Catholic priest

What does /leftpol/ think about Zapata?

Was he, dare I say, /ourguy/?

Fedoras BTFO

Bourgeois revolutionary

Do you know the historical context?
the country was much pretty much feudal

by the way, the revolution even implemented the collectives for the peasants who worked the land so that it would be theirs.

that changed when the liberalization policies were put in place some decades ago

EZLN loves him, that's good enough for me.

Was Pancho Villa a leftist?

eh, i think he was more of an opportunist scoundrel. zapata is the respectable one

There's a good case to be made that the Mexican Revolution was more proletarian/peasant than the Russian one.

You don't know what bourgeois means do you you child? I'm not applying some infantile value judgement to it, it is simply a fact.

The irony of calling someone else a "larper" when your historical philosophy is "everyone i like was secretly a socialist!!"

I know what it means, im just making sure you're not the type to call everything that is not in total agreement with you "bourgeois" as a cheap insult.

I don't think he was a socialist

reminder that Jesuit priests were amongst the most prominent 20th century's left intellectuals in Latin America

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Your thread makes me cringe because I learned this on local history class in school.

Soy Mexicano. Y no tiene absolutamente nada que ver su religion, nomas tiene que ver que era revolucionario.

Zapata was good but his religion is still spooks. The less spooks the better.

Pendejo.


That doesn't makes religion better than atheism. The less spooked people are the better.

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Your thread makes me cringe because Iearned this on local history class in school.

Soy Mexicano. Y no tiene absolutamente nada que ver su religion, nomas tiene que ver que era revolucionario.

Zapata was good but his religion is still spooks. The less spooks the better.

Pendejo.


That doesn't makes religion better than atheism. The less spooked people are the better.

The REAL hardcore mexican revolutionary was Ricardo Flores Magon.
The rest of them were bandits and peasants that could barely read. Zapata was the only decent one of the bunch.
Too bad their ignorance made them rely on the old bureaucrats that had the country drowning in misery in the first place.

This so much this!

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Didn't Mexican socialists try to genocide Catholics in the 30's

looks like a mexican trotsky tbh

He pretty much was.
Down to the persecution and death in exile.


That was merely a transfer of power from an old but weakening church and a young but growing/maturing federal government.
But yes, it was a nasty insurgency, very obscure too, most likely on purpose.

You wouldn't happen to be talking about the infamous comprador elites, would you?

Ask any latin american leftist and he will say yes, he was /ourguy/.

Villa was too much of a gloryhound and an ameriboo to really count imo.

If he was then how come he had to be murdered so that the Mexican Bourgeois revolution could follow its curse? he wasn't part of the Mexican Bourgeois revolution as such, he was its "ultra-left deviation" that had to be nipped in the bud so it wouldn't evolve into a full on peasant revolution.

Pic related, here is the murderer of Zapata and Villa, this is what a bourgeois revolutionary looks like.

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don't know much about him sadly, but catholic revolutionaries get the benefit of the doubt from me.

Please don't include socialist and genocide in the same sentence ever again. we have plenty to debunk already.

My hero

lololololololol

FAT!

I wouldn't dare to say he was /ourguy/, he was pretty decent.

Villa was an illiterate ameriboo (like most northern mexicans), but I actually think he could be radicalized based on historical anecdotes.

Obregon was something like a modern technocrat. He was pretty brilliant but lacked any ideology.

Ricardo Flores Magon was goat, even if he was a national trosky with his newspaper.

Madero, Carranza y Huerta were all faggots and they should have died earlier.

Serdan brothers suffered a pretty funny death.

Porfirio Diaz was a class traitor. It's kind of sad because his biography is great and he seemed like a cool guy, but porky got to him.

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he was
Zapata was partly influenced by an anarchist from Northern Mexico named Ricardo Flores Magón. The influence of Magón on Zapata can be seen in the Zapatismo Plan de Ayala, but even more noticably in the Zapatista slogan "Tierra y libertad" or "land and liberty," the title and maxim of Magón's most famous work. Zapata's introduction to anarchism came via a local schoolteacher, Otilio Montano, who exposed Zapata to the works of Peter Kropotkin and Flores Magón at the same time as Zapata was observing and beginning to participate in the struggles of the peasants for the land.
from libcom

Where the hell did you get that Zapata was a priest?