Smash Bros Thread: Wonder Red edition

Christopher Lopez
Christopher Lopez

JAPAN TIME 3 IS HERE

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Evan Reed
Evan Reed

Reminder that Roy is worse then any NuEmblem rep.

John Evans
John Evans

That's not saying much

Jaxson Phillips
Jaxson Phillips

archive.fo/9CWWU
Archive it, nigger.

Luke Ramirez
Luke Ramirez

Are you ready for indie game representation :^)
Roy
Worse than Lucina
user……………….

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Ethan Watson
Ethan Watson

tfw touhou is losing steam compared to Azur Lane and Fate

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Colton Jones
Colton Jones

Requested Newcomer Tier List

God Tier
Banjo and Kazooie
Waluigi
Cranky Kong
Great Tier
Skull Kid
Sword Ganondorf
Wonder Red
Shit Tier
Daisy
Any Fire Emblem Character
Any unironic suggestion of a character who didn't originate from vidya (Goku, etc)
Autism Tier
Sans
Solaire
Ridley
Geno

Michael Allen
Michael Allen

Reimu and Quote are the only acceptable indie choices, everything else is mugen meme trash.

Grayson Foster
Grayson Foster

Just like it was losing steam to Kancolle half a decade ago, or however old that is now?

Austin Davis
Austin Davis

NO LIP NO BUY

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Jonathan Hall
Jonathan Hall

Sakurai is a hack
All third part characters should be removed
No more than 4-5 characters from any one series (No more than 2-3 from spin-offs)
Characters I want to see as newcomers are Pious Augustus (Eternal Darkness), Wonder Red (The Wonderful 101), Saki or Isa (Sin & Punishment/S&P: Star Successor), Kyle Hyde (Hotel Dusk/Last Window), and Ray (Custom Robo)

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Ethan Johnson
Ethan Johnson

I want a Sin and Punishment character too, though mostly for the sake of us getting a Sin and Punishment stage.

Samuel Clark
Samuel Clark

Basically how I feel, but the only third parties that should be in Smash are Sonic, Megaman and Pac-man. that's it.

Landon Johnson
Landon Johnson

By third party do you mean characters that weren't on nintendo consoles? Because as far as I know first party means directly made by Nintendo, second party means Game Freak and Intelligent Systems, and third party means any other company.

Andrew Bailey
Andrew Bailey

DECIDUEYE OR DIE

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Jeremiah James
Jeremiah James

if I can't psyslap a bitch I don't want it

Joshua Bailey
Joshua Bailey

holy shit, someone besides me remembers Hotel dusk.

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Logan Murphy
Logan Murphy

No, he means games that were on a Nintendo console but are not made by Nintendo or a second party. You're of fourth party

Isaiah Myers
Isaiah Myers

I would not be opposed to Decidueye. Remove Lucario and then I'll be okay with him getting in.

Oliver Jackson
Oliver Jackson

We need more Lip.

Daniel Ortiz
Daniel Ortiz

I'm half thinking they'd add something from Sony, seeing as they are porting the Crash trilogy.
Doubt they'd add Crash himself, as he was in that Playstation fighter that was pretty shit but I enjoyed the couple hours I played.

Zachary Myers
Zachary Myers

DON’T TALK SHIT ABOUT ROY YOU MOTHERFUCKER
Also I don’t need to say Wonder Red every thread because OP did it for me

Hudson Reyes
Hudson Reyes

Wasn't there another thread after that one that got (((mysteriously))) deleted?

Ethan Morgan
Ethan Morgan

I dunno, after Cloud I feel like Geno has a legitimate shot at getting in now. I mean the Inklings got a Mii costume and now they’re in. The only reason Geno wasn’t Sm4sh DLC was probably because Sakurai wanted to finish Corrin and Bayo and then stop working on the game.
Reimu has no chance of getting in but I want her anyways. Really I doubt there’ll be any indie reps in Sma5h. Maybe Quote or Shovel Knight or even Shantae, but they don’t have much of a chance.

Ayden Nelson
Ayden Nelson

Are all of the games by Cing worth playing, or just Hotel Dusk?

Jack Powell
Jack Powell

Reimu has no chance of getting in but I want her anyways
I feel the opposite. I feel like if Cloud could make it in then Reimu might have a shot, especially since she's the only "indie" character with any semblance of being iconic (being one of the main characters in one of the most well-known shmup series out there). Problem is, her appearance would bring in so many secondaries to Touhou, it's not even funny, so I don't exactly want her in.

Jaxson Perez
Jaxson Perez

she’s the only “indie” character with any semblance of being iconic
Quote.

Gavin White
Gavin White

Well yes, true, you got me there.

Carter White
Carter White

I’d also argue for Shovel Knight and Shantae like I did previously but I feel as though there’s a difference between being mostly well-known and iconic.

Christian Jackson
Christian Jackson

Well, maybe if Shovel Knight 64 is released this year.

Anthony Nelson
Anthony Nelson

While I do enjoy both of those games mostly Shovel Knight, and while they are extremely well known as far as indie games go, I'd argue that they aren't as iconic or genre-defining as Quote (for indie gaming as a whole, helped bring pixel indie to the mainstream) or Reimu (almost a poster-girl for bullet hell shmups), and that might be what Sakurai is going for. Those two you pointed out are also not Japanese, so there might be Sakurai bias as far as indies go, as the only American-made character that's made it into Smash as a playable character up to this point was Diddy Kong, and only because Donkey Kong Country, and by extension their characters, had been semi-popular in Japan prior to it. Of course I could be full of shit and for all I know Sakurai could very well be a Shovel Knight fanboy.

Well, maybe if Shovel Knight 64 is released this year.
Never ever, they still need to finish Shovel Knight 1. I want my damn Battle Mode already, can't wait to fuck up some nerds with Propeller Knight.

Joshua Ross
Joshua Ross

Wanting Shovel Knight or Shantae in smash

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Cameron Nguyen
Cameron Nguyen

What do you have against shante?
Shes a perfectly viable and reasonable character, even more so than duck hunt or pacman for fucks sake.
Also add my boy Quote nintnedo, you would be shooting yourself in the foot by not doing so

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Carson Allen
Carson Allen

HOLLOW KNIGHT WHERE

Nathaniel Collins
Nathaniel Collins

Do not withhold that image.

Nathan Barnes
Nathan Barnes

the mascot of the co-developer and one of the most iconic game characters is less viable than an indie character that showed up in four-or-so metroidvanias because muh dick

Jaxson Fisher
Jaxson Fisher

more so than duck hunt
more so than a first party property

Carson Foster
Carson Foster

14485411
forgetting dash attack and throws
not including taunts

Liam Scott
Liam Scott

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And I still forgot the throws because I'm a retard apprently.
B -
Forward B -
Down B -
Up B -
Jab -
Jab Combo (If Applicable) -
F Tilt -
Down Tilt -
Up Tilt -
Smash -
Down Smash -
Up Smash -
N-Air -
Up-Air -
F-Air -
B-Air -
Down-Air -
Grab -
Pummel -
Rising Attack -
Ledge Attack -
Dash Attack -
Taunt 1 -
Taunt 2 -
Taunt 3 -
Forward Throw
Up Throw
Down Throw
Back Throw
<FINAL SMASH -

Julian Jenkins
Julian Jenkins

Do not sexualize the Shantae

How about more so than
Wii fit trainer or Villager
They are not even from action games
Rob
It was originally just a fucking toy
Mr. Game and Watch
I am convinced that Sakurai was one some kind of crack to even consider adding that guy
Cloud
He has never been in a single nintendo game, except for that one rythm game I think, shantae started with the nes with a perfectly solid game.
Pit
He was from just one insanely niche game from 20 years before brawl even came out and by then Shantae had even more games than him

Choosing characters for smash is a bit random and sometimes bullshit but dont say that perfectly viable characters are not valid when way dumber shit has been added in, you're just being retarded by saying those things.

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Josiah Bell
Josiah Bell

I believe she started with the Gameboy Color.

Isaac Perez
Isaac Perez

He was from just one insanely niche game from
Actually two since he has an even more obscure game on the gameboy.

Isaiah Ortiz
Isaiah Ortiz

getting hyped for smash after the shitshow that was 4

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Brayden Davis
Brayden Davis

But Wedgewood is nothing without his team. It would make more sense to have a seven-person team like Ice Climbers or Pikmin for the Centinels, or to include Viewtiful Joe as a single playable character.

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Noah Jones
Noah Jones

Go away meleefag.

Jordan Williams
Jordan Williams

what's so bad about 4

Ethan Scott
Ethan Scott

4 was still better than the undeniable garbage of brawl, so if anything the series is trending up.

Zachary Mitchell
Zachary Mitchell

14485488
B -
Forward B -
Down B -
Up B -

Smash -
Down Smash -
Up Smash -

<FINAL SMASH -

Aspergers Version

Lincoln Butler
Lincoln Butler

Pit
one insanely niche game
forgetting the Game Boy Kid Icarus game that was even more obscure
forgetting that Shantae's second game came out after Brawl, in 2010
Come on now, user.

David Moore
David Moore

Shantae isn't a Nintendo character, that's why I don't want her in.

Colton Rivera
Colton Rivera

I deleted that post for a reason. It wasn't finished and I accidentally hit some combination of keys that made it send. You couldn't wait 3 seconds?

Jayden Morales
Jayden Morales

True, but I still have no hopes for 5.

Jaxson Lee
Jaxson Lee

Nigga, I've got the thread on auto-update, I can still see your post. I figured you just left it at his normal specials.

Alexander Bailey
Alexander Bailey

Wedgewood is nothing without his team

There was a chapter where you went with him solo and fought against blue

Nathan Murphy
Nathan Murphy

what's so bad about 4
<Opening is a mash-up of the trailers
<No adventure mode
<Large chunk of cast are sword fighters and/or clones
<Large chunk of the cast either from Mario, Fire Emblem, or Pokémon
<Doesn't look that appealing graphically
<"We won't be prioritizing third-part characters"
<Best characters in the game are third-party and DLC
<Cloud had no reason to be in the game!

Dominic Flores
Dominic Flores

Implying they won't just randomly appear out of him like some sort of sentient tumor or JRPG party member when they need to do their special move then vanish again.

Jonathan Turner
Jonathan Turner

You're also alone for the first 3-4 missions of the Prologue and the Kahkoo-Regah portal there, but the point of that sequence in 004-B is pretty obviously that the team needs to work together.

So you'd be playing as Unite Red? I can get behind that.

Levi Gonzalez
Levi Gonzalez

Let's do an an Aspergers Build for Wonder Red

B - Unite Gun
Forward B - Unite Bomb or Unify Boomerang
Down B - Unite Guts (Counter Move)
Up B - Unite Claw (Diagonal rising multiple slashes) or Unite Whip (If they return teather recoveries)

Smash - Unite Hand
Down Smash - Unite Hammer (Makes Shockwaves)
Up Smash - Unite Sword
<FINAL SMASH - Final Ultimate Legendary Earth Power Super Max Justice Future Miracle Dream Beautiful Galaxy Big Bang Little Bang Sunrise Starlight Infinite Fabulous Totally Final Wonderful Arrow

Aiden Green
Aiden Green

Unite Whip should probably be the grab. Down Smash could also be Unite Tombstone, although that might be a little too similar to Kirby.

Blake Brown
Blake Brown

Final smash should be chargeable to add more words as you hold it

I’d also be okay with platinum robo as a character with whole team in it and a stage where all the characters are giants in blossom city

Tyler Russell
Tyler Russell

You're right about that, my bad.

She started from Gameboy color
All of her games are on nintendo consoles
Not a nintendo character
Solid snake and Sonic managed to get in too back in brawl and they werent even nintendo characters, a mgs game was never even in a single nintendo console at the time.

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Parker Baker
Parker Baker

And neither was Sonic or Snake.

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Levi Brown
Levi Brown

Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes was a remaster of MGS1 for the Gamecube. There were also the two original non-solid Metal Gears.

Christian Mitchell
Christian Mitchell

There were also the two original non-solid Metal Gears.
But those were MSX games, not Nintendo.

Luis Collins
Luis Collins

Right, but they had NES versions.

Robert Walker
Robert Walker

Not Metal Gear 2, the other Metal Gear game on NES was Snake's Revenge

Michael Young
Michael Young

Oh neat. I never knew that game was on gamecube.
There still is no excuse for cloud though.

Jackson Ward
Jackson Ward

Oh, my bad. But, suffice it to say, Snake had been on Nintendo consoles at the very least. I'm not actually trying to make a point in regards to Shantae or not. I wouldn't mind seeing her, Quote, or Shovel Knight to represent indies and I think they all have a decent enough claim to a roster spot.

Adrian Edwards
Adrian Edwards

That one has a relatively flimsy reason. While the only Cloud game on a Nintendo console was Theatrythm to the best of my knowledge, Final Fantasy as a series did have a relatively long history on Nintendo consoles even if mainline games migrated to Sony. Cloud IS the most iconic Final Fantasy character and he may not be representing Final Fantasy VII (or Theatrythm), but Final Fantasy as a whole.

Eli Powell
Eli Powell

I'll bite. Let me do one for Lip. The idea is that since Lip's gameplay in Panel de Pon is based on chaining together combos, her A attacks build up a chain level depending on how many attacks or combos you can get off in a short amount of time. It would cap out at, say, 8 or 9. That being said…
B - Pollen Burst, creates a burst of pollen which has range and does knockback depending on the chain level; since it uses her Lip's Stick, it naturally gives opponents the Flower status
Side-B - Nature's Chain, creates a series of blocks that have hitboxes and disappear similar to how blocks disappear in the Puzzle League series, can create up to six depending on the chain level
Up-B - Cotton Spore, lets Lip float using that cotton creature she flies in with during the intro to Panel de Pon
Down-B - creates a block that goes under Lip; its size depends on the chain level
Smash - Lip's Stick, albeit a less potent version of how it's normally used as an item
Up-Smash - Rainbow Swing, where Lip swings the stick upwards
Down-Smash - Flower hammer, uses the Lip's Stick as a hammer, I guess?
Lip's abilities are so undefined I have to pull some of this shit out of my ass, don't know how Sakurai does it.

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Grayson Diaz
Grayson Diaz

a character from an M Nintendo game appearing on a Nu-tendo game
No dice, fam
I am hoping for an EBA/Ouendan assist trophy, at the very least, and for Snake to return, but possibly they should put some Ghost Babel shit in it.
I also bloody know that they're going to add BotW shit but I'd rather they did that than they added more FE characters that are only good for tumblr redraws.
Paperclips et al

Jaxson Foster
Jaxson Foster

The one problem I have with that explanataion is that it all came as a result of Dragon Quest. That series started with the original JRPG, it's more synonymous with gaming than Mario in Japan, the successful localization of the first game is what influenced NoA to even pick up the first Final Fantasy, and the series introduced numerous Western to JRPGs through Nintendo giving away free copies of it's sequels with each new subscription to Nintendo Power. Also, Enix bought out Squaresoft, so who's really the superior representative?

a character from an M Nintendo game appearing on a Nu-tendo game
No dice, fam
<She didn't happen
<The MGS discussion we're having didn't happen
Also, didn't Nintendo say that they're more open to considering more mature titles?

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Oliver Robinson
Oliver Robinson

Roy's game was the first massive casualization of the series, he was a shit character, he was mandatory because he was a Lord but his stats were poor and he was forced in Smash to advertise the game.

Levi Hernandez
Levi Hernandez

Also, didn't Nintendo say that they're more open to considering more mature titles?
like titty ninjas?
I still don't think he's worse than marth with tits

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Jaxon Allen
Jaxon Allen

Senran is already genuinely on the switch though,there was even a section in a direct for it in japan

Bentley Wood
Bentley Wood

At least titty Marth was useful in her game.

Zachary Nguyen
Zachary Nguyen

implying Lucina has tits

I don't want that shitty grind marathon anywhere near an actual game

Landon Mitchell
Landon Mitchell

When?

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Sebastian Rodriguez
Sebastian Rodriguez

actually both can leave, since they're both marth clones
implying Lucina has tits
right, i forgot.
but senran isn't in smash (yet)

Alexander Perez
Alexander Perez

God Tier: Waluigi
Autism Tier: Ridley
not even from action games
What's your point?

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Jackson Turner
Jackson Turner

I'd put them both in meme tier

Jordan Turner
Jordan Turner

Eh, if you're thinking of Waluigi as Brawl in the Family "TOO BAD WALUIGI TIME" yeah, he's meme tier, but if you consider him a representative for all the Mario Sports games, the Mario Party games, etc I'd say he's not a meme.

Jackson Moore
Jackson Moore

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Luis Robinson
Luis Robinson

Hey

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Asher Hill
Asher Hill

Out of curiosity, how much of a chance do Western third-party characters have? I keep seeing Japanese and Indie reps suggested, but what about third-party Western reps such as the Persian Prince from PoP, or…

…or…oh, that's why. Can anyone else think of any "notable" Western third-party characters who've been on a Nintendo console and are NOT owned by Ubisoft?

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Landon Perez
Landon Perez

Doomguy? He had a N64 game i think

Justin Perez
Justin Perez

Does being excited for the shitposting and butthurt count?

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Joshua Richardson
Joshua Richardson

Exactly.
No matter how things turn out, Japan Time is always the most wonderful time on Holla Forums.

Brandon Perez
Brandon Perez

I'd take Reimu and Marisa in my Smash Brothers game, no doubt.

Tyler Baker
Tyler Baker

Oh, yeah, the original on the SNES, Doom 64, the GBA ports, and, finally, nuDoom.

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Kevin Walker
Kevin Walker

twitter.com/FUNimation/status/973274075580821510
It's happening and you can't stop it.

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Lincoln Smith
Lincoln Smith

If Goku is revealed at E3 I will shit a house
I can't believe Goku is a legitimate possibility but this is the timeline we live in now

Nathaniel Jackson
Nathaniel Jackson

There are probably better versions of Sun Wukong to put into Smash than the Dragon Ball one

Julian Rogers
Julian Rogers

BUSTER ROD G FOR 5MASH

Jordan Cook
Jordan Cook

Titty ninjas isn't mature, it's fucking garbage.

Evan Ross
Evan Ross

But Bayo was part of the deal for putting Sonic back in the game and to promote their own material. Why would Nu-tendo want to revive one of its old good franchises (that doesn't have meme/in-joke status like The Mysterious Murasame Castle or Rhythm Heaven) when they have so many surefire sells at their disposal? As much as I think Sakurai takes bad decisions, he's probably the reason why we have a rather unique set of characters that include both the famous and the slightly obscure like Mr. Game and Watch or the Ice Climbers. I mean, fucking Captain Falcon is all on him. Speaking of, I hope they don't pull another 4 and just release it for the superior hardware with all the features intact.
Why is Lip so cute?

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Chase Price
Chase Price

I can believe Sora may be in the game.
Shovel Knight may be in the game.
Freaking Sans has an actual sliver of a possibility of being in.
<Goku, never ever.

It won't happen, its more of a meme than anything else, but if it ever does, I'm ending myself.

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Jacob Jenkins
Jacob Jenkins

Screencapping this and holding you to it, user. See you at E3~

Angel Perry
Angel Perry

This is the only indie rep Smash deserves and needs.
Every thread

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Camden Richardson
Camden Richardson

Though if they ever make a poll I'd definitely help the cause and vote the only good addition.
ywn go back to the times when raiding polls with Einstein and Launchpad McQuack was the norm and not the exception

Christopher Watson
Christopher Watson

There are a handful of characters I give any damn about at this point that they could put in that would really "hype" me in any real fasion. Goku would be one of them. Him, Chrono, Reimu, and the biggest long shot Kyle Katarn, but I can't think of any actual characters in the last two console generations worth, Nintendo or otherwise, that I would actually want to play go out of my way to play smash for other then what I listed. I can barely even think of any good "new" characters in the past few years. I mean, I would love Shantae in the next Smash, and it would be surprising as fuck if someone like Master Chief or some other rival first partier was announced, but it wouldn't really get me hyped.

Dylan Moore
Dylan Moore

As much as I think Sakurai takes bad decisions, he's probably the reason why we have a rather unique set of characters that include both the famous and the slightly obscure

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Nathan Evans
Nathan Evans

My pick would be Travis Touchdown, with a new game coming out he even has a decent chance. *Reimu* would be fun but unlikely.

I'd want this just for the massive SJW asshurt. Hell with Bayonetta getting in it's not even that much of a longshot.

Charles Rodriguez
Charles Rodriguez

Bayonetta is sexier than any of those retarded blobs from shitran kagayra
>inb4 Mark bans me for saying shitran kagayra

Liam Price
Liam Price

Smash needs to go back to being ONLY Nintendo first party characters and equal representation between series. Sm4sh was just full of stupid bullshit. Fucking memes like Mega Man, Pacman, Cloud, the dozen sword characters from Fire Emblem. Fuck all that shit. One or two characters per IP. Nintendo only. Final destination.

Blake Russell
Blake Russell

Not liking Pac-man and MegaMan

Shit taste.

Alexander Gonzalez
Alexander Gonzalez

Faggot.

Charles Powell
Charles Powell

i hope he bans you

Jason Moore
Jason Moore

Suck my cock, it's supposed to be Nintendo properties only and the latest one was watered down trash.

Christian Walker
Christian Walker

it's supposed to be Nintendo properties only
Says who?

Mason Thomas
Mason Thomas

The first 3 games.

Luis Barnes
Luis Barnes

Smash needs to go back to being ONLY Nintendo first party characters and equal representation between series.
back
I don't think Smash was EVER like that

64
4 characters from Mario (Mario, Luigi, DK, Yoshi)
2 Pokemon
1 of every other franchise represented
Melee
7 Mario universe reps
2 Fire Emblem reps
4 Pokemon
4 Zelda reps (5 counting Sheik as a separate character)
2 Starfox reps
1 of everything else

Hell Smash 4 technically leverages more characters against the all Mario franchise representation (even if it's heavy in Pokemon and Fire Emblem) so your point is kinda moot.

Jonathan Nguyen
Jonathan Nguyen

Fucking memes like Mega Man, Pacman
Naw fuck you m8. Those were perfectly good additions. I agree about all the FE shit though.

assumed it was some other guy that hated Senran for a second
nope it's shitranfag again

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Aiden Stewart
Aiden Stewart

I actually hate Shovel Knight, Sora and Sans as characters. I'd rather have Quote even though I don't really care for him.
I originally wanted Reimu, but I feel like that'd be a mistake. First of all, it's nigh impossible considering how none of the primary touhou games found a western release. Second of all, I don't want normalfags invading the touhou fandom, especially not since it's losing steam (and getting releases on Steam, funnily enough).

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Andrew Robinson
Andrew Robinson

nope it's shitranfag again
Except I'm not, try again.

Ian Long
Ian Long

If anything I think Reimu would piss people off that she got a spot over someone else, kinda like Bayonetta did. I'm not opposed to her in 5ma5h, but I can't exactly argue against the secondary invasion concerns.
I don't see why Shovel Knight wouldn't be a good addition.

Dominic Reed
Dominic Reed

Pacman, Cloud, the dozen sword characters from Fire Emblem. Fuck all that shit.
Couldn't agree with you more user.
Megaman
You need to leave now mother fucker.

Eli Gomez
Eli Gomez

What's wrong with Pacman?

Lucas Hernandez
Lucas Hernandez

Kek, faggot.

Christian Ross
Christian Ross

Adding western indie characters would open smash up to a fuckton of cancer. Best to just stick to indie Japanese stuff, Quote is probably the best pick out of all that.

Jace Ross
Jace Ross

3
So Sonic and Snake are Nintendo properties now?

Logan Fisher
Logan Fisher

What about 8 player smash? You think they'll get rid of it? How many of you actually play it? I never really touched it. And having 8 players would be a lot for Switch to handle if you have situations with two characters per player, like with Ice Climbers (if they do come back) and Rex + Blade if it happens.

I'd like to see some better online modes too, specially something like Splatfests, where there's some sort of event that goes on and the levels and items change. Maybe take the events they have every week and make special item load outs, launch rates, etc?

I feel like if online plays ends up the same way as on Smash 4, when you now have to pay for Smash online, it'll suck ass.

Jose Williams
Jose Williams

Wasn't really a "Nintendo character". At least when compared to fucking 1-8 + X + spinoffs like soccer Megaman. Megaman was born on the Nintendo. Pacman was an icon, but he was never a "Nintendo" icon. No amount of arcade exclusive Mario Kart racers will fix that. Still a better then Cloud or the dozens of FE characters they kept squeezing in. Seriously, no spear or axe characters for FE?

Jaxson Cox
Jaxson Cox

We probably only got 8-Player Smash because the Character constraints imposed imposed by the 3ds

Matthew Martinez
Matthew Martinez

Ice Climbers (if they do come back)
They'd fucking better. Sakurai doesn't have the technical limitations excuse anymore.

Carter Russell
Carter Russell

err 1-7, I keep thinking Rockman and Forte was a report of 8 for some reason.

William Watson
William Watson

indie Japanese stuff
Thoughts?

<Final Smash
Throws an enemy off the roof

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Evan Torres
Evan Torres

Is sakurai still even working on smash this time?

Use your head you dope, shes not a nintendo character, nor has ever been on one of their consoles.

Levi Bailey
Levi Bailey

Even more niche than Raymoo. I wouldn't complain if she got in though on the grounds that she could have the best fucking level ever if they went all out on it.

Andrew Edwards
Andrew Edwards

He's confirmed to be working on it, which is good as screaming at Sakurai whenever he fucks up never gets old for me.

Carter Rodriguez
Carter Rodriguez

Has Cloud ever appeared on a Nintendo console? I can't think of any Final Fantasy games period that showed up on Nintendo consoles past the SNES era.

Jordan Green
Jordan Green

Second of all, I don't want normalfags invading the touhou fandom
Fucking this. It's bad enough that some Smash fans only know of shit like Earthbound, F-Zero and Fire Emblem through Smash, and it's even worse because Fire Emblem only got popular in the West because two characters from it got into Melee. You think secondaries in Touhou are bad? Imagine how worse it'll be if Reimu gets in.

I don't see why Shovel Knight wouldn't be a good addition.
Again, I actually really like Shovel Knight, and wouldn't mind him if Quote got in beforehand, but his appearance in Smash would be kind of cheapened by him being in every other fucking indie game, and his only real importance to Nintendo would be that his game is the first third party game with its own amiibo (not counting the Smash amiibo given to Pac-Man, Mega Man and Sonic) and had limited exclusivity for the Specter of Torment campaign. Meanwhile, Quote is a little more important due to being the original posterboy for indie games on Nintendo's platform, being there to help bolster the DSiWare and Wii Shop Channel, as shit as they were (hell, a former NoA employee had to fight to get the game onto those platforms). Not only that, but he's been around since 2004, so his game has had time to age well.

What about 8 player smash? You think they'll get rid of it?
No fucking clue, depends on how well optimized the engine is for Switch. Of course if they do add in Bomberman there's no way they won't add it in because of pottery.
How many of you actually play it?
It's a neat gimmick, I'll give him that. But it's obnoxious having to do it every time in the Wii U's half-assed Classic Mode, especially on higher difficulties.
like with Ice Climbers (if they do come back)
I will have Sakurai's head if they don't.

Aiden Price
Aiden Price

Has Cloud ever appeared on a Nintendo console?
Yeah he was in some GBA game. Think it was a Kingdom Hearts game or something.

Ian Hill
Ian Hill

TBH I rather not have any indie characters in Smash, even if it is Quote. The main reason as to why is simply because they don't feel warranted/big enough to be in, nor should they be in the mess pile that is Smash.
However, the reason as to why I can see Shovel Knight in is because he has an amiibo already, a cute design and a potential for an interesting moveset like most here but whatever, and is a very popular indie game. Also, in terms of character, its kind of hard to hate him, hes pretty chilled.

The thing is Bayonetta was always requested for Smash, it made sense for her to be in this one because of her being Nintendo exclusive or at least mind as well make her exclusive now and unlike Senran :^) she can actually
be toned down from her usual M rated games.

Ice Climbers are coming back, I mean, it only make sense right?

Cloud was in that one rhythm game for the 3DS, but at least Cloud still makes more sense of being in than Madotsuki. Like nigga what moveset would she even have lmao

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Bentley Green
Bentley Green

Considering Samus Returns did well, I'd say Dark Samus, Proteus Ridley, and the Zeta Metroid have a chance.

I'm betting that decideueye, some mario fuck, 4 more fire emblem characters, and more promotional shit will be included instead.

K rool will remain a Mii costume, Ganondorf will remain a clone, and Wario will continue to stray from anything having to do with Wario

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Josiah Sanchez
Josiah Sanchez

Like nigga what moveset would she even have lmao
They pulled a moveset for ROB out of their asses, how hard can a girl with weird dream abilities be.

Zachary Martinez
Zachary Martinez

I don't want to put too much time into something so unlikely, but Madotsuki's moveset would be really easy. It's kind of pathetic why you'd make such a big deal about it considering how easy it would be. Almost every one of her effects could find a place in her moveset.

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Zachary Hall
Zachary Hall

spear
bruh, if a spear guy got in, then Sakura would have to swallow his lies and make Ganondorf not-a-clone and he ain't about to do that shit

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Jacob Perez
Jacob Perez

Switch is potentially "weaker" then the Wii U. Really depends if they got the hang of the ARM Cortex-A57 processor. Fucking tablet bs, but damn if it isn't Green. Also, Arm processors work better with ram, "somehow" I don't know the nitty gritty, but I do know if you did stack two "equivalent cpus" of Intel/AMD vs ARMs, they end up having numerious differences are what one does better then the other, and I mean on a very "low level" level.

Asher Sanders
Asher Sanders

I can't think of any Final Fantasy games period that showed up on Nintendo consoles past the SNES era.
Outside of the GBA/DS ports, there was Crystal Chronicles, XII: Revenant Wings, Tactics A, Fables, Crystal Defenders, 4: The After Years, The 4 Heroes of Light, Explorers, Theatrhythm, a few Chocobo games, a few Kingdom Hearts games, and most of the SaGa series.

Eli Clark
Eli Clark

METROID
doesn't afraid of anything!

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Levi Adams
Levi Adams

You're an idiot.

Hudson Kelly
Hudson Kelly

I don't think a character not being popular or "big" enough is reason to exclude them from smash. But, Nintendo has a lot of unpopular, not big characters they could use instead. They don't really have a reason to resort to a third party.

Look at how popular Ice Climbers got after they showed up in Smash. And before that, no one really knew who they were. Nintendo has so much opportunity to revive abandoned IP and characters with smash. I think it'll be a huge disappointment if we see a ton of third party characters. It was already a huge disappointment to see so much of the Smash 4 roster taken by only a few franchises.

Nintendo needs to revive some of their older franchises. They are flying through their staple franchises on Switch, mainly because it's selling well enough that they can invest in making more first party games. Seeing Smash bring back some old, abandoned characters would help Nintendo out in the long run.

I dunno, I think Switch has an advantage. Wii U CPU was an old POWER CPU with a few new features thrown on to make it not seem so ancient. And the supposed clock speed was only low 1ghz range on three cores.

Switch already has 4 A57 cores at 1020mhz and 4 A53 cores. And ARM is a low clock speed, high performance per clock architecture, and the POWER in the Wii U is for high clock speed, low performance per clock.

Switch CPU should run circles around Wii U CPU. I doubt Switch CPU can function as a true 8 core CPU, but even the 4 A57 cores would be much better than what the Wii U has.

From what I've seen, Switch doesn't stand out so much from Wii U graphically because of the GPU. Normal Tegra X1 GPU speed is over 1ghz, but to prevent it from turning into an Nvidia housefire, Nintendo set max clockspeed docked in the 700mhz range, and in portable it's only in the 300mhz range.

Angel Ross
Angel Ross

Decidueye is a given. There's people requesting him and Greninja was in Sm4sh.
Nintendo has a lot of unpopular, not big characters they could use instead.
This is part of the reason I want Wonder Red. Wonderful 101 did terribly and that's a damn shame. It'll probably be ported but it'll still sell like shit due to the Platinum Curse.

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Ayden Cook
Ayden Cook

Nintendo needs to revive some of their older franchises
Agreed. I'd love it if they brought back Panel de Pon, fairies included, because the GBC game was one of my favorite games growing up.

Cooper Hughes
Cooper Hughes

Waluigi wouldn't be interesting, frankly, unless they gave him a Spin-off based moveset. Base it on Mario Party, Kart and Tennis, and we'll be set, but otherwise there's nothing original to do with him.

I just don't think there's ever been an indie that I see as Smash-worthy. I suppose nothing ever stood out as that great, as capturing the feel of what it was supposed to. A fitting indie would probably be from one of those Rare-vivals, but none of them have been that good so far. If Nintendo gets behind one of them one day and there's a good one that comes out, then maybe I'd see that indie character as more fitting.

I want The Frog For Whom The Bell Tolls to come back in some way that isn't just an Assist Trophy for Smash. Maybe a Small budget sequel, or some half-remake-half-sequel like LBW.

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Jaxson Green
Jaxson Green

I didn't say he only makes good decisions. I think he's right in saying that people should stop trying to swerve what kind of characters should or should not be in Smash since they're not developing it. It's also wrong to add a hundred characters that are just FE reps because that's popular so that'll sell.
Platinum Curse.
They bring this on themselves to be honest. They absolutely need to improve their marketing department, if they even have one.

Aaron Bell
Aaron Bell

insightful.
Ghz
Mhz
These are a measure of speed not work. Arm processors are not the same as x86/x86-64 Intel/AMD architecture. In order to get the "true performance" of a CPU you need the Speed x Work per cycle. A Cycle being roughly a single hertz. Saying an ARM Processor is better then because its "faster" is saying a Ferrari is better then a semi-truck, but your job was to carry Pianos. The separate cores on the other hand is like having 8 Ferrari to your 3 semi-trucks. In anycase they are completely different weight class. There is a reason why all desktops and laptops still use Cpus that require over 100 watts of power, despite ARM processors that can be charged and powered by a 2 watt usb micro cable are around.

Charles Taylor
Charles Taylor

That's why I mentioned ARM is geared toward more work in fewer cycles and POWER is geared toward less work in more cycles. The more work you do per cycle, generally the lower frequency your CPU runs at.

POWER is more like AMD Bulldozer, Intel Netburst (Pentium 4). ARM is more like Ryzen or Intel Core.

CPUs are almost always a trade off between work per clock cycle and how may clock cycles you can get in a second. The really good CPU architectures are the ones that break the average balance between the two.

I know mhz between CPU architectures is not the same and can't be used to compare performance. But ARM gets more done per clock cycle than POWER does. And if they are running at similar speeds, ARM definitely has an advantage.

Robert Edwards
Robert Edwards

You know what, I was thinking about it more and maybe you're right. Most characters in Smash movesets are made up on the spot anyway. If it sounded as if I was making a big deal about it, my bad, it was unintentional. However I still don't see her being in the game Unless Yume Nikki gets a switch port, but even then, no lol.

Shovel Knight comes close enough to me of being Smash worthy, but even then, I don't think it should happen. If anything Rare at all, possibly Banjo-Kazooie, but that won't happen. never ever :'^(

Charles Williams
Charles Williams

If anything Rare at all, possibly Banjo-Kazooie, but that won't happen. never ever :'^(
What about Conker?

Parker Reed
Parker Reed

To be fair, Microsoft has been pretty friendly with Nintendo on occasion, especially on the subject of Rare. Rare made GBA and DS games as MS doesn't have a handheld, so it's not competition.

If anything happens, it will most likely be Banjo, but I'd love Conker, personally, because Banjo-Kazooie was mediocre.

Camden Cox
Camden Cox

Naw, MS is thirsty enough for people to give a shit about their exclusive franchises that they'd pay Nintendo a shit load of money to have Banjo Kazooie in the game. I doubt Nintendo would do it though, since it'd be advertising an exclusive on another system. Unless MS starts making strides to go third party and publishes a Banjo game on Nintendo hardware. Which, given how poorly Xbone has been doing, and how MS has completely fucked up almost every single original IP they have, I wouldn't be surprised.

I think there is a good chance the FF7 remake ends up on Switch, because Cloud was in Smash. FF7 remake is using Unreal Engine instead of SE's Luminous Engine they used in FF15. Luminous Engine has no optimization for Switch, and SE tried to get it FF15 running on Switch and it needed a lot of work. But UE runs very well on Switch.

Levi Garcia
Levi Garcia

I doubt Nintendo would do it though, since it'd be advertising an exclusive on another system
Part of the deal might be to get Conker and Banjo on the N64 Classic or the Virtual console.

I think there is a good chance the FF7 remake ends up on Switch, because Cloud was in Smash. FF7 remake is using Unreal Engine instead of SE's Luminous Engine they used in FF15.
I get the feeling it will be a timed exclusive, like N-Sane trilogy.

Cooper Morgan
Cooper Morgan

Which, given how poorly Xbone has been doing, and how MS has completely fucked up almost every single original IP they have, I wouldn't be surprised.
Wasn't the Xbox always designed to be a tax shelter for Microsoft?

Jace Ortiz
Jace Ortiz

Yeah, but you'd think they'd at least limp franchises along. It's not like they want Xbox division to be a failure. But they really do kill AA and smaller studios and their games.

Xbox released in 2001. It's been almost 17 years. Where are the memorable first party franchises that Xbox gamers are waiting for? They don't have anything. They tried buying so much to try and get some. They even bought out Rareware, which should have been easy mode for making successful games and franchises, and fucked it all up. I think MS realized they can't sell consoles based on their first party IP any more, and that's why, in order to set themselves apart from Nintendo and Sony, who do have good first party games (well at least popular enough to sell consoles), they tried to play up TV and media since they didn't have games to hype people up for that they knew would be a success on the level of a new Mario game or new Smash.

If anyone else was behind Xbox, besides MS, the console would be dead by now. But my guess is MS will have no problem limping Xbox along and pimping out IP. I can almost guarantee you the next Xbox will be entirely gimmicks on how to play games differently, instead of having games people want to play. Switch has already set a precedent that people will jump all over hardware that lets you play games differently, with Switch being a hybrid portable/console. The suits at MS are looking at that at thinking how they can come up with some alternate way to play games, since they know they can't build hype and sell hardware with a game release of their own.

But we're getting off topic, I think. As much as I love to shit on MS, this is a Smash thread.

Regardless, I think MS is going to keep opening up their IP and trying to build it on other company's hardware. I am pretty sure with Xbone, they've given up on trying to sell console hardware with just first party games alone. It's probably got a lot to do with why Scalebound was canceled too. But as you said, Xbox division is a good corporate shenanigans tool for MS, it'll never go away unless it absolutely hemorrhages money and MS finds itself in trouble. But I am a little optimistic about some MS IP showing up on other consoles. It doesn't have to be 5ma5h, but they will definitely be looking to pimp out the franchises they've bought and destroyed.

Easton Foster
Easton Foster

I doubt a 16 watt machine. Based on the battery for the switch 4.31 amp x 3.7 volts = 15.947 is comparable to a 75 watt machine. Damn Wii U was pretty light on energy. Especially with shared titles showing very similar levels of performance and framerate drops. Although again, programmers not use to the new ARM archtecture vs end of life POWERpc. I know from previous research that an ARM Cortex-A7, with all 4 cores running about 1 ghz, equaled a single core mid range Pentium 4. I know ARM Cortex-A8 promised the damn moon, but there is no way, running at the same clock speed, a single core on an A8 is equal to POWERpc if POWER was suppose to be running with x86 and x86-64s. Unless its cpu registers have really nice short cuts. I can believe, however, that multiple, "even two" combined can be faster then one POWER's cores.

And of course, proper and clever threading for the multiple cores would have a large performance boost, while bad threading coding could end up bottle-necking multiple smaller core, where fewer bigger cores would then end up doing better. I'm basing this on benchmark tests they did for Breath of the Wild, where everyone seemed to be confused why the Wii U and the Switch had framerate drops in completely different areas. Some areas the Wii U outshine the Switch, and vice versa. Also the Switched usually "but not always" outshines the Wii U if its docked, but all the games are designed to work with an undocked Switch, so that was I'm largely basing that theory on.

In any case, I still stand by my original statement that the Switch's hardware is very near Wii-U's level, especially if they don't code the software correctly to take advantage of the switches hardware and architecture. This post is getting too long.

Daniel Martin
Daniel Martin

(You) (You)
I doubt a 16 watt machine is comparable to a 75 watt machine.
I meant in terms of single cores. In terms of the whole machine's hardware.
Switch full power/potential > Wii U full power/potential.

Benjamin Fisher
Benjamin Fisher

You just can't get it right, can you?

Ian White
Ian White

Nope, Tegra X1 is 16nm and Wii U CPU is 45nm. That's a huge difference. 45nm is fucking ancient, for reference, Intel was on 45nm with their second generation Core 2 series and the Core 2 Quads. Meanwhile, CPUs like Ryzen and Intel's latest CPUs are on, or very close to, 16nm. We saw the first Wolfdale Core 2 CPUS in 2008…

I think people really, really underestimate how much Nintendo had to cut corners with Wii U CPU and GPU to pay for all the gimmicks they put into the other hardware. And Switch is basically a no-gimmicks (outside of being a hybrid) gaming device.

Jace Mitchell
Jace Mitchell

Cloud was in that one Kingdom Hearts game on the GBA.

Eli Walker
Eli Walker

Finally new smash thread

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Ethan Wood
Ethan Wood

Sakurai would never allow it

Logan Anderson
Logan Anderson

Looking at this made me think that I'd probably struggle to come up with 10 newcomers I'd really be excited for. I'll have to sit down and think about it more later.

Ryan Allen
Ryan Allen

Would be 100 better than Shantae the whore
imagine those Overpowered no start-up, no recovery Aerials with the nail.
B is Spirit of Vengeance
double jump is butterfly wings
Banshee wail is Uair
His uniqueness is all his attacks are really strong with B and cost soul. When you hit an enemy you gain soul.
you can recover HP by using soul with downB
side B is crystal forward dash
rolling has the animation of Dashing, so it is very fast rolling with little lag

Sakurai would probably Sakurai him up and make up attacks of A moves with the nail, knowing him.

Dylan Watson
Dylan Watson

Rare is western but they're Microsoft's bitch so K.Rool, Banjo, etc. would probably never get in.

Bentley Smith
Bentley Smith

How did you give him double (You)s?

Logan Diaz
Logan Diaz

k. rool is not rare property. He's under the DK IP

Chase Rivera
Chase Rivera

SAMI
NO FLAK NO BUY

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Parker Mitchell
Parker Mitchell

Too stupid

Zachary Nguyen
Zachary Nguyen

Nope
How much Nintendo had to cut corners with Wii U CPU and GPU to pay for all the gimmicks they put into the other hardware.
After reading up on it, I believe it now. I did not realize it was IBM based. Fuck, when was the last time IBM made a new CPU? It looks like Nintendo got the last ones.

Alexander Murphy
Alexander Murphy

No Pious Augustus
No Kyle Hyde
No Doomguy
No Bayonetta
No Reimu
And, into the trash it goes.

Levi Harris
Levi Harris

8 player smash was perfect for the 5 and 6 player matches. Actually used it a lot, but only had full 8 player matches on one occasion. I hope at least 6 player smash makes it in.

Michael Thomas
Michael Thomas

No Sora on that list
Do you guys have something against Sora or do you just think hes gay?

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John Williams
John Williams

Actually outside of that, what new modes or features would you want from this game? I was thinking maybe something similar to Project M's All-Star VS mode, where you use a random set of characters per stock. That, or maybe a tag-team system where you choose one character per stock, but nerf it so you get three or have to rotate to change instead of picking who you want to send out.

Lucas Morales
Lucas Morales

RIP grid of cropped porn and embarrassing cosplay. Also,
nuSimon

His gayness is what I have against him

Jeremiah Cox
Jeremiah Cox

I highly doubt Mike Jones will ever make it given that his series was intended for a western audience. I bet nips don't know who he is.

Gabriel Bennett
Gabriel Bennett

That's been the Castlevania art style from Symphony of the Night to Aria of Sorrow, and other than the outfit I think the style looks pretty good. If by some miracle Simon were to get in, his 80s barbarian design would probably at least be an alternate look

Jaxon Rodriguez
Jaxon Rodriguez

I usually play with stocks so variations of that, having a different character per stock would be cool if the switch can handle dealing with a lot of different characters in a match. A tag system like in more traditional fighters would also be neat.

And I went through the trouble of cropping some too, Xenoblade 2 doesn't have enough porn

Jackson Flores
Jackson Flores

Isaac
Ray
Wonder Red
Alexandra Roivas/Pious Augustus
K. Rool

Assist trophy
Lip (A Panel de Pon game appears from the ground and acts as a tall wall, though it can be climbed. Lip stands next to it and as the PdP puzzle is solved lip makes motions with her stick that damages those hit)
MC Mode (Runs up to nearby fighter and critiques their outfit, all characters that wear clothes have unique dialog)

I'm not sure how Kyle Hyde would do as a playable character. Good material for an assist trophy.

PoP is actually still creator owned.

Carter Young
Carter Young

Pure speculation for third-part characters, how likely could a KT rep show up? Given Nintendo's ties with the company for the past number of years, it doesn't seem like that much of a stretch. As far as who would be the rep, I think Ayane would be getting that role due to how many of their series she appears in.

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Leo Smith
Leo Smith

how likely could a KT rep show up?
Well there were those Ninja Gaiden games on the NES from when Koei and Tecmo were separate, so it's not entirely impossible for Ryu Hayabusa to show up.

Jace Hughes
Jace Hughes

Sans
Okay people need to remember something important about the Smash roster, the final roster is made at the START of development, not the year of release or unveiling. Brawl's roster was 2005 (with late of addition of Sonic in 2007) while Smash 4 was 2012 (and then DLC after release).
With that info Switch Smash roster (assuming 2 years dev time starting in 2016), there shouldn't be any character from after that point, so Sans/Undertale shouldn't be considered because it wasn't on a Nintendo platform. For post release DLC though, who knows what could happen then.

Connor Gomez
Connor Gomez

I want an online chaos mode. Randomly changes launch rate between .5 and 2, randomly selects a few items and sets them to spawn either medium or high amounts, randomly changes game speed between .75 and 1.5. Just make it complete chaos, and you never know what you'll get. You could end up with tons of bobombs, those blower things, hammers, etc.

It needs a better single player and coop too. As much as I thought Brawl was mediocre, at least it had a really good single player mode.

Yeah, threads like these totally aren't data collection threads for new character ideas! Smash 5 roster is already locked in! But lets talk about who should be in the game and why!

Zachary Martin
Zachary Martin

It depends on how much Nintendo wants an "indie" rep, because part of me thinks that, since they went with Cloud for the FF rep, they'd pick the biggest indie success as their go-to.

Joseph Davis
Joseph Davis

Odds on Dillon? The game must be popular if it got 2 sequels, right?

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Jackson Murphy
Jackson Murphy

I dislike lucario because he's centered around rewarding the player for being bad at the game. It's great for masochists who are all into screaming "oh yes daddy, hurt me more" while at the smash tournies (smash tournaments, top kek) when your shit is getting slapped

Connor Edwards
Connor Edwards

I'd say its more likely that LABO gets in.

Aaron Campbell
Aaron Campbell

I'd say its more likely that LABO gets in.
I'm okay with this.

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Jose Garcia
Jose Garcia

There will definitely be Labo presence, but as a stage rather than a character. Dumbass.

Camden Collins
Camden Collins

But I can't fuck a stage.

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Dylan Rogers
Dylan Rogers

That could actually be cool.
I don't care for Dillon or his games tbh. The thought just struck me cuz he was in the direct

Brayden Lewis
Brayden Lewis

user I'm very disappointed.

Michael Bailey
Michael Bailey

Eh, it's more just of a Advance Wars character but Sami might be the best choice. Or they could do a CO change where you have a Pokemon Trainer in the background but instead a CO and your character you fight with are the units.

William Gray
William Gray

We're obviously going to get snake back but this time he'll hide in a LABO box instead.

Bentley Ross
Bentley Ross

You are not creative enough then.

Easton Gomez
Easton Gomez

his dick can't penetrate the earth itself

That'd be rad

Angel Thomas
Angel Thomas

The worst part is he doesn't even have a low-HP buff ability in the mainline Pokémon games, but DOES have flinch immunity, which would be immensely more useful in a fighting game, so the "rewarding for playing badly" gimmick has no excuse.

Angel Kelly
Angel Kelly

But I fucked your mom last night.

Carter Thomas
Carter Thomas

Sora is a NEVER EVER because of Disney
This is why Sora doesn't show up on Dissidia.

Charles Smith
Charles Smith

I'm not sure how Kyle Hyde would do as a playable character.
<A former detective working as a salesman for Red Crown, a door-to- door sales company. Kyle also searches for any trace of his long- lost friend and colleague, Bradley. Although cool and suave, Kyle tends to let himself go in the midst of his obsessive behavior. The Red Crown president's secretary, Rachel, often gives him grief about his destructive habits.
Given what I've pulled up, the guy would mostly be a close range fighter. His regular attacks would be grounded in self-defense given his background in the police force, but his Smash attacks would be using various items and gadgets that players pick up and use in the games to solve puzzles. And, just to be "boring", his standing Smash would be firing 6 bullets from his revolver before he has to reload. However, his "look" would perhaps be the hardest part to pull off because they'd have to make a 3D model look like it's being rotoscoped.

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Brayden Nelson
Brayden Nelson

I like how everyone went from making fun of the Labo to wanting to fuck it

Nathaniel Perry
Nathaniel Perry

And all his explosives will be replaced with pachinko balls.

Nathan Bennett
Nathan Bennett

ctrl+F
NOBODY EVER ASKED FOR MARINA LIGHTYEARS FOR SMASH

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Isaac Butler
Isaac Butler

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Ian Gonzalez
Ian Gonzalez

I want her to but it will never happen

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Jordan Carter
Jordan Carter

wanting a character from an obscure Treasure game
If you wanted Treasure representation, you would be better off going with Saki. Though I'm tempted to pick Mischief Makers up.

Carter Myers
Carter Myers

cuckchan go and stay go
smash released in the west before the east if i recall. Little Mac was their "western" rep

Zachary Wood
Zachary Wood

All I need is more classic representation and I can die happy. Smash Bros doesn't need new or contemporary characters, Smash Bros is supposed to be a celebration of Nintendo's history. Once Smash Bros contains every iconic classic Nintendo character possible, then I could understand adding obscure or newer characters.

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Asher Roberts
Asher Roberts

smash released in the west before the east if i recall.
The Wii U version came out in the west first. The 3DS version, which came out first was releasing in Japan before the West.

Jaxson Stewart
Jaxson Stewart

NuEmblem
probably never grew up with Thracia or any other earlier Emblems

You stinking hipster, I can smell your lack of showers and kale shakes a mile away.

Joseph Bell
Joseph Bell

I fixed your terrible list.

git gud.

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Nathaniel Kelly
Nathaniel Kelly

She's not a Nintendo character apparently, she's currently owned by Square Enix.

Jason Sanchez
Jason Sanchez

You're clearly not trying hard enough.

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Dylan Parker
Dylan Parker

he sounds like a fag

Jason Harris
Jason Harris

Lip as an assist trophy
Get out of here.

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Landon Sanchez
Landon Sanchez

Doomguy?

David Hill
David Hill

person who recently broke up with me was pretty into smash so rip

Lucas Brown
Lucas Brown

Was he cute?

Levi Walker
Levi Walker

No Porky
No Madotsuki
No Rune Factory representation
No Etrian Odyssey representation
Nobody from Bravely Default
No Umihara Kawase

This has got to be the worst list I've ever seen in the last 16 hours

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Christian Richardson
Christian Richardson

y-yes

Isaiah Wood
Isaiah Wood

I like Daffy better

Jose Lee
Jose Lee

Cutting out Phoenix
No

Jason Harris
Jason Harris

I'd be more than okay with Doomguy if they use his 90's design and music.

Bentley Foster
Bentley Foster

Not THAT porky

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Dylan Myers
Dylan Myers

Are you suggesting that you're not fond of Todd Howard's ZeniMax Doom - Brand Erasure Edition? But he made it specially for you, user.

Sebastian Stewart
Sebastian Stewart

Porky
Unless he is riding that thing from Earthbound or something, Kumatora would make for a much better MOTHER rep, honestly just get rid of Lucas already since he is a Ness clone.

Chase Kelly
Chase Kelly

I wanted Porky because at least he can be riding the machines or something. Whether you put in Lucas, Kumatora, Paula, etc, the movesets will be the exact same, I assure you. Lucas is already borrowing canonical moves from Kumatora. Plus keep in mind you won't be able to see upskirt so there's really no point in her.

Easton Diaz
Easton Diaz

Lip a cutie. Lip for Smash!

This gross purple whore can stay the fuck out though.

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Brody Roberts
Brody Roberts

no upskirt
Oh right, I forgot about the E+10 thing. Yeah, I could see Porky working but faggots would use the "too big for smash" excuse. Which makes no sense considering that Olimar and DeDeDe are huge when they are actually small as shit.

Brandon Stewart
Brandon Stewart

no Phoenix
Kill yourself.

Logan Bailey
Logan Bailey

"fixed the list"
added a bunch of garbage tier animu shonen faggots and a game boy for some reason
too retarded to understand that the list was Holla Forums's top 50

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Logan Cooper
Logan Cooper

No, we don't think he's gay.

We KNOW he's fucking gay.

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Gavin Robinson
Gavin Robinson

What's wrong with that?

Jordan Perry
Jordan Perry

She's a greedy slut

Gabriel Adams
Gabriel Adams

kyle hyde
reimu
bayonetta, who is guaranteed to come back anyways

Yes I agree, into the trash your opinion goes

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Dominic Torres
Dominic Torres

My top 10 from this list.

10. Kumatora
9. Quote
8. Banjo-Kazooie
7. Twintelle
6. Bomberman
5. Ganbare Goemon
4. Lip
3. Dr. Eggman
2. Mona
1. Earthworm Jim

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Oliver Lewis
Oliver Lewis

My shit tastes represent Holla Forums as a whole

Smash is meant to be a Nintendo cross over, not mugen you underage faggots.

Benjamin Morris
Benjamin Morris

Could it work, Holla Forums?

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Jack Cooper
Jack Cooper

this is supposed to be a nintendo cross over
but quote and reimu are okay

????

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Jacob Jenkins
Jacob Jenkins

As indie rep and only one

Ayden Bell
Ayden Bell

I wanna see Gooey grow up to be his own Dark Swordsman, but friendlier.

Ian Lewis
Ian Lewis

that spoiler
user you didnt have to do that.

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Jordan Long
Jordan Long

Get with the times old man, Nintendo wouldn't profit by only allowing two representatives per franchise. The best selling fighting games nowadays profit off of having as many fighters to choose from as possible. Compare it to 20 years ago when SF, KI, and MK had only 6 or 8 fighters.
It's not necessarily a bad thing as long as they are balanced, but it's just the natural progression of fighting games as CD's and cartridges become larger and allow more space.

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Kevin Ross
Kevin Ross

Phoenix meme

He was already in UMvC3 not to mention that Dante is a much more popular character and pairs with Bayonetta.

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Grayson Sullivan
Grayson Sullivan

i hope you all get killed

William Roberts
William Roberts

Woah

Aaron Fisher
Aaron Fisher

Dante's the most unlikely Capcom character, because he's the only one with no Nintendo history. Mega Man made sense, Phoenix is pretty synonymous with Nintendo handhelds, and aside from that, RE and MH are far more popular series than DMC, so they'd get a rep of some kind before Dante.

Brandon Thomas
Brandon Thomas

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Jackson Cook
Jackson Cook

Some of you are alright, don't come to smash threads tomorrow

Brody Lee
Brody Lee

I agree, a niche indie PC game series for autistic score attackers and obsessive waifufags is perfectly representative of Nintendo's past and present
Dante was also in MvC3 and just showed up in MvCI
Too late; I'm already dead

Ryan Bell
Ryan Bell

Odds are high considering he was an assist trophy in 4

Julian Mitchell
Julian Mitchell

no u

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Charles Wright
Charles Wright

ISAAC NEVER EVER ;(

Jack Robinson
Jack Robinson

Same could be said for Cloud and Snake

Joseph Nelson
Joseph Nelson

Well, Final Fantasy's the biggest Square series, and Cloud's the poster boy. Same with Snake and Metal Gear for Konami. Dante will never be that for Capcom.

Juan Campbell
Juan Campbell

Why would you post that?

Joshua Sanchez
Joshua Sanchez

Outside of Megaman and Ryu, I think Phoenix is the go-to Capcom rep for a Smash entry. Ace Attorney games have always been on Nintendo consoles and bundles of them are included in all the eshops.
I like Dante, but he's about as unlikely as Cloud was. Anything could happen, I guess, but Monster Hunter is probably going to get represented instead.

Chase Myers
Chase Myers

What is MGS: The Twin Snakes and the crappy NES conversion of Metal Gear
what is that GBC Babel game

Dylan Thompson
Dylan Thompson

It's huge in Japan, also Quote is the best indie choice bar none. Additionally DMC revolutionized action games. It's impact on the Industry is huge.

Kayden Perez
Kayden Perez

You know this dude needs to come back

Pumping that iron and getting ready for his real moveset. Heavyweight macho brawling with Wario Land powers.

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Brandon Roberts
Brandon Roberts

Implying Dante isn't Capcom third mascot

I like the ace attorney games, but it doesn't touch DMC.

Nathan Kelly
Nathan Kelly

best indie choice
Shovel Knight would be way more fun to play

Jaxson Torres
Jaxson Torres

Shit list and too much third party shitters, Bomberman, Jack Frost and Quote should be the only ones to be considered as a third party, only 4 of the first party characters should be included

Jack Reyes
Jack Reyes

Invoker in Smash when?

Adrian Allen
Adrian Allen

I remember when I was young too. it was the best of times, it was the worst of times.

Alexander Ross
Alexander Ross

pic related is gonna be the new retro rep as a tribute to iwata

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Kevin Powell
Kevin Powell

implying it won't be Balloon Fighter, who was already considered once for Melee

Levi Fisher
Levi Fisher

All trash, but the other user's replies aren't much better.

Sebastian Johnson
Sebastian Johnson

it's not my list, it's what Holla Forums wants
I'm already adding an eternal darkness rep among other stuff to the list since it's being asked on this this thread

Isaiah Baker
Isaiah Baker

Balloon Fighter
instead of Alice fromBalloon Kid
God, where did I save all that fanart that kind anons drew for me anyway?

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Luke Martin
Luke Martin

implying the logical choice will ever happen under sakurai's reign

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Jacob Ross
Jacob Ross

ARMs rep is pretty much guaranteed
it is some semen demon to rival ZSS

who are the ARMs waifus?

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Jaxon Reed
Jaxon Reed

I don't want lip
She's too literally who . Don't be greedy, be thankful she's an assist trophy
I rather see a puyo puyo rep than lip, because at least that brings some cool things to play with for moveset.

Leo Davis
Leo Davis

who are the ARMs waifus?

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Liam Flores
Liam Flores

I hope its a male character just to spite you.

Ryder Moore
Ryder Moore

it's probably gonna be Springman with Ribbon Girl alts

Jose Sullivan
Jose Sullivan

Lip is too literaly who
The star of Nintendo's flagship puzzle game series that everyone has played even though it's been under Yoshi and Pokemon names in the west

Fuck off loser. Being a literally who didn't stop your 9 million Fire Emblem and Xenoblade reps from appearing.

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Zachary Flores
Zachary Flores

Twintelle, obviously.

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Tyler James
Tyler James

Checked

Andrew Roberts
Andrew Roberts

This, fucking shrek outsold Xenoblade Chronicles.

Shrek Confirmed.

Alexander Howard
Alexander Howard

I don't see a problem with this.

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Jack Jackson
Jack Jackson

character from some puzzle game
character only appeared in Japan
Honestly, you're lucky her flower dildo made it in as an item
1 Xenoblade rep = 9,000,000

Benjamin Campbell
Benjamin Campbell

I hope you choke on your own cum and die, homolord.

Michael Williams
Michael Williams

Sorry, but I don't understand what this stupid foreigner is on about.

Wew lads, the japs went in hard on these fools.

Just because of this, I wouldn't mind Twintelle for Smash, but I believe Springman is a guarantee for Smash.

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Anthony Jackson
Anthony Jackson

Villager's up-b is the closest we'll ever get.

Zachary Brooks
Zachary Brooks

Character from some puzzle game
Literally wants a Puyo Puyo rep

Nigga you 'tarded or somethin?

Also Lip appeared in the west indirectly a couple of times, her stage theme was unlockable in Planet Puzzle League, and she also got an unlockable costume in Animal Crossing Puzzle League.

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Gavin Fisher
Gavin Fisher

Post your choices, if you're so great.

Bentley Nguyen
Bentley Nguyen

Jokes on you, qt fuckboy is fine too

Alexander Parker
Alexander Parker

They could easily change Villager's up-B though, like a vertical Lloyd Rocket or something

Jace Campbell
Jace Campbell

qt fuckboy
Oh fuck, the gay sure is spilling around lately. Go back to your sodomite board and stay there looking at asshole pictures or something.
/cuteboys/index.html

Luis Lee
Luis Lee

Oh fuck, the gay sure is spilling around lately.
WHERE DO YOU THINK WE ARE?!?

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Ryder Walker
Ryder Walker

Traps are gay, user.

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Jason Nelson
Jason Nelson

Post yfw she gets into smash

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Alexander Russell
Alexander Russell

Go and post this shit somewhere else, you deranged AIDS carriage. This is a Smash thread if you didn't notice.

Nathan Harris
Nathan Harris

she
I thought all rabids were male

Connor Fisher
Connor Fisher

I'm not gonna bother getting this one if any Rabbids content gets in

Luis Bell
Luis Bell

Can Reimu even handle being in a game without Marisa? The last time that happened, it was Highly Responsive to Prayers. We know 3rd party IPs don't get more than a single rep. Can Marisa settle with being an Assist Trophy?

Ethan Miller
Ethan Miller

her stage theme was unlockable in Planet Puzzle League
In Japan; her stage and appearance both got patched out because FUCKING TREEHOUSE wanted the fairies to STAY in Japan. However she did appear in Pokemon Puzzle Challenge as part of a hidden cheat code.

Joseph Scott
Joseph Scott

It'd be funny if this was a plot point for having Rayman in Smash

Rayman busts into Smash in a heroic attempt to save the rest of the video game world from the Rabbid menace

"They've destroyed my franchise and now they're coming for all of yours!!! We have to stop them now!!!"

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Nathan Ward
Nathan Ward

Would be a great reveal trailer.

The salt from all the people that unironically want rabbids as characters would be delicious.

Caleb Cooper
Caleb Cooper

deranged AIDS carriage
Smash thread
What's the difference?

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James Garcia
James Garcia

Good taste

Banjo-Kazooie
Simon Belmont
Bomberman
Rhythm Heaven rep
Advance Wars rep
Paper Mario
Elite Beat Agents
Isaac
Mother rep
Ridley
Rex/Pyra
Ganon
K. Rool

shit taste
Sans (or any indie character)
Rabbids
Waluigi
Ashley
Daisy
Geno
Goku
Sora
Any fire emblem character with a sword

Carson Anderson
Carson Anderson

Will be rayman if anything

Dylan Davis
Dylan Davis

Rayman didn't get a AAA crossover game with Mario though. The rabbids did.

Leo Ward
Leo Ward

Ridley
Fuck off

Joseph Ramirez
Joseph Ramirez

Ashley

Yeah, Ashleyfags can screw, Mona is better

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Jaxson Brown
Jaxson Brown

Mona
Ah, I see you’re a man of taste.

Julian Ramirez
Julian Ramirez

Waluigi wouldn't be interesting, frankly, unless they gave him a Spin-off based moveset. Base it on Mario Party, Kart and Tennis, and we'll be set, but otherwise there's nothing original to do with him.

Nigger did you actually play the games he's in that give him unique abilties? He has shit load of original stuff.

Hunter Morris
Hunter Morris

We must hope that Massive Hero Soccer Guy doesn’t give in

He’s been pretty good about choosing iconic characters over newer characters, the exception being the FE cast. I’m sure he’ll realize Rayman would be the better choice, or at least know that Rabbids don’t deserve to be characters if he actually thought about it for more than 2 seconds.

Jacob Ward
Jacob Ward

be thankful she's an assist trophy
Well no one can be thankful because she isn't even an assist trophy, just the "Lip's Stick" flower item.

Remember the sad fact that only one assist trophy out of the 27 from Brawl became a newcomer for Smash 4. It was Little Mac if your still wondering

Matthew Roberts
Matthew Roberts

Those drawings are my OC, I've been working on a moveset for her. I think she's a legitimately better choice than Ashley because she more closely represents the bizarre and quirky humor of the Warioware series, and would also provide them an excuse to revamp Wario to a Wario Land moveset ("you can't say you don't have a Warioware rep, now make Wario more like his Land self!")

Things I haven't drawn yet:

Forward B is a moped rush, functions similar to Wario's bike, but she can perform attacks like hot donuts and flips
Down B makes her pull out a pet, which wanders around the stage like Dedede's waddle dees in brawl, except these critters attack the opponents by flinging banana peels, kicking soccer balls or shooting sticky goop
Tilts and smashes are all based on her microgames and other jobs she's had:
Down Smash makes her pull out a guitar and play a power chord, which causes pyrotechnics to light up around her
Forward Smash is based on her "nighttime allergies" microgame - the attack itself is a sneeze, and then she sniffles up the booger that it causes
Final Smash, she realizes she's late for work, zooms forward on her moped, then opponents find themselves on a paved highway. Mona comes zooming down the road with a zillion cop cars chasing after her which all crash into the opponents, and then her pig comes out and kicks a round bomb into all of them making them fly everywhere.

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Sebastian Jenkins
Sebastian Jenkins

What are the chances Sakurai surprises us all with some obscure videogame character nobody was expecting?

Jace Watson
Jace Watson

100%

Grayson Green
Grayson Green

very high, it happens every time as far as I know

Austin Anderson
Austin Anderson

Sm4sh was the peak though, I don’t know how you top Cloud in terms of surprises.

Jacob Bell
Jacob Bell

I'd like it to be this guy.

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Parker Rogers
Parker Rogers

CUPHEAD WHERE

Xavier Williams
Xavier Williams

I hope he tries to top it, it seemed to work pretty well last time

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James Carter
James Carter

This is pure autism but I thought of the same thing (Wario getting Land moves, Mona getting WarioWare moves) before so I approve.

now post mona porn you dirty fuck

Austin Cooper
Austin Cooper

XDDDDD
SO FUNNY!!!

Julian Torres
Julian Torres

I think this guy would be pretty surprising.

It's completely possible now that he appeared in Minecraft on Switch.

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Hunter Johnson
Hunter Johnson

Yea, except unlike Snake he needs his guns to even feel Halo-like

And that’s a no go if they want to keep a T rating

Robert Turner
Robert Turner

Does he really?

Chief has lots of really iconic sci-fi weapons and equipment that aren't ballistic weaponry.

Spartan Laser
Energy Sword
Gravity Hammer
Rocket Launcher
Plasma Grenades
Plasma Rifle
Covenant Carbine
Needler
Armor Abilities and Equipment from Halo 3 and Reach, such as the Bubble Shield, Armor Lock, and Jetpack

Levi Powell
Levi Powell

Fuck it’s been so long I forgot about all that.

I think he’d still feel out of place in Smash, but who knows.

Tyler Phillips
Tyler Phillips

Meanwhile Smash 4 has Bayonetta who has a pistol for each limb and that game was rated E10+.

Levi Lopez
Levi Lopez

Probably because the guns were smaller.

Also ==BANJO WILL BE IN SMASH==

Carson Perez
Carson Perez

archive.fo/JTkYl

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Tyler Torres
Tyler Torres

Final Smash: He rides a Black Hole NeoTank in the background and begins to shoot the everliving fuck out of everyone with both the cannon (Jan) and machine gun (special).

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Joseph Watson
Joseph Watson

Will play like Melee
Only four characters viable
Competitive play will revolve around exploits and unintentional bugs
Only autist savants will be able to compete
No interesting characters or stages in competitive play

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Levi Miller
Levi Miller

It’s either that or just Bayonetta meta. Pick your poison

Nolan Sullivan
Nolan Sullivan

At least Bayonetta's a cool character. Sexy witch lady and not just a furry or a stupid anime fuccboi with a sword.

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Hudson Carter
Hudson Carter

FUCK YOU IT'S WALUIGI'S TIME TO SHINE

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Jayden Wood
Jayden Wood

I don't get why people are so fucking gay over Waluigi. The sheer autism displayed by the people who want him playable make me hate him more and more as time goes on.

What the fuck would he even do as a fighter? Some stretchy limb punches and kicks like Dhalsim?

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Carson Fisher
Carson Fisher

the cheering guys 4panel meme
I never noticed before but how did they switch positions?

Robert Gomez
Robert Gomez

what would the guy who only shows up to have fun doing sports and playing games with his friends do?
Gee, maybe something related to games and sports?

Gabriel Parker
Gabriel Parker

Games and sports

Okay, so what's so special about him? Why should he get in over, say, Daisy, who would also have a moveset based on games and sports?

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William Peterson
William Peterson

Daisy
a character from mainline Mario games
What part of only sports and games did you not get? Are you going to suggest Pauline next?
In addition, any non-special moves for Daisy would almost certainly be direct clones from Peach because they even look nearly identical, while there's no character with a similar build and animation as Waluigi.

Robert Cook
Robert Cook

From mainline Mario games

She's only appeared in ONE mainline Mario game, and that was Super Mario Land on the Game Boy. All the rest of her appearances have been in sports/kart/party titles. It doesn't change the fact that if they were going to use a moveset for her it would be based on her appearances in those games. So the question still stands, why is Waluigi more special than her? They'd both have the exact same moveset as far as I can tell, with the lone exception that Waluigi has potential for stretchy limb attacks.

Alexander Williams
Alexander Williams

It's not my list

Bullshit

Chase Williams
Chase Williams

Underage fags I swear

Logan Gonzalez
Logan Gonzalez

What the fuck whould he even do as a fighter?
Knowing Nintendo, at the bare minimum he would theoretically have a moveset similar to Wario's with a couple of spinoff-related moves such as video related. Also Project M and Ridley because fuck all of you.

Easton Lee
Easton Lee

I'd want this just for the massive SJW asshurt.
There's no need for a third-party character to do that, since SJWs are butthurt at all times.

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Juan Ross
Juan Ross

Underage
First Rayman was a launch game for the PSX

I ain't even all that hype about Rayman but get your facts together fool.

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Carson Miller
Carson Miller

Actual musclebound Wario who throttles the shit out of everyone
I miss him.

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Jacob Gray
Jacob Gray

The argument of "what would they even do?" is fucking hilarious.

<What would Little mac even do? Punch?
Yes, ALL the punches!
<what would miis do?
whatever the fuck they want
<villager would be pretty impossible
evidently not you god damn hack
<what would captain falcon do?
just fucking give him every super sentai move you can think of because fuck you

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Julian Young
Julian Young

I want the NES Power & Reset buttons playable! What? Think of a moveset? I don't have to do that because that's Nintendo's job not mine!

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Ryan Russell
Ryan Russell

A fangame has a literal punching bag with no limbs as a character and they gave it a complete moveset.

Jace Kelly
Jace Kelly

Moveset consists of nothing but flailing aggressively
Just because they can do it means they should

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Bentley Gutierrez
Bentley Gutierrez

not wanting to aggressively flail at opponents
You sound like you don't want to have fun.

Leo Thomas
Leo Thomas

A fangame has a literal punching bag
Sunsoft also did that 23 years ago.

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Dylan Parker
Dylan Parker

comparing inanimate objects with actual characters
Fact of the matter is, if Sakurai managed to come up with a moveset for the Villager he can come up with a moveset for anyone.

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Xavier Carter
Xavier Carter

Again. Why should he?

If he wanted to he could totally make a moveset for a fucking Goomba. That doesn't mean he should make Goomba playable.

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Christian Foster
Christian Foster

And why shouldn't he?

Caleb Flores
Caleb Flores

Because a Goomba is not a character and just a generic enemy?

Are you seriously this retarded?

Evan Turner
Evan Turner

Because this isn't Mugen, we don't need 300 random shitty characters to bloat the fucking cast.

William Jones
William Jones

not wanting to make your opponents feel shame for being bodied by a lowly enemy

Brandon Price
Brandon Price

I'm expecting it to be in the inevitable roster leak near launch, and everyone assuming that specific leak is fake because of muh pixels.

Josiah Barnes
Josiah Barnes

But i'm not talking about Goombas nigger, i'm talking about Waluigi and literally any Character with even a bit of relevance to Nintendo.
muh bloat
Kill yourself.

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Jaxson Wright
Jaxson Wright

There can be only one.

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Jace Watson
Jace Watson

Goomba has as much relevance to Nintendo as Waluigi, if not more.

Again, the point I'm making is that you have completely failed to provide any sort of reason as to WHY he should be in. Your argument basically is, yeah, let's just throw in any shitty thing that's even slightly related to Nintendo as a playable character! Remember bloopers? Make those a character! Remember those plastic condom things you used to have to put on your Wiimote? Make those a character!

Adding a bunch of pointless characters just because you can is completely fucking retarded and actually serves to make people want the game less.

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Christian Martinez
Christian Martinez

Goomba has as much relevance to Nintendo as Waluigi, if not more
a generic enemy has more relevance than a secondary character

And the point i'm trying to make is that going
b-but what would he even do?
as an argument for not including a character is fucking retarded.

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Aiden Richardson
Aiden Richardson

And the point i'm trying to make is that going
b-but what would he even do?
as an argument for not including a character is fucking retarded.

Except that's literally not what I'm doing you utter fucking brainlet. I'm asking you a pointed question in an attempt to see why you want him in the game and figure out what makes you excited for him. The onus is on you to get others hyped for your character and so far you've completely failed to do that because you're a completely dumb sack of shit (which is to be expected of Waluigi fans).

So I'll ask you again. Why should Waluigi be in Smash? What can he do? How is he going to fight? If you were actually able to answer these questions maybe I'd be on board with your shitty contrived tertiary character that only exists because Wario needed a doubles partner in Mario Tennis 64.

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Jacob Richardson
Jacob Richardson

Are you ready for the new skins for the kirby characters?

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Liam Cruz
Liam Cruz

Except that's literally not what I'm doing
Except that IS what you did faggot, some cunt asked for Waluigi and you went
What the fuck would he even do as a fighter?

I honestly don't give a shit about Waluigi, i'm just telling you that your initial argument is ass and you should kill yourself.

Cooper Williams
Cooper Williams

asking a pointed question while inquiring about some examples of how he would fight
literally the exact opposite of what you're saying I'm doing
"e…except that is what you did faggot!!!!!!!!"

So you are actually more dense than pig shit. Thanks for confirming.

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Matthew Ward
Matthew Ward

I don't get this reference.

Caleb Foster
Caleb Foster

it's a japanese thing
crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2017/11/26-1/new-gashapon-line-brings-you-kirby-with-a-chin

Andrew Perry
Andrew Perry

Linking to Crunchyroll
Posting without an archive
LEAVE, CUCKCHAN FILTH!

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Hunter Sullivan
Hunter Sullivan

Let's just look this over for a second, see if you can follow along.
Mario - literally the mascot of the company and the most recognizable IP in the world, even moreso than Mickey fucking Mouse.

Luigi - his famous, yet mistreated brother. Mostly been a player 2, but that still involves a lot of games. He also has his own series in Luigi's Mansion, which, while nowhere near mainstream, still is a classic.

Wario has not one, but two of his own series - Wario Land and Wario Ware.

Peach is not only a mainstay of the series, but also the most famous female character in gaming as a whole.

Bowser not only is a fun villain, but a beloved one, thanks to the Mario RPG series of games giving him a fun personality.

Donkey Kong has his own series of games, which are bloody phenomenal, and play very differently to anything Mario.

Diddy Kong is pretty much DK's Luigi, but in this case, most people seem to like Diddy far more than Donkey Kong as a character.

Yoshi, as well, has his own series of games, once again, different from Mario, and is a mainstay in the mainline Mario games as well.

Fucking Rosalina has been in three of the past 4 mainline Mario games, and arguably is one of the more interesting characters thanks to her backstory.

Even the Koopalings have been in mainline Mario games for a while now, and are classic characters that have been around since the NES.

AND EVEN FUCKING DOCTOR MARIO has his own fucking series of puzzle games. Yes, the shitty fucking clone character has more of a reason to be in than your shit suggestion.

What does fucking Waluigi have? Tennis, Kart, Golf and Party. The only, ONLY interesting way to pull him off would be to give him a moveset revolving exclusively around the spinoff games.

Yes, Waluigi could be an interesting character. Nintendo could easily shit out a "Wario and Luigi: SuperVillain Saga/Partners in Crime", and it would probably be pretty fucking fun, but until that day, Waluigi is a shit character with no personality aside from what maymays attributed to him.

A character should be either iconic or interesting. Waluigi is neither.
I honestly don't give a shit about Waluigi
In that case, that advice applies to any of your other shit ideas. Iconic or interesting.

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Nathaniel Wilson
Nathaniel Wilson

use shitty argument
get called out for it
nu-uh i didn't say that

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Hudson King
Hudson King

You guys trying to treat Smash roster like a popularity contest have it all wrong. Some of the most loved Smash characters were obscure before Smash, or not very popular. Certainly not as popular as Nintendo's major characters like Mario and Link.

The really popular characters are in Smash for new people who aren't familiar with more of Nintendo's characters. They all play fairly simply, don't have overly interesting mechanics, and are usually middle of the road on the fast and light to heavy and strong spectrum.

The best example of a nothing character getting big because of Smash is Ice Climbers.

Jordan Baker
Jordan Baker

Endless army of autist savant Waluigi fans who don't have any good reasons for their shit character to be in the game and are just wasting their time trying to bait people, ensuring that everyone hates them and their character

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Joseph Diaz
Joseph Diaz

Ok m8, whatever you say.

Aaron Lopez
Aaron Lopez

At the very least, Ice Climbers were Unique. Duo characters hadn't been done yet, it was a bloody interesting, unique break from the other character types. Most of the criticism is towards shitty, generic suggestions that are just thrown out because muh maymays.
Like I said, arguments could be made for someone like Waluigi, but they'd need far more mainstream love, or even an interesting spinoff game to develop them as actual fucking characters and not just tennis players.

Makes me wonder why there are so many Walugifags and comparatively few Daisyfags - both are in the same position.

Grayson Roberts
Grayson Roberts

People ask Waluigifags why he should be in the game
They're unable to give a straight answer
Resort to aggressive baiting and trolling
Ensure that the schadenfreude from Waluigi not making it in the roster will be 100000x more delicious

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James Thompson
James Thompson

The only, ONLY interesting way to pull him off would be to give him a moveset revolving exclusively around the spinoff games.
You say that like it's not enough. You're asking "but what would he even do?" and you know the answer. Are you okay?

Camden Sullivan
Camden Sullivan

anti-Waluigifag acting as autistic if not more autistic than Waluigifags
Seems like business as usual in Smash threads.

Joseph Ross
Joseph Ross

Yeah m8, you sure showed me.

Bentley Cook
Bentley Cook

Waluigi haters are all the same guy

It's a different user, user.

Dominic Bennett
Dominic Bennett

He didn't imply that it's the same guy as you, just that he used the same nonargument as you used earlier.

Jace Evans
Jace Evans

He even admits it wasn't an argument, which is exactly what I've been saying, but instead a pointed question

Jesus fucking christ. How dumb are you people?

Christopher Lopez
Christopher Lopez

Now YOU are the one mixing up who you're talking to, faggot. And just because what you say is not an argument doesn't mean you didn't try to use it as one.

Ayden Davis
Ayden Davis

So, what are you guys arguing over?

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Oliver Edwards
Oliver Edwards

RAYMAN FOREVER

Josiah Murphy
Josiah Murphy

I can't wait for Captain Falcon to be revealed for the fifth time.

Isaiah Lopez
Isaiah Lopez

I would legitimately be actually excited if Goku was going to join Smash. Android 21 assist trophy?
Because I want to see the world burn.

Brody Baker
Brody Baker

The funny thing about the Villager moveset is that he has Side B Gyroid missile attack that don't even relate back to Animal Crossing. Fans try to use as many game inspired moves, while Sakurai comes up with other weird stuff or even using other characters from the same game for move inspiration like the Ness/Lucas's moves.
Fan pitches of Villager
All the specials attacks will use the tools, Up B for fishing rod recovery, B for slingshot, Side B to swing axe, Down B shovel? Grab is bug net, etc
Smash version
Balloon Fight inspired Up B recovery move (NES game is available in GCN version), B is pocket (which is simply brilliant), Side B launches a flying Gyroid like a fucking missile or you can ride it, Down B plant sapling, water it to grow tree (that can serve as a shield), get axe (to attack with) or chop down the tree to attack, grab is bug net. Shovel is a pitfall like down smash, while slingshot can only be used in the aerial attack.

If an ARMS fighter does get in, I would expect (if it's not just a Little Mac clone with long limbs), that it would moves taking from the other ARMS fighters, Eg: MinMin's kicks, Ribbon Girls aerial jumps, Barq assisting, tempory cloak like Ninjara. Or either that they could just throw in Dr Coyle, since she already seems to be researching and copying the abilities of the other ARMS fighters in universe.

Adam Adams
Adam Adams

Waluigi
Cranky Kong
Sword ganondorf

This is bait

terrible content
content split between two games
the content that was there was half baked compared to previous entries
Still lacks customization options like being able to toggle stage elements in a stage because of Sakurai's butthurt

The only thing Smash 4 had going for it was it's roster, but even then they had the audacity to add in even more Mario characters, padded out Kid Icarus, and of course fucking Fire Emblem. Everything else was mediocre. Sure it was better then Brawl but that isn't an achievement.

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Chase Morris
Chase Morris

I literally didn't. You guys are just too fucking retarded to know when someone's asking you a legit question.

Yeah, it would actually be funny if Goku got in Smash and was terrible, like he was bottom tier. I'd love the salt that would ensue from him having a 2-8 matchup against a pink princess or a fat penguin with a hammer.

Alexander Long
Alexander Long

im here to slay Ridleyfags

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Jason Flores
Jason Flores

Oh cool nice to see Sylux is going to be a Samus clone.

Carson Reyes
Carson Reyes

that would be true if he was a last minute inclusion, but too bad its not.
his entire character is to be opposing contrast to Samus as much as possible, to where he uses a experimental weapon akin to Metroid drainage, so its hard to see him that unlike Ridley.

Sebastian Howard
Sebastian Howard

I'd rather be a Waluigi fag then a fucking Sylux fag, holy shit.

from a game that can barely be called a Metroid
Was the black sheep of the entire franchise until Other M came along
cast of barebone characters with nothing interesting about them
that shitty character design
good chance he will just end up some boring human with a grudge
"western made characters" is somehow is a plus
Both Ridley's and Dark Samus' boss fights in the series were far more interesting then anything he did

I will never understand the Sylux meme and why they keep teasing him in every game. Everything from Hunters should have been forgotten. If Ridley can't get in then at least Dark Samus is understandable, but why settle for less with Sylux?

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Landon Rivera
Landon Rivera

I'd rather be a Waluigi fag then a fucking Sylux fag, holy shit.
so you decided to be the trash begging for useless spinoff-exclusive filler over something that's getting the spotlight in major games after a decade of haunting? but hey, im not stopping you, go ahead.
wall of very baseless metroid purist or metroid fanatic rant/bicker/bitch bloat #2045823 etc etc.
start an argument at anytime, especially for the Smash topic. not made up fanbase bullshit to justify their autism.
I will never understand the Sylux meme and why they keep teasing him in every game.
because they're introducing a new plotline for future Metroid Prime titles after when the phazon arc is all completed, and they're starting off by fleshing out Sylux first.
like it or not. its none of the samey recycled garbage redditors rumor about to justify the new stuff either.
If Ridley can't get in then at least Dark Samus is understandable, but why settle for less with Sylux?
you can ask the same for Wolf getting over Andross, Bowser Jr. over just Shadow Mario, or Rosalina getting in over Petey Piranha. don't get me started there, i'll maul you if you try to justify these for Bigley or another sidelined Metroid antagonist.

also the support for Dark Samus started to harshly drop around once they announced her story is over, likely being Lucas-tier clone, getting outran by the new major antagonist for future Prime games.
nobody wants to deal with that, gotta move on to the next.

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