Why do so many LGBT people (who wear it on their sleeves) get drawn into Marxism-Leninism?

the stalin society presented a good argument in the article and had citations but people only care about the fact it had the name stalin in it

I don't see people jumping through hoops to defend or deny Marx's racism though. Marx never held power to do anything about it either.

It's not that tankies don't do good research and manage to debunk Western propaganda, it's that they choose names that are hilarious to onlookers and will be disregarded on that basis by normies.

if you ignore the entire communist archives, sure

im not defending stalin's homophobia just saying we need to look at it through historical lens like we do about marx's rascism

🍀🍀🍀The Communist Archives©🍀🍀🍀

yeah i think who ever created the name probably did it to upset normies tbh

that it isn't a just criticism of stalin do to the time he was living in and the numbers of gays thrown in were over exaggerated

What homophobia?

Why do we have the very same thread every two weeks? Do I need to pre-emptively spam Holla Forums or wherever you've crawled out from?

Trannies are gulag tier

im not from Holla Forums Торвищ i swear i just think that we need to criticize stalin for his mistakes

twitter.com/Radikvalrossen/status/837797706122866688

nazbol is gulag teir

How many times had you begun criticizing Stalin with "Of course, Thatcher, Reagan, and Obama were much worse than Stalin, but there are some minor nuances we need to keep in mind…" ?

Because if the answer is "not a single time", I might think that you are either presupposing that Capitalism is no different from Socialism or that USSR wasn't Socialist.

Lenin wasn't pro-LGBT, while such movements did exist at the time it is still somewhat ahistorical to claim something like that. It was a broad repeal of tsarist laws. Chicherin was gay and no one seemed to have much of a problem with him however.

Also conflating ML theory with the actions of ML states is a bit disingenuous.
sage for shit thread overall.

i fucking hate the USA Britain and most of the west. I support Assad and like Gaddafi. Imperialism is the reason for the first world's wealth. The USSR was the greatest country of all time. Stalin>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than any US prez or British prime minister. Okay i'm a fucking ML mate i don't know what you want me to do to prove it im just saying stalin wasn't perfect and did mistakes just like any other great leader.

also one of stalin's said mistakes was not purging the party enough and not getting rid of kurshkev and other revisionist and allowing the soviet china split after his death

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Russia

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_history_in_Russia

tankie twitter is just so, so fucking awful, nuke it

Gulag yourself

Obama was not much worse than Stalin

nazbol is wall tier

These people have broken brains. They target and doxx people, often getting their shit wrong, who are actually doing something, like PPG. They think they're revolutionaries, but they never leave their basements and they worship a pizzagate truther cop named Phil and a schizophrenic heiress named Molly.

in some ways Greaves is better than the teenage tankie twitter brigade

Because it's edgy and contrarian.
It's nothing to do with the actual philosophical merits of ML, it's just because they know they're gonna be provocative and "out-there".
To many people on the left wing, if not most, ideology has simply become an assesory, a fashion-statement.

The only retards worse than Tankie Twitter are the anti-imperialism only obsessed Maoist Third Worldists. They usually run in the same circles.

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Every time

that irks me too

in some ways he's worse

They really shit everything they touch, dont they?

today's """leftists""" in a nutshell

same here

Kek this is kinda trippy since I stumbled on this exact account yesterday, and couldn't help but scroll it for a while. Tankies make me wanna bang my head into a table, but for some reason I still looked at that shit

Kurdbro is right. It's very evident when you see them reply to someone saying "Stalin was dictator" with "actually gulags are good. killing people is good. huehuehue i want to kill you after revolution just for annoying me on twitter"

honestly it's pretty uncomfortable seeing them advocate gulags 24/7

This
Like I'll say it semi-ironically in a thread about awful rich people…but if you seriously enjoy the thought of a police state and heavy repression, then there's something wrong with your head.

yeah. it's hard to see nominally leftist people salivate at the thought of doorkickers and prisons.

Well then.
Yes, modern LGBT liberal idpol didn't exist back then, but a broad repeal of tsarist laws which had served no purpose aside from policing social mores in line with the stability and internal logic of the tsarist system is rather inherently "pro-LGBT," no?
There was none of this "force christians to bake gay wedding pizzas" nonsense because that's not actually emancipatory politics.

Honestly the first demon you have to slay here is the fact that you insist on calling Stalinism """Marxism-Leninism."""

What about the fact that Stalin invented Marxism-Leninism?

Because being LGBT isn't edgy enough in and of itself so they have to take it to the next level. Gotta piss off their parents somehow. Seriously though that's what all the obnoxious LGBT ML crowd acts. Regular LGBT that don't wear it on their sleeve tend to head toward a broader variety of tendencies.

You can't judge Stalin and Lenin for hating gays when everyone else during that time period did the same fucking thing.
Judge them for things that matter like gulags (though that's only a Stalin thing but you know what I mean).

Lenin set up the gulags

because it's very edgy to call yourself a marxist-leninist or even better a marxist-leninist-maoist for anti-eurocentrism points. These people are democrats-gone-bad. that's essentially their whole schtick. They probably just got really tired of the who conservative appeals to 'freedom' so they decided fuck it I'll keep the exact same platform but dialed up to 11 and with gulags.

that word shouldn't be there. Ignore that, I'm trash at typing

explains why the get along so well with Trots, since Trots are essentially Democrats gone smug

There was no such thing as the modern rights movements back in 1917, silly billy, but people had enough brain cells to understand that sexuality is fundamentally inseparable from their material, economic, social conditions and had enough dignity to respect it by not making a circus out of it.
And yes, Lenin was amongst the first to decriminalize homosexuality, but the reasoning behind it had little to do with all the alienated libtardation of today.
Also,
not this shit again, just get out, dumb frog poster.

lol this

Social democracy at the barrel of a gun tbh

They don't, they get drawn into reactionary liberalism

Every day I agree with this more

Do they?