Was he /ourguy/?

Was he /ourguy/?

wasn't he pretty much just a succdem?

not too bad for a cappie politician

Yep, he was far from perfect but still pretty good considering the time he lived.

By american standards he was a super leftie. He fucked over the right people and understood systematic problems to a certain degree.

What was the point of the Rough Riders again?

Barack Obama is pretty good considering the time he lived.

Barack Obama is more right wing than TR who was a Republican cowboy.

But you have to consider the time he lived in fam.

Taft busted up nearly twice as many trusts in about half the time but noone ever seems to give him any credit.

Warmongering and imperialist buffoon. Broke up the banks, but his feverent pro-war rhetoric is fucking shit. Mark Twain was right. Read Howard Zinn.

How do you operate a gun with mittens?

you don't.
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Of course he was. Just look at what a great guy:


Debs, who ran against him in 1912, led the strike that Roosevelt was talking about btw. He's one of the biggest labour leaders in US history.

Another one of those was Bill Haywood. Americans here probably know about this, but in 1905 someone killed the former governor of Idaho, was arrested, and then attempted to frame up Bill Haywood and two other unionists by saying he was under their orders. They were living in another state and could not be legally extradited for some reason, but bourgeois Idaho shitdicks, who also had "their men" who also shot well and feared little, managed to kidnap them and bring them to Idaho illegally.

The case became a huge labour issue, Debs and other radical unionists raised something like a quarter of a million for the legal defense, which adjusted for inflation is probably like a cuntzillion dollars in today's money, and also started agitating for their freedom. The case was global news and pure undiluted class war, even Maxim Gorky, who was visiting the US, was chased out of the country for supporting them and exchanging messages with Haywood.

Eventually they won the case, which was a huge victory for labour, and the only thing Roosevelt, who had called them "undesirable citizens", had to say about the case is that it was a shame that Haywood and others were kidnapped and taken alive to stand trial, instead of murdered by the kidnappers without having the chance to do so.

So yeah, he was definitely not /our guy/. I'd vote for him over any US president since except maybe FDR, but he was a piece of shit like all the rest of them. And I still think that the only reason we consider him a left-leaning politician at all is because he was so terrified of labour agitation and radical unionism that he had to make concessions that, devoid of context, may lead us to believe that he was acting out of his own personal political philosophy, instead of just adhering to a time-tested class war strategy of co-opting support for radical groups.

Akkkhhsssuuaalllyy that's a PPSh-41 he's holding, the first of which were only produced in november '41, more than a year after the end of the winter war *sniffs* so joke's on you user

mien gott

no thanks

Daily reminder that liberals and identitarians are not leftists, they will praise and bow down to any corporation the moment it puts a raiwnbow flag on it social media profile.

Obama could have been FDR:Black edition around 2008

Um acshooally it's a PPD-40. Which were used in the Winter War.

But user, you have to consider the time he was living in!

Depends. Are you a social democrat?

Depends on who you ask but the rough riders were mainly propaganda for Americans

Nazbol ahead of his time.

Those are some spicy claims, do you have a source for them?

No, he just was scared of what would happen if /ourguys/ decided to riot.

Fascist fucker.