DDO and the Mortal Voyage (perma death mmo)

Dungeons and Dragons Online (ddo) with a permanent death twist.

WELCOME TO DIE

Dungeons & Dragons Online is a team based dungeon crawler where a group of 5 adventurers complete handcrafted story based quest instances with perma death rules for our guild. Party composition is really important rogues must disarm deadly traps, and healers must watch their fragile companions, tanks hold choke points as body walls. Everyone is cautious as the threat of death is ever looming.

If you like heart racing moments of action, the dread of moving towards inevitable doom, and the painful loss of trusted companions come join!

ddo.com/en/game/download

There are over 14 traditional dungeons and dragons classes from artificer to monk, a large enhancement tree for every class adding additional flavor to each class along.

The game is free to play & allows you to earn premium subscriber content while playing. (A large part of this is accomplished from dieing and re rolling characters)

Guild Rules
pastebin.com/uK3EZM91

Our server / realm is Khyber
/w Cauda for a guild invite

It's a fresh guild so everyone is level 1

Current classes in need: Rogues, Clerics, Favored Souls, Fighters, Barbarians, Bards, Druids, Sorcerers.

Ask your questions in the thread and I'll do my best to answer.

Other urls found in this thread:

ddowiki.com/page/Wizard_Eldritch_Knight_enhancements
ddowiki.com/page/Spellsinger_enhancements
pastebin.com/uK3EZM91
ddowiki.com/page/Artificer_spells
ddowiki.com/page/Monk
twitter.com/SFWRedditImages

Did they ever add any in-game way for you to tell if instance loot reset? Because having to manually write down when you could run through each instance again was a major pain.
Also, did they ever give Warforged back their poison immunity?

wish us luck boys

The guild only runs individual instances once or twice per character.

Groups of 1 - 3 characters
may do dungeons on Hard or Elite (and are allowed one extra rest shrine). may repeat the quest again on elite.

Groups of 4 - 5
Must do dungeons on Elite (are limited to every other rest shrine.)

Warforged are immune to sleep, energy drain, nausea, sickness, exhaustion, and paralysis effects. (except for holds) You are immune to natural poisons and diseases but are vulnerable to those that specifically effect wood or metal.

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I will only accept perma death mmo if you can gank people freely.

it's instance based, so it doesn't really have PvP

With a good party comp, and careful / intelligent playing its entirely possible to play the game this way. It makes it more intense and meaningful.

Bet it's based on 4e, lol.

It's based on 3.5 rule set.

Turbine no longer owns the game.

We don't use the auction house in the guild, the only trading happens inside the dungeon with your group mates. Exception: ammo, potions and scrolls you can trade outside of dungeons with guild mates.

It's not a perma-death MMO. The perma-death thing is this particular guild's autism.

I'm playing a cleric

NO
NONE OF YOU ARE PLAYING THE NEW RAVENLOFT EXPANSION
STOP SUPPORTING IT
IT'S 5E CANCER
If you could be a dear and record voicefiles of the Dragons and Kobolds in DDO as well as content such as LLoth's Voice files in eberron and the noises liches make, I'd be thankful.

Didn't that Japanese Wizardry MMO have permadeath as well; I remember journo's saying that was why it died. Personally I think it died because nobody knew it existed until it didn't anymore. Why some companies think not marketing their games at all will somehow work out fine baffles me.

Oh shit, DDO? I'm not able to do this right now because I have a lot of stuff happening for the next few days but I'll be sure to sign up by next week at the latest.

I've been playing ddo forever so if you need help building any class post in the thread.

gibe cleric

ok, im installing it, my ign is Spengler1488

Is there something you want to tell us big guy?

Wisdom > Charisma > Con > Dex = Str > Int

important skills are concentrate, balance, spot and healing in that order.

Good feats are Toughness, Mental Toughness, Empowered healing.

Elves get a good religion for perma death called The Undying Court.

send a /tell to Cauda when you get in game and I'll send you an guild invite.

Is ranger with crossbow viable?

yep artificers specialize in repeating crossbows.

rangers can specialize in all sorts of bows.

rogues have a mechanic tree that also specializes in great crossbows.

Is eldritch knight viable in this game, or does it work out as shitty as the tabletop variant? Prefer wizard but if its only good in sorc I can roll with that.

Both wizard and sorc are viable and good.
you can be an eldrich knight as a wizard and multi class however you like. ddowiki.com/page/Wizard_Eldritch_Knight_enhancements

Wizard leans more towards crowd control and buffs unless they're pale masters. Sorc can focus on a specific elemental path.

Guess i'll start re downloading then

Sorcerers also have access to eldritch knight that might be easier to build around a paladin.

Is PK still great in pvp? I used to mop fools up. Pic is almost 10yrs old. I think last time I played I ran Deleras the day after Gary died. RIP

So i'm already in the game, but when i try to /w it says unknown command, what do?

You'll wanna wait for a party to get on- should be one up tomorrow

Yeah sorry friend I already went to bed.
Hot hours are usually 4pm - 10pm CST on weekdays.

I've been playing solo for a while, got to lvl 3, haven't died or traded, am I allowed into the guild or should I start a fresh character? I think I followed all the guild rules, but as you guys wish

This was the mmo for me.Played it almost everyday for an hour or 2 for around 4 years,the memories,the feels.
I triple dog dare you fuckers to try your permadeath shtick with The Pit

how are bards in ddo

Yeah no i need to avoid this thread.Any more feels and i'll end up an hero myself

send a /tell to Wogman

I've seen characters under this rule set get up to 11- 16. That being said the Pit has also claimed thousands of lives.

Perma death and DDO are completely different beast. Something that might be useless in ddo (like the diehard feat) is useful in permadeath. I like spellsinger in permadeath ddowiki.com/page/Spellsinger_enhancements

aww ya. i played this a bit back in the day but had no one to play with. hate to ask this so pls no bully but does it work on Windows 10 ?

yes it does

can you play as a kobold? does it work on linux or wine? is it fun ?

Awesome. I can't really play today but i can get it installed. i am free almost all day Saturday and would love to play an MMO again just have No Friends :^(

so besides Cauda and wogman who else can i contact in the guild to get in when i am ready. also i think there was built in voice chat?
i could play a cleric if need be i've played enough table top D&D to know how to build it and played this MMO a little.

They have tall kobolds, it's free with sub (14.99) or 1295 ddo points. (7.99) and a little grinding.
I don't know about linux support. It's very intense gotta take things slowly or you're a dead man.

Kiotrin and Daratrine can also invite. You can also go to the who list and search for Traps Eternal.

The guild just kicked off yesterday. My advice would be to go ahead and make multiple characters and multiple classes. The most valuable are trap rogues and healers cleric or not. We usually skip the tutorial boat crash and go straight to the sunny island. But we have 2 snowy side tutorial characters just in case. (it's a little confusing)

I forgot to mention there is built in voice.

the guild name is Traps Eternal? kek
ok i'll look into it. i might run the tutorial once just as a refresher

Doing the tutorial segregates you into a quest chain that's about 6 quests long that you'll have to solo.

Skipping it still lets you do the 6 quests it just drops you in the main world with the rest of the players.

I don't really consider the first island anything more than a chore to run so, it doesn't matter if you die soloing the (snowy) island.

Once you get to the harbor or if you're questing the sunny island quests with the guild its dead is dead.

I'm going for a tank/healer cleric, will be able to play again in about 3 tours, is there any way to check how much favor you have?

in game you press P to open your patron menu total favor is at the bottom. send a to /t Wogman

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Let me tell you about the warforged probably the most bad ass race in DDO.

Divine heals are for babies, so is disease and poison that isn't magical. We get healed via paladin lay on hands, or repair spells from wizards or artificers. Artificers and Wizards can be trap rogues meaning the smallest meta group you can have is the warforged triad. (Eldritch knight or Paladin, Wizard, and Artificer.)

invite me fag, im Tarcicio The Racist

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Really? They shanked my 10yo meta rogue wand monkey that could solo most shit because UMD 4tw?

I don't remember playing a single dungeon he's narrated.

UMD is still really good for soloing, but there are limits to what you can and can't buy on the rules.

pastebin.com/uK3EZM91

I'm kinda interested because I think that the permadeath will keep things interesting.
Maybe I'll check it out today.

Cauda's offline. What do I do?

Tempest spine and Velah, those were the days. Titan was pretty good as well, at least the first part of it.

dropped

Oh shit that giant… almost forgot about that. Fun times watching my friends get flung off the ledge. What was the one with the room full of wraiths? I can remember a few runs on my wand monkey rogue where I ended up hiding in the corner because everyone else died, and kept trying to come back so there like 20+ wraiths on patrol…

It's not that quite cut and dry, but yeah you have to have a rogue and somebody will need to heal.
Each healer brings things to the table and you can always bring more than 1 healer with you.

But druid healing has good summons and damage.
Favored Soul healing is the strongest and most powerful.
Cleric healing is great for having access to every buff and turn the undead.

Delera's? Narrated by Gary Gygax as well.

Can't remember who, but Southern had some famous narrator as well. Also, farming end boss at southern.

Is crafting homunculi still a thing for them later? Do they still get access to all their crafting feats?

No Delera's was one that could be solo'd. The one I'm thinking of was tougher than VoN, or maybe it was a part of VoN. It's been so long. I also remember another quest or part of a quest with some Beholders that you fight in a dream or something. I remember some wind traps blowing people down to their doom.

I haven't played too much artificer to know about homunculi. They get a pet iron defender they customize and levels up with them.

This is their spell list ddowiki.com/page/Artificer_spells

They have two different enhancement paths battle technician and arcanotechnician.

They do get bonuses for the crafting system which lets you make gear with whatever enchantments or enhancements you like which is pretty dope.

Dream quest was for VoN, also had a quest in an arena, some drow caves that was full of beholders at one point and a foundry.

Ok then the wraith room was for a quest a little harder than VoN. I so don't want to play, but I also remember how well Turbine did with the shit-tier 3.5e rules in a real-time game engine. It's really unsurpassed in everything but the graphics part of the engine. The player's remorse dilemma is real.

Can I do a Wm/Fighter/Wizard or a Sorc/Pal/RDD like NWN?

yes

Hmm.. I might just wait for NWN:EE the spell list here looks kinda gutted.

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bump

ok finally got everything downloaded too FOREVER to patch. seem to run well i can't play right now but will be on around 10am (Central time) will anyone else be on to invite me into the guild?

Is there anything we need in particular class wise at this point? I'm updating the client now.

I've either memory holed an entire email address from my childhood or something happened to my old account. Either way I'm debating starting to play again and creating a healer– are they needed? I've never played as a Favored Soul, are they stronk?

I've got a cleric but I suck so we could use another probably

I haven't joined the guild yet but I'm also going to start trying to play a cleric.

Yep Wogman will be, you can do the tutorial island which is considered snowy side completely and die as much as it takes. Once you finish the final dungeon called Misery's Peak and head to the harbor it'll be perma death from there on.

researching builds isn't going to help much because of this

Favored Soul is the god of fuckin Holy magic, though there's some odd shit about them that'll take some getting used to. Healers / tanks are always good, too.

Don't bother looking up shit about builds or anything, mostly anything that works in the base game is terrible for permadeath.

I'm curious about this game. I've never played it before.
What are the benefits of having premium? If your character dies and you have to re-roll is there a need to do certain mundane things over and over like 'tutorial' starting quests for each new character you make?

Premium is 14.99 it nets you a shared bank. A couple thousand DDO points, unlocks every race and every class. As well as unlocks every themed adventure dungeon pack these start around level 5 and 6. You can also use ddo points to buy non subscribers guest passes to these packs as well.

When you die there is an island of 6 quest you have to repeat. There are still lots of chest in all these quest so your loot will be unique. If you have to solo the 6 quest because no one is online death is permitted. If you're with the guild or past the first 6 quest then you must reroll. Death can happen instantaneously due to standing in the wrong place or trying to follow someone through a hazard I try to warn new people of that because the early levels can be harsh, the later levels hubris is what kills you.

Last night we pulled together a group of 5 for a couple level 4 harbor quests.
1 Seasons Druid
1 Theif Acrobat
1 Pale Master Wizard
1 Paladin
1 Bard

Everything was going pretty smoothly (and by that i mean everyone was running around like panic'd bees) the infamous "Butchers Path" had that name for a reason and last night a kobold Shaman instantly fried one of our guild paladins with a lightning bolt.

One of the earliest instant killers is electricity (lightning bolts in particular which are reflex saves) , now you know and knowing is half the battle.

Damn, I've not played DDO since the free trial back during release. Had a lot of fun with it too and really appreciated its quest structure and the prep-work it does for lower levels and fresh players.
I'm busy today, but gonna get the client installed and probably play tomorrow. Are rogues still in demand?

Could you give me any pointers for a Permadeath Rogue-mechanic playstyle? I've been reading some guides, but since somebody ITT mentioned that permadeath is a wholly different beast, I could use some advice on what would be useful.

Can someone sum up the differences between DDO and PnP 3.5?

anyone from the guild on right now? i tried messaging everyone mention in this thread and they are not on its just /tell right?

Send a /t to Wogman if you need a guild invite.

Rogues are extremely important, no quest over level 4 gets done without a rogue to disarm traps that would otherwise instantly kill someone.

For a permadeath Rogue you need every bit of Search, Disable Device and Reflex you can muster up as quickly as possible. You'll need a little wisdom as well to improve your Spot rolls. (There's no spoilers in the guild so if your character doesn't spot a trap nobody can warn you about it.)

I think for rogues we'll likely have to make some gear exceptions and purchase general use trap monkey gear that anyone can use and put back. Nobody else is allowed to buy gear in that fashion, and it wouldn't be all rogue gear just things that make disarming total bullshit traps possible.

The guild now has access to guild invite's via the in game mail system if you drop your characters name in the thread I can send you one at any point I'm online.

Not many to be honest (you could even turn on the dice animation to see real-time rolls). The biggest thing that people had/have a problem with is the Eberron setting. Magic is just fucked. Eg, abundance of low level spells and magical items, practically no high level magic.

word i got in. i'm sobiter or whatever. said it will be a few hours before more show up so i'll just log on a little later

How does the setting factor in? I figured that there might be more higher end magic items with how Artificers work in 3.5. Should I just start reading the campaign setting book I grabbed from the WoTC trove on /tg/?

no, don't do that. A ton of shit has changed with how the talent system and feats work in the MMO compared to normal 3.5.
Honestly they're so loosely based on each other it's only really going to help you if you have a grasp of what skills are traps and so on

I think it takes place after the Spellplague (after Mystra was assassinated). So yeah magic is pretty wonky. My biggest complaint after I played DDO for ~5 years was there were just too many magic items. My fighter had +4-5 weapons for every situation; my caster had basically a pack full of magic items on rotation; etc. I cancelled my subscription back when level 10 was the max and I've heard they increased it to 14 shortly afterward. No clue what the max level is now.

Look at my screenshot of the end of VoN that I posted above and just marvel at my ridiculous itembar hotkeys.

while i'm waiting what do i need to do to make the best rouge to help us? i'll take whatever build you give me.

Damn, I just stopped playing this game a months before Ravenloft dropped. If I wasn't working full time again I'd totally hop on this 'tismfest.

Last I'd heard there was some big honeypot exploit for Saga EXP that got a pretty big wave of people and hit a lot of the larger guilds even on Cannith where I played.

anyone playing right now? im about to log in

Wogman is online.

It's always best to have multiple characters so that when one dies at least you have something else to play! Every race has something to offer a rogue, 16 int and 12 wisdom is a minimum, most important skills are search, spot, disable device, open lock, balance, tumble, bluff. Anything else is flavor. The best feats are toughness, lightning reflexes, or nimble hands. The best enhancement tree for trap disarming lets you learn great heavy crossbows for free.

Nice one. I'll get a character together and blast through the starter area for tomorrow.

current list of living souls who can invite or send guild invites in the mail.

Someone explain these rerunning rules to me. How are you supposed to level if you can’t grind quests, which you’re going to have to do after like level 10?

This was always the worst Turbine game bar AC2.

The rules do allow you to do a dungeon on hard once. Then do it on elite, unless the group is over leveled for it then it must be done on elite. With all the quests, adventure packs and exploration zones now a days its do able. Still most have trouble making it past 4 - 6. We'll talk about it if and when you make it to 10.

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I actually tried it out a few years ago but dropped before even dying once, dont remember how the combat played but it had this atmosphere where i would've really liked to continue on playing but the creeping thought of perma-death and if i remember right it was something you could "skip" by cash-shop items made me drop it before i got too invested into it.

Does this use the 3.5 Monks or the PF monks? This is really fucking important to me. That, and if bards can actually use their spells in inventive ways, like ghost lights.

It still winds up being free for most groups. They don't start until level 5 and subscribers can buy guest passes for free players to get everything as well. They're sort of bonus themed quest chains with unique end rewards, we'll rarely be in them.

ddowiki.com/page/Monk

Fuck you too, buddy.

Descending order of Turbine's games from GOAT to (You):
Asheron's Call
Dungeons & Dragons Online
Asheron's Call 2
Lord of the Rings Online

Looks like you get it multiple times, starting at lvl 1 and stacking damage

The boy has it upsie-downsies because he's an uppity downy.

All of Temple of Elemental Evil.

Fuck off, Wesley, I just want my bitchin handwraps and shroom hat.

Ah, much better. No idea how the fuck I missed it. But still, fuck me, not even the Drunken Monk archtype to use for funsies in this.

i will be on in about 45 min for the next 3 hours or so if anyone wants to play. I have a lvl 1 rouge and lvl 1 cleric.

I feel your pain. The enhancement trees fill some of that void though. Finally settled on a swashbuckling bard/fighter, eldritch knight sorc/paladin really doesn't have a lot going on until 12th level sadly.

I work from 6am - 11am Sundays cst so I'm out for tonite drop your character name in the thread and I'll send out consumable guild invites via the in game mail.

If you like carebear games that list might be reverse. I happen to prefer PvP in PvE games, and nothing really has come close to matching the style and substance of AC1 Darktide (I was in Blood, if I killed you and took all your shit: stay salty, newb).

2 of us on right now about to team up and do shit

I tried to invite you fag but it says that the username doesnt exist or some shit like that.

thanks FOR NONE ONE ELSE SHOWING UP! we had fun though we'll be on tomorrow around 11amish cst

As a pale master, What is the best kind of weapon I should be using? So far I've been using Quarterstaves but I really don't benefit from most of the bonuses they give me.

I've played both DDO and LOTROand I prefer LOTRO by a country ass mile. Although that's not to say that DDO is bad, I play and enjoy both tbh.

i guess no one is going to long on for a bit i'm going to get something to eat be back in an hour. ~sobiter

i'm in fags, got a lvl 4 bard and a lvl 3 sorc, who's up for some dungeons?

Who's online to get me into the guild right now?

Connography

"Connography is unavailable" when I tried to message them

fug it was Conoggraphy

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who also just died, what's wrong with you fags
i feel like it was my fault ;-;

oh shit, free backpack for the favor, i'm starting to like this

I don't know what I was expecting.

I TOLD YOU NIGGER, THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU DONT LISTEN REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

You knew this was going to happen but you didn't force me to stop so it was your fault.

Last time I play something that cant heal.

guess who got to lvl 6
hint me

I'm a Wizard right now and am interested in the Pale Master tree and the idea of being undead. i'm wondering how exactly I'm supposed to get healed as opposed to being non-undead. does it mean I don't get any health from shrines or potions?

I thought this game was dead. Are any servers still active at the low/mid level dungeons other than people that joined this permadeath guild?

It's still active but I barely ever see anyone else roaming the world besides me or my party

I'll wait for Darkscape

We need more people or new rules.

Didn't know hermoine is into D&D, would fuck/10

forogt to add

This tumblr art style needs to fucking die already.