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What happened to Worker's Spatula?

And how much do you want to bet that the person posting this crap is white and from a liberal middle-income background?

tfw one of the most basic principles of socialism is actually bad for socialism now.
Thanks Idpol!

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Marx confirmed brocialist colonizer shitIord.

You're deliberately misinterpreting what he's saying.

I actually half agree with him but because he's a fucking edgy SJW liberal piece of shit he has to say it in such an obnoxious sexist, racist way

Honestly same

The brown Nazis on this board need to leave.

Thanks for not understanding what he's saying at all.
Think Indian reservations but for niggers

He's barely saying anything wrong, if at all. Good job showing solidarity, fuckstick.

Eat shit r/soc, how is being a divisive SJW showing solidarity towards me. They can suck my white cock.

For what purpose exactly?

Can't wait until most of these people become superfluous due to automation, maybe then the left will return to materialist analysis of capitalism and class struggle instead of endless hand-wringing over which group of third-worlders is oppressed more.

Is Bookchin a meme or not? Is he the new Stirner?

But he's not being "divisive."

At least Stirner gave us spooks. "Google Murray Bookchin" isn't really as good as this.

The half-formed point he was trying to make had nothing to do with white men really but he had to start shit anyway. If he's triggered about anti-nationalists on behalf of 'nationalism from below' then say that, why does it have to turn into another socjus screed.

Because the actually-existing left is almost entirely socjus screeds or disappointed social democrats worn down by the realities of global capitalism combined with socjus whining.

Now I can't even tell what kind of argument you're trying to make

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But these people really aren't very useful.

Which is exactly why we shouldn't stand for it?

When has anyone ever used Bookchin to justify white nationalism? What the fuck is this guy on about, the sanctity of Ba'athism or something?

He's saying that white anti nationalism is also racist because white people can't understand the struggles of the Kurds. Or something. Basically if youre a white male just don't have an opinion (never heard that one before)

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Bookchin is top tier theorist, that's what

I agree, but you won't have much of a left remaining if you purge all the social justice types. It is a serious problem. The left should have some kind of plan of action for issues that actually matter to the typical person like:

among other things, but instead of doing this we just fight over which side is correct to support in a given natlib movement and how supporters of the other side are racists because nationalism of oppressed races is actually socialist, I swear.

How are you going to get someone to give you power to run some aspect of their lives without coherent positions and plans of action issues like these?

The average person in an advanced economy could really not give two shits about the outcome of, say, the Syrian civil war, aside from being worried it will lead to a nuclear exchange between America and Russia. They're worried about how they are going to make enough money to sustain themselves. I don't think they're misguided here - the outcome of the Syrian civil war is imo utterly irrelevant.

It isn't much of a left anyway, so what does it matter.

I mean I agree we should try to appeal to people where they live but porky is basically rubbing his asshole in the average person's face right now and barely pretending not to be overtly evil but most people still give capitalism a pass except on their pet issues. Even the best workman can't make a great work of art out of of garbage. I feel like people have to meet us halfway but clearly they can't. Seems to me like most people just have a natural inclination towards the status quo which combined with bourg propaganda is unmovable.

Employment is fairly precarious nowadays, even in advanced countries. You can't exactly get away with agitating or getting arrested and except to have a career afterward. One fuck up and your life is basically over. A prospective employer can know everything about you. For most people, it's not worth the risk. Capitalists have all the bargaining power at this point because of the gigantic global reserve army of labor. Seriously, just think about how many people are basically uninvolved in the global economy, living in more-or-less undeveloped agrarian countries.

Even if all the third world labour is brought into the fold, automation will still prevent labour from overtaking capital. If we need high employment to reach socialism it will never happen. Porky knows as well as us that low employment gives him power.

Also, I'm not expecting everyone to go out and riot but even the number of people who silently support leftism and could mobilise at the critical moment is tiny.

Sorry I know we've gone slightly off topic, but yeah. I can't say I have a solution for everything but I do know the SJW shit does nothing but destroy any movement we could have.

i thought we had an e celeb quarantine?

No, integrating people from undeveloped economies will further weaken the bargaining power of labor.


With that said, we actually do want to turn third-world countries into advanced economies at some point, in theory. This is going to require moving jobs to these countries. How are you going to get people in advanced economies to go along with this? We have to reduce the size of the reserve army of labor. Obviously, we can't just go around killing people, so I think we need to slash the work week.

I meant if all third world labour is fully utilised/developed, that is they demand the same wages as westerners by this point.

Working week would be a good thing, working day too probably. Funny how we've somehow slipped back from 8/8/8 when we should be going the other way. I guess that's a reform that could work. I wonder why there isn't more of a push for it? Oh, and we should also ban second jobs.

because most leftists apparently want to just create jobs using the state (was it Jacobin that wanted a Federal job guarantee?), which basically can't run out of money provided it prints its own currency. however, this can backfire terribly, since once reactionaries figure this out, they can just create military jobs, jobs hunting immigrants, and so on. Donald Trump seems to grasp this idea.

Wait—I thought we were all agreed that nationalism is bad?

Wasn’t one of the pros of Rojava the fact that it is a multi-ethnic socialist experiment?

I mean I agree with that too, if the government can create industry directly we can just cut out the middleman and eventually create socialism.

I thought Worker's Spatula was a parody account tbh

I want idpol to be gone already.

are you the one they're sperging out over Bats?

This shit is the cancer that is killing the left. Bookchin even tried to warn us about this identitarian cancer.

yes, but you can tell this is serious

Workers Spatula has always been shit, this is just revealing its true nature.

I cannot stand the language the American "left" uses. Just bitter moaning about whitey 24/7.

Into the trash it goes.

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