How do we solve the twitter "leftist"/"anarchist" problem?

You just switched it to another one. Also forgot to sage on my previous post.

bold assumption, and quite untrue I think

they are very much aware of class

You mean falsely conscious about the Jewish class which doesn't exist. If they do exist, show me then. Shouldn't be hard.

They appeal very much to the (white) working class. You can say it's false consciousness all you want but they are aware of class struggle. They just wish to channel it in a different way.

Some white nationalists are big on the working class ([email protected]/* */) others aren't so much but they're not a homogeneous entity. The white working class has largely been abandoned by the left so it should come as no surprise that they turn to movements which do care for them. Why do you think leftists bemoan the white working class so much these days? It's their own fault for brushing them off as racists for decades.

Which brings us back to the original point.

how on earth is this controversial

twitter.com/MXRXISM/status/838209107404402688

for fucks sake

I get what it's trying to say, but it's poorly communicated. Using the Marxist term "working class" and the sociological/statistical term "middle class" in the same sentence is stupid, because the former denotes one's relation to production while the other denotes an ideal income level. Hence, any given working class person can fall into middle class income brackets or even upper class.

substitute "Middle class" for "petty-bourgeoisie" then

nation is a spook

That's already a vastly different message, but yeah.

alternet.org/news-amp-politics/why-deray-mckessons-plan-baltimores-schools-looks-it-comes-right-out-teach

How is it stupid to call out black and Chicano nationalists. Can you explain to me how ethno-nationalist groups can succeed in the US without carrying out ethnic cleansing and causing a Nazi masturbation fantasy. I guess they can always peacefully remove whites from their area's. Oh wait this literally exactly what Richard Spencer shills for.

Go back to reddit and stop fetishizing minorities you fuck mongoloid.

Race*war-→Nazi masturbation fantasy

do some self-crit :^)

this better be ironic

Anti-imp pls

It's still on.

Ignore them? Get off the internet and organize.

wow thanks i'm a third worldist now

Nationalism is a useful tool towards the formation of a socialist state, but will eventually be made redundant.

Third Worldists like ethnostates more than the actual neonazis do.

bullets

You stop dividing based off of early 20th century politics. You're either for PPG or against PPG.

Politics on Twitter is almost as bad if not worse than tumblr politics

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Of course they appeal to the white working class, because the working class is shafted in the capitalist mode of production so the working class is where they'll find people willing to be radical.

What they don't do is put forward a class-conscious line, how else could they come, at least in part, to endorse someone like trump? Sure they recruit from the working class, but they don't organize around class lines, but racial ones.

To be fair, they could go into areas that whites have already largely fled and improve them, I don't know of anyone doing this but it is a way to build racial enclaves without having to remove anyone.

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That's not what was done though. OP compared whitenats with natlibs. You can point out fauts in both but comparing them is an apple-orange comparison.
How are you not able to differentiate between racial nationalists and separatists with national liberationists? How do you not get their fucking differences?
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Men if I knew how to unite the left I wouldn't be shitposting around, I'd be commanding an unstoppable red-and-black horde accross the globe.

Yeah fair enough. I guess I got to caught up in the American mindset bc here a lot of talk about national liberation is really just a cover for racial separatism. Sorry for acting like a dick.

Okay, can someone explain to me why Twitter "anti-imperialist" tankies hate the YPG so much? Since the US will deport anyone to Turkey to die if they have ties with the PKK, it's obvious the Kurds are nothing more than useful idiots to the US.

There's stronger logic to say ISIS are tools of Saudi imperialism, and wouldn't that make the YPG anti-imperialist?

What about white national liberation movements?

You can't.

Yeah, this makes a lot of sense.