Why don’t Western Devs get the Cthulhu mythos or able to do lovecraftian themes...

Why don’t Western Devs get the Cthulhu mythos or able to do lovecraftian themes? Seems like only Japanese and Slavic Devs get lovecraft.

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I'll believe it when I see it

There was this game released last year set in the mythos where you're a researcher in antarctica,but i can't remember the name.

also stop sucking lovecraft's dick. there's no such thing as "lovecraftian", the dude just wrote what could be described as very verbose horror stories.

CONARIUM,that was it.

Western Devs hate lovecraft because he was wacist.

He became less racist as time went on and he got a gf.

I want a Holla Forums gf

Didn't he leave his gf like a year after

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Girls who like games outside of comic book based games, shitty visual novels and MMO's are probably all dykes.

Western devs never learned about subtlety and they also completely misunderstood what makes the Mythos work, i. e. hinting at greater evils, not showing them.

Please,do continue with more examples.

3 years
Then he got married to another one

tfw no EvE Online GF

she'd only act like a Holla Forumsirgin to steal your semen, user
don't fall for the tricks of the succubi

He had a Jewish wife, (((Sonia Green))). Which is funny considering his views were basically Holla Forums + cosmic nihilism.

I'll just leave this here as it seems a derail was inevitable

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Give me a moment.

You're not the only one, someone have a screencap of the cake crazed jew from when he fucked up?

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People should read more Dunsany.

Dunsany can suck a dick

You mean a trap? Girls don't play video games.

this is inaccurate and you know it

2/3rds of the mountains of madness was boring as fuck set up, it's not until the dogs and the one dude from the camp are found headless does the story pick up.

cthulhu is no longer cool or accepted in SJW geekdom, they finally got around to reading some more of his works and got giga-triggered by his descriptions of nonwhites so they hate him now, tolkien is quickly joining his side as another outdated old white cis male
I mean shadow over innsmouth is literally about the horrors of racemixing

Make one yourself then,the image is up there.

I'll fight you dubsman. I will fucking fight you.

Fuck you, Bride of the Man Horse is the single greatest work of modern fantasy.

It's fuckin true and you know, then the story dips back into boring setup for a bit when they enter the city, but it makes up for it when they go into the cave and find the penguins and the one living elderthing, and they lose their shit and escape useing the penguins.

I know you can't get enough of interracial porn, but there is none of that in Shadow over Innsmouth.

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Not bad,should have had a line of lewd text though,all the great ones have at least one.

Because Western Devs are obsessed with making you overcome everything and anything, while a lot of Lovecraft's work (along with, for example, Greek tragedies) is about being powerless to change some things – the protagonist endeavours to challenge the impossible, goes through extreme effort and suffering, and fails. This runs counter western narratives as it requires a certain degree of humility. It's a different mindset. Western mindset is "if God himself disagrees with me, then I will kill god!" while the one portrayed in such works is "I disagreed with God and tried to change something, I failed, lost everything I held dear in the process, and in the end, God didn't even notice me."

Are you fucking retarded? The entire moral is "don't fuck swamp people, they're actually fish."

That is one of my many fetishes

What I found weird in that story is that How the fuck could they so precisely describe the entire history of an ancient alien civilization by just reading carving on some walls in a few hours, like, how fucking lucky were you guys to land just next to their national museum where everything they ever did happen to be stored here, in a seemingly endless city

Yet ironically it's the Japs who like to kill God in their games.

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So the solution to avoid Holla Forums is just make their peepee wet?

I thought Eternal Darkness did a good job of capturing cosmic horror, even if the mechanics may be at odds with it at times. Actually I think the reason devs can't get Lovecraft adaptations down is due to the nature of the mythos being established considering the root of the horror comes from the fear of the unknown, and from my interpretation, things that cannot be known.

I wonder if it's like most western devs have never read lovecraft or something, surely that couldn't be it

I refuse

anything is possible when a vag is involved.

I don't think they even read one of his works, because in "The Shadow over Innsmouth" Lovecraft makes it a point to describe a nigger and his distance from humanity in full, glorious detail.

What a surprise
Tell me about all the other Lovecraftian inspired games the Japanese have made OP.

la monstruosidad…

It's important to realize that eastern religions put personal deities several ranks lower than fully abstract concepts. Same is true in Christianity but then Luther fucked all that up.

One of the more popular IPs in Japan, the Nasuverse, is heavily inspired by Lovecraftian mythology, especially when Types are referenced. Then you have the various Megami games, Silent Hill, etc.

To be fair, Japan more references lovecraft, as you can't say they understand the fucking tone.

I think Horror at Red Hook is the archetypical racist Lovecraft story, not Innsmouth. At any rate he was no more or less racist than his contemporaries and ended up marrying a Jewess.

No

How is it not? Dead Apostles and Types are very Lovecraftian, as is the fact that most people would not fare well if they discovered the things that lurk in the night, nor would a normal person survive an encounter with the supernatural.

Also, humanity is pretty much fucked.

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That's japanese games.

but games about killing god are baaaad

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Japs get it because they're fucked in the head. Slavs get it because Communism made them collectively depressed.

Moderm western soy males have no idea how to make lovecraftian cosmic horror work.

/agdg/ here, fucking dropped.

That's true. A lot of modern western stuff is about overcoming everything from having a superior ideology. It's likely influenced from Japanese media as they grew up with it.

Old western media used to be about being helpless to the fate given to you. The Wild Bunch comes to mind.

Guys, does the first Quake fit into "Western Devs making lovecraftian game"?

It's clearly inspired by it, but thematically doesn't really fit since you're busy shooting everything in the face.

I can sort of see it, but it's undeniably been perverted by localization and social conditioning, and it goes without saying that an imitation isn't going to be better than the real thing.

Why does nearabout everyone suck Lovecraft's dick? So much crybaby bullshit over "muh stories were ruined by X developer how dare they make models with textures, don't they know Gzzuchtuach can't be seen by mortals?!?!!?". It's a videogame for fucks sakes.

Nobody cares that your special club was ruined by reddit (even though lovecraft was hipstershit going back decades). Stop tacking 'lovecraftian' onto anything remotely horror, fear of the unknown is a constant throughout the horror genre.

inb4 he was based because he held commonly accepted opinions on race for his time so you have to worship him for being epically based based


Yeah i'm sure it was the phytoestrogens that made people make games that upset you…

the rightest post in the thread

The wrongest post in the thread.

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I WANT YOU NORMALFAGS TO LEAVE
Or at least have decency to hide for fucks sake

Lovecraft has become a checkbox for "nerds" to tick. None of these idiots have actually read his stuff. The way these fakers choose to represent Lovecraft's concepts is "gross tentacle monsters with a lot of hit points".

Also, a huge part of Lovecraft's writing is the basic hypnotic trick of letting your memory fill in the blanks. This generally doesn't work on something as explicit as video games.

Another factor is that Lovecraft depends on the mood induced. The most common mood Western devs try to invoke is White guilt and CY shit.

>>>/cuckchan/

You could tell DCotE had potential to be one of the greatest Lovecraft games but was fucking annihilated by Bethesda's "suggestions" and deadlines.

It works just fine, otherwise games like Amnesia wouldn't have been popular. Just as a bitch-basic example, a scene where you have to escape from Cthulhu would be very effective if there were nonvisual cues to his presence, like sound and perhaps tentacles lashing out around from behind you, but you aren't allowed to turn around and look at him because you go insane and fail to escape if you do. People are simply too used to games fulfilling a power fantasy instead of just telling or creating an interesting story.

Epic post my fellow redditor, only 1890's kids will understand the true and honest Lovecraft. To be fair, you need a very high IQ to understand H.P Lovecraft.

Nice virtue signalling bro

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You raging shitskins sure are ugly.

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t. shitskin

t. el goblino

I get it, you're a filthy brown cunt and the only way you can feel better is by pretending everyone else is a shitskin like you. Your comics are still just projection and an annoying waste of space.

Back to reddit, nigger.

I get it. You're butthurt because you're not white

"GRR I HATE THESE 56% PERCENT MEMES SO MUCH ITS A SHILL RAID BY THE SHAREBLUE JIDF"
Sometimes I feel a little bad about bullying the mentally ill amerimutts

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Isn't the whole point that she can't code for shit ?

Are Holla Forums shitposters self aware?

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Typical nigger.

Hey, you done googling the definitions yet? I wanna see you next image.

>twists the definition of white to his favor doesn't know the definition of white
Typical angry mutt grasping at straws.

Contain the butthurt and go tell Mohammed how non white he is unwind

Holy shit nuke this fucking thread.

Let me speak your language:
OOGA BOOGA UV DUMB BIX NOOD


Yup, definitely brown. Did you finish googling it yet?

Or you could just report the goons obviously trying to disrupt the board and this thread in particular.

The best Cosmic Horror media i've ever consumed was actually the Forerunner Halo books even if you don't give a flying shit about the series I highly recommend them: They take place 100k years before the actual games do so they might as well be totally unrelated.

They start out as sort of dry, dense sci fi, where a huge part of the first book is just world building of the protagonist being bored of life, and it goes into an insane amount of detail about their society, social classes, andt echnology. The author does a fantastic job of actually making their technology, biology, and society feel truly alien and logically connected to each other: There's tons of tech that's not really analogous to anything IRL, and that feels actually novel and esoteric, vs just "guns but that shoot lasers" or "telvisions but holograms" like in most sci fi; and their biology is also totally unlike anything on earth; and their society is described/designed in such a way that it actually feels like their culture has existed with this insanely weird advanced tech for tens of thousands of years with how entrenched stuff like genetic manipulation, FTL travel, and consciousness copying and all the weird shit I alluded to is as normal and society is intertwined with them as we are IRL with metallurgy or radio waves

The scale involved are also insane, the books cover thousands of years and the characters and events they referenced have lived/go back for tens of thousands of years; and there's as much a theme of mysticism as there is sci fi from the start, so the two combined end up giving everything the feeling of this biblical/ancient epic. And since, as mentioned, this is a society that's had and used FTL travel as mundanely as we use radio waves for that time, the distances involved are also huge, and unlike in typical sci fi, they don't downplay how fucking huge it really is: Planets aren't just the equivalent of countries like in most science fiction, the insane distances between star systems is still felt and important.

So there's all of that stuff, from the protagonist being bored with life, from the society and technology being explained in such detail, plus having the context for the massive amounts of timescales and distances this society covers, makes it all the more effective when shit hits the fan, and everything spirals further and further into psychological and cosmic horror themes. The last book reads like the craziest, most batshit parts of the bible mixed with science fiction, lovecraft and junji ito.

The ones where the retards writing it make the Forerunners and Humans completely different entities?
No, it's shit

man I love the taste of butthurt Holla Forumsyps in the morning

Wait, what are humans in the lore now according to the books? Aren't they supposed to be direct descendants of the forerunners?
Mind you I only have a passing knowledge of the lore because of a friend, so most of this shit seemed retarded to me anyway.

You nu-Holla Forums fuckers need to chill. The Amerimutt meme is just bants, you pathetic niggerlovers.
Get a fucking sense of humor, you absolute disgraces.

You claimed NO U when all you're doing is shifting the "YOU'RE NOT WHITE" towards me. You'd think it's not that hard to accept. If you meant projection in regards to "you're not white" then say that in the first place. Shit skin shouldn't be an impediment to proper expression :^)
You calling for help from your tribe?


Yeah what a surprise.

Fucking kill yourself.

They're different species
Instead of Humans Haloing themselves to the Stone Age, the Forerunners were instead an Alien race that brought the humans to the Stone Age and Haloed themselves to death.

Halo 4 also goes with this shit despite the Bungie trilogy obviously pointing out that Humans could use Forerunnner technology because the Forterunners were humans themselves.
It completely undermines the lore, the only good paperback Halo is the fucking Graphic novel.

Funny considering I am an American myself. I seriously don't understand how the other retards get so upset over these bantz even as they laugh at Germanistan, the United Cuckdom, Ausfailia, etc.

That's the most retarded thing I've read all day. That's saying a lot considering I read the shitskin's posts in this thread.

There's been literally no other country free of banter.
But ohh, mutts get offended

Not being spammed ad nauseum by unfunny niggers is part of the reason.

Read the thread. I posted two images and everyone's panties got in a twist :^)

Bants are supposed to be based on something factual. Humor loses its substance if it isn't based on anything. White people are the least likely to have interracial marriages in the U.S., but there are more of them in an absolute sense simply because there are so many.
Imagine if I walked into an Australia thread and made fun of all Australians for being forest burning cavemen. It wouldn't be funny, it would just be stupid and annoying because only Abos do that. It's the same feeling you get when you see someone trying really hard to be funny even though they aren't.

They don't understand that it's annoying when it's posted in an unrelated thread, they're not smart enough to. These people take every opportunity to post those images and it's annoying to an insane degree.

Don't forget, the forerunners aren't even the oldest race, that would be the PRECURSORS. And they turned themselves into the flood in an attempt to artificially evolve into the ultimate life-form.

You're already at 10 and you've derailed the thread, at least make fun of them for being a minority in less than 20 years you unfunny shitty pricks.

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Would've been at 2 if you hadn't kept me going. I don't get anything out of posting it other than funny angry reactions
Entirely on you.

devout christian gf is a good girl!

Here we see an actual amerimutt butthurt because the meme is too accurate. White American here, I see people who look like the mutt every single fucking day. The dark skin is usually Italian or native American influence though, not nigger crossbreeding.

How the fuck do you turn yourself into a spore zombie trying to evolve? Was it literally;

Unfunny nigger is a cuckchanner that can't even into IDs.
What a surprise

That's pretty much how it went. They created the flood spore/virus/whatever and went full-tubes.

Sure (((you))) are. These memes aren't even accurate, the standard ugly American is essentially a fat german/Irish combo, tall wobbly and with stringy red blond hair

You is a plural word as well. Did your race mixing dilute your understanding of your own language?

Ignoring the fact that America is an extremely large place – third largest on the planet, in fact – and that you probably live somewhere like Los Angeles, do you really think that your statement is meaningful at all? I'm Bibi Netanyahu and I'm posting this from my secret child rape cellar. Prove me wrong; oh wait, you can't. Checkmate.

Do you faggots not go outside? Unless you live in Whiteville, USA, in which case you are blessed by God himself, there are tons of mutts everywhere. I see plenty of disgusting little shits that look like they were ripped straight out of one of the Amerimutt memes.

I just don't get why they keep posting pictures of mexicans.

Is Crimson jacking off or something?


I knew you were a shitty goon from the get go
This just proves it really

I feel like this is the reason lore and books shouldn't be a part of an FPS series as simple as Halo. There's nothing wrong with just having it be about a super soldier blowing up an ancient doomsday device.

I wanted this thread to derail into cute ideal gf pictures,not this garbage.

Land of the offended

I live as far from Los Angeles as you can possibly live while still being within America's borders. The mutt exists. Visit any of our numerous towns where the only work is blue collar manufacturing or retail, and the busiest street is the one Walmart and McDonald's is on. You'll see hundreds of these inbreds, and these towns are spread evenly across the country. Geographical location doesn't matter. You just have to visit some place that isn't a metropolitan tourist trap to see what I mean.

Suicide works wonders for severly autistic people, user.

The reason the lore books shouldn't exist at all is because the mystery and subtlety is part of it.
It's why the Covenant went to shit with Halo 2 and why the atmosphere from the first ones is completely lacking in the two sequels

You're the same bunch of autists spamming Soywojack like the newfags you are.
You post exactly like them, it's fucking amazing really, no self awareness.

Same niggers who also made the swiftly deleted thread complaining about Kakeboi as well no doubt.
Man, I missed you guys during the weekend.

So you're an easily butthurt mutt AND a Nintendrone? Talk about redundant lol.

The only autists are you and the rest of the mutts who are too offended to ignore a single banter.
Congratulations, other countries can get banters, but you're the special princess. Queen of the race mixed.

You're a real fuckin winner.

The Jew is immunized against all dangers: one may call him a scoundrel, parasite, swindler, profiteer, it all runs off him like water off a raincoat.
But call him a Jew and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back

PRÁ FOGUEIRA CARALHO

Lovecraft is the horror of being insignificant and the west is full on 'trophy for participation generation' now and think people only want power fantasies. They literally lack the capacity to understand.

Might as well post this last one so it's "somewhat" related

Keep on posting, I gotta keep milking you for every lul I can have.

YOU are the one recoiling and shrieking about the amerimutt meme you stupid fucker. By that quote's logic, you are exposing yourself as one.

great retort

My fucking god this whole thread, from king faggot OP himself down to every last reply, should be fucking nuked.

You reaching the limits of your programming there, panie? I hope you do realize that this entire thread derail is your fault, because you and your ilk can't stop autistically screeching about a bunch of fucking memes.

It’s a meme direct from Cuckchan /int/, but keep pretending that it’s fits in here.
Its also unaesthetic as fuck

Pretty much
Cuckchanners stick to cuckchan tier threads like flies on shit.

It's the butthurt that keeps on giving. If it didn't fit you wouldn't be here replying to me along with the entire thread. Well done proving your own point wrong.
You certainly are. That's the point. Just look at it.

“Hey guys, lets talk about Lovecraft.”
“Reeeeeeee, accept my fucking meme.”
“Fucking Americans, even though the thread isn’t about Americans I’m going to let you know how fucking shit Americans are.”
Is keeping a thread on topic to tall an order for you faggots?

You know what's the biggest problem with people trying to ape Lovecraft? Them trying to go with the idea of "you look at it and you go insane", when the idea of "things too complicated for the human mind to understand" was present with Lovecraft, his writing was not about that. It was the idea that our world was unimportant, and that our struggles are in vain. This was the main reason why characters went insane in the first place, not the contact with otherwordly beings in itself although that definitely had it's own effect too.

It's because every other type of horror has been done to death already, and although Lovecraftian horror is slowly getting there too, it isn't as done to death as for example ghosts or demons.

Let me tell you something, it’s not butthurt. The meme of “Haha, u look so ugly, rofl.”
Only works on nigs and other groupthink races.
I know I look nothing like that, you know I look nothing like that, it is only banter.
The reason people hate it is because it’s something that is shoved in peoples faces that is ugly as fuck. It’s like posting fucking Goatse or Tubgirl every day. This will be the last (you) I’ll give to you.

Are you fucking serious? Have you ever seen an anime based off of Lovecraft's works? I don't mean "I N S P I R E D" by him, I mean ones directly based off his stories. The ones I've seen turn his characters and scenarios into cutesy bullshit that's so popular over there.
How can you even claim westerners don't get the ideas of a fucking western author? By that logic he wouldn't have understood his own work.

Cause he's a fucking retard like everyone else ITT.

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I want to see this. I'm not sure why, I know it'll annoy me, but I really want to see it.

nigger don't you dare shit on nyaruko

No,you do not.

That's where you're wrong.
Just like many things on this board that are ugly and shoved up people's faces. Oh, except this one makes fun of your 56%
Do keep trying to rationalize the huge irrational outrage over two images tho :^) As if memes were supposed to be "aesthetic."
Pathetic

Here


Why?
It's bland garbage even while doing it's own thing

Bloodborne was the only game that did Eldritch horror well.

I think the problems comes from Horror not really being a thing anymore. Media HAS to have a happy ending, the hero HAS to conquer the challenge. The monster has to be explained or people are upset, they're afraid to let their imagination do some work. Media is no longer a transaction between the author and reader, it's becoming much more author focused, and quite frankly horror does not work without the audience's input.

Also, the depictions of "insanity" are what make me most mad. Insanity is not developing a twitch and getting an imaginary best friend, the characters in Lovecraft would go insane only after years and years of carrying a secret, something no one will ever believe and will accuse you of being a lunatic if you attempt to prove it, as you KNOW you can't prove it. Insanity is not magic stupidity, it's a really solid thing that needs to be developed. Seeing a scary monster does not make you insane, it's not being able to see it again.

I wish this thread didn't get derailed so fast.I have a lot of opinions about this, it really pisses me off to see Lovecraft done poorly. I don't think it's necessarily Western devs, that new lovecraft game looks like it has potential. the story is a murder mystery, not a story about finding cthulu. It's solving a murder, and maybe we shouldn't solve it.

No

I guess I should clarify that to "Only game i've played that did eldritch horror well"

Plenty of chicks are into Nintendo games.

No need to clarify, that was fucking obvious

Nigger, why the fuck are you pointing to something that is an obvious affectionate parody of his works as proof that they don't get Lovecraft? That's like you saw a comedy poking fun at vampires and saying that the creators do not get vampires because the vampires are not scary. That's exactly the fucking point you dense retard.

that meme tries too hard

What other games have done it well?

see

I would argue that Darkest Dungeon, you fight the eldritch abominations sure, but in the end, it is all completely for naught.

I can see that, but that'd mostly be just Zelda. They're mostly into MMO's and mobile games.

Oh and walking simulators like Layers of Fear.

Darkest Dungeon is so hard to compare, it's not a traditional narrative, and unless you're really willing to invest yourself to the story, there's not enough in it.

I also put like 150 hours into it so I stopped seeing it for the overall piece of work and just saw the game.

It emulates this overall feeling of dread though really well.


I can't wait til people start getting mad theres no girl sport games.

To be honest, Outer Gods, Great Old Ones and Elder Gods showing up as cute anime girls is probably one of the scariest derivations I've seen of Lovecraft's work in terms of implications.

I assume that's referring to the original Alone in the Dark? I'll be honest the only Alone in the Dark game I played was the 360 gen one. Needless to say I did not like it.

Yes, good

Will they, though? They haven't gotten mad about it so far. They're just not interested.
It's like women protesting there's no females in IT. It's a comfortable desk job. Nobody's complaining there's no women in construction work.

EA adds Female leagues to FIFA now

You know, you're kind of right. I never thought about it like that until now. No wonder I wish I were the cute girl, even the terrifying unimaginable elder gods want to be cute grills

Truly,i am a degenerate.

Quit taking the bait, dumbass. Everyone knows it's bullshit, white Americans are white as hell. 56% is only 56% of Americans being white, and that's the issue. Nobody actually thinks white Americans are only 56% white. The guy isn't even a good troll, no subtlety or cleverness whatsoever, but you fags keep swallowing that shit up hook, line, and sinker. Stop.

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Forerunners and humans were established as different species in Halo 3's terminals, with Librarian calling earth special because of "them". Having them be directly related was the original plan, but that changed at some point, possibly even before CE for all we know.

What 343 did was take that and ramp it up to ridiculous extremes because the new writers wanted to make humans into a species of chosen ones. Bungie humanity were underdogs, cavemen that just happened to have an alien grow fond enough of them to hand over the housekeys before her civilization was wiped out. 343 humanity is objectively the greatest species in the galaxy, genetically destined to just shit on everyone.

Well you got me. I actually didn't think they'd care.

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Of course no women are actually playing them now.

Sometimes I actually wonder whether Lovecraft wouldn't actually like this seeing that if he was born in today's world, he would be probably shitposting with us looking at the way he acted and his asocial tendencies.

Doesn't matter really matter anyway
Bungie fucked up masterfully with Halo 2 and ruined most of the lore anyway, from giving the Covenant a human like background and behaviour/thought process to the fucking Gravemind.

The first and third Halo games were decent games, everything else was garbage honestly and Halo's 3 lore was already fucked hard.

Everyone as in yourself
Funny guy, you!

You know, I think i'm really fucked up, but then I see people like you and it makes me feel better. Atleast I'm not THAT fucked.


I just think it's seen in modern horror movies too. Modern movies do such a poor job of instilling a sense of fear. It's all jump scares and shock horror. I'm sure i'll get called a faggot for this on here, but Get Out was the only recent horror movie to scare me without using jump scares the entire time. There was a real sense of fear.

Scary games are the same way, there's no time to fear, there's no time to speculate and let your imagination create the horror, the monster is usually just shown to you right off the bat, and explained, and the movie/game is trying to kill it, and jump scares come from that.

Layers of Fear was all just jump scares and some shock horror, I couldn't get into it.

Japs in general just love using western mythology, including Crowley occultism and Lovecraft's stories. Even if they don't portray it accurate to the original myth and are just namedropping they at least make it look cool.
For Lovecraft in particular, it would be because they're used to not resolving plot problems/conflicts (the good guy loses or there is a cliffhanger in many old samurai movies), and they're good at spewing chuu2 schlock with complicated words that at least looks like LC's stuff.

You're right, Japs love referencing stuff just for the sake for referencing stuff. I have no idea how they do it and make it look cool or funny while the mainstream western media does it constantly and makes it look like a retarded and tired fucking meme

go back

Why are you so retarded you reply,you're giving him what he wants.

He's a mutt. He can't help it.


Try again.

>>>/cuckchan/

kek i'm not even a burger, your meme is just shit and belongs on cuckchan

I've actually seen some ID hopping and replying to themselves just to derail lad.

Because 99.9999% of all Westren Devs that like Lovecraft are the retarded, lefty,hipster,"I'm such a Geek!"-type who are also landwhales 60-70% of the time as well. Just look at ANY game made by some group in the US and or Canada compared to the Slavic ones.

Also there is a Japanese Claymation, no seriously, that some guy made with a few others. I would post it but I think the file size is too big/not supported.

It was bretty gud

just reminding you that you should go back to cuckchan before filtering you :^)

Yeah, usually where you see that shitty meme spammed it's just manufactured controversy. Same faggot posting then pretends to be upset. I mean, come on, he's got 27 of them ready to go.

Also pay attention for any thread that makes a differentiation between or calls attention to how "the West" handles things in the thread title when that's not even relevant to the subject. It's a pretty clever piece of propaganda, but Kremlin/Kike subhumans always show their patterns. Make your enemies fight each other, spread divisions, break up the EU and USA…

That is awful fucking idea. I cant stand interacting with all of you faggots on a daily basis, never mind date a one.

Nah, OP is likely just a weeaboo cuckchan crossposter.
And these half a dozen fags have been shitting up the board for months now.
They use the same tactics and lingo, it's honestly amazing how fucking autistic they are.
They stopped posting on the weekend and soon after the DDOS and the board became nearly clean as a whistle.

Replied to say the exact same thing.

I won't deny it's pretty bland and a DESU SUGOI kind of show but it's funny and has the best qt's, that makes up for it right?
sage for off topic

Even so, it pays to be aware of the tactics and what's going on - this serves (((their))) purpose whether the Goons getting a cheap laugh out of it know that or not.

Oh come on it's not that extreme, i mean think of the uses of all those tentacles.

Nah, at least Konosuba can be both funny and cute.


It's likley just a bunch of autistic revolt or goonsaloon edgelords.
They'll tire themselves eventually

Somehow i doubt that. Could be the fact that it's been 3 years and this board is a shadow of what it once was, yet they still feel the need to shitpost en mass.

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if you start hating on konosuba nigger I will beat you

It'd be less entertaining for them if people just filtered them on site and didn't hand out any (you)s. The other user was right in that often they'll play both sides, hop IPs and reply to themselves to give the impression there's an actual argument going on instead of some retard replying to himself. Still, just filter them and move on. Report if they're spamming an unrelated thread.


Race and politics aside, it's a problem having fags come here and sockpuppet to derail threads.

The usual.

That's true, it can still be a comfy shithole when it wants to though, and it's still better than most places I know of.
Nah lad, these fags aren't the cuckchan crossposters.
This wave of fags is fairly recent

Konosuba is shit because
it deviated a little too much from the novels and we'll never get a season 3 with the romance subplots

My man of fellow taste.

Not really but I've gone off topic enough. have an actual related video I watched 7 years ago.

The anime is ok but I prefer the novel in all honesty, the characters also look ten times better in every aspect
>tfw no megumin gf

What a fucking tragedy that we won't get that thing that is endemic to every fucking anime ever and sucks 80% of the time.

Sounds like you're just in denial that your waifu isn't real and that she's taking the cock of the MC of her corresponding anime.

Jokes on you, I don't have a waifu
Anime romance is just the cringiest shit.

I am intrigued and aroused

Removed. Try not to reply next time, faggots.

It sounds retarded, but it works really well in the context of the forerunner novels, which is a trend: A lot of the stuff in it sounds absolutely retarded and batshit crazy, but the author pulls it off and makes it work, but it'll sound like the dumbest shit ever if you try to explain it.

If you like cosmic horror, super in depth science fiction, and crazy mysticism shit, just read them, don't try to spoil yourself because everything wiill just sound stupid.


While I agree with your criticisms that 343 has shifted the tone of the lore from humanityt being underdogs to being on top, and that's made the overall state of the universe a lot worse, they aren't really the "choosen ones" either. The scene in Halo 4 (which to be clear, Halo 4's story is awful) people think indicates that was really just the librarian saying that she pushed humanity into developing power armor and AI's via a Geas (which is one of those esoteric pieces of tech which is really hard to explain, which is why 343 shouldn't have tried in 4, it was bound to be misunderstood), not that MC as an indivual was destined.

You fags somehow manage to be more cancerous then 343 apologists.

All that a xeno deserves is a good genocide. Naturally, Bungie cucked out of giving the Covenant races what they deserve.

Most of the west has no devs. Only leftist propagandists (i.e sub-human failures), so no quality work will come from them.
True talented people get it right.

Found the turd that pretends he reads.

Halo fans are pathetic cuckholds, I hope 343 keeps raping your favorite franchise.


American ones
Europe still has plenty of devs that make good games and don't fall for SanFran/Montreal SJW tier antics.

Except Sweden of course

It's always fun reading up on people from the past, getting a feel for who they were and realizing they would most likely have ended up on imageboards like us.

That doesn't even make any sense, what the fuck are you talking about? Just shitting on 343 for the hell of it?

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Nobody gets Lovecraft except for Lovecraft. We can only fathom what he was thinking when he wrote about a cat called Niggerman. His mind was an anomaly, filled with strangeness, and his writings are truly impenetrable by even the sharpest of intellects. Truly Lovecraft was too smart for his own time.

Bin that knife

The only Eternal Sonata I know is a JRPG, tell me more.

lovecraft touches on themes that are completely alien to western devs due to intense brainwashing, like fear of the unknown and fear of the other

*Eternal Darkness, whatever the fuck that gamecube game was calle.

That's the one. Fucked with you in fun ways like showing your characters die out of nowhere.

But those are known. How many of these unsociable city faggots were taught to not talk to strangers?

Then why are Reclaimers only Humans you massive cocksucker?
Why does everything point towards that fact on Halo 1 when the hacks at Bungie didn't try to teleport their garbage characters after every level and actually make a coherent plot?

Fucking hell, arguing with Halo cocksuckers is nearly as bad as arguing with Blizzcucks and Dotards, fucking mentally ill autistic niggers with no fucking taste, I swear.

that's funny

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Give me 5 good American developed games released in the last 5 years.

who
who
shipping an unfinished game where they lied about the content is now a good thing
who
who
AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA
who
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

As expected
I'm sure you defend MGSV though

They actually said they'd have to remove certain things like the weapon forging.
They're insanely successful and witcher 3 is pretty decent, I personally couldn't get into it but it's not bad at all.
You're just mad because American devs make shit like Fallout 4 or Mass effect Andromeda.

just take the L kid

If that's the best argument you can come up with no one is going to take you seriously. Also, while Kingdom Come isn't all that it was hyped up to be, it still is one of the most ambitious games in quite a while.


But he gave you examples you stupid faggot, it's just that failed to make a valid counterpoint.

You might want to take a trip to cuckchan and stay there.
They love non arguments and rhetoric there

pretty embarrassing, nothing works and they keep having to remove shit. when's the next 20GB patch?
I'd be successful too if I could hire a boatload of sanfran hipsters to make my shitty current year knock-off sephiroth book adaptation game, all on the polish governments time. It's a terrible game that gets basic game design wrong.


it's an open world rpg in an engine designed for open world games and has an assload of bugs. Very ambitious, keeping with genre traditions too.

no, he listed some nobody studios that have done nothing good, and a few god awful studios that have produced pure garbage.


hi vavra

Oke you pathetic smartass. Name some American devs that make good games.

I'd tell you some if I knew any american devs that produced good games. keep changing those goalposts :^)

Bye Holla Forums

Oh so your argument is that everything is is terrible. Way to discredit yourself. Back to cuckchan with you,

You can only pretend to be an idiot for so long. When Shogun 1 came out it was something new and fresh, and it was an incredible game to play. GTA 3 might not have been the first fully 3D open world game, but it was the first one that had gameplay that was cohesive enough and direction. As for CDPR, they make well written games, the gameplay might not be the best, but they know how to write a story.

nope


I reacted to the ones that weren't nobody studios because they were laughable, you aren't very smart. The ones that are nobodies should be obvious, use those brain cells, c'mon big boy 74 IQ, show me what you can do.

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whoa

I won't deny the insane amount of bugs but it's still a very fun and enjoyable game. About the removing, I'm not sure why they did that so I don't go too far into it but I think it's because of time restraints. It's an extremely ambitious game made by an indie studio funded on Kickstarter, I expected a shittier game than it already was.
I didn't notice much bad about it, it seemed like a well-rounded rpg. Elaborate, please.

I played both Witcher 2 and 3 have yet to play 1 and I found the combat to be fine, am I autistic or something?

The combat isn't bad per se, it just isn't anything that special, and it's quite easy to exploit by spamming certain powers and rolling around like a tard.

Non of your post provide any argument but only serve to tell how everything and everyone is shit. Thus you are an agitator and deserve to be banned.
Reported.

no, you might actually be or you've literally only ever played absolute shit. If I had to guess your first experience with video games was on the xbox 360 with the elder scrolls oblivion, and a few years following that you got seriously into games and started posting on message boards about them.


weren't you the guy who thought because I said eurotrash devs are trash I must think that american devs are good? I'd be down to argue if you could provide a real argument instead of crying about how something else is bad too.

You know why half this thread has deleted posts?
Goon shitters like him
Stop replying nigger, you won't get a single argument back.

Yeah, thinking back to how it worked you're probably not wrong. I'm shit at games so I always died easily though. I'll just roll next time I play witcher 3 On top of that I play games mostly for the story, especially when it comes to a fucking rpg.

Gta with my brothers actually, you're not about to start saying oblivion is bad too surely?

Yeah, I would but I can't resist also it makes loading times on this game I'm playing a lot less long spamming out shit here

I was close, and I'm being 100% genuine here and I'm not trying to talk shit – it was a 3D GTA, right? I'm trying to get a framework on what you know and how you think.

level scaling in an RPG is an absolute disaster, yes, and Oblivion is ripe with god awful design like that.

But TES4 is by far the worse TES game and just because it has a few interesting concepts in some quests that don't even spice up gameplay doesn't mean anything.

GTA vice city and San Andreas.

I enjoyed it the most though

Get out

No one doing video games writes "Lovecraftian" stuff well.
The only living person who does, at least that I'm aware of, is Thomas Ligotti, and you could make a case that even he doesn't really qualify (the element of wonder that's present even in Lovecraft's horror and the central element in his Dream Cycle isn't really found in Ligotti, and where it is it's more perverse).

Found the pleb.

I suffered through the last Legacy of Kain game for the writing, and if you're playing Fallout for the gameplay you're doing it wrong.

I honestly don't want to bother with remembering what else was trash since it triggers my PTSD.

There's being able to enjoy games for their story and their atmosphere and then there's enjoying all games mostly for their story.

Right, so 3D ones. So you essentially don't know anything about video games. Not even (41) is willing to stand by your shit taste, but he's not a very bright person considering the horses he backs.

it has been ages since I last played either, I'll replay them again soon.

The gameplay on Kotor 1 and 2 were pretty shitty the game itself on 2 without the restoration patch is a piece of shit but the story was great and so were the characters and dialogue.

Please excuse my lack of elite-ness in video games. I did play Action Man: Operation Extreme when I was younger, that's a good game at least.
You sound like a tremendous faggot by the way
Taleworlds, mount and blade franchise. They're Turkish and make better games than burgers. bannerlord when

Atmosphere and level design?
Cyrodiil as presented in Oblivion is generic fantasy greeland number 300.

mediocre but here we are, so they released one good game 10 years ago and they've been milking it since. Bannerlord has a lot to prove if whether or not the studio is really one trick pony or not. So far they seem to be.

lol

hows it being assmad for 43 posts

How the fuck is mount and blade mediocre? What games do you fucking play then? bannerlord will probably flop at this rate honestly, hopefully not though seeing as warband was a good game

physically irritated
Since when does combat need to be super intricate as well? Dark souls has combat that is literally circle around your enemy, backstab and roll.

dark souls combat is also shit, the series relying on its combat more and more is why its gotten so awful.

how isn't an empty sandbox for GSG kids to larp in mediocre? Are we talking about the memorable quests that totally aren't just talk to X person and then talk to Y person or fetchquest some butter for me m'lord? Or are we talking the pathetic battles which have the enemies battling your ineffective armies while you handle 70% of the work because god knows your allies can't do shit. What part about this is anything but mediocre? The combat is pretty fun, although simple as you said. It gets to be a mind numbing experience in sieges which are handled absolutely abhorrently.

You couldn't win 2 duel matches if you tried

It's not particularly hard. So I found out how to bypass a filterfag and a rulecuck just by calling his precious game mediocre. It's a very easy game too, you need better taste.

You're just being a contrarian now. Next, you'll be saying that quake, doom, system shock, they're all shit because haha
I played it my self and my AI allies did plenty of work, in fact, they usually did more than me.

What games do you enjoy?

I rarely filter people if you're referring to me, on top of that, that's not bypassing it. It's like someone gives you the admin password and you go
HAHA I HAVE BYPASSED THE MAINFRAME, WE'RE IN LADS

I like all of those
I'm not even sure how this is possible except by choosing to sacrifice them by not fighting at all.

play dmc3se with the style switcher mod

I'm not, I'm referring to (44)

DmC 3 is button mashing repetitive spergfest with unfunny shitty tryhard characters.

So you say we all have shit taste and then say you play smash a and b button games?
What.
good
By using my brain and also using the F1-34? commands, chances are you're just shit.

I'd prefer a nyarko gf

how to identify someone who's never played these games in his life


keep shitting up the thread :^)

I really hope thats a trap.

It's pretty overrated but Bayonetta is MUCH worse as far as button mashing goes.

I have played one, don't remember which one. Not too sure what dmd mode is so maybe not the one you mentioned. Either way your taste in games is fucking shite.

judging from your taste, you're a big fan of dmcdmc.

That was the one I played, it was pretty fucking shit.

No. But this is.

Of course it was shit, it was by Europeans.

OP is a crossposting cuckchanner
You're doing this board a favor with your faggotry
Thanks laddeh
Also every Clover/Platinum button mashing is fucking trash and so are most of your favorite Nip devs that you fellate.

how'd I get past your filter by the way? You were crying for a little bit there.

Is that you user?

It his dad

(checked)
We're all user here fam

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Dark Corners of the Earth is probably the best Cthulhu game, despite its issues.

Is there any series or doujin with a trap father?

90% of these fuckers haven't even read The Call of Cthulu and they're just going off what they know or heard from EBIN MAY MAYS. Also, fuck Call of Cthulu, The Color out of Space was a way better read.

Isn't Ubishit french?
Along with Sweden (that only produces failures for low-T sub-humans), Europe does not look any better.

Ubisoft's main development studio is in Montreal

cthulu is reddit-tier numale garbage. It's right up there with "steam punk" and handle-bar mustaches.

seriously, it's fag shit.

I think the closest I've seen was the dad turning into a loli and fucking his son.

Sounds like we have a nigger love here

/agdg/ here, fixed it for you.

It's true, only a very small portion of his work is what is recognized as lovecraftian, and it's not even his best work. His more mundane works like rats in the walls and medusa's coil are better than his "It was the most horrific thing I have ever seen it was so horrifying I can't even describe how horrifying it was :^)" horror.

He was very ambitious but he did a shit job of expressing his ideas and used incomprehensible terror as a crutch. I haven't read his letters nor all of his novels because he wrote a shitload, but all of my favorites were much closer to earth.

The Rats in the Walls is pretty archetypal Lovecraft. The protagonist learns secrets that drive him mad, there's a hereditary taint of degeneracy, it's just the particulars of those things are a bit more mundane than he often writes about. There's also stuff like The Silver Key that isn't even horror and the Dream-Quest of Unknown Kadath that blends that style with his more recognizable horror.
All that is Lovecraftian, the same spirit runs through it all. It's the derivative works that fail to be Lovecraftian, because they fail to capture what was common to all his work.

I've wanted a video game based off Dream-Quest of Unknown Kadath for years.

That's true, but was that style of supernatural horror really unique to lovecraft at the time?

Nope, Dunsany did it first.

Women don't know what they want and never will

Why do people go on incessantly about Lovecraft but haven't read any of his stuff; which if you did you'd realize that he was a poor imitation of better writers that came before him. Like holy fucking shit man how many adjectives can you cram into a fucking sentence?

Neither of you understand what is fundamentally lovecraftian themes. It doesn't require Cthulu, or aquatic otherworldly beings to be a lovecraftian theme. It's the nature of the otherwordly, and nearly unexplainable supernatural or otherwordly elements that end up driving the main character and anyone else associated either mad, or into ruination and left a corrupted mess.

It was popularized and remembered mostly from him.

It's not that the west doesn't understand it, it's that extreme leftists either seek to subvert his work because he was a "racist", or insist on putting in a happy ending of salvation or the hero surviving and being better for it, or some other ridiculous notion, which runs against the tone of lovecrafts work. Even in his more mundane works like Herbert West-Reanimator, the protagonist(s) either end up dead, or mentally scarred from their choices.

.t buttflustered redditor who just can't handle that no one loves marx and soy lattes.

Here's an idea. Go further than 5 pages in any Lovecraft story (and that's generous) and you'll encounter his vivid racism.
Westerns are more repulsed by racism far more than any Eastern devs. So I'd argue that Eastern devs would have more of chance at actually understanding the themes of Lovecraft rather than just looking at le Cthulhu and the pretty book covers.

Yeah, because the guy who literally created a genre that has influenced countless writers and artists alike needs to be perfect in any which way imaginable.

Lovecraft's strength was his consistency of this universe. The otherworldly beings (or at least the ones that interact with humans) all have a distinct calling card. Not to mention the creation mythos as proposed by his works is consistent with the future creations of his writings. The fact that excerpts of R'Leyhian actually measure up to one another is also an awesome thing. The guy literally created a fully functioning parallel universe.


It's his blatant racism and xenophobia that made cosmic horror real. Innsmouth would not have been as disturbing as it was if not for a veil of racism

Report leftists such as this one.


Also, remember that racism against non–whites is a good thing.
Never use racism as a derogatory term. It is a compliment.

protip: tolkien was about a thousand times worse than lovecraft for this and nobody gives a shit because a good story is a good story

Call of Cthulhu: Dark Corners of the Earth understands Lovecraft better than any weeb game, which are usually great games, but just mindlessly ape the aesthetics of the monster design.

Call of Cthulhu: Dark Corners of the Earth understood how to make a lovecraft game.
They didn't just auto game-over you for getting caught. They let you get beat/shot to death. It was a stealth game where you had to sneak to escape, and you couldn't just hide behind a box to be safe (most of the time). They let you fight stuff, had good pacing for escalation but still made your victory seem like a defeat.

I don't mean it in that sense at all. I've often thought his descriptions of characters to be that much more tied to reality when he ties the racial angle to it. Hell, some of my favourite exerts from him are "aquatic negro" and "hatefully negroid mouth."

It's really a shame he didn't venture much into the characteristics of jews in his stories (not to mention he married one).

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Video Games existed in the west before Y2K you stupid fucking piece of SHIT

Please read the Dream-Quest of Unknown Kadath. I'm tired of people saying that things Lovecraft himself wrote can't be done in a Lovecraft-inspired story.

I can't be the only one who had to suppress minor giggling while reading The Rats In The Walls whenever Nigger-Man was brought up

I thought your pic was a dinosaur roaring in silhouette at first.
And yeah, it's a shame Lovecraft never touched on the JQ. It would have been hilarious.


Lovecraft was doing the cinematic universe shit before it was cool, across disparate stories and whatnot. Other writers had done similar, with stuff like Conan or Holmes, but I don't think (outside of maybe King Arthur which had local tales co-opted in to a nation-wide myth) that a single author has created a shared and consistent universe for his stories before.

Maybe try reading Saya no Uta before revealing your ignorance.

He sure was fond of poetic magazine shitposting and he even made friends like that. The only problem is that he would be a namefag.

Lovecraft's stuff was all about the horror of the unknown, shit beyond mortal comprehension, etc., driving the protagonists insane
Kind of hard to do any of that very well in a video game, and still have it be an actual game
That's why everyone just throws spoopy tentacle monsters in everything and call it "lovecraftian"

The thing is that most of his stories were supposed to be oneshots and the Lovecraft universe was created organically.

It is always laughable how a few pink haired faggots and bitches say they are going to 'take' lovecraft's universe for themselves and make it progressive and cool.

From memory, I believe he criticised the nazi eugenics program as "unscientific" or something to that extent. But he was an American speaking about foreign affairs, so who knows where he got his information about Germany from.

It was sad how Lovecraft lost his cat in his childhood, almost making him suicidal.
Lovecraft had a hard life.

Yeah, his rage at the world for taking his cat is expressed quite clearly in The Cats of Ulthar, which is also one of my favourite shorter stories from him.

My favourite is The Case of Charles Dexter Ward. It is sutile and the good guys win in a reasonable way.

Lovecraft even said himself that he heavily imitated both Dunsany and Poe. This is what happens when all you do is play video games. It rots your brain. Go outside and go to the library and read an actual book once in awhile. I'll make the mistake that you've already read most of Poe, so you can clearly see that influence. Now read "The Gods of Pegana" and "A Dream's Tale".

It was, even by the standards of his time. They didn't use any of the (then) modern methods to determine race, just methods like phrenology which were known to be bullshit before the Nazis even started using them.

Actually, since I completly skipped the OP - there are plenty of Western games that are "Lovecraftian". Off the top of my head you have Shadow of the Comet, Prisoner of Ice, Dark Corners of the Earth, Alone in the Dark, Discworld Noir, The Darkness Within, Amnesia, Nocturne, Eternal Darkness, Anchorhead, Necronomicon. All of these are either adaptations, influenced by or borrow elements from Lovecraftian stories or themes - much more than many of these stupid indie games that just slap the Cthulhu name on it and call it a day.

Sure thing, (((user)))

Never said anything like that at all. Do something besides post on here and Holla Forums everyday and maybe you'll be able to say something besides "everyone that disagrees with me is a Jewish shill" you fucking retard.

Worst deity, enjoy your fish fucking while I chill beyond the gate of the silver key.

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t. fag who hasn't ever even SEEN the silver key, let alone memorize his symbols

He exists outside the universe despite being in every moment of it. You really wanna argue about how cool you think Ol' Bubbles is?

keep telling that to yourself so you don't have to live with the regret of not making it past the veil

Probably because Japan and Slavic countries are very lovecraftian in the way they're ran compared to the wests orwellian mess

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Chaos gods are low tier.

Eh not really commenting about your god of choice but rather how your words perfectly sum up my antipathy for tzeentch

Here's an idea, read more than 1 of stories. Some of them there isn't a trace of racism. Other's it's one of the character that's racist and not the main protagonist or narration.

I guess we need another Spanish Inquisition.


Now jokes aside. What if some Lovecraft stories are racist? He was a man of his time and a product of his consequences. He even began less racist the more he travelled. Yet he couldn't help but feel adversion towards jews and maybe black people after living in New York.

Go back to freech, chaim.

>He even began less racist the more he travelled. Yet he couldn't help but feel adversion towards jews and maybe black people after living in New York.
Yeah, I was going to mention that but just decided to call the user on it's brainlet bullshit.

I just noticed I ate the "to be" of the whole sentence, but yeah. Lovecraft was a weak, insecure man who loved writting and believed himself to be an english lord thanks to his mother. He just wanted and needed love, but not sexual love. His exwife said he performed well in bed yet he hated to have sex, probably his mother's fault once again.

He travelled all over merika, had lots of friends but famous, lived through harder times than us. weak? Stop reading synopsis' on his life written by kikes.
His ex-wife who said that, was a crazy bitch who cut her daughter completely out of her life, wrote an autobiography and didn't mention her daughter as well. I'd probably not want to fuck some cold bitch either. His mom probably was a cunt because he seemed to be attracted to them.

*both famous and not famous
My point here is that his character has been written about, even the people who hated him, like one of his ex-gf's who was a nigger lover and he co-wrote with, didn't say he was weak or insecure

I gave the sources to read. Come up with your own opinion. Maybe that’s too much to ask from someone who can only spout memes.

I mean physically weak. He had a fragile body, that is true. I used the most quoted biography to inform myself.

Also the fact he was insecure, but that was thanks to his mother that made him pretty much crazy. She did the worst both in overprotection and psycological abuse.

he was sick alot as a kid, but he didn't look physically weak in his older pics.

She didn't touch him and was in constant mourning.
He wasn't

user, let's talk again when you stop making shit up from your vague recollections about what you read on some blog post

user… maybe I'm exagerating a bit, but he was physically weak, that is a fact. Maybe it was psycologically induced, but he was pale, thin and the only sport he did was walking.

His mother, after the death of his father, dressed him like a girl because she wanted a daughter, and even left his hair long and curly. When he grew up a little he demanded to have his hair cut and his mother cried a river. Since then she didn't spoke much with him and even called him ugly when talking to other people, even total strangers.

I'm using the L. Sprangue de Camp's biography of Lovecraft, which is the most quoted and had interviews to some friends of Lovecraft and some of his letters.

2/3rds is lovecraft is setup.