The end of line

i now realize that we will never acheave our goal, not because its wrong or flawed but because most people are spooked and dumb.
they prefer short answers, even if those answer are wrong

not sure why it took me so long to get. maybe hope.

75% of the world is religious, let that sink in for a moment.
75% of the world put feels over reals.
thats just the tip of the iceberg, people who are spooked and visibly lack critical thinking skills.

our message doesn't concern them, hell they can't even understand it and for the most part they don't want to.

what to do now?

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"The foundation of irreligious criticism is: Man makes religion, religion does not make man. Religion is, indeed, the self-consciousness and self-esteem of man who has either not yet won through to himself, or has already lost himself again. But man is no abstract being squatting outside the world. Man is the world of man – state, society. This state and this society produce religion, which is an inverted consciousness of the world, because they are an inverted world. Religion is the general theory of this world, its encyclopaedic compendium, its logic in popular form, its spiritual point d’honneur, its enthusiasm, its moral sanction, its solemn complement, and its universal basis of consolation and justification. It is the fantastic realization of the human essence since the human essence has not acquired any true reality. The struggle against religion is, therefore, indirectly the struggle against that world whose spiritual aroma is religion.

Religious suffering is, at one and the same time, the expression of real suffering and a protest against real suffering. Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people.

The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is the demand for their real happiness. To call on them to give up their illusions about their condition is to call on them to give up a condition that requires illusions. The criticism of religion is, therefore, in embryo, the criticism of that vale of tears of which religion is the halo.

Criticism has plucked the imaginary flowers on the chain not in order that man shall continue to bear that chain without fantasy or consolation, but so that he shall throw off the chain and pluck the living flower. The criticism of religion disillusions man, so that he will think, act, and fashion his reality like a man who has discarded his illusions and regained his senses, so that he will move around himself as his own true Sun. Religion is only the illusory Sun which revolves around man as long as he does not revolve around himself.

It is, therefore, the task of history, once the other-world of truth has vanished, to establish the truth of this world. It is the immediate task of philosophy, which is in the service of history, to unmask self-estrangement in its unholy forms once the holy form of human self-estrangement has been unmasked. Thus, the criticism of Heaven turns into the criticism of Earth, the criticism of religion into the criticism of law, and the criticism of theology into the criticism of politics."
t. Garl Margs

Once the climate shit really starts to hit things will start to look different imo. Until then we build our support base and class consciousness.

The world is getting worse in the ways all of us predicted and the youth is more collectivist than they've ever been in decades upon decades fed up with the conditions given to them and a world that wants to fuck them over

I don't think it's the end

I think we're seeing the first signs of a very interesting point in American history.

So maybe stop insisting that people have to give up their spooks, it clearly isn't working

I swear you're the same poster who keeps making those 'workers are stupid' posts. Stop trying to justify your disdain for the downtrodden.

You are a bigger threat to the left than a thousand reactionaries.

Wait for the upcoming disaster.

Ebin

you missed the point, read again.

Reminder that these "what's the point" threads are an attempt by Holla Forums to get us to embrace bitter, pessimistic nihilism because it's the actual driving force behind their own politics

But that's only because those are the ideas, narratives and the Ideology that got to them before we could. Once we organize, we'll be able to set a genuine flow of critical information out there, and people will start seeing things our way. Not all of them at once, sure, it's a gradual and difficult process, but don't get hopeless.

Just keep reading, writing, debating and organizing, and don't fall into common traps like . "Things will eventually get bad enough for people to wake up!" and similar fatalisms are a genuine disease among leftists.

Is it really tho? I think we all feel like that every once in a while.

Obviously, but not in the "just give up" way that these bait threads go about it

Yes, the worst sort of criminals, the complicit victims.


Marx was such a one-dimensional man.

Also,


youtube.com/watch?v=FRTsInTXAgk

I don't see how that counters anything he was saying.

I agree! Defeatism is good!

fag

theanarchistlibrary.org/library/monsieur-dupont-nihilist-communism

For people who aren't drunk on ideology, deconstructing this statement of marx as replacing one spook with another, with the fundamental logic being left largely unchanged, does place it in a perspective that undermines it.

i'm no Holla Forumstard, they have hopes.

> we'll be able to set a genuine flow of critical information out there, and people will start seeing things our way.
assuming most people have critical thinking skills.
they don't, they take what makes them feel good.

Truly pathetic. What use does your pessimism serve anyway, cop?

This and this

Not that kind of nihilism you doublecuck


Literally anyone does that is not a retard, but critical thought is one of the most easily suppressed human behaviors

So your argument is Holla Forums memes you don't understand.

Okay then, fam.

Go the fuck back to Holla Forums, shill.
Remember, everyone: communism will win.

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I know that feeling. The epitome of hope for me nowadays is that the limits to growth was right and industrial society will hit a resource collapse situation.
Religion doesn't bother me either way, but interacting with the average voter is often enough to make you wonder why the fuck you wanted to save them in the first place.

I have a muslim friend who before the US election was a liberal, now he's a communist and he's still muslim. Spooked but still socialist.

Hi Cointelpro!

you do realise that in the 20th century the world was far more religious? And yet the communist movements were strong to a point were we had socialist countries and a strong appeal in capitalistic countries, religion is spooked as fuck but it doesn't necessary contradict with socialism

this.


reactionary.
he didn't become a commie because he was enlightened, he became a commie as a reaction to trumps election.
this isn't a rational shift, its an emotional one.

if people qre unable to understand the concept thats a problem.
communism was stringer back then because of the crowd effect, it was trendy and cool back then just like most Holla Forumstard think its cool to be and edgy rightwinger.
it has nothing to do with some sort of enlightenment or deep understanding because the masses can't do it.

tl;dr if we manage to get a commie in charge it will be becquse people are spooked by it too.
and thats verry depressing

Wouldn't he have doubled down on liberalism if that was the case?

Why do you post Monsieur Dupont when he doesn't just explicitly advocate for communism, but his Nihilist Communism explicitly defines it as post-market? Is it another attempt at showing the board how little you read?

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Any idea that depends on the virtues of people was dumb to begin with.

don't reply to anhil posters

rich fuckos are spook. wham bam you're halfway their