can think of Trump is that he pisses off all of them.

oh boy, you're in for a disappointment.

Here's the first red flag:
What a fag. Humans are shite, let us go extinct.

I agree, there's something incredibly insidious about what he's doing, he's taken a few tenets from Popper and is just pushing full global capitalism with a liberal face.

Other people's wages.

Yeah, that stood out for me too.
"We're living on a planet that will eventually destroy itself, which raises some serious concerns. Don't worry, I am a genius and have the perfect solution: We put people on a different planet. That's people on two planets at once. I have saved the human race."

Space communists will launch rock swarms from their socialist pirate stations to destroy the imperialist settlers.

Does anyone think he looks a bit like Mussolini in that pic?

He's not referring to ongoing things like environmental decay (which I doubt could plausibly cause humanity to go extinct, nor even seriously cripple civilization), but to catastrophes like a meteor impact. Unlikely as it is, having sustainable human settlement confined to one planet is an excessive and needless risk.

Social Democrats.