Anti-Racist Action

Hahaha.

Slingshots are fucking nasty and can cause serious injuries.

To squirrels maybe.

You serious, mate?

Would you rather use a toy that children make out of elastics and sticks, or a deadly weapon used by every major ancient army?

I dunno, why not make a slingshot out of steel?

why not use guns if you're in the US.

But what if I'm not?

Slingshots are a a weapon that armies used. It wasnt invented as a toy.

Antifas reputation is 100% their own doing, not "alt-right propaganda". Believe it or not, most people right now don't really like gangs of masked kids making a mess and starting fights in their cities and neighbourhoods and don't really care what the kids political excuse is.

Anything that looks similar and acts similarly will be viewed the same way regardless of what they call themselves.

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Yeah yeah, the shills are everywhere, nice try schlomo, etc etc. Good work

Yet the Alt-Right wants to kill all Leftists and openly say they will hang us if they get the chance.

Not trying to sound like a full on lib.
But when you preach violence, don't expect to get a warm welcome.

I agree Antifa has gone overbaord here in the US. But I see their point of view too.
The Far-Right have gotten into the Alt-Right, thats just a fact to me at this point.

Sounds just right for use by the impoverished masses of workers.

You are fucking pathetic.

Everyone who doesn't like antifa is either Holla Forums or underage. Lil cunts don't have basic memory of shit that happened when neo-nazis were allowed to roam free.

Personally, I feel no shame performing DIY dentistry with my boot on a fascist.

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m8, literally the only people who DO like antifa are underage.

the alt-right don't DO anything. They shitpost. People hear about them on TV or social media and don't like them, but no one is out trying to get their errands done and being accosted by brownshirts and the association between the average MAGAfag and Actual Nazis is mostly a lib/left fantasy. The worst people will actually see of the alt-right is a frogposter ACKSHUALLYing them on twitter about niggers or commies or some shit or some dumb kids drinking milk on camera.

The image people have of antifa is goons who start throwing punches of vandalising shit because someone said or possibly, maybe, could be about to say something unsavoury. Or no reason at all. Sure, that comes from the media but anyone who has been to a rally or demonstration or even just been nearby to one when antifa showed up knows it's accurate. And some minor rebrand won't help - every who is actually engaged in politics enough to be on the street at a march or whatever knows what a bunch of kids in hoodies and masks is - it's the dumb cunts who'll get the cops riled up for no reason, start shit with people who mostly agree with their professed politics because some rumour started that there was a """nazi""" in the crowd and generally make asses of themselves. That's it.

Absolutely pathetic underage shitposting dude. You're all fags who think antifa is some actual organized group created in 2010 or some shit.
Remember the 80s and previous or fuck off.

Did you mean to reply to me? I'm pro-idpol.

Shit I mean pro-antifa

Mixed up my buzzwords, freudian slip i guess

I'm drunk and read "antifa fights free speech" and went off on ya because

m8 I've been actually been, in real life outside of my bedroom, encountering antifa at political events for 15+ years now. You know, really actually seeing people who identify themselves that way, talking to them face to face and dealing with the actual, physical result of their activity instead of just jerking off to riotporn on the internet.

Yes, different chapters do things differently and not every one is just full of spergs looking for an adrenaline rush, but it is painfully obvious you have zero hands-on experience here.

Because I'd call anyone who dislikes anti-fascist action either underage with no memory of actual fascists doing the things they tend to do or a fascist sympathizer? I'm going to have to disagree quite loudly.

But there is Far-Right Nazis that support Trump and have gotten into the Alt-Right to radicalize them.

Have you seen Holla Forums talking about that "Alt-Knight" guy that hit that one Antifa. They will soon radicalize the Alt-Right into Far-Right.

You can't just say "Alt-Right don't do anything" because they do. They spread Anti-Leftist hysteria, and the media never shows the Antifas being peacful, only when they find a cherry picked fight they start to roll the cameras.

Allways remember Carlos, Alexey Krylov, Timur Kacharava, Alexander R'Uhin, Ilya "Ugler" Borodaenko, Feodor "Fedjay" Filatov , Ivan Khutorskoy, Pavlos Fyssas, Kerstin Winter, Thomas Schulz, Jimi Joonas Karttunen, and all the others. Selfdefense is justified.

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t. the movement that calls everything it doesn't like "fascism"

no dude, because you're plainly speaking from a position of ignorance of what actually goes on outside your door, what a fascist is and what "antifascist action" usually consists of in real life in the 21st century.

Go join a party or activist org and do some actual organising or real world participation instead of just posting and see what you think in a year or two if you have the muh privilege of getting smacked with a baton or pepper sprayed because some dickheads thought an unopposed marriage equality demo was a great place to thrillseek by throwing shit at cops for no reason.

That sounds like pure alt-right nonsense to me.
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Where's the laughing girls image when I need it?

"Fascism" to antifa goons is practically "anything I don't like = fascism". They're attacking Trump supporters because HuffPo and Salon told them that Trump was fascist, I doubt many antifa could give you a coherent definition of what "fascism" even constitutes

Sounds a lot like someone upset that their rebranding didn't work is all I'll say.

Yes mate, anything that disputes your masturbatory little revolutionary daydream is nazi or alt-right.

And yes, whatever you think of the police as an institution, when the cops are just standing around wearing fucking Pride pins at a marriage equality demo that has no counter-protest, there is no reason to start shit with them.

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This isn't to say ALL Trump supporters are fascist but the ones that really, really like him 95% of the time are

I don't want to be racist anymore, fix me Holla Forums

Fuck off retard, antifa was never very popular here. You've done more damage to the left than Holla Forums could have dreamed of.

Yeah honestly it's pretty A++ how the whole "alt-right"/neoreaction thing (that the media loves to uphold) is crumbling under people calling them what they are

Consider visiting a foreign country. Or even hit the inner cities or something. You're not going to kill racism at a seminar, you're going to kill racism by interacting with other races. Or sometimes by consuming media about them.

Nobody complained until richard spencer got punched. Then the old gamergate topic of "M-MUH PUBLIC RELATIONS!" kept coming up like my grandma didn't laugh about that punch.

t. "This person is wearing a MAGA hat, obviously he's a fascist. How do I know this? I've seen several Twitter profiles of anime girls with MAGA hats advocating for the gassing of Muslims and Mexicans"

But daily interaction with other races is half of what made me racist

What, in school? In school people are just shitty. And so, obviously, is the guy robbing your car. Go somewhere you actually expect to have positive interactions. Maybe a soup kitchen or something? Public service?

Look antifanons you really do need to get over your fixation with the '30s and the Boomer hangover that it could happen again if we don't do anything!

FWIW, The Inevitable Defeat Of Mister And Pete is what finished killing off my prejudices against inner city poor ghetto folk but it's a really rough watch

Lol of course it's not going to happen any time soon, you kill weeds at the roots you don't let them grow while they're "harmless" that was a botched metaphor but you get the idea

Like throwing avowed leftists that might advocate for violent revolution from helicopters at night?

There were far-right Nazis who supported Reagan and Bush man. Real, actual fascists and nazis are so small and impotent even now that they have to be invented out of whole cloth for the sake of a media spectacle.

The left really needs to get it's head right out of it's arse and try to deal with the world as it is. This is not the 1930s and chances are you won't get to relive some half-fantasy version of the glorious battle against authentic fascism.

You know, it's not just the wannabe frogposting fash that are the reappearing historical farce, it's fucking us as well if what we're seeing now is the best we can do.

This

Who cares if the fascism is authentic or not.

Completely false, there were multiple antifa threads dating way back to the beginning of Holla Forums, often in the form of "so what do you guys think of antifa?" The general consensus was "liberal retards who beat up on normies and then call themselves leftists." There were always a few defenders, but mostly they were thought of negatively. This has nothing to do with Spencer, he's as hated on Holla Forums as he is here.

Slaughter all white people down to the last child. Anyone who objects to this is part of the problem. If you are white I don't expect you to kill yourself I guess but FFS don't fucking breed and realize you have no right to self defense.

Fascism is irrelevant in the modern world, but you can't deny the fact the Far-Right groups are becoming more normalized. Thats why the Antifa people are going crazy.

WE are dealing with the world as it is, the idpol "Left" fucked us. They are the ones that casue violence. But I see no problem with hating the Far-Right like Antifa do.

Go back Holla Forumstard.

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Oh little white boy don't wanna own up to his guilt.

Oh look, another leftypol LARP thread

I want this meme to end.

We have lived under idpol leftist all of our lifes. Your cheap imitations dont even pass on first glance.

don't false flag bro

They are becoming marginally more normalised because we live in a period of comparative instability and both extremes will tend to grow in such times. More than that, it gets clicks, it gets eyes on screens and it sells ads. "Far Left" groups, provided they are sexy enough, get the same treatment.

I mean, I hate to be a broken record on this, but go outside and do some street level politics. Go and talk to people. Yes, things are getting a bit weird and people are uncertain and anxious for a variety of reasons, but we are not in danger of a nazi putsch.

Antifa and whatever opponents for them that can be cobbled together from the LARPy end of the populist right are not serious politics. They are cringey subcultures. It's far, far closer to brawling mods and rockers than it is to spartacists and freikorps.

It seems like another lame attempt for a group to give themselves a name like "The Good Guys" so they can run around doing bad things with impunity

The antithesis to fascism is democracy, not whatever the fuck antifa is a bunch of roleplayers rioting and beating up garbage cans while hiding their faces with masks

I'm mean… Yeah I guess…

I still think Antifa should exist, just wish they would tone it down a bit. Because if this does keep up, what is stopping the Right from makeing an "Anti-Communist Action". Then it just all goes down hill.

Except leftists want freedom and people's empowerment and fascists want the opposite.
I'd like to see you actually do it given the reaction to Spencerpunch, but yes fundamentally if you were a fascist you'd want to do that for the same reasons.

I don't object to antifa as a loose organisation or a set of actions to take in principle, just in practice based on personal experience. My impression over years of run-ins with them is that they are solution looking for a problem and creating one where they can't find one.

As for Anti-Communist Action, it already exists and is even cringier and LARPy-er than your wildest dreams.

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Ya a bunch of nigger lovers, holy shit

Even Stalin would stick you faggots in camps lol

fucc u boyo
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Slaughter all people
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What they perceive to be veiled threats, by resorting to overt violence which in turn justifies, both legally and morally, self defense for the persons at the receiving end of that violence.

Antifa used be in that justified position when you had skinheads threatening and committing violence in the streets but now they have become the violent bully on the streets.

So what you are saying is that antifa needs to reach the top of a tyrannical dominance hierarchy?

Thats why antifa is obsessed with shutting down free speech while the fascists rally to protect it. I love how insane and twisted the narrative has become.

I wonder what dialectics will make of all this 30 years down the road.

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True enough.

remember to target black nationalism too

good night black pride

What does Emily the Strange have to do with antifa

Why?

Most people supported punching spencer bc he's an actual fascist. It's the starting shit with random magatards at the inauguration and Berkeley that looks stupid.

What do you mean? Nationalism makes whites defend capitalists. Why do you assume it's different when blacks do it?

The BPP maintained that Black Capitalists were also their enemy. Can someone explain to me what Black Nationalism is. The BPP seemed committed to international proletartian revolution but they are often spoken of as Black Nationalists. Then there are other groups which are completely irredeemable like the Nation of Islam.

You take shitposting way to seriously

we just want justice to be done

No empathy for nazis

who gets to decide who's a nazi then?

And Obamacare is often spoken of as Communism.

O'brien

If the rule is "punch nazis" then by appointing yourseld sole decider of an individual's nazihood you've given yourself liscense to bully and attack just about anyone.

To me, if somebody belives it is okay to advocate violence against particular group or minority cause idpol, then it's okay to beat them just to get them realize what they are doing to other innocent people.

Makes sense to me, the problem is that in practice that's almost never the case.

It is always fucking obvious.

Just an ethnic nationalist who supports eugenics, but totally not a nazi!

Hmm..

theres literally nothing wrong with eugenics

What about people wearing red baseball hats?

There's nothing wrong with letting anarcho-boots argue.

Fucking stupid comeo n.

Kill yourself

In all the footage, again and again ANTIFA are the aggressors attacking people for simply daring to express a pro-trump opinion publicly. Pepper spraying women and grey men, beating people after they're already unconscious, burning the limousine of an immigrant and ruining his business, are these revolutionary acts?

I mean, I know that the only instances I can be aware of are those caught on film, but that's all the average person is going to see.

Wow!

Your conception of justice is that you should leave peaceful people alone and only do harm to people who do harm.

The commie conception of justice is that its good to kill people with more money than you and take their shit.

You're wasting your time arguing. You're never going to square this circle.

Sure.

And again, who the fuck is talking about ethnic nationalism or eugenics? I never mentioned any of that, not that holding those opinions is anything other than stupid. The real nazis out there actually hurting people don't give a shit about harmless limp dicks like Richard Spencer.

All the people attacked by the black bloc are fascists! The black bloc wouldn't attack them if they weren't.

there are no real nazis out there hurting people

You really are that retarded.

Actually the bitch prompted classist shit so I don't care what happens to her, and porky is still porky regardless of the amount of melanin in their skin

TL;DR I don't care

I'm not sure that there are either but the only way to argue with someone successfully is to adopt their mindset and work from there.

Even if you believe that nazis are scary monsters out there trying to get people you should be able to see the difference between a skinhead pushing people around and some spergo in a red hat waving a pepe flag.

I can't tell if this is a joke

Care about whatever you want, but that shit is hurting your own movement and driving people right.

t. porky

Even better if it drives people right
People already had the mindset to begin with; so be it

Popularity games are stupid anyway

Why would Antifa attack someone who wasn't a fascist? It doesn't make any sense since that is not their purpose.

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I feel like antifa in the US attacked lumpen and autistic ancaps unfortunately

Even better

How can you definitively prove somebody is a fascist? Where's the proof that any of these people getting beaten past consciousness are fascist in any way other than the fact they're wearing a MAGA hat?

In my view, violence should always be simple to justify. Guy starts pushing on another person and acting aggressively, gets punched in the face and laid the fuck out. Cut and dry, simple, minimal need for explanation. If you have to do all of these dialectical and and logical gymnastics to justify attacking someone– You are in the wrong.

That being said there are always exceptions. I think the people that peddle weapons and get fabulously rich off of war deserve a crack in the nose, not that they'll ever get one being so rich and all. You'll never see ANTIFA bashing somebody who actually deserves it in the ear, just easy targets and unsuspecting Trump supporters

The definition of a fascist are people attacked by antifascists, why else would they attack them end of story.

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Then why do you Alt-Right guys spam it to anyone Left of you. Even if we agree on a lot of issues. You guys know a lot of Leftists voted Trump.

Why do you always preach "kill the Leftists" or "free helicopter rides for Leftists", if you want to make OUR country great again. Why don't you stop this Anti-Leftist rhetoric and work with us.

Not as Leftists or Rightists, but as American people.

For much the same reason why Holla Forums ironically celebrates Stalin's treatment of the kulaks, or other "enemies of the people" under other revolutions

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Because we're not alt-right we're actually just trump voters who like the colour red, we're not fascists we just want a large government with closed borders and control over people's personal lives, we don't want to kill the jews just deport them, JEEZ IT'S JUST A HAT.

Yes, because if there's anything capitalists hate it's a constant stream of unskilled workers ready to bid wages down and prices up

I'm talking about the autism-right.

"Large governments are fascism/communism" is a lolbertarian meme user

Do you mean to imply fascism is not a large, powerful government?

It is not enough to qualify something as fascism.

How about being pro-communist instead?

If you just start with anti-racism you are putting the cart before the horse. A lot of people are racist because desperate proles who are being exploited often form gangs and lash out based on race, this leads people to make strong bad associations. Just starting with anti-racism doesn't work, because the races are shit to each other.

The answer is getting people to accept that capitalism is shit. Marx didn't start by going on about racism, he started by fighting for communism and derived as a conclusion the strategic idea of "workers of the world unite".

If people accept capitalism as the cause of racial strife, they will realize that the things they hate about other races are just products of exploitation, and they will be able to work around them. If you just force them to not be racist it wouldn't work, because the behavior they are reacting to still exists. There are black gangs fucking things up, and there are white rednecks fucking things up and the two play off each other to the benefit of porky. You can't just say STOP without giving people a reason for a ceasefire, and that reason is workers of the world fucking unite.

Anti-capitalist action always first. Capitalism is the key to the behavior of the classes. Trying to stand in the way of the superstructure when its being moved by the base is retarded. Change the fucking base. Workers uniting is a product of intensified class struggle. Trying to stop people being racist always devolves into picking a side in an idpol based conflict, even as it masquerades as anti-idpol.

Pro-communism, anti-capitalism.

antifa's reputation is entirely their fault. it's a bunch of college libtards who have parental issues and want to be rebellious without actually fighting for anything meaningful

Throw in nationalism and class collaboration and it's close enough only autists would care.

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Weak lies fam

fuck off cointelpro

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Calling the Soviet Union a fascist state is fucking objectively wrong. You put the kiddie in "anarkiddie".

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Why don't you go beat them up then? No you should kill them and you will get away with it too because they are nazis and everyone hates nazis right? Go on then you already know you are justified to do anything you want to them since they are fascists anyway, and the world will thank you for it.

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wow i haven't seen that reaction image in a long time

were you?

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that is correct

About my thoughts on it. Antifa is pretty spooky and keeps wanting to do dumb shit for the cause. After talking to a bunch in real life a lot are either tankies or rich kids larping as anarchists trying to rebel against their parents.

I'm going to go pretty liberal here and say that large scale society mostly functions through a social contract of non-violence in the political sphere. The moment that is broken society needs to stamp down hard on it.

If you are so sure they really are evil nazi fascist bigots then do as I suggested. Kill them and be on the right side of history.

Flag checks out.

Have you read a fascist manifesto in your life?

No comments so far about Anti-Fascist Action? This was started in the 1970s by affiliates of the Socialist Worker Party.
Modern 'Antifa' is just a playpen for angry ultra-wealthy trustafarian Jew kids to have a crack at violence and getting arrested, before being given a job in an NPO supporting refugees and then joining the board of daddy's venture capotal organization. Working class kids who get arrested and charged are doomed to a life on the breadline.

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Why do nazis and racists have the right to free speech?

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Nazis and racists are the same. Not Socialism is a radical racial ideology.
Black Power movements are the same, yet you won't see Antifa fighting them. Zionism is a radical racial movement.

I have and it was nothing but womens suffrage and electoral reform.

Killing leftists is completely unnecessary. The ideology is ultimately suicidal so simply ensuring their influence on our society is kept to a bare minimum is enough - specifically keeping them out of the education system where they prey on the naive undeveloped minds of students.

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Naples protests against campaign visit by Northern League leader clash with police

welp, time to listen to some autotune leb nasheeds again

do we have the right to punch police informants and agent provocateurs